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Breaking News: QE2 Renamed NEWLiFE By Owners  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

The iconic former Cunard ocean liner Queen Elizabeth 2 is renamed NEW LIFE by their new owners "Oceanic Group" a dual Singapore/HongKong maritime company.

This is the latest update in full from Louis de Souza. Louis, who worked on board QE2 for several years, has contacts with crew members on the ship at Dubai Dry Docks.

Quote:

QE2 Status as of 29th June 2013

*Power onboard still coming from shoreside but limited so is her AC
*Captain and Crew from Ukraine still onboard
*Only maintance work is carried out by this crew
*Ship is now called NEWLIFE still waiting for more info on this.
*Word is the Chinese have backed off on taking her to China due to damage on engines and tank plates.
*Paint on the ship's exterior is faded her teak is in miserable conditions
*Inside nothing has been changed or demolished but all starting to get in bad conditions

They had renamed France/Norway the Blue Lady and we all know how that ended... a beach in Alang... this time it ay very well be a scrap yard in China with the former QE2 being sold for metal cost.

It's all been Dubai-ous since she arrived at Port Rashid

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/qe2-rea...nation-of-dubai-20081127-6j7n.html

Time to say goodbye?

         


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19369 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3161 times:

Is the lower-case "i" in the thread title intentional? Did they actually do that in the ship's name? Or was that a typo?

(Not being snarky, just curious).


User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

I loved those pictures of the QE2 in that article. She is a real stunner.

The MENA countries have no culture of maintenance, things just fall apart from neglect. I suspect this is what will happen to the QE2. One day that company will turn around and say she is beyond repair and by the sounds of it that day is not too far off.

I have no real issues with her neglect in Dubai, as this is only to be expected, but I'm more outraged (for want of a better word) that the UK did not really attempt to save this iconic piece of British design from the scrapheap.


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3807 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

While this might be big news for some people, I think the label "Breaking News" is hardly appropriate. Now if the ship sinks then it might be "breaking news", but here we're talking about some derelict cruise ship that had its name changed. Here's more breaking news: This happens every day!

Soren   



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10630 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
but here we're talking about some derelict cruise ship that had its name changed. Here's more breaking news: This happens every day!

This is not "some derelict cruise ship", its the icon among the older cruise ships. Or would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper", or Madonna "some aging pop singer".


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Is the lower-case "i" in the thread title intentional? Did they actually do that in the ship's name? Or was that a typo?

(Not being snarky, just curious).

With the sun right in my face while typing on the A.net forums dark background even with proof reading I must have missed out on this detail in the title.

Should read NEWLIFE or NEW LIFE whichever way the owners will decide to have it.

    



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20341 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

I thought the QE2 was supposed to be turned into a floating hotel?

http://qe2hotels.com/new/www/index.php

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
"Breaking News" is hardly appropriate.

Agreed. Unnecessarily dramatic.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3607 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
or Madonna "some aging pop singer".

No, I'd call her an embarrassing aging pop singer.


User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8395 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
"Breaking News"

Breaking News: QE2 is going to the breakers.

See?   


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7084 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 8):
Breaking News: QE2 is going to the breakers.

She surely is, she's a gonner like I always said she would be, the ship is a huge sinkhole for money, it's just not worth the cost to convert to a floating hotel nor will anyone really be able to afford to keep her in tiptop condition as a museum ship.


User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8395 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2962 times:

So it really is breaking news!!  

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2946 times:

Latest update from Louis de Sousa via his contacts on the Ship:

The name of Captain at present is LOGYNOV GRYGORIY

Why they have hired a Ukrainian crew is anyone's guess.

Is it a matter of cost?

The Chinese owners "Oceanic Group" could have hired a Chinese crew. This is rather strange.

 Wow!



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19369 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
With the sun right in my face while typing on the A.net forums dark background even with proof reading I must have missed out on this detail in the title.

Thank goodness. I was going to be horrified if they'd done that.  
Quoting na (Reply 4):
This is not "some derelict cruise ship", its the icon among the older cruise ships.

She is not a CRUISE SHIP! She is an OCEAN LINER. There is a difference. Until 2008 with the launch of Queen Mary 2 she was the only remaining ocean liner in the world. Now QM2 is.

An ocean liner has a stronger structure, more powerful engines, and higher freeboard than a cruise ship. While a cruise ship will certainly survive a big storm, an ocean liner is meant to proceed through that storm at speed. A cruise ship is built to withstand heavy seas, while an ocean liner is built to operate normally in heavy seas. Another way of thinking is that a cruise ship is a hull built around a resort hotel, while an ocean liner is a hotel built into a hull.

