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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2451 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2549 times:

A GOP Senator of South Carolina proposes that the United States boycotts the XXII Olympic Winter games being held in Sochi, Russia, if Russia grants asylum to Edward Snowden.

Quote:
"I love the Olympics, but I hate what the Russian government is doing throughout the world," Graham told NBC. "If they give asylum to a person who I believe has committed treason against the United States, that's taking it to a new level."

Ok, seriously... why would anyone want to boycott the Olympics? Didn't the world learn its lesson from 1980 and 1984? It is extremely childish to do so and all it accomplishes is stripping the privilege of highly trained athletes to become the pride of a nation to compete on the world stage and who have deserved the honor to wave their nations flag in the spirit of competition and fun.

I know a boycott will most likely won't happen, but the proposal to do so, by anyone for any reason, is just outlandish.




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User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13754 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
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Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter):
I know a boycott will most likely won't happen, but the proposal to do so, by anyone for any reason, is just outlandish.

Erm, we disagree with your assessment. Anything can happen.

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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):

Of course anything can happen. But Speaker of the House Boehner and the USOC have already spoken against it.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

So will Obama do what Jimmy Carter did? What does Senator Grahmnesty expect to accomplish?


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User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2764 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Even if those proposing the boycott don't actually want a boycott, and just want their bluster to be heard, that's a big diplomatic mistake. For all we know Russia has no interest in granting asylum to the 29-year-old hypocritical ignorant pissant, but at the same time doesn't want to summarily hand him over to us for fear of looking like the U.S.'s lackey on the world stage. I think the Obama administration is actually doing the right thing (I haven't said that once before and don't expect me to ever say it again) by playing this one quietly. Let Russia hand him over of their own accord; let Russia let the world see it happen that way.


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User currently offlinePvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Hah what a pathetic hypocrite, through the history United States has helped people who have committed treason or other crimes against countries like China, Russia/