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Samsung Galaxy Mega; Is It Too Big A Smartphone?  
User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5372 times:

Hi,

Although I have been an Iphone user for quite some time, I don't like the rumors I am hearing about the Iphone 5s / 6.
I mean it seems that Apple sticks to the smaller screen (maybe making it a little tad bigger on the 6?), and the other day I bumped into somebody with the Galaxy Mega; which was quite a sight!

The fact that I only make a few phone calls a week and use my smartphone for 95% of the time for E-mails, A-net and news etc; does make me wonder: would the "Mega" be an option?

I have been doing some investigating on-line with regards to its speed, screen quality etc.
The specs seem quite okay but it's not really high end. I would be glad to not have to use that stylus type of thing, anyways.....I believe it's not even compatible for that.
But mainly it's the physical size of the screen that makes this phone stand out, isn't it?

I would like to know from other aviation enthusiasts..........most of us are travelers, as am I.......would you go for it....or would you keep your phone and tablet strictly separate?

(And how would the change to Android be, as a novice.......being used to iOS only??)

Thanks!


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8841 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

I already think the iPhone 5 is borderline on being too big for a cell phone.

And by the way...




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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6656 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

My phone is 7 inches, the first Galaxy Tab :d I use an earpiece for actual phone calls, though.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26982 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

I have the iPhone 5 and using the new IOS7 and I love the upgrade. In fact some things are similar to an Android. Personally all my things are Apple so I like to keep everything the same and SYNC etc...

Samsung make some good phones so you would not be dissapointed Im sure. Some of my friends have them and love them. I personally wouldnt change but I dont think it would be hard to move between the two. Ive used both and its easy enough. For me my iPhone does everything I need it to and I rarely use it for phone calls. Id say 90% is for data. If you need/want a bigger screen then I guess Samsung is the way to go or an iPad mini  


User currently offlineAyostoLeon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
And by the way...

Doesn't the 6.3 offer 233ppi?

OK, that is less that the S4 but it would only matter depending on your intended use of the device. If you only intend to use it to make phone calls (does any one actually do that?) or read SMS messages and email that will be more than enough. If you want to download and watch high quality videos (or record them) then another choice may be optimal.

It all comes down to what you want from a device and asking which suits your needs. Higher specs are not all that important if you never use the applications that require them.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

The biggest difference in day-to-day usage will be that you cannot comfortably use the big phones with just one hand. You need to have the other hand free as well to use them properly.

An iPhone can be used with just one hand pretty much exclusively (typing is faster with both hands, though), and that is one of the reasons why I don't miss a bigger device. Much of the time I don't have both hands free just to operate the phone, and with the iPhone I don't need to.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
An iPhone can be used with just one hand pretty much exclusively

So can an S4.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
So can an S4.

Not really.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26982 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
So can an S4.
Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Not really.

Its not a right or wrong . It depends on the user and hand size etc... One size fits all does not work in this instance. I find my limit would be a iPhone 5 to comfortably use one hand without mistakes in typing but a mate of mine can do it with one hand on a S4 as he has larger hands/longer fingers etc... So its down to the individual.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5101 times:

I have pretty large hands. And the regular iPhone still is about the maximum size of screen where the entire screen is comfortably reachable with my thumb when I'm using it single-handedly.

With the iPhone 5 the upper left corner is already a stretch. With the Galaxy S4 I'd have to use the other hand has well or balance it precariously while trying to reach the far corner.


User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

Quoting thesultanofwing (Thread starter):
I would like to know from other aviation enthusiasts..........most of us are travelers, as am I.......would you go for it....or would you keep your phone and tablet strictly separate?

I would say cost is a big factor. A lot of these phones can set you back a bit, so I'd look beyond the basic specs to see what you would actually use it for. IMHO, the Samsung lineup is pretty great for browsing and higher end video. My phone has some kind of AMOLED screen, and I swear, the biggest deal there is how black the blacks are. This is crazy, but I actually watched the A350 First Flight on my phone when I had an opportunity to use a laptop instead. The video really was that much better.

