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TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014  
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, Will Not Seek Reelection In 2014

Quote:
Texas Governor Rick Perry (R) announced Monday that he will not seek reelection in 2014.

"The time has come to pass on the mantle of leadership," Perry said of his decision.



First elected as the Lone Star State's lieutenant governor in 1998, Perry became governor in 2000 after then-governor George W. Bush resigned to become U.S. president. He was reelected in 2002, 2006 and 2010. He unsuccessfully ran for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, leaving the race ahead of the South Carolina primary.


Of course he's not saying anything about 2016. Yet.


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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

I believe he will run in '16. Unlike '12 where he jumped in prepared he is going to spend a lot of time studying and visiting foreign countries. I'd also look for him to work hard for GOP candidates around the country, building up IOUs.

User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7257 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

Ah Rick Perry, despite my disagreements with him, he always makes me smile when I see him. He completely embodies what I think a stereotypical Texan/cowboy looks like  
Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
Of course he's not saying anything about 2016. Yet.

Hopefully he'll quietly fade away. A lot of the country had a laugh at him in 2012 but I believe most Texans like him. Leave peacefully, volunteer/raise money for a good cause, and avoid losing in 2016. I don't see him doing any better than he did in 2012



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Unlike '12 where he jumped in prepared he is going to spend a lot of time studying and visiting foreign countries.

I don't think Perry can change his stripes; if he hasn't learned anything by now, he's not going to learn much by the next election. That said, hopefully he and Bachmann run just for the comedic value.



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User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2667 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
Hopefully he'll quietly fade away.

I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:
1. He'll continue to boast about his record as governor without having to continue to carry the burden of being the governor.
2. He appeals to Tea Party folks which are becoming the mainstream of the GOP.
3. Um...let's see...um...I can't remember...oops.



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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:

I'm not quite sure what you meant to say with that, but:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
2. He appeals to Tea Party folks which are becoming the mainstream of the GOP.

I disagree. The Tea Party started as something meaningful and could have been great. But it was Shanghaid by the likes of the unscrupulous and woefully ill-informed Michelle Bachmann and shot out into orbit to where it now represents more of an extreme faction of the Republican Party, its name tarnished to middle of the road people such as myself. They will surely put some candidates into office, but they lost a lot of the ground in 2012 that they won in 2010 and are going to ultimately prove divisive to a Republican Party that wants to win elections. As such they will either be shut down (see Michelle Bachmann's announcement not to seek reelection), or they will have to form their own party, a la the Green Party branching off from the Democratic Party (parties).

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
I don't think Perry can change his stripes; if he hasn't learned anything by now, he's not going to learn much by the next election.

This. His campaign was a disaster. His stance on same-sex marriage could be a liability in a post-DOMA reality, but he's been smart enough about it to date and has his toe slightly bent on the line, not taking the more vocal approach of his party mates such as Mike Huckabee. He's also shown a willingness to flip-flop and wobble with the best of them on issues pertaining to religion, evolution, and the role of government. So who knows what his next move could be.

[Edited 2013-07-08 17:26:39]

User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2408 times:
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I heard that the Highway Safety Commission is looking for more crash test dummies. Perhaps that could be his new career.

User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2667 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 5):
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:

I'm not quite sure what you meant to say with that, but:

Fade...typo.



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 6):
I heard that the Highway Safety Commission is looking for more crash test dummies. Perhaps that could be his new career

No, actually they are going to use death row prisoners to do 2 things at once. Not only do they have living beings to get accurate information from but they can clean out death row a lot easier than the hassles with drugs they use to execute. (HUMOR ! - NOT A REAL IDEA)
Problem is now the Republicans in TX are likely to put up a even bigger joker than Perry, more radical conservative, TEA Party type. I feel sorry for anyone not rich in Texas.


