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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3314 times:
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First off, let me say I don't have any kids myself, and I don't mind being around them. Forewarning this is a long rant.

It seems to me that a lot of parents are going too far in showing off their kids. I have a cousin with a three year old and they think they can never say no to him and always show him off to everyone. It's nearly impossible to hold any type of conversation with them because it always reverts to something about their kid. When they came up and visited a couple weeks ago, the whole family revolved around the child. If we were going out to eat and the three year old didn't want to or wanted to go somewhere else, we didn't go. If he wanted to go buy toys, they would drive an hour to spend a lot of money that they don't have for whatever he wanted. When they got married a couple months ago they didn't allow anyone to bring any of their kids to the wedding reception, as the didn't want the attention on any child but their own who was there. What is it with parents who can't say no these days? I guess I was raised partially by my stepfather who didn't treat me as his own, so I had a different upbringing. I didn't expect to have much of anything purchased for me, and I surely didn't dare cry or make a scene when I was little, as I remember being locked in the car for hours at a time. When they were up to visit, I sternly but nicely told the kid to get off the dinner table while we were eating, as he doesn't need to be crawling around on it while we were eating and there are plates, etc. on the table. I received a glare from my aunt, almost as if I'm the a-hole for saying anything. I ended up taking my food and eating downstairs.

My second gripe is Facebook. It's nice to see pictures every once in a while, but I don't need to see hourly updates on your child. Last night, this woman I am friends with took a picture of child before the fireworks (less than 6 months old), then had a comparison shot during the fireworks, then another picture showing what he looked like after the fireworks. They all looked the same! Some of these single mothers need to get a job and get a life instead of collecting government money and taking pictures of their children and spending hours editing and posting them on Facebook. Also talking about how your kid pooped his pants at the playground or he has a big penis. Really??

Another rant is a different aunt who lives in Minnesota and has a 7th grader. She's always wanting me to come up to visit and fix their computer for him to use. Whenever I try to get ahold of her, she always claims she is too busy (another one who sits on Facebook all day, doesn't work or get out of the house much) and maybe it will work out the following month. I'll spend 15-30 minutes writing a nice email or so, also including a few of my personal life happenings, only to get a reply with nothing but about how her 7th grader "wrote on the road with sidewalk chalk without any help" or "he's so amazing cause he did this." She completely ignores any of my personal life and what I have to say or what's going on. It's to the point I don't even contact her back now because I know she will be talking non-stop about how her child did this or that when it's really not impressive to me at all. I know I would be proud of my child too, but it seems like many mothers (and fathers) today make it far too excessive. There seems to be a constant attention-seeking behavior these days from the parents.

Another non-kid gripe I have is females these days in general. I have never seen so many self-centered, entitled, unintelligent young women. Now don't get me wrong, there are men out there too like that, but it just seems to be depressing. Of course the attractive ones know they can get away with it. I play mister nice guy, and it ends up getting me no where. I am completely frustrated with my dating scene, and I have lots of regrets from ex-girlfriends even though it's in the past.

Maybe I am looking too much into this and I'm sure I sound narcissistic, but I'm really annoyed. It just leads me to hide these people on Facebook and basically have little contact with them in real life. I am hoping to see a psychologist here soon to see if I'm just messed up in the head. Thoughts?

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User currently offlinedarthluke12694 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

I totally understand your rant.

First of all, like you said there is nothing wrong with being proud of your kids, but there is a time when enough is enough. It sounds like in your situation they were being excessive. There is nothing wrong with talking about your kid, but I agree that it shouldn't be a part of every conversation. Some parents probably do this to show that their kids are better than everyone elses.

I also agree on Facebook. It drives me nuts when I see parents have their profile picture as their kid. I don't know why, it just does. Again, nothing wrong with posting about their child on Facebook, but some things should stay of Facebook. Luckily, there is a hide option.