My iPhone (a 4S) is very good for work and email, but for my personal use, I do still prefer the Samsung, for what it's worth. They both do very well with actual phone calls.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
So can an S4.

Not really.

Yes, they most certainly can. I have an S4 (In fact it's kind of a joke for one of the lady friends that one phone is a 4S & the other an S4), and I have no trouble, at all, using it one-handed.

As complex a product as it is, I would agree that there is no way that everything on it is 'perfect' by any means, but usability as a hand held is not one of my gripes with it. In fact, I got a neat case for it off of Amazon that actually doubles as a wallet, so with the space my old wallet no longer takes up, I actually have more space (um, pocket pitch?) to use.

Just to be clear, I certainly have nothing against the iPhone 4S (no experience with the 5 yet,   ), and I think I speak for literally every member of mgmt where I work that we all glad the days of Blackberry's thumb hating keys are long over!


Just Saying.



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User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):

And by the way...only 190PPI
Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 4):

Doesn't the 6.3 offer 233ppi?

The following article mentions the PPI being 223, as do a few others I came across.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/18/...-samsung-galaxy-mega-6-3-gt-i9205/

Still not earth-shattering Dreadnought, I agree; but can't larger screens get away with a little less?
The idea being that you wouldn't hold a larger phone as close to your face!

What I read in most reviews is that the screen is good, maybe not top of the line but definitely good enough for most users.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Samsung make some good phones so you would not be dissapointed Im sure.

Great to hear! No Android-adaption issues then?

Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 4):
read SMS messages and email that will be more than enough.

Yes, plus surf the net and perhaps play the odd game.
Certainly no movies etc!

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):

The biggest difference in day-to-day usage will be that you cannot comfortably use the big phones with just one hand.

That is an interesting point......and was consequently debated by others with regards to the smaller S4.
You got me thinking Klaus, and I think I've come to realize I do most things with 2 hands actually. (Joke away!)
Checking my mails in a bus, train or plane.....surfing the net in my bedroom or hotel room...I don't hink I would have an issue with that......and the odd moment that it's "unhandy", checking something while carrying a bag for instance; well I guess I'd take that as part of the deal.

No actual Galaxy MEGA owners out there?

1 final question, games like FIFA 14 will come out on this platform, correct?

Cheers!



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3376 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Its not a right or wrong . It depends on the user and hand size etc... One size fits all does not work in this instance. I find my limit would be a iPhone 5 to comfortably use one hand without mistakes in typing but a mate of mine can do it with one hand on a S4 as he has larger hands/longer fingers etc... So its down to the individual.

Argeed, I have the S3 which is only marginally smaller than the S4 and can use it with one had for most things. When texting I would use two hands but I would with a BB or an Iphone also. That is more of a preference thing.

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 10):
Just to be clear, I certainly have nothing against the iPhone 4S (no experience with the 5 yet,   ), and I think I speak for literally every member of mgmt where I work that we all glad the days of Blackberry's thumb hating keys are long over!

IIRC the BB Q10 has gotten some pretty good reviews.



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):

I have pretty large hands. And the regular iPhone still is about the maximum size of screen where the entire screen is comfortably reachable with my thumb when I'm using it single-handedly.

You said the same thing when the display size on the iPhone was 3,5".  


User currently offlineTLG From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4967 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
With the iPhone 5 the upper left corner is already a stretch. With the Galaxy S4 I'd have to use the other hand has well or balance it precariously while trying to reach the far corner.

Klaus, you probably have more technical knowledge than anybody else on this site, but do you actually use an Android? It sure doesn't seem like you have any experience with one.

I happen to carry two phones: an iPhone 5 and a Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is every bit as easy to operate one-handed, even though it has a 4.7" screen. This is mostly due to the iOS UI. With the way it's designed you have to be able to reach the whole screen. Prompts are towards the top, and icons start in the top left corner, the absolute worst place for one-handed use! The stock Android keyboard with the sliding feature is also much more accurate than iOS's keyboard at correction.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4919 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13):
You said the same thing when the display size on the iPhone was 3,5".