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
Ah Rick Perry, despite my disagreements with him, he always makes me smile when I see him. He completely embodies what I think a stereotypical Texan/cowboy looks like

I could not agree more, he belongs on the range with cattle, not espousing anything political. He was funny, but unfortunately he made himself look dumb while being funny. I remember a guy nicknamed dubya that was the same, he was funny and seemingly sincere, but we all saw what that got us. Please Rick, ride off into the sunset with your millions, just like the other guy and all the other politicians do. We ought to be able to sue politicians for malfeasance while in office. They screw us over, collect millions, and we are left holding the bag. They do harm, quite the opposite of the saying" First, do no harm"



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 8):
Problem is now the Republicans in TX are likely to put up a even bigger joker than Perry, more radical conservative, TEA Party type. I feel sorry for anyone not rich in Texas.

I'm not so sure--demographics in TX are quickly shifting away from the Republicans. They can be anti-minority now, and maybe one more election, but the one after that it'll mean they have to be anti-white . TX is really a microcosm of the US, and how the R party insists on doubling down on ideals put them on the fast track to irrelevance.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8044 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 5):
The Tea Party started as something meaningful and could have been great.

The Tea Party was started because right wing conservatives were too liberal.

Actually, all I ever saw of them was a group of folks wrapped in the flag demanding huge tax cuts - with no care to the reifications.

I also saw that the traditional, responsible Republicans became very afraid of the TP'ers. So all that they represent these days is the politics of fear - a great way to run a political party, or country.

Perry, as odd as it sounds, offers an option that could move to the middle - if the TP doesn't cut him down.


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

http://www.maps.com/ref_map.aspx?pid=11388


This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.



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User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2667 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):
This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.

These were other times, unfortunately. Back then almost the entire South was aligned with Democrats. After Johnson, the South broke ranks and slowly became the GOP stronghold it is now. Unfortunately, the problem with said move is that the people don't vote for the best candidate, they vote along party lines, even if the other candidate is far better.

With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7257 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 13):
With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards? Obviously there are some big issues that keep them voting Democrat, but who knows what we'll see with the political landscape changing.

Naturally, I believe the parties will morph to stay near 50-50%. I do not recall a time in history when a party kept winning decade after decade. Maybe there will be a new party, but I doubt the Democrats will win 2016, 2020, and beyond. Something will give. No doubt the changing demographics of the US will have a big effect



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User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2667 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards?

I can speak based on experience with voters back home. With some issues, they're conservative, so if you continue to appeal to their religious beliefs you have a good chunk of them in your side. However, with immigration being an issue lately that can affect them (because just like people stereotype Muslims as terrorists, Hispanics can be thought of as illegal immigrants), the GOP better do a good job in trying to keep them on their side. When it comes to race, I like to think that Hispanics will choose race of religion any day.

And I only projected Texas as losing GOP influence due to precisely this scenario: the immigration issue. Not only that, but let's face it: many Americans like Hillary Clinton and again if she were the nominee for the Democrats, I think Texas is no longer a safe Republican state.

Now, to steer this back on topic: I wonder if, with Perry stepping down, Democrats will have a chance to take the Governor's seat, or at least increase their delegation in both the state level and federal level.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7257 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
Now, to steer this back on topic: I wonder if, with Perry stepping down, Democrats will have a chance to take the Governor's seat, or at least increase their delegation in both the state level and federal level.

I read your comment with interest, but I don't think the Democrats are nearly at the level to take TX gov. The current trends suggest that the Democrats may take TX down the line... note the words "suggest," "may," and "down the line." No, I think it'll be a Republican, but what kind of Republican? That is the question to ask



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7126 posts, RR: 87
Reply 17, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):

He was an easy re-election for Texas in 2014. He won't consider POTUS again. I guess he wants to get paid. Maybe lead A&M?

Good riddance?


User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Finally!!! This mad man needs to leave Texas politics!!! Thank all religious/spiritual deities that is will not run for Governor again!!!

I pray to all religious/spiritual deities that this man does not become President of the United States!

I say all of this as a Texas resident!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

He's already been the longest serving governor of Texas.
Rick Perry can be a very entertaining speaker but it's best that he doesn't run in 2016.

I'll never forget his ridiculous commercial from 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1reOJV27w



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 20, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1reOJV27w

The "real gay man's lisp remix" version? Why, didn't youtube have the ebonics version?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
The "real gay man's lisp remix" version? Why, didn't youtube have the ebonics version?