As far as kids behavior, some parents just don't know how to handle it. I was at the bank a few weeks ago and a couple came in with 2 kids. The couple were at the counter with the teller, and let their kids roam free in the bank (it was only the couple tellers, and I in the bank). One of the kids sits down at an empty desk employees sit at to talk with customers. The kid starts typing on the keyboard, and then plays with the phone, at one point it was on speaker with the dial tone loud enough for everyone in the bank to hear. One of the parents said stop, come here, but the kid stayed there. That is all the parents said to the kid until it was time to leave. In the mean time, all of the employees were looking at the kid and it was easy to read their faces (as in tell your kid to stop).

I wouldn't worry about it though. Just don't talk to them, or try to ignore it. It's the way people are. If I ever have kids (which I sure hope I don't), I would never do any of those things. I'd be proud of some things, and I would share with people things I was proud of (such as first word, first steps, etc.) but not every little thing.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
It seems to me that a lot of parents are going too far in showing off their kids.

Wait, wait, isn't that episode #71 of I Love Lucy with the Applebys and Little Stevie?   

(But yes, I know how you feel on both accounts. Good rant.)



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
Facebook

You need not say anymore. I had it with some of my Facebook friends who are nothing but attention whores posting nonstop crap 24 hours a day 7 days a week. I didn't drop them as Facebook friends, but I learned how to block their posts so they don't show up on my Facebook page. I now spend less than 10 minutes per day on Facebook without all that useless crap.


User currently offlinejoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 802 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Yeah - re that Facebook thing.
Makes me glad I am not one of those people that add everyone I ever meet in my life, like what feels like most other people my age (mid 20's).
About once a year I do a bit of Facebook culling, but my list is so small - http://www.news.com.au/technology/tm...ebook/story-e6frfro0-1226654560592


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5572 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
I have a cousin with a three year old and they think they can never say no to him and always show him off to everyone. It's nearly impossible to hold any type of conversation with them because it always reverts to something about their kid. When they came up and visited a couple weeks ago, the whole family revolved around the child. If we were going out to eat and the three year old didn't want to or wanted to go somewhere else, we didn't go. If he wanted to go buy toys, they would drive an hour to spend a lot of money that they don't have for whatever he wanted. When they got married a couple months ago they didn't allow anyone to bring any of their kids to the wedding reception, as the didn't want the attention on any child but their own who was there

The cousins from hell and their spoiled brat: avoid at all costs.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
I have a cousin with a three year old and they think they can never say no to him and always show him off to everyone. It's nearly impossible to hold any type of conversation with them because it always reverts to something about their kid. When they came up and visited a couple weeks ago, the whole family revolved around the child. If we were going out to eat and the three year old didn't want to or wanted to go somewhere else, we didn't go. If he wanted to go buy toys, they would drive an hour to spend a lot of money that they don't have for whatever he wanted. When they got married a couple months ago they didn't allow anyone to bring any of their kids to the wedding reception, as the didn't want the attention on any child but their own who was there.

I wouldnt bother seeing them anymore. I dont do screaming kids or stupid parents. You tell a kid no once , then a warning and then an hour locked in their bedroom .



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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2630 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Spot on. Like many other bachelors, I'm fed up with women who can't seem to understand that 100% of life doesn't revolve around their kid. They don't seem to understand the differences between Adult-time, Kid-time, and Family-time.

Very similar to this "kid" problem is the "dog" problem. Some people can't seem to see the difference between dogs, kids, people.

Between parents showing off their kids, showing off their dogs (like they were children) there isn't much time left for real adult interactions.


User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3219 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

No need to see if you're "just messed up in the head". At least in my opinion. Your observations mirror my thoughts and I agree.

I would comment, however, as aggravating as a picture album of someone elses kids ("Here's Johnny getting on the bus. Here's Johnny on the bus. Here's Johnny getting off the bus, etc, etc), one positive factor is that there ARE some parents who care about their kids and are proud of them rather than ignoring them and letting them run off and join a kiddie street gang. I guess I'm just not interested in little Johnny's bus ride.