Mine still is, and you can check: My remarks regarding the screen size have never changed, just like the size of my hands (at least not recently).

Quoting TLG (Reply 14):
Klaus, you probably have more technical knowledge than anybody else on this site, but do you actually use an Android? It sure doesn't seem like you have any experience with one.

I've used the big ones occasionally.

Quoting TLG (Reply 14):
I happen to carry two phones: an iPhone 5 and a Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is every bit as easy to operate one-handed, even though it has a 4.7" screen. This is mostly due to the iOS UI. With the way it's designed you have to be able to reach the whole screen. Prompts are towards the top, and icons start in the top left corner, the absolute worst place for one-handed use!

Fullscreen browser usage is one of my primary kinds of interaction. And links just happen to be all over the pages – including at the top. There are relatively few uses where it's really never necessary to reach the top of the screen.

And never actually needing the other hand is just very convenient, regardless whether it's a coffee cup, a briefcase or a door handle that's occupying the other one.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
I've used the big ones occasionally.

Which means no.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Which means no.

Wrong. I haven't used them for a longer time, but I have used them occasionally. And the kind of easy, one-handed fullscreen use I get out of my iPhone is simply physically impossible with these big devices, which wouldn't change in any way after months of using them either. At least my fingers won't stretch because of repeated struggle.


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2774 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
iPhone 5 and using the new IOS7

Where did you get the iOS7?

If it can be ¨known¨   

MIAspotter



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 18):
Where did you get the iOS7?

Apple has provided external developers with a preview version so they can start adapting their apps to it. That is the main reason why they presented it at the developer conference long before its main release in autumn (likely with the next iPhone model).


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2774 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 19):

I see...

I´m holding on to see what will apple come up with the next iPhone... hopefully something worth the upgrade, otherwise I´ll stick to my trusty 4S.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4659 times:

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 20):
I´m holding on to see what will apple come up with the next iPhone... hopefully something worth the upgrade, otherwise I´ll stick to my trusty 4S.

I'll likely keep my 4S as well – iOS 7 will already give me a whole new device, basically. And the hardware already meets my needs pretty well.


User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

I think the idea of having a phone with a 4 inch screen (such as ip5) is too limiting because 4 inch is far too small to read web pages and text. The last time anyone calls me to talk about anything useful was the past weekend! A phone which I only use for calls is useless to me.

Often I am in a situation where I want to carry just one device (a phone), not two devices (a phone and a mini tablet), so here the thinking by Apple fails because they think people likes their phone to be as small as possible but actually an average gentleman's trousers pocket or a ladies' handbag can hold much bigger gadgets comfortably. Besides, a small phone plus a mini tablet together is going to be heavier than a large phone, naturally.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4523 times:

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 22):
I think the idea of having a phone with a 4 inch screen (such as ip5) is too limiting because 4 inch is far too small to read web pages and text.

I can't confirm that from my own experience. I'm regularly using the 3.5" 4S to read the web (with iCab mobile: full screen plus various gesture controls) or ebooks and it works well enough when I'm on the road to not really miss my iPad. I only take the iPad with me if I'm carrying a briefcase or travel luggage anyway or if an appointment requires it for more extensive use of documents or for presentations.

A bigger display of course wouldn't hurt when I'm reading, but I wouldn't want to pay for that with it being unusable in daylight (OLED), flimsy mechnical build (thin plastic cases) or with it being too big for easy single-handed use (I practically never use both hands on the phone except sometimes for typing).

You can very well have different priorities, but from my own experience I must definitely disagree with your fact-related claims above.


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

My HTC One X is 133 x 70mm and weighs 134 grams, the info I've found on the Mega is 168 x 88 and 199 grams.

As the One X only just fits in my shirt pocket the Mega is in my opinion too large and too heavy. My wife however would be better off with it as it would be less likely to get lost in her cavernous hand bag.


User currently offlineAyostoLeon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 24):
less likely to get lost in her cavernous hand bag.

Oops. I read that as "carnivorous hand bag."

 


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 25):
Oops. I read that as "carnivorous hand bag."

That could get messy, I guess... 


User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 26):
That could get messy, I guess...

