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Are You Parking "Back-in, Head-out"?  
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20479 posts, RR: 62
Posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

I've been noticing a trend of people backing into parking spaces lately. It's been catching my eye as I once had to take the fault for backing into a car in the lane in a parking lot, when the lane had been clear when I began backing up.

The other day I went to pick up a colleague at his hotel, and noticed that almost half of the cars were parked backwards in the spaces that were at 90° angles to the driving lane. So I've been giving it a try, and I actually like it. It's taking some getting used to—I've set up the controls for Driver #2 on the car for side mirrors down so I can see the lane markers at the touch of a button—but it's not that difficult.

There seems to be a reason for it, it cuts down on parking lot accidents (good for me!), and is safer in terms of being able to see people, especially children who might be in your path.

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Quote:
"When backing in, I have to drive past the slot, then back in. On my way past it, I can look in the slot to ensure it is clear. I have situational awareness, so it is pretty safe to back in. When I leave, I just have to drive out and that is safer than backing out. If I don't back in, when I leave I have to back out into what is basically unknown traffic."

Backing into traffic in parking lots is more hazardous than you might think. Parking lot crash statistics are a bit hazy, particularly for crashes involving only property damage, but a study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in 2001 and 2002 found that 14 percent of all damage claims involved crashes in parking lots (some number of which must have involved vehicles moving in and out of spaces).

As the article from slate.com asks, if the logic of back-in parking is so clear, why doesn't everyone do it?


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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1355 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

I generally back in, for the reasons mentioned, and also that I like it more that way.

As well, where I live, there is a slight incline out front, so it's just as easy to roll by it in N, let the hill take my momentum, and slide back into my spot(s). I also drive a standard, so this (backing in in general) makes it easier to remember to leave my car in R after I've set the brake.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5383 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

The only time I nose in is when I expect to have to access the back of my vehicle to load or unload, e.g. Lowe's, Kroger.

I got into the habit of backing in when I was on the fire department. We always left the vehicles in a "ready to go" fashion.

Later, my employer made it policy to back into a parking spot whenever possible for the very same safety reasons stated in the article cited.

As an added benefit, in states where only one license plate is required, you're less likely to have your license plate recorded by a trolling police vehicle.   

[Edited 2013-06-29 09:12:42]

[Edited 2013-06-29 09:43:40]


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20479 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 2):
Later, my employer made it policy to back into a parking spot whenever possible for the very same safety reasons stated in the article cited.

Now that makes some sense for why I was seeing it at this hotel filled mostly with people traveling on business, rather than say at the grocery store where I see it perhaps less than 1 in 10.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 2):
As an added benefit, in states where only one license plate is required, you're less likely to have your license plate recorded by a trolling police vehicle.

Didn't even think about that!   



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12414 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

I stink at backing in, due to eyesight challenges. My next car, whatever it will be and whenever it will arrive, will have a backup camera on it and perhaps then I'll take up the challenge.


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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

100% back in, all the time.
IMHO, if you can't back into a parking spot using just the mirrors, then you shouldn't even be granted a driving license.


User currently offlineplanewasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting photopilot (Reply 5):
if you can't back into a parking spot using just the mirrors

You should always, always, look back for real, not through mirrors when going backwards. You will se much more, such as kids about to run behind your car.

I think one other reason why people back in is that most cars looks much better from the front, that was one reason for me when I was younger at least.  


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

I back in if I can, as I prefer to spend the extra few seconds while parking instead of spending the time when departing.

Of course, it is much easier to see what you are pulling out into when you leave, so that ads a level of safety.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15727 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
Are You Parking "Back-in, Head-out"? 

Generally no, but I will often pull through a vacant adjacent spot. The only exception is when there is a big event where people will be leaving at once, like a sporting event. In that case I figure it's worth the time and effort to not have to back out later.



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5491 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

I often do back in and one of the primary reasons is to maximize the space for me to open my door get out. With the advent of narrower parking spaces and since most people still pull in nose first, I can make the passenger-side to passenger-side much tighter than usual giving enough space to open my door and get out.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 5):
IMHO, if you can't back into a parking spot using just the mirrors,

While I use my mirrors to monitor my spacing I always begin with twisting and looking backwards outside to ensure things are OK. I have a back-up camera as well but would never just rely on it.