About Facebook...can't comment. Never been there. Don't plan to. regards...jack



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3083 times:
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I too despise facebook these days, partly because of the people who have pictures of their kids as their avatar, and because of so much lame bullshit people post. I particularly hate anything that contains words to the effect of "repost this if...." and "I know most of you won't repost this, but those who really care will....". Also, I cannot BEAR those stupid posts with totally unoriginal 'pearls of wisdom' on pictures. They make me want to puke with rage. I have come close to deleting myself altogether from it because of the extreme prevalence of such foolishness, but alas too many of my close friends do use it for it not to be a convenient form of communication.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
I too despise facebook these days, partly because of the people who have pictures of their kids as their avatar, and because of so much lame bullshit people post. I particularly hate anything that contains words to the effect of "repost this if...." and "I know most of you won't repost this, but those who really care will....". Also, I cannot BEAR those stupid posts with totally unoriginal 'pearls of wisdom' on pictures. They make me want to puke with rage. I have come close to deleting myself altogether from it because of the extreme prevalence of such foolishness, but alas too many of my close friends do use it for it not to be a convenient form of communication.

Facebook is ok if you control it and put up restrictions on what you see and also what others see. I have it down to a fine art now and it works well for me. Alot of people dont know how to use it and how to restrict their personal info etc...

I agree with you about those stupid motivational pics and captions but we have threads on here with that crap too!!

Most recent one on FB ''How many likes for this soaked cat'' ....

I dont mind things that are genuinely funny / jokes etc.. but rarely are they.

People having their kids on FB without restrictions are asking for trouble !



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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3050 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
People having their kids on FB without restrictions are asking for trouble !

I agree. I like to think that I choose my friends wisely, but at the same time I have some friends on Facebook that I haven't seen in quite some time, and some people who are more professional acquaintances. I wouldn't trust all of them to know what my kid looks like, what "cute" thing he or she said that day, or other details of their lives that could be taken advantage of. After all, most pedophiles are known to the child. Secondly, I just find that annoying as can be and why would I do that to other people in return. Your children are only cute to you.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26488 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 11):
I agree. I like to think that I choose my friends wisely, but at the same time I have some friends on Facebook that I haven't seen in quite some time, and some people who are more professional acquaintances. I wouldn't trust all of them to know what my kid looks like, what "cute" thing he or she said that day, or other details of their lives that could be taken advantage of. After all, most pedophiles are known to the child. Secondly, I just find that annoying as can be and why would I do that to other people in return. Your children are only cute to you.

Yes and delete those that dont bother to like or say hi at least once every 6 months unless there is a specific reason for it. Most people if they are friends will have some form of contact within a 6 months period. Also have a restricted list for those that are not actual friends. It means they have some access but limited and controlled by you. Family albums can also be made invitation only and its a great way to control it.



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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2988 times:
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Quoting darthluke12694 (Reply 1):

First of all, like you said there is nothing wrong with being proud of your kids, but there is a time when enough is enough. It sounds like in your situation they were being excessive. There is nothing wrong with talking about your kid, but I agree that it shouldn't be a part of every conversation. Some parents probably do this to show that their kids are better than everyone elses.

I also agree on Facebook. It drives me nuts when I see parents have their profile picture as their kid. I don't know why, it just does. Again, nothing wrong with posting about their child on Facebook, but some things should stay of Facebook. Luckily, there is a hide option.
Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
Spot on. Like many other bachelors, I'm fed up with women who can't seem to understand that 100% of life doesn't revolve around their kid. They don't seem to understand the differences between Adult-time, Kid-time, and Family-time.
Quoting cptkrell (Reply 8):
No need to see if you're "just messed up in the head". At least in my opinion. Your observations mirror my thoughts and I agree.

Thanks for everyone's responses. I guess my mind isn't off like I thought lol. I am surprised to see so many members agree with my observations as I figured I'd have some backlash.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

One of the big problems these days is the lack of discipline (I include my own kids as well), in Norway and now in NZ you are not allowed to discipline your children in the traditional manor, a simple wack on the bum worked wonders for me but as a parent these days that's simply not allowed. Taking toys away from kids or stopping TV time really doesn't work.