Its a place where only the foolhardy ever penetrate, as it swallows things whole perhaps I did mean Carniverous


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 10):
Yes, they most certainly can. I have an S4 (In fact it's kind of a joke for one of the lady friends that one phone is a 4S & the other an S4), and I have no trouble, at all, using it one-handed.

I second that. I can use my S3 easily with one hand, and the S4 is only 0.2" bigger.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
And the kind of easy, one-handed fullscreen use I get out of my iPhone is simply physically impossible with these big devices, which wouldn't change in any way after months of using them either. At least my fingers won't stretch because of repeated struggle.

Not sure that's always true. I hold my S3 a little differently from my iPhone. It's no less easy to use, but it is kind of a learned skill. Like a lot of things on Android, you can't really just use one for 5 minutes and get the full benefit of using it. There is a learning curve. For me the increased functionality justifies that learning curve (though I can completely understand that for many others it doesn't).



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 28):
Not sure that's always true. I hold my S3 a little differently from my iPhone. It's no less easy to use, but it is kind of a learned skill. Like a lot of things on Android, you can't really just use one for 5 minutes and get the full benefit of using it. There is a learning curve. For me the increased functionality justifies that learning curve (though I can completely understand that for many others it doesn't).

When I'm browsing the web and I need the other hand to tap a link in the upper left corner, then that is not a matter of a learning curve. It is simply a function of the mechanical size.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 29):
When I'm browsing the web and I need the other hand to tap a link in the upper left corner, then that is not a matter of a learning curve. It is simply a function of the mechanical size.

Hmmm- not sure you really read my post. The point is that using it one-handed is perfectly possible if you take the time to learn how. Just as playing the piano can be learned; it requires some dexterity which requires practice.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 30):
Hmmm- not sure you really read my post. The point is that using it one-handed is perfectly possible if you take the time to learn how. Just as playing the piano can be learned; it requires some dexterity which requires practice.

I know that it's possible to take a risk and to juggle a too-large device to still reach all of the display even so, but that is quite a bit removed from easily and safely using it single-handedly throughout, which is what I want and what I've already got, without actual undue limitations on the other side.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 31):
I know that it's possible to take a risk and to juggle a too-large device to still reach all of the display even so, but that is quite a bit removed from easily and safely using it single-handedly throughout, which is what I want and what I've already got, without actual undue limitations on the other side.

I can easily and safely use my phone without limitations and without any fear of dropping it. I don't think I have unduly large hands (although I am a pianist so maybe that helps). As I say though, it's only worth putting in the effort to learn if you will appreciate the benefits. For you evidently a small screen is plenty big enough- for me it is not.

Horses for courses.



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User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

So.....no Galaxy MEGA owners out here?

Apparrently this MEGA is fully functional both horizontally and vertically....that is another advantage I see about this machine.

The many reviews I now worked through all claim that the screen is very good.....also because you don't tend to keep it so close to ones eyes.

Interesting discussion here, between the 1 hand and 2 hand-type of phones........but indeed......

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 32):
Horses for courses.

And I think this phone for me could prove to be a winner!

I just don't know how awkward it is to put music and appas on an external memory card in Android........but I'm sure I'll manage.

Cheers!



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Forget about the Samsung Mega.. the Sony Xperia Z Ultra looks much more promising. Very nice design, water proof and a HD display. Also faster than the Samsung GS4(!)

User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2089 posts, RR: 2
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

I'm a Galaxy Note II owner, so I've got a fair bit of experience with larger-than-normal phones.

My first impression would be that the Galaxy Mega is too large. But then again, I've thought the same about the Galaxy Note, and I was proven totally wrong. It's a great phone that handles very nicely and it not at all clumsy to use and to stow away.

With phone sizes, you won't know it before you try it. I now know that I won't be going back to a 5 inch or smaller smartphone, but depending on the size of your hands and pockets your experience may vary. My advice would be to just give it a go, and make sure you can return the phone within the first weeks of trying it out.