I haven't seen. Post a link if you can find it. I'm sure it's hilarious.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
I haven't seen. Post a link if you can find it. I'm sure it's hilarious.

Naw, that's okay, I don't need to make fun of other's race or sexuality to get my kicks.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):
Naw, that's okay, I don't need to make fun of other's race or sexuality to get my kicks.

Me neither. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 24, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
Me neither. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.

LOL, you don't even realize what you posted, do you?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 25, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 24):
LOL, you don't even realize what you posted, do you?

Yes I do. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.
Does it exist or are you just making $h!t up?



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 26, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Does it exist or are you just making $h!t up?

It was a question. In a serious conversation you posted a link, intentionally it seems now, that wasn't a real campaign video, but one altered by a third party to introduce a lisp. Then you claim that you didn't post it to make fun of anyone. What other reason would there be for you to post it?

I asked why you didn't post an ebonics version, since the most successful humor which takes advantage of stereotypes is done in a self-depricating manner. Otherwise it just comes across as bigoted, especially on the internet.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 27, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
intentionally it seems now, that wasn't a real campaign video, but one altered by a third party to introduce a lisp.

It was to mock Rick Perry.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
I asked why you didn't post an ebonics version,

Which does not exist apparently.


Not being bigoted against anyone. Just taking a few cheap-shots are Rick Perry.



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User currently onlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 28, posted (9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2243 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
They can be anti-minority now, and maybe one more election, but the one after that it'll mean they have to be anti-white .

Amusing irony: the policies of the contemporary Democratic Party have been key in impeding greater progress for traditionally -- mistreated groups, including (in particular) racial minorities.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 18):
Finally!!! This mad man needs to leave Texas politics!!! Thank all religious/spiritual deities that is will not run for Governor again!!!

Goody! Peachy-keen!
!!!
!

"Mad man"? Really?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
He's already been the longest serving governor of Texas.

It is, indeed, high time for Gov. Perry to move on down the road, wherever that may take him, and allow the governorship of Texas (figurehead, though it may be) to be taken on by someone else.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 29, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

Greg Abbott for Governor!

User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 30, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 9):
We ought to be able to sue politicians for malfeasance while in office.

  Can you name a single politician in history who had 100% support? If it were possible to sue politicians, every single politician would face a lawsuit upon leaving office.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 11):
The Tea Party was started because right wing conservatives were too liberal.

No, it was started because the Republican Party is far gone from a real conservative platform. The Tea Party recognized that the GOP was wasting everybody's time and money with their nonsense social agendas, so they formed to try and inject the fiscal conservatism that they so obviously have forgotten about.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 17):
I guess he wants to get paid.

He'll do a speaking tour or two and probably write a book.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
I'll never forget his ridiculous commercial from 2012

If you look closely in the background, you can see his chances of becoming President slowly floating away...

Quoting slider (Reply 29):
Greg Abbott for Governor!

I looked up this Greg Abbott. He seems like another GOP talking head that is more concerned with promoting social beliefs rather than actually fixing problems that a government should be fixing. I was able to gather that from his campaign site alone.

Not my problem though. Texas will get whatever they vote for.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 31, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Thank goodness he will not run for gov again.

The biggest thing I have against George Bush is that he left us with Rick Perry in the Governor's Mansion.

(Oh how I wish he had not missed that interview with Southwest. He would now be in a cockpit and doing something he really knows how to do well.)

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards? Obviously there are some big issues that keep them voting Democrat, but who knows what we'll see with the political landscape changing.

If the Republican Party can get over calling every person with a dark skin or Hispanic surname an illegal, and support immigration reform that doesn't want to send GrandMa back to Honduras as a criminal - the party could be unstoppable, both in state and national elections. Hispanics in general are much more aligned with the Republican Party family values platform than any Democratic Party platform.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30):
Texas will get whatever they vote for.

We will get whom ever the Republican Party financial backers want - which seems to be Abbott.

Abbott is a bit smarter about his remarks than Perry, but does support even more fringe causes than Perry. He's spent tens of millions of state dollars on fights with the federal government - knowing he would lose - only to support his right-wing extreme credentials.

Abbott being in a wheelchair for about 30 years generates sympathy, and respect for him not letting that stop him from making a solid career.