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2942 times:
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Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
It seems to me that a lot of parents are going too far in showing off their kids. I have a cousin with a three year old and they think they can never say no to him and always show him off to everyone. It's nearly impossible to hold any type of conversation with them because it always reverts to something about their kid. When they came up and visited a couple weeks ago, the whole family revolved around the child. If we were going out to eat and the three year old didn't want to or wanted to go somewhere else, we didn't go. If he wanted to go buy toys, they would drive an hour to spend a lot of money that they don't have for whatever he wanted. When they got married a couple months ago they didn't allow anyone to bring any of their kids to the wedding reception, as the didn't want the attention on any child but their own who was there. What is it with parents who can't say no these days? I guess I was raised partially by my stepfather who didn't treat me as his own, so I had a different upbringing. I didn't expect to have much of anything purchased for me, and I surely didn't dare cry or make a scene when I was little, as I remember being locked in the car for hours at a time. When they were up to visit, I sternly but nicely told the kid to get off the dinner table while we were eating, as he doesn't need to be crawling around on it while we were eating and there are plates, etc. on the table. I received a glare from my aunt, almost as if I'm the a-hole for saying anything. I ended up taking my food and eating downstairs.

I've heard the whole toys thing. But no kids at the wedding? That is insane! When my mom and stepfather got married I was 10 years old and my brother was 9. We would have lost our minds if we didn't have our new cousins to play with. I don't understand the toy thing either. Yeah I was spoiled by my grandparents when I was little. But not from my folks. They were stern, stern but fair!

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
I am completely frustrated with my dating scene, and I have lots of regrets from ex-girlfriends even though it's in the past

I find dating annoying. It's more political than Washington. I stick with the single life. Freedom, cash in my pocket, and less headaches. I think the term for that is utopia.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
Very similar to this "kid" problem is the "dog" problem. Some people can't seem to see the difference between dogs, kids, people.

My favorite is when someone takes a picture with their dog and says "Oh she just loves her mommy!" Like what.... It's a dog. Don't get me wrong I love dogs. I can't wait to go home and see my favorite little dog Paris, but I don't post a bazillion pics of her on facebook saying she's "Daddy's little girl!"

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
I particularly hate anything that contains words to the effect of "repost this if...." and "I know most of you won't repost this, but those who really care will....".

If someone shares a picture of that nature on my facebook, they are immediately off the friends list. If you honestly think Bill Gates is going to give you a billion for sharing a photo instead of donating it to his foundation you are insane.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
One of the big problems these days is the lack of discipline (I include my own kids as well), in Norway and now in NZ you are not allowed to discipline your children in the traditional manor, a simple wack on the bum worked wonders for me but as a parent these days that's simply not allowed. Taking toys away from kids or stopping TV time really doesn't work.

Same problems in the US. I remember when I was little, I screwed up and I got a smack on the rear end. This wasn't even that many years ago. My little brother and sister who are 11 and 10, no way that could happen to them. They'd lock my dad up and throw away the key. The problem though is also the parents who don't want to punish their kids and want to be their friends. I'm a better person because my parents gave me tough love and rewarded me when I earned it. Not because they were best friends with me and let me go crazy.
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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1776 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

An excellent rant iowaman! I'm at the age where many couples are having their first child. As such, my Facebook is constantly bombarded by my friends from highschool/university bragging, posting pictures, and giving minute-by-minute updates of their newborn. Some of them have kids that are almost in kindergarten and they still do it.

Even more annoying are the few friends I have on Facebook who seem that being an uncle/aunt is the greatest achievement of their life. These people are going to be so obnoxious when they have their own kids  

If I may add to the ongoing Facebook rant: I cannot stand the people that share pictures of people holding up winning lotto tickets saying that they will give every person who shares the picture $1,000. Time and time again, these hoaxes have been reported as just that, hoaxes, yet people continue to believe it.