By the way, I can fully operate the Note II with just one hand. I don't have the firmest grip on it then, but I can reach all parts of the screen with my thumb. Android is much suitable for larger phones than iOS, especially because of the function keys at the bottom side of the screen. The single "panic button" on the iPhone may be great for the elderly ("oh dear, where are all the little icons gone? *click* There they are!"), but it just seems a less effective way of operating a phone if you're an Android user. I realize Samsung insisted on copying it, and I'm not a great fan of that either.



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User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Quoting thesultanofwing (Reply 33):
I just don't know how awkward it is to put music and appas on an external memory card in Android........but I'm sure I'll manage.

I haven't tried putting apps on there as I just want my music on there. I just copied it on to the SD card. I copied it in a folder structure similar to what I had in iTunes (artist folder, then album subfolder, then songs in that). The Music App detected it all automatically and sorted it exactly as per the folder structure.

One other feature I like is that you can just stick a jpg image in the same folder as the songs and it becomes the album cover. Useful for all the odd albums I have that iTunes/Android Album Grab didn't recognize.

Note on the galaxy S3 at least there are 2 different music Apps. I use "Music Player" but there's another one called "Play music". I didn't like that much.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 36):
One other feature I like is that you can just stick a jpg image in the same folder as the songs and it becomes the album cover. Useful for all the odd albums I have that iTunes/Android Album Grab didn't recognize.

In iTunes you can simply cut & paste any image into the Album Art field of the info dialog. This is how most of my albums got theirs. Trivially simple, and the covers of course automatically carry over to all iOS devices as well.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4350 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 37):
In iTunes you can simply cut & paste any image into the Album Art field of the info dialog. This is how most of my albums got theirs. Trivially simple, and the covers of course automatically carry over to all iOS devices as well.

Indeed- but that requires installing the iTunes bloatware. As far as I know you can't do it by just dragging and dropping a file into the folder structure. You would know better than I though; I haven't used an iPhone for several months.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 38):
Indeed- but that requires installing the iTunes bloatware.

I don't see any "bloat" on the Mac. It's simply a very good music management and device synchronization software; Very quick and reliable.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 38):
As far as I know you can't do it by just dragging and dropping a file into the folder structure.

Why would I want to dig around in the file system when it's much easier to just select the album in iTunes and pasting the cover into it there while I'm listening to it? (If necessary, I can still tell iTunes to show me the files, but I almost never need that). And any changes (including new covers) automatically appear on the iPhone after I've put it in the dock for charging without me having to lift a finger.

I do more than enough manual fiddling with the file system when I'm working – my music and my mobile devices I want to just work seamlessly, and they do.


User currently offlinetrav110 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

I saw one at BestBuy the other day and it was absurdly large, I'm talking this thing was borderline mini-tablet big. It would be hell carrying it around in your pocket.

User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 39):
I don't see any "bloat" on the Mac. It's simply a very good music management and device synchronization software; Very quick and reliable.

Good for you- not everybody has the same experience.

http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...rrible_bloated_program_to_die.html

http://www.newser.com/story/158509/h...ated-itunes-11-should-be-shot.html

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader...de-from-itunes-11-and-why-i-did-it

Note I'm not interested in an analysis of the content of these articles- just pointing out that not everybody is as in love as you are.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 39):
Why would I want to dig around in the file system

Dropping one file into one folder is hardly "digging around in the file system". I find it much easier than having to run software every time I want to do anything. The software required for me to do this task is natively part of all operating systems.

I might remind you though that the OP I responded to was referring to Android, so I'm not even sure why you feel the need to make the comparison:

Quoting thesultanofwing (Reply 33):
I just don't know how awkward it is to put music and appas on an external memory card in Android



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 41):
Good for you- not everybody has the same experience.

That's why I'm talking about mine.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 41):
Dropping one file into one folder is hardly "digging around in the file system".

No, but having to hunt for the folder in the first place, having to save the image to the filesystem in a format that's hopefully accepted by all players and then again copying those files to all players manually is simply tedious, particularly compared to just invoking Get Info for the album just playing in iTunes and dropping the cover into it (everything else is automatic, including updates to the devices).