He is also probably a lot smart than Perry in pure intellectual terms. He also appears to be a smarter politician.

-----------------------------------------------

I don't expect a flop over to the Democratic Party in Texas for another decade.

When I arrived here from Japan in 1986, the state government and many county governments were solidly Democratic Party folks - but more Dixiecrats that true Democrats.

Not quite as strongly Democrat as they were in my youth in Arkansas - but strong.

The last of the Dixiecrats - 90 year old Ralph Hall - is still in the US Congress. From 1980 to 2002 he was elected as a Democrat. In 2004 and since he has been elected as a Republican. He has been in the US Congress continually for 33 years !!!!

The move of state level politicians to the Republican Party started to about 1990.

One of the interesting things is that the 'great job growth' Perry talks about as his accomplishment hasn't really helped most Texans. But it has brought a lot of liberal educated workers from other states like California, New York, Massachuetts into Texas.

Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):


This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.

interesting how the west coast was R back then. Now its a solid D


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
interesting how the west coast was R back then. Now its a solid D

It didn't hurt that the Republican candidate in that election (Nixon) was from California.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 34, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
But it has brought a lot of liberal educated workers from other states like California, New York, Massachuetts into Texas.

   Plus the Latino influx, means curtains for the Republicans in their current format. And then TX quickly turns into CA 
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.

I think all of the big cities are pretty solidly blue. Houston even has a lesbian mayor--the first ever for a major US city, which most non Texans would never believe for a million years, but then again most assume all Texans are like Perry.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 35, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):
I think all of the big cities are pretty solidly blue.

The city cores are Democratic.

But Dallas is a metroplex of 6.4 million, and the city of Dallas is only 1.2 million of those.

The shift is occuring in the suburbs which 10-15 years ago were solidly Republican. It is slow, but it is occuring.


User currently offlinetexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4264 posts, RR: 52
Reply 36, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 29):
Greg Abbott for Governor!

Abbott will be the GOP nominee. And he will likely--and unfortunately--win. In reality, who can the Democrats run that stands a chance? Julian Castro? That'd be great, but I see him more as a candidate for Senate. Wendy Davis? She brought a lot of life to the party, but I don't know that she's ready to step up to a bigger stage. Lupe Valdez? That would be a hoot! I'd love it! But it ain't happening. And I cannot think of a single other Democratic candidate who has enough name recognition or fundraising ability to take the state.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 35):
The city cores are Democratic.

But Dallas is a metroplex of 6.4 million, and the city of Dallas is only 1.2 million of those.

The shift is occuring in the suburbs which 10-15 years ago were solidly Republican. It is slow, but it is occuring.

True. Dallas County is heavily Democratic. The Democratic Socialist Republic of Austin (Travis County) speaks for itself   San Antonio (Bexar) leans Democratic. Houston (Harris) is basically a toss up. Tarrant, Collin, Denton, Galveston, Fort Bend, Bell, etc are all conservative--with Collin, Denton, and Galveston each voting at least 62.8% for Romney in 2012. It will be a long haul for Dems in the suburbs and exurbs.

In any case, I'm glad Perry will finally exit the scene.

Texan



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User currently offlineual777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1519 posts, RR: 5
Reply 37, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 13):


With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):


Totally wrong.

Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.

Austin is the liberal bastion of Texas. San Antonio remains VERY conservative outside of the center of the city.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):

Plus the Latino influx, means curtains for the Republicans in their current format. And then TX quickly turns into CA

Also incorrect. The thing about Texas is that many hispanic voters are 3-5th generation and they vote conservative.

I for one enjoy living in this state, and I want it to stay the same. I don't give two hoots about social issues like abortion or gay marriage. I DO like my taxes low and little government interference. Why is it the democrats think everyone needs to be like them?

I lived in Cook County for 6 months and will NEVER move back. States like California, Illinois, etc. have put their budgets into shambles with all the crap they pass.

No I'm not rich, but I like the state regulations here, and Texas is just fine as it is.

Finally, there are LEGIONS of conservative non-voters who don't vote simply because the state is safe with Perry in office.