I'd continue ranting, but I can feel my blood pressure elevating at just the thought of it, and that can't be good for a guy in his early-20s.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
showing off their dogs (like they were children)

I'll admit I'm somewhat guilty of this. I have a beagle that I love to death and whenever I see her do something cute/funny/stupid I'll snap a pic with my phone and post it on Facebook with a clever caption. Although I only do this maybe once a week (she's afraid of the shutter sound my phone's camera makes, so it's hard to get pictures) so I don't feel all that bad about it, at least compared to the parents who do this daily.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
One of the big problems these days is the lack of discipline (I include my own kids as well), in Norway and now in NZ you are not allowed to discipline your children in the traditional manor, a simple wack on the bum worked wonders for me but as a parent these days that's simply not allowed. Taking toys away from kids or stopping TV time really doesn't work.

I'm on the fence with that one. I'm not against a spank when it's well deserved, but I'm not particularly for it either. I don't have any kids yet, but when I do I don't think I'll ever lay a hand on them. My parents raised me with positive reinforcement (I was rewarded for good grades and doing chores) and I turned out just fine. I never got into smoking or drugs, and I never rolled with a bad crowd. I just generally stayed out of trouble (I got detention once for not doing my homework  ).

I guess it depends if you want to raise your child to fear the punishment, or to fear losing the rewards from doing good. They're probably both just as effective.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 15):
Yeah I was spoiled by my grandparents when I was little. But not from my folks. They were stern, stern but fair!

Same here. I'm an only-child so my parents worked hard to make sure I didn't become a spoiled brat like so many only-children do.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6940 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

I just had about 7 or 8 friends give birth recently. .....either planned or otherwise  

My feed has been FLOODED with photos....I don't give a crap about those. I wanna look at my airplane photos again   


In Japan, it's exactly the opposite---in order to keep the whole "humbling" tradition up, people often intentionally "degrade" their kids (This is my lowly daughter Mika or This is my very base, boring, or what have you son Toru) but everyone seems to know that parents hold their kids in high regard here. Kids don't seem insulted and equally are humble when introducing themselves to people. It's often a bit shocking for those not familiar with Japan.



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 16):
I got detention once for not doing my homework

They don't even have detentions in Norwegian schools, there really is no discipline here. Kids in this country especially teenagers and young adults have absolutely no respect for adults.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4842 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

The kid thing. This is what adult couples usually talk about when they get together. If you are not married and don't have a kid or two you end up feeling kind of left out. That's just the way it goes.

My crazy sister is like that. She was a helicopter mom with her daughter. Whenever they went anywhere, even shopping the kid had to have every toy she owned in the car (so she could pick and choose what she wants) She couldn't let her kid out of her sight for even a minute until she grew enough to go to school.

Her daughter somehow graduated college and is now working at a Hooters. Momma recommended it because "You can meet some nice rich men in there..." Yeah, right.

But my sister & husband pride themselves on the fact that "We've never said no to our daughter, and that's something to be proud of!". Over the years I haven't spoken to them much because the conversation always turns to their daughter (now 27) and how great she is!

And Facebook! I tried it for awhile but eventually got off of it. I found it to be a huge time hole. Especially my sister's page.
"Here is a photo of our daughter getting on the plane to London with her girlfriends". Here is a photo of our daughter laying down in a river with a wedding dress on, it's SO CUTE isn't it? She wanted to do that photo so we made it happen for her". You can almost hear the squeals of delight out of them.

And finally when daughter got a tramp stamp my sister photographed it and put it on Facebook. The stamp reads "It doesn't get any better than this!".

I had to explain to my sister what a tramp stamp is.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15452 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 19):
And finally when daughter got a tramp stamp my sister photographed it and put it on Facebook. The stamp reads "It doesn't get any better than this!".

That's true. Check that thing out in twenty years.