I am not knocking cruise ships. Cruise ships are fantastic machines designed to perform a mission, but that mission generally involves calm, warm water (Caribbean, Hawaii, etc.), and nobody aboard is in any hurry to get anywhere. On a liner, the setting is the North Atlantic and the goal is to get from New York to Southampton as quickly as possible. Because liners are stronger and more powerful, they also cost about 1.5-2x as much per ton to build as a cruise ship.

The liners were the only way of getting across the ocean for a long time (it was wooden sailing ships before liners) and only vanished from service after the advent of the 707. Within five years of the 707's roll-out, more than 95% of transoceanic travel switched to jet aircraft.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2373 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

I agree with some of the other posters. Let's not inflate the term "breaking news" even more than it already is.

User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7084 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
Until 2008 with the launch of Queen Mary 2 she was the only remaining ocean liner in the world. Now QM2 is.

Good lord Doc we've gone over this before she was not the last and neither is QM2. Built as ocean liners and still in operation today are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Athena

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Marco_Polo


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19369 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
Good lord Doc we've gone over this before she was not the last and neither is QM2. Built as ocean liners and still in operation today are

Sorry. I should have specified "great liners." The exact definition is subjective, but neither of these count among the great liners.

And neither of them is doing liner duty today.


User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Athena

WOW.  Wow!

The Stockholm is still around?



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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8395 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 16):
The Stockholm is still around?

Good lord. That's the most checkered history I ever read.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
This is not "some derelict cruise ship", its the icon among the older cruise ships. Or would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper", or Madonna "some aging pop singer".

If the shoe fits....

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 16):
The Stockholm is still around?

And people complain about old airliners!!



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7084 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Sorry. I should have specified "great liners." The exact definition is subjective, but neither of these count among the great liners.

Stockholm is/was a very famous Liner.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
I should have specified "great liners."

A liner is a liner, it doesn't matter if they were immigrant ships to the dominions or trans Atlantic liners they all fulfilled the same purpose, moving folks from a to b.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19369 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 19):
Stockholm is/was a very infamous Liner.

FTFY.  


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5627 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
She is not a CRUISE SHIP! She is an OCEAN LINER. There is a difference. Until 2008 with the launch of Queen Mary 2 she was the only remaining ocean liner in the world. Now QM2 is

You seem to have a passion for old queens, Doc . . .  


User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2073 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
Or would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper", .

... would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper"?

Yep

... or Madonna "some aging pop singer"?

Hell, yes!

  



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User currently onlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 22):
Quoting na (Reply 4):
Or would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper", .

... would you call the Empire State Building "some old skyscraper"?

Yep

... or Madonna "some aging pop singer"?

Hell, yes!

*tsk tsk*
Be nice!     



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10630 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 22):

I am sure of that, and also about that you are just "some old european" 


25 Post contains links airlinefreak1 : Time to dispell all the rumours (!) News confirms that QE2 is set to leave Dubai on October 18th bound for its new home in china. http://www.arabianbu
26 Post contains images OA260 : LMAO Thats great. There have been so many wrong assumptions and reports it had become a joke!
27 cptkrell : I thought seamen traditionally considered it 'bad luck' to rename a vessel. I guess this isn't protocol anymore? Or, are many vessels renamed after or
28 Post contains images n229nw : Holy crap: looked like this: (already 57 years ago at age 8) and in that condition rescued a whole lot of survivors and then steamed down to NY on he
29 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : I have just logged to the forums to post on this. Received from friend Louis de Sousa QE2 updates as of 7th July 2013 ( from Dubai World) *QE2s new o
30 Post contains links na : http://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cr...24-qe2-bound-for-the-far-east.html
31 stealthz : This figure concerns me, just does not seem enough for this kind of project. The cynic in me leans towards the Dubai people being willing to spend bi
32 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Latest information on QE2 "NEW LIFE" just received from Louis de Sousa Hear hear everybody... This is the Chairman's speech (Chairman Mao Dubai style)
33 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : New QE2 update - many thanks to Louis de Sousa 17 July 2013 Today, a Request for Proposal (RFP) has been sent out to selected interior design companie
34 type-rated : I thought someone said in a past post that they already have removed her engines. I guess not.
35 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : QE2 latest write-up Thanks to Louis de Sousa for providing the link. QE2- STORMY WEATHER AHEAD? These are uncertain days for QE2. Storm clouds hang ov
36 qantas077 : I just took 45min to read most of this and the only thing I could wonder is why we don't show as much compassion towards people as some seem to show t
37 KiwiRob : Yippee finally someone who agrees with me, she has reached the end of her working life, she should be scrapped, turning her into something she was ne
38 qantas077 : it's not hard to agree on a trivial matter such as this...the quicker they do away with this rotting carcass the better. Too much hanging on to the p
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