The republican party does poorly with hispanic voters simply because they do not engage them. In the past this was ok, because they didn't need to. However, if they make the effort, they can perform much better in elections.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 38, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
If the Republican Party can get over calling every person with a dark skin or Hispanic surname an illegal

Really? Can you please show us when this was done?

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
When I arrived here from Japan in 1986, the state government and many county governments were solidly Democratic Party folks - but more Dixiecrats that true Democrats.

The Dixiecrats were the true Democrats from the beginning.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
He has been in the US Congress continually for 33 years !!!!

That's nothing. Congressman John Dingell has been in Congress for 57 years.

Quoting texan (Reply 36):
In reality, who can the Democrats run that stands a chance?

Sheila Jackson Lee....



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User currently offlineual777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1519 posts, RR: 5
Reply 39, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 38):

Sheila Jackson Lee....

Doesn't stand a chance. The state will go Republican again barring something outrageous.



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User currently offlinecharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 40, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Why do so many A-netters believe Texas and the states in general would better off with democrat rule??? There seems to be a llove fest for dems and a wish that republicans should be more like democrats..it we seem to have a colossal failure in the white house now so why the love?? free stuff? kindness to terrorists? hatred of Christians? haterd of guns and gun owners? Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

User currently offlineairportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 41, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):

Nicely said



hit it and quit it
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 42, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Tolerance must be the new buzzword for the GOP. You're not the first to frame opposing viewpoints not as a difference of opinion, but simply painting everyone else as intolerant. Creative use of the English language, I'll give you that much. Are you going to advocate tossing all of the Democratic senators into prison for allowing Obama to fix the last election, too?   



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 43, posted (9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2033 times:

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
The thing about Texas is that many hispanic voters are 3-5th generation and they vote conservative.
Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
The republican party does poorly with hispanic voters simply because they do not engage them. In the past this was ok, because they didn't need to. However, if they make the effort, they can perform much better in elections.

That's the narrative the Republicans have chosen to tell themselves. "The Latinos just didn't know we were here!" I think reality is showing them otherwise--it's far more complex.

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
I for one enjoy living in this state, and I want it to stay the same

I think most Texans want that. In fact if TX just dropped the silly social stuff, the combination with minimal government and relatively free markets would continue to be intoxicating, drawing in people from all over the world. Then those people tend to want different things than the locals before them, and they vote accordingly, changing the recipe that made TX so successful in the first place.

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Someone needs a wambulance.

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
hatred of Christians?

Tough being the object instead of monopolising the source of hatred huh?  



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 44, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Why do so many A-netters believe Texas and the states in general would better off with democrat rule??? There seems to be a llove fest for dems and a wish that republicans should be more like democrats..it we seem to have a colossal failure in the white house now so why the love?? free stuff? kindness to terrorists? hatred of Christians? haterd of guns and gun owners? Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Terrible spelling and grammar aside...you've completely lost the scope of this thread. This isn't a discussion about Republicans at a federal level, but rather Republicans strictly in the state of Texas, which seems to harbour one of the more far-right governors in the party in Rick Perry.

But since you brought it up: Where is this "free stuff", "kindness to terrorists", and "hatred of Christians"? I need to see it before I accept any accusations of the left being less tolerant (a laughable assessment given the Republicans propensity to want to enter themselves into people's bedrooms...).

Quoting Superfly (Reply 38):
Really? Can you please show us when this was done?

A bit of an exaggeration, but I think the Republicans over in Arizona might fit that bill.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 45, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 44):
A bit of an exaggeration, but I think the Republicans over in Arizona might fit that bill.

Hmmm, I read the 10 page law and didn't see anything close to what rfields5421 implied.
Have you?

Quoting ual777 (Reply 39):
Doesn't stand a chance. The state will go Republican again barring something outrageous.

But she is SO well informed and intelligent.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMyJQL49HE



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 46, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30):
Can you name a single politician in history who had 100% support? If it were possible to sue politicians, every single politician would face a lawsuit upon leaving office.

It is the principle of accountability, they have none, or have you not noticed? I and millions more have. In R.I. our esteemed leaders just cost us a cool 100 million for an agreement they cooked up with Curt Shilling to start a game company. They issued Moral Obligation Bonds. Do you understand the word moral? It is a travesty to use the word when it comes to Politicians and their schemes. We should be able to sue our legislature for that fiasco, bankrupt them all. Maybe then we would have accountability.   