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User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3219 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 19):
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 20):

A tramp stamp? Embarrassing to show my ignorance, but I'm assuming ya'll mean a tatoo? If so, I think it's a GREAT term and plan on permanently inserting it in my personal vocabulary. I sure saw enough poorly-decorated girls at a Karaoke Bar in the 'big city' last night! regards...jack



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15452 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 21):
A tramp stamp? Embarrassing to show my ignorance, but I'm assuming ya'll mean a tatoo?

Not just a tattoo, but specifically one on the lower back.



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User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3219 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 22):

Thank you, BMI727; I have learned something. A couple of girls last night were wearing low-back garments displaying such (along with a few other samples of bad-taste art on their arms, shoulders, etc).

As you suggest, I wonder if they'll be 'proud' of their skin canvass when they get middle-age and older? regards...jack



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User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1922 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
First off, let me say I don't have any kids myself

I stopped reading right about.... there.

Basically anything that follows comes from a perspective so detached from that of a parent that it really is a fairly pointless conversation.

My opinion of course.


User currently offlinePITingres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1083 posts, RR: 13
Reply 25, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 16):
I'm not against a spank when it's well deserved, but I'm not particularly for it either. I don't have any kids yet, but when I do I don't think I'll ever lay a hand on them.

Keep an open mind, and remember that raising kids is a very very individual thing depending on the child. We had four. One would have curled up and wasted away if we had ever spanked him. One had to be swatted just to get his attention, never mind doing what he was supposed to. The other two were somewhere in the middle. A rap on the knuckles with a wooden spoon can do wonders for reinforcement especially with smaller children.

Do what you have to do and don't act in anger.



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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 26, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2766 times:
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Quoting type-rated (Reply 19):
The kid thing. This is what adult couples usually talk about when they get together. If you are not married and don't have a kid or two you end up feeling kind of left out. That's just the way it goes.

   As with anything having stuff in common makes it much easier.

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 24):
stopped reading right about.... there.

Basically anything that follows comes from a perspective so detached from that of a parent that it really is a fairly pointless conversation.

Makes sense.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4842 posts, RR: 19
Reply 27, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

And the reason it's called a "tramp stamp" is there is a perception that girls who have these are perceived as being "easier" than ones that don't.


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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1776 posts, RR: 10
Reply 28, posted (9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 18):
They don't even have detentions in Norwegian schools, there really is no discipline here. Kids in this country especially teenagers and young adults have absolutely no respect for adults.

That's definitely not how I envisioned Norway, or and Scandinavian country, to be. Very interesting, but not in a good way...

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 24):
I stopped reading right about.... there.

Basically anything that follows comes from a perspective so detached from that of a parent that it really is a fairly pointless conversation.

My opinion of course.

It's a rather poor practice to comment on the pointlessness of a thread without having actually read the OP's message. Also just an opinion.

Quoting PITingres (Reply 25):
Keep an open mind, and remember that raising kids is a very very individual thing depending on the child.
Quoting PITingres (Reply 25):
Do what you have to do and don't act in anger.

Seems like sound advice!

Having been raised an only-child in a loving home, and seeing how I turned out alright, I just don't see why I should raise my future children any differently. But like you say, there are always exceptions I guess!

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 23):
A couple of girls last night were wearing low-back garments displaying such (along with a few other samples of bad-taste art on their arms, shoulders, etc).

Horrible tattoos is deserving of its own thread altogether...



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User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1798 posts, RR: 42
Reply 29, posted (9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2608 times:
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I completely agree with all the points the OP makes. Sure it's great that parents are proud of their kids, but stop pushing it in everyones face. Did you ever notice that a lot of these really "intense" happy parents, are usually quite boring people without many excitement going on in their lives? I think that they somehow unknowingly have an urge to let everybody know that they have had an accomplishment in their lives.

By the way, try telling one of those parents that you aren't planning on having kids..

Martijn



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User currently offlineL0VE2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):

It seems to me that a lot of parents are going too far in showing off their kids. I have a cousin with a three year old and they think they can never say no to him and always show him off to everyone. It's nearly impossible to hold any type of conversation with them because it always reverts to something about their kid.