I had once done that stuff manually many years ago. And I'm glad I no longer have to.

There's a reason why computers exist, and having to still do everything manually is not it.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 41):
I find it much easier than having to run software every time I want to do anything.

iTunes is my default music player anyway, and it takes about two seconds to launch (actually a bit less).

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 41):
The software required for me to do this task is natively part of all operating systems.

Yeah, I once thought all I needed on an OS was a hex memory monitor. Got a bit tedious at some point, though...


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4002 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 42):
That's why I'm talking about mine.

So to summarize:

Your opinion is that it's simpler to load what you perceive as a lightning fast piece of software which loads in under 2 seconds on your Mac and paste in a clipboard image than working out which file and folder the album is stored in, figuring out which image format to use and copying files in manually.

My opinion is that using three clicks of the mouse to open the correct folder and either dragging in a file in any format natively recognized by the operating system (or pasting one from clipboard data) is quicker than loading what I perceive as a memory-hogging, poorly written piece of bloated crap.

There- two equally valid points of view on a question nobody asked  



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3968 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 43):
My opinion is that using three clicks of the mouse to open the correct folder and either dragging in a file in any format natively recognized by the operating system

...and repeating that process for every device you're using your music on.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 43):
is quicker than loading what I perceive as a memory-hogging, poorly written piece of bloated crap.

That sentiment is tightly correlated to people using Windows. There you have your actual problem.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 43):
There- two equally valid points of view on a question nobody asked

Nope. Just scroll back up.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 44):
That sentiment is tightly correlated to people using Windows. There you have your actual problem.

Windows 7 is fairly speedy for every program I run except one. Guess which one. Who's at fault here, Microsoft or Apple? In any case the point is moot since I primarily run iTunes on my iMac, where it runs equally as sluggishly when running (though does not hog as much memory when it isn't). I only use it on Windows on my wife's laptop.

Again, the articles I quoted above refer to both Windows AND Mac, so blaming everything on Windows is just a cop-out.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 44):
Nope. Just scroll back up.

Ask yourself what drove you to write Reply 37. Now look at the OP of this mini-thread (which to remind you was reply 33) and my reply to that, #36, both written by seasoned iPhone users. Which part of these was asking what features iTunes has?

Quoting Klaus (Reply 44):
...and repeating that process for every device you're using your music on.

I only listen to my music on one device. Again, it's horses for courses. There are many features on the Android which you no doubt have no use for. This is one on the iPhone I have no use for.

As usual, you are finding it hard to be balanced. I always try and explain to people what is good AND bad on the Android. I freely admit some bits suck; many of the stock apps for instance. The overall package works better for me than the iPhone, but needs vary among different people. When you take the alternate route and attempt to excuse every flaw in a product you just remove the incentive for the product to be improved. It does the consumer no good, and rarely changes people's minds anyway.

[Edited 2013-07-01 11:34:14]


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 45):
Ask yourself what drove you to write Reply 37.

Your post #36 indicated that you didn't know that covers could also simply be pasted into albums in iTunes beyond just the auto-detection which you indicated you already used (before then saying you didn't want to install iTunes in the first place, which is a bit contradictory).

Many people don't know half of what iTunes can actually do, and many if not most complaints about it are based on that. Filling such gaps often helps, if not yourself then possibly other readers.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 46):
Your post #36 indicated that you didn't know that covers could also simply be pasted into albums in iTunes beyond just the auto-detection which you indicated you already used

You inferred incorrectly, but I guess I could have worded it better. To me it's axiomatic that loading software is more complex than moving files, but I can see that to others the reverse would be true.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 46):
(before then saying you didn't want to install iTunes in the first place, which is a bit contradictory).

I have never wanted to install iTunes but there's so much on the iPhone you can't do without it I don't have a choice   . I have used iTunes since about 2003 I think, although I rarely do much with it now.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 47):
To me it's axiomatic that loading software is more complex than moving files, but I can see that to others the reverse would be true.

The file exporer or the Finder is also just an application, just one that is always configured for autostart (which is easily set up for iTunes as well).