Tugg



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6585 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

It's how it's taught here, in fact if during the driving exam the inspector tells you to park in a 90° parking spot and you go front in, it's over.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20479 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 10):
It's how it's taught here

Interesting. Somehow, having learned how to drive almost 40 years ago, this phenomena of parking backwards has completely passed me by. (Not that Driver's Ed at school nor my driving test back then was any great shakes.) We were only taught how to parallel park.

I've driven through a double-length space before, like mentioned above, but then pulling out into the lane front first has felt as unusual as sitting backwards in a plane during takeoff.



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User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

I never backed in much til I started hanging out with a couple friends who do it all the time. I like it, my parking spot at home has a slight uphill incline so I back up to the concrete stop then go forward about a foot that way when it snows I can back up and get a run at it if I need to. I really like if If I ever have a dead battery and need a boost.


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

My wife couldn't back into a parking spot to save her life. I almost always back in.

My 'car' is a 21 foot long Dodge 2500 pickup.

The main reason I back in is because I can't see very well out the back of the truck with the bed topper if I have to back out.

I learned how to back in with my father's 1965 Chevy Pickup with a camper shell on top. Been doing it every since.


User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8216 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
I've driven through a double-length space before,

That's the easiest way to park as well as the easiest way to leave.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
has felt as unusual as sitting backwards in a plane during takeoff.

That is actually my preference as it means I in Business Class on a BA long haul flight. Gonna do that again in September.  


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

I figured this had more to do with rear wheel drives in snowy/icy areas and old habits. Meaning that a rear wheel drive that's been snowed/iced in takes work to drive out but not if you're going forward.

Not too many on the west coast part back in. A large percentage in the midwest do.


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Well, down here in the sticks, a lot of goobers back in to the saloon parking lots because they don't want their plates to be "read", but more oftenly it's because they don't want a jealous girfriend to I.D. the vehicle (remember, about 75% of the pickemup trucks around here are white, and chicks can't tell a GM from a Ford from a Dodge, but they CAN remember the ""XXX" on the plate!).

Seriously (actually, the above IS serious) when I'm at a Home Depot or such knowing I'm going to buy something six or eight foot long, I'll pull ahead into a parking space so as not to worry about backing into a traffic "hunter" lane. Otherwise, I'll usually back in. Ahh...visibility.

BTW, I notice a lot of people backing in whilst turning around to "see" throught the backlight and not look through the side RV mirrors to guage their progress. Incompetency. And kinda stupid. Just like turning your steering wheel when the vehicle is not even in a slight bit of forward or rearward motion. Great for front tire scrub, eh?

Anyway, I like backing in...you never know when you need a "quick gettaway". best regards...jack



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User currently offlinePITingres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

I used to back in regularly. I don't much any more, mostly because nobody else around here seems to do it and you end up in a pissing and horn honking contest with someone who is right up your muffler and doesn't want to give you room to reverse. I do always however back into the driveway. It was mandatory to back into the garage in the house I lived in when I learned to drive.


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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

I only back into parking spaces in underground parking garages. For some reason it's easier for me to back into tight space than drive straight in.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 10):
It's how it's taught here, in fact if during the driving exam the inspector tells you to park in a 90° parking spot and you go front in, it's over.

That's interesting. In former Czechoslovakia was expressly forbidden to back into 90° parking spots due to the exhaust gases being emitted directly to the people on the sidewalks.


User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2999 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2835 times:

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 18):
That's interesting. In former Czechoslovakia was expressly forbidden to back into 90° parking spots due to the exhaust gases being emitted directly to the people on the sidewalks.

Did people leave their engines running for extended periods of time?

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 16):
Well, down here in the sticks, a lot of goobers back in to the saloon parking lots because they don't want their plates to be "read", but more oftenly it's because they don't want a jealous girfriend to I.D. the vehicle (remember, about 75% of the pickemup trucks around here are white, and chicks can't tell a GM from a Ford from a Dodge, but they CAN remember the ""XXX" on the plate!).