I wonder how many "My child is an honor student in his school" bumper stickers they will have when their little Einstein goes to school!

Unfortunately the society is changing and there's nothing we can do about it.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 31, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 28):
That's definitely not how I envisioned Norway, or and Scandinavian country, to be. Very interesting, but not in a good way...

No it's not good and is going to create terrible problems in the future, especially when Norway's economic bubble pops.


User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 32, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 29):
Did you ever notice that a lot of these really "intense" happy parents, are usually quite boring people without many excitement going on in their lives?

You definitely have never had kids.


The OP makes some points about preferences. However once you have had kids, they do become the center of your life, and they should. Family is extremely important.

Facebook and other tools allow some people to brag, some of it overwhelming, but at the end of the day what we leave on this planet is our legacy, and for some it may be footprints. for others it will be offspring, and for some others perhaps they will have some contribution to society at large. Children and how they are raised and perform are a cause for excitement and pride amongst parents.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 33, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2515 times:
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Quoting casinterest (Reply 32):
The OP makes some points about preferences. However once you have had kids, they do become the center of your life, and they should. Family is extremely important.

I get that kids become the centre of your life when you have one. The thing is, some people I know have kids and love them like crazy and yet manage to have normal, two-way conversations without bringing the kids into it. Some, however, completely fail at that, and seem to think there is no other topic worthy of conversation. That sucks, and it gets incredibly boring.



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User currently offlinecasinterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 33):
That sucks, and it gets incredibly boring.

Yes, but it happens on all things where folks like to discuss the center of their interests. People are going to want to discuss what is exciting, whether it's their kids or the latest football , or football game.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 35, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2487 times:
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Quoting casinterest (Reply 34):
Yes, but it happens on all things where folks like to discuss the center of their interests. People are going to want to discuss what is exciting, whether it's their kids or the latest football , or football game.

I understand, but I know some extreme examples, but yes - were it another subject but totally discussed ad nauseam and to the exclusion of others. That also can suck.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 62
Reply 36, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2480 times:
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This post is one of the reasons I really try to limit my FB posts about my 1 1/2 year old son; knowing there are people who aren't parents that will roll their eyes and say, "Ugh, AGAIN? Seriously?"

But that's because you're living a different life than we parents are.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
Spot on. Like many other bachelors, I'm fed up with women who can't seem to understand that 100% of life doesn't revolve around their kid.

Thing is, as far as the kid is concerned, 100% of their mom's life DOES revolve around them. This may come as a shock to you but toddlers don't give a shit about mom's desire to go have a girls' night out, etc. Personal time is a luxury as a parent, and if you're going to be a bachelor trying to get with a single mom, you're going to either need to deal with it or stop trying to get with a single mom.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
They don't seem to understand the differences between Adult-time, Kid-time, and Family-time.

Again, it's not the mom that doesn't understand, but the kid. And they don't have to.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 32):
The OP makes some points about preferences. However once you have had kids, they do become the center of your life, and they should. Family is extremely important.

  



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User currently offlinecptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3219 posts, RR: 13
Reply 37, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Quoting L0VE2FLY (Reply 30):

I have seen "My kid beat the hell out of your Honor Student kid" bumper stickers. I know some people who think that's funny; I think it is illustrative of parent's ignorance (or worse).

As I said in my Rep8, I think it's great that parents (if in fact, there are actually parents) who make their kids a super-important part of their lives and are proud of it and want to share their feelings with everyone. I just don't want them to share all that love with ME.



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User currently offlineL0VE2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 37):
I have seen "My kid beat the hell out of your Honor Student kid" bumper stickers. I know some people who think that's funny; I think it is illustrative of parent's ignorance (or worse).

I'm one of those people who think it's funny, here's something much funnier ....


.



Quoting cptkrell (Reply 37):
As I said in my Rep8, I think it's great that parents (if in fact, there are actually parents) who make their kids a super-important part of their lives and are proud of it and want to share their feelings with everyone. I just don't want them to share all that love with ME.