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 47, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 46):
We should be able to sue our legislature for that fiasco, bankrupt them all. Maybe then we would have accountability.

   If we sue all the politicians into bankruptcy, who would replace them?! Nobody in their right mind would run for any office. Even those who are "moral" wouldn't want to run because they know if they screw up at all they'll lose their livelihood.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8505 posts, RR: 10
Reply 48, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 47):
If we sue all the politicians into bankruptcy, who would replace them?! Nobody in their right mind would run for any office. Even those who are "moral" wouldn't want to run because they know if they screw up at all they'll lose their livelihood.

Gee! Maybe someone honest would run. It is still a paying job after all. You know the principle, earn your pay, not enrich yourself while claiming to have moral reasons for running for office. What do the politicians like to call it? A noble calling, a patriotic thing to do. A public servant. Sure it is.   

[Edited 2013-07-10 20:14:39]


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User currently onlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 49, posted (9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1894 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 43):
I think most Texans want that. In fact if TX just dropped the silly social stuff, the combination with minimal government and relatively free markets would continue to be intoxicating, drawing in people from all over the world. Then those people tend to want different things than the locals before them, and they vote accordingly, changing the recipe that made TX so successful in the first place.

This. Nutshell.



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6658 posts, RR: 35
Reply 50, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Quoting texan (Reply 36):
Abbott will be the GOP nominee. And he will likely--and unfortunately--win.

I don't agree. I thinnk his advocacy for Texans, particularly with fighting the EPA, unfunded mandates, Obamacare, 2nd Amendment protections, etc, etc, all show a demonstrated record of taking the stand of liberty, of individual and property rights, and not that are all politically driven.

Abbott's got a very calm demeanor. He's not the 'typical' blowhard yee-haw Texas pol, as I've seen. And he's humble too. The wheelchair thing is incidental, but I really think he's a great stabilizing, non-controversial guy who would be a terrific steward of a state whose economic policies are fundamentally sound.

The Gov position in TX isn't a strong position anyhow from an executive standpoint.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 51, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting slider (Reply 50):
The Gov position in TX isn't a strong position anyhow from an executive standpoint.

True.

The Gov doesn't even sign death warrants like most state governors.

Nor does he/she have the power to commute death sentences to life in prison. He can only issue a complete pardon.


User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

Quoting texan (Reply 36):
Quoting slider (Reply 29):
Greg Abbott for Governor!

Abbott will be the GOP nominee. And he will likely--and unfortunately--win. In reality, who can the Democrats run that stands a chance?

I would honestly rather have Perry as Emperor of the World than Abbott for any major public office...!

I think Bill White should run again for the Democrats, or even Anise Parker! They did outstanding things for Houston and would do even better things for Texas. For the Republican side, Kay Bailey Hutchison all the way!

[Edited 2013-07-11 20:58:02]


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 53, posted (9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 52):
For the Republican side, Kay Bailey Hutchison all the way!

She would get my vote.

Wait, she DID get my vote for Governor in 2010.


User currently onlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 54, posted (9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Sen. Hutchison is a fair-minded and deliberative person. She speaks her mind, and defends her positions rationally. I believe she would be a fine governor of the state.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 55, posted (9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Will Kinky Freidmann give it another run?


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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 56, posted (9 months 1 week ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
Why, didn't youtube have the ebonics version?

Because it would be considered "racist". Remember the golden rule... they CAN we CAN'T!



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 57, posted (9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 52):

I think Bill White should run again for the Democrats, or even Anise Parker!

Anise would be great. Plus UA would sh!t a brick. 



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 58, posted (9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 56):
Remember the golden rule... they CAN we CAN'T!

I didn't know you were gay.
The ad was not meant to be an insult to gays. It was mocking Rick Perry's foolish anti-gay commercial from last year.



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 59, posted (9 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 58):
I didn't know you were gay.

Yes, I am. I've mentioned it here a few times.

But I am real low key kinda guy. Not too many people ever even ask. But it's hard to offend me actually. I'm much better at offending others than they are of offending me.