But actually managing music is a lot quicker and easier in iTunes in pretty much every respect.

Example: Correcting a spelling error in an album or artist name: Just click on it, make the correction and iTunes will not just re-tag all the files but will also rename and if necessary move the files and folders so they are corrected as well. This is a lot more work without a proper tool. And you can't even access the tags with a file manager.

The main reason for using file managers for music management is when the files are not tagged properly, because database tools like iTunes don't deal well with damaged or missing tags. But that is mostly a transient problem, since it affects mostly old and neglected collections.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 48):
The file exporer or the Finder is also just an application, just one that is always configured for autostart (which is easily set up for iTunes as well).

God, what an awful thought  
Quoting Klaus (Reply 48):
The main reason for using file managers for music management is when the files are not tagged properly

These days I find virtually everything is tagged. If I get music from Amazon it's tagged, ditto when it's ripped from CD. Ditto if it's downloaded. I have maybe 5 albums recorded from LP but I am content to do those on an ad hoc basis.

The main thing is that I have the choice to take the route which suits me most; managing things myself or using software to do it. And if I choose the latter route I have many options instead of only one, and I can customize everything to be as complex or lightweight as I need it to be.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 10):
Just to be clear, I certainly have nothing against the iPhone 4S (no experience with the 5 yet,   ), and I think I speak for literally every member of mgmt where I work that we all glad the days of Blackberry's thumb hating keys are long over!

I've had two Curves and never really had any issues with the size of the keyboard, but noticed when messing around with the Bold as well as the Q10, the slightly bigger keyboard and the different sized keys made a significant difference.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 12):
IIRC the BB Q10 has gotten some pretty good reviews.

I opted for the Z10 over the Q10 because I liked the bigger screen plus I didn't want to have to pay a premium for the Q10 (I bought my Z10 outright from T-Mobile for $531.99 before taxes and they want $579.99 before taxes for the Q10.). I had a chance to play around with the Q10 right after the Canadian release as I was out in Vegas with some friends from Alberta and one of them had just gotten a Q10. It's a great phone, but I had pretty much decided on the Z10 after playing with one a few days earlier at a Delta Sky Club at ATL as it was one of their airport locations for the "Keep Moving Tour".


The whole phablet thing I just don't get at all. The upcoming BlackBerry A10 is going to be a phablet, featuring a 4.6" display and if the images leaked in the last several weeks are correct, it just seems a bit too big. Sprint's obviously excited about it, as they've passed over carrying the Z10 (which will become a mid-tier device when the A10 comes out in the fall) in favor of the Z10. While a slightly larger phone can fit in my hand with no problem and still be able to use it one-handed, I just don't have a need for one. The thing is that I think phablets may be where smartphones as well as tablets may be headed whether we like it or not.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 51, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 49):
God, what an awful thought

Bizarre. You must be talking about a completely different program.

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 49):
The main thing is that I have the choice to take the route which suits me most; managing things myself or using software to do it. And if I choose the latter route I have many options instead of only one, and I can customize everything to be as complex or lightweight as I need it to be.

Again not true. iTunes leaves it to you whether you want to manage the actual files yourself (in that case it only remembers where they are – on the Mac you can even rename or move the files within the volume without breaking the connection in iTunes) or if you want iTunes to also manage the files as well. It's an option in the preferences.

iTunes just adds a whole lot of functionality and flexibility on top of that which you don't have and can't replicate just in the file system.

It doesn't subtract any options, it just adds new ones.


User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 52, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 51):
Bizarre. You must be talking about a completely different program.

No, otherwise I would have said the name of that program. But trying to convince you that there can ever be a variation in people's experience with Apple products may be wasting both of our time, so let's pretend that I was actually talking about Adobe Acrobat. Man I hate Adobe Acrobat.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 51):
Again not true. iTunes leaves it to you whether you want to manage the actual files yourself (in that case it only remembers where they are

So I can use an iPhone, import/manage/rename everything in my Music Library without ever having iTunes installed? I will admit I wasn't aware of that. As of when I last experimented (around Xmas 2012), that functionality was not there. I couldn't just poke around on the iPhone and drag and drop files in there and have the iPhone sort them correctly into albums/artists based on the folder structure. Is that incorrect?