Exactly! There's nothing wrong with parents showing off their smart kid, as long as they don't overdo it or share their child's achievements with total strangers on the road!


User currently offlinecgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

Or how about when the parents ignore their little ones.

Has anyone experienced this:

Child - "mommy
mommymommy, mommy, mommy
mooooooooommmmmmmieeeeee, mommy, mommy, MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMIIIIEEEEE,
mommymommymommy
mommy
mommymommymommymommymommy
mooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
mommy"

After about 10 minutes of this mother quietly answers "yes, dear?"

Once I wanted to scream at the mother "are you deaf? your child is CALLING YOU!!!!!"



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6482 posts, RR: 3
Reply 40, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

As a father of three kids, I don't find myself incomplete disagreement with the OP. However, as other people have said, people have their own lives to live and you have to get on with it.

Quoting iowaman (Thread starter):
When they got married a couple months ago they didn't allow anyone to bring any of their kids to the wedding reception, as the didn't want the attention on any child but their own who was there.

This is where you lose. Their wedding, their rules, their way.



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User currently offlinehawaii12 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

tks for the rant. it definately brought me back...

we should all keep in mind that for everything that bothers us, there is a root cause. you should ask yourself what it is about a child getting toys or parents incessantly talking of their children that bothers you.

perhaps you are actually envious that these children receive soo much attention from their parents... attention that you did not receive from your step father (as per your rant). perhaps you are resentful to your stepfather for locking you in the car for 4 hours as opposed to dealing with you in a less severe / more loving way. Perhaps you are resentful towards these children because their parents do not lock them in a car for 4 hours. whatever the reason is, you need to let it go. address the issues with those involved and try to let it go.

resentments are not a good thing to hold with you. if we let them build up, they eventually start dictating our actions.

the way a parent raises their children has nothing to do with you. if they want to have their kid run their lives, that is their decision. if they have levels of entitlement wherethey think we all care where they ate or what their kid looks like every other hour, that is their issue. Be grateful you are not that entitled.

we have enough to worry about.. physical and emotional health of ourselves and family, job and financial secirity, treating our loved ones with love and respect, schooling, etc. But keeping these resentments bottled up impede us from recognizing actual priorities. We start making emotional decisions as opposed to decisions based on reason.

i used to carry a lot of resentment around... parents, exwife, wife, friends, etc. i found myself becoming a very negative person, focusing on what i do not have instead of what i do have. as a result, i picked up some bad habits. luckily, i am a fortunate one in that i did not let those bad habits get me in too too much trouble... i found a solution that works for me. part of that solution is working on letting old resentments go, doing service for others, and working on my faith {some may be able to pick up on what i am putting down  }.

anyway, do not take anything i said personally. you provided a little insight via your rant and i tried offer a solution. take out of it what you like, ignore the rest. ignore all, thats cool too.

but if you remember one word out of all of this, its GRATITUDE!!!

good luck


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 42, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Quoting cgnnrw (Reply 39):
Once I wanted to scream at the mother "are you deaf? your child is CALLING YOU!!!!!"

The kid (if it's anything like one of mine) probably didn't have anything to say and she was immune to it's calls.

Some parents love talking about there kids, some don't but I don't find it as annoying as sports fans who can't talk about anything other than what there favourite sports team is doing. Sports fans can be just as one eyed and annoying as parents.


User currently offlinecgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 43, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 42):
The kid (if it's anything like one of mine) probably didn't have anything to say and she was immune to it's calls.

Which in my opinion makes it worse. Where can I get hold of such a vaccine?

However, I onced experienced the complete opposite as well. I was at a social event and I ran into a very distance acquaintance and politely asked (at least I thought I was being polite) how their little daughter was doing. It had been about two years or so since I saw her and made a comment along the lines "she must be getting bigger everyday". The mother's response ran along the lines of "what business is it of yours?".



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