I feel that everyone doesn't need to know everything about me. For the most part it's none of their business. Secondly if someone asks, I'll tell them.

My formal opinion of Perry is that he may have done well for Texas, but I certainly wouldn't want him in the White House.
It would definitely be a case of "My religion is better than your religion" and we DEFINITELY don't need that! Too many people use religion to control how others act. And that's just wrong.

[Edited 2013-07-13 15:29:39]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 60, posted (9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 59):
it's hard to offend me actually.

Yet I did.  
Quoting type-rated (Reply 59):
It would definitely be a case of "My religion is better than your religion"

When did he do that? All I've heard him say is that America is a Christian nation which has been a fact from day one. There are community organizers that like to think the opposite.



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 61, posted (9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 60):
Quoting type-rated (Reply 59):
it's hard to offend me actually.

Yet I did.

No you didn't. In fact I can't even find anything in this thread that would offend me.   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 60):
Quoting type-rated (Reply 59):
It would definitely be a case of "My religion is better than your religion"

When did he do that? All I've heard him say is that America is a Christian nation which has been a fact from day one. There are community organizers that like to think the opposite.

Oh no? He partook in a rally here in Houston right before he ran for President that excluded non christians, gays, jews, etc. There was a big uproar about it. The guy is a part time religious zealot. For tricky Rick religion is fine, as long as it is what he believes.

In many ways, Rick Perry is a cheap imitation of George Bush.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 62, posted (9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 61):
No you didn't. In fact I can't even find anything in this thread that would offend me.

Good. So many people get so offended over anything these days.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 61):
Oh no? He partook in a rally here in Houston right before he ran for President that excluded non christians, gays, jews, etc. There was a big uproar about it. The guy is a part time religious zealot. For tricky Rick religion is fine, as long as it is what he believes.

Was this “The Response” rally?
If so, I just did a little fact checking. The rally was opened to people of all religious backgrounds but had a goal of promoting Christianity. Regardless, it's not something a Presidential candidate should be involved with.

http://www.pfaw.org/press-releases/2...onvert-non-christians-pfaw-urges-g


Luckily he has been fair in dealing with other religious beliefs in politics.




Quoting type-rated (Reply 61):
In many ways, Rick Perry is a cheap imitation of George Bush.

Nah, Rick Perry is a better speaker than George W Bush and more entertaining. It's pretty hard to be any worse than George W. Bush.
Only Obama can do that.   



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User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
I for one enjoy living in this state, and I want it to stay the same. I don't give two hoots about social issues like abortion or gay marriage. I DO like my taxes low and little government interference.

Your property tax rates make up for not having a state income tax.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 43):
In fact if TX just dropped the silly social stuff, the combination with minimal government and relatively free markets would continue to be intoxicating, drawing in people from all over the world.

Right because violent weather is no big deal and fortress hubs give you the chance to spend all the money you saved on lower taxes, unless the property taxes got it first. It could work for California, though.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 43):
Tough being the object instead of monopolising the source of hatred huh?

That is an overt generalization. I want nothing to do with Fred Phelps, but haters try to make every Christian responsible for that wack job. I never tried to make every Democrat responsible for either Mayor Daley, nor this other famous Democrat from Chicago.
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 44):
A bit of an exaggeration, but I think the Republicans over in Arizona might fit that bill.

You didn't bother to make a definitive connection, only a presumption that all Republicans are racist.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16927 posts, RR: 48
Reply 64, posted (9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 63):
I want nothing to do with Fred Phelps, but haters try to make every Christian responsible for that wack job.

I disagree, because every time some Muslim does something awful, the first thing we here is "where are all the Muslims protesting this recent event?" It's only fair that we treat all religions the same.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 63):
Right because violent weather is no big deal and fortress hubs give you the chance to spend all the money you saved on lower taxes

Violent weather? Unless you're in Galveston it's not much of an issue, certainly much less than FL, where I experienced twice as many hurricanes that hit much more directly. And fortress hubs? Dallas and Houston both have two airlines hubbing plus NK.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 65, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 63):
I never tried to make every Democrat responsible for either Mayor Daley, nor this other famous Democrat from Chicago.