Quoting Klaus (Reply 51):
iTunes just adds a whole lot of functionality

Which as I've already explained to you not everybody needs. I have never denied you can do many things with iTunes. In fact its functionality is at the root of its bloatedness.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 51):
and flexibility

Yes, Apple products are all about flexibility, hence the reason why hundreds of thousands of people feel the need to jailbreak iPhones, right?



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User currently offlinemax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1046 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

When I'm traveling in the developed parts of Asia, I've noticed that the large screen phones (especially Galaxy Notes) are especially popular with women. I found out it was for two main reasons and both are related to language.

The large screen combined with the Note's pen stylus makes it possible to literally write Asian language characters on the phone. Also, the Android's ability to install alternate keyboards improve Asian language typing. Both of these make it much faster to input characters vs. other phones.

I also mention women because they tend have bags more often than men so it's easier to carry around those big phones!

[Edited 2013-07-03 06:50:06]


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 54, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 46):
Many people don't know half of what iTunes can actually do, and many if not most complaints about it are based on that. Filling such gaps often helps, if not yourself then possibly other readers.

In other words - iTunes is not user friendly enough.  


User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Quoting max999 (Reply 53):

I also mention women because they tend have bags more often than men so it's easier to carry around those big phones!

And I have my leg-pocket to deal with that!

Quoting srbmod (Reply 50):
The whole phablet thing I just don't get at all.

It's a niche market I guess........
I am assuming it will work for me......on average I probably call 5 minutes a week, tops.
I travel a lot and I have noticed it's mainly an internet machine for me.
I have a good affordable roaming package, an expense that I don't intend to double in order to get a tablet on-line.
I can play my music, play the odd game and will still be able to receive calls or send SMS; while enjoying A-net, pics and my E-mail on this rather big screen. In other words, an I-phone is too small to my taste and carrying both a phone and a tablet is not an option; especially when I roam!

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 36):

I haven't tried putting apps on there as I just want my music on there. I just copied it on to the SD card. I copied it in a folder structure similar to what I had in iTunes (artist folder, then album subfolder, then songs in that). The Music App detected it all automatically and sorted it exactly as per the folder structure.

Great, thanks!

Still no actual Galaxy Mega owner / user here........shame.


Thanks anyway!



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User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

I went window shopping yesterday and saw the phone in the flash. The screen size really is big. Compare to a 5.5 inch screen phone say, the difference didn't look that big. However, compare it to any phone 5.0 inch or below the difference stands out immediately. Thesultanofwing, I'd say you'd want a phone that's as big as possible given what you have said so far.

However, Mega 6.3 is not the only phone that's in this niche category. Sony and Huawei (perhaps LG as well?) have and will soon have a phone with a 6+ inch screen out in the market. So you got some choices there. If you need even more phones to compare the Mega with, on the tablet side there is something called the Asus fonepad which has a 7.0 inch screen. I seriously think that is too big as a phone but it might be worth just using that as a reference point to see what becomes 'too big' for you.


User currently offlinegingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 893 posts, RR: 5
Reply 57, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):

I have pretty large hands. And the regular iPhone still is about the maximum size of screen where the entire screen is comfortably reachable with my thumb when I'm using it single-handedly.

Clearly your hands aren't as large as you think.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8269 posts, RR: 8
Reply 58, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 54):
In other words - iTunes is not user friendly enough.

It's friendly enough for my grandkids to use it.

Ironically, I was reading an article earlier today on mobile platform security that is worth a read before investing in mobile OS devices:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/...s-warnings-on-app-signing-security

The latter part of the article is the main area to focus if you are going to give it a quick read - which I recumbent. (I was actually going to send Klaus a link via IM before I saw this thread.)


User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 56):
Thesultanofwing, I'd say you'd want a phone that's as big as possible given what you have said so far.

Thanks......I think so too!

Will post my experiences here, if somebody's interested!



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User currently offlinethesultanofwing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Galaxy MEGA



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