I was thinking it would be easier to hook up the jumper cables. 

I never ran into the backing in to 90deg spots until about 15 years ago when the Oil and Gas Industry started requiring it for safety reasons. The idea is that you have passed and visually inspected the area in which you are going to back your vehicle into which is a stationary environment. When departing you are facing an unobstructed view of a non stationary environment.

I park both ways in the civilian environment depending on my perception of the least chance of an incident.

Okie


User currently offlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

I find it easier to back in than to drive in forwards. Then you have the benefit of being able to see better when pilling out when you're leaving. As said before, if there's a double-length space then I'll usually take that. And I will always look for a spot away from other cars and walk a few extra feet.


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1673 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2800 times:
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I prefer to back in so I can get out easier, but sometimes when I am being tailgated in the parking lot, if I pull forward enough to back in, the person following pulls into that space. Either that or he continues to ride my bumper so I can't back in.

Bob Bradley



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User currently offlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

Quoting L1011 (Reply 21):
if I pull forward enough to back in, the person following pulls into that space.

Best thing to do is to stop short (so you are covering the opening to the space) and indicate that direction. They'll soon get the message and go around you.



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User currently offlinefr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5383 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Quoting L1011 (Reply 21):
, if I pull forward enough to back in, the person following pulls into that space.

I usually swing hard away from the spot so that the rear of my vehicle is pointed at the spot I plan to occupy. Folks get the idea pretty quickly.



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User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3604 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 18):

I only back into parking spaces in underground parking garages. For some reason it's easier for me to back into tight space than drive straight in.

That's what everybody has missed, besides the sight and snow advantage, you can better park in tighter spaces with the wheels in the rear steering while pivoting on the lead-in wheels. That is why forklifts steer with the rear.


25 YYZatcboy : I always drive through a parking spot if I can. Even if it means taking a slightly longer walk to the store or wherever. Not that it really matters th
26 blueflyer : Found out the hard way a local college close to home actually makes it illegal to back in. I can't even begin to understand why. If everyone did, I wo
27 BMI727 : 19 year old girls.
28 TupolevTu154 : I have a bit of an issue with driving straight into a space, perhaps even verging on an OCD. I parked nose in to a spot the other day to unload the bo
29 sccutler : Vastly easier to park a '76 Eldorado backed-in, than nose-in. That hood is LONG!
30 B747forever : Same thing here. Only head in parking allowed.
31 fr8mech : It's not a matter of who is at fault, it's a matter of avoiding the accident to begin with. I attending a school (one semester) that had this rule. I
32 blueflyer : Can't begin to understand that one either... I won't be that asshole. Too expensive!
33 L-188 : I work for a company that made that a requirement that you back in, a partly some bozo in the safety depart read some article sthat said it was safer.
34 777ER : 99% of the time at home I'll back into the driveway to park. When I park in the garage I always back in as I prefer to park close to the wall away fro
35 cptkrell : Shins into receiver hitches...ouch. I have welded a receiver hitch to the front cow-catcher/guard on the Silverado I use mostly for farm work and die
36 Post contains images PHX787 : Lots of people back in so its easier to get out. Since my old car had a wide ass, I couldn't really back it in well enough, so I would instead drive t
37 Post contains links and images dandaire : I'm surprised no one has mentioned so far that it actually saves you money if back into a parking space. It is more economical to reverse and shunt wh
38 WarRI1 : I was always trained to back up a vehicle as a last resort. If you do not absolutely have to, avoid it. You could be suspended where I worked for gett
39 Post contains images Beardown91737 : That should work the other way around for rear wheel drive. The drive wheels can roll over snow. If the wheels are not powered, they tend to let the
40 B727 : I usually back in. Being a former fire cheif. Vehicles are backed in to be ready for response. B727
41 Post contains images curtisman : Well I'm not one to back in. One reason is when I am out and about I am often shopping or travelling. Therefore when I approach my car I want quick an
42 Post contains images Airstud : I became a car-haver last September for the first time in >20 years, and due to the layout of my apartment building's garage; there's really no oth
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