What a coincidence. I was watching a documentary on John Wayne Gacy last night. I remember when he was caught and being scared to walk home from school alone. We were living near Chicago when that happened.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 64):
Violent weather? Unless you're in Galveston it's not much of an issue,

Tornadoes? Didn't a tornado destroy the practice dome for the Dallas Cowboys? Texas has some deadly tornadoes so I'd consider that "violent weather".



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 66, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 65):
Didn't a tornado destroy the practice dome for the Dallas Cowboys?

No.

That was a ordinary every day thunderstorm gust front. Not even unusually violent for May in the DFW area. I lost 70 feet of fence in my back yard a couple years ago from 80 mph winds..

I really fail to see what weather has to do with Rick Perry, except he has been very good in disaster planning, and working with getting help to victims of disasters.

Remember - I REALLY don't like the guy personally, not as governor.

However, in that one area, he has done an excellent job.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 67, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has announced a press conference for a "major" announcement at 1 pm CDT today.

Anyone want to make a bet it is for anything except announcing his run for Governor?


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 68, posted (9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 67):
Abbott

Oh the poor guy. I typed his last name into Google to look at any news stories on this, and Google's first suggestion was "Abbott and Costello".   



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 69, posted (9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 66):
I really fail to see what weather has to do with Rick Perry, except he has been very good in disaster planning, and working with getting help to victims of disasters.

Well isn't that the governor's job?   



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 70, posted (9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 67):
at 1 pm CDT today.

Pushed back to 2 pm CDT


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 71, posted (9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 62):
Good. So many people get so offended over anything these days.

You most certainly got that right! It's now like kindergarten. Oh Teacher! Look what Johnny said!!! He said a bad word! People it seems no longer take things they hear at face value. They are always "filtering" what they hear to read between the lines and to pick up on alternate connotations.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 62):
Nah, Rick Perry is a better speaker than George W Bush and more entertaining. It's pretty hard to be any worse than George W. Bush.

I'm afraid I'll have to agree with you on this count. His nickname in Texas is "Tricky Rick" and there is a reason for it. My main worry is that he doesn't know how to separate politics from religion.

What I would love to see Rick Perry do is perform "The Sidestep" from "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" in the state capital building. Now THAT would be a hoot!

Now Kinky Freidmann is kind of a novelty candidate. He'd never win here, but watch what you wish for. In a few cases the novelty candidate has one the election in other places. But good ole' Kinky does give the media something to write about!



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 72, posted (9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

Abbott is running for Governor

Quote:
Attorney General Abbott announces run for Texas governor

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott declared his candidacy for governor on a sunny Sunday afternoon
http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/At...n-gubernatorial-run-215443131.html


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 73, posted (9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 71):
It's now like kindergarten. Oh Teacher! Look what Johnny said!!! He said a bad word! People it seems no longer take things they hear at face value. They are always "filtering" what they hear to read between the lines and to pick up on alternate connotations.

You're spot on!
Sad but so true.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 71):
My main worry is that he doesn't know how to separate politics from religion.

No need to worry. He isn't going to any other elected office.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 71):
What I would love to see Rick Perry do is perform "The Sidestep" from "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" in the state capital building. Now THAT would be a hoot!

That would be awesome!
I need to to pull out my CED VideoDisc of that movie and watch it again.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 71):
Now Kinky Freidmann is kind of a novelty candidate. He'd never win here, but watch what you wish for. In a few cases the novelty candidate has one the election in other places. But good ole' Kinky does give the media something to write about!

I like Kinky!  



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User currently onlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 74, posted (9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1296 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 63):
Your property tax rates make up for not having a state income tax.

Not even close!

Plus, you can always choose to live in a more modest home and, thus, reduce your property taxes and save the income.

None of which is to say that our property taxes are not higher than they should be. But if I still had to file an FTB540 for our family, the California income tax would be double the (ridiculous) sum I pay in property tax... and my property taxes in California were hardly trivial sums, either.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 65):
Didn't a tornado destroy the practice dome for the Dallas Cowboys?

Just (as noted above) a wind gust associated with a storm front.... coupled with improperly-assembled structure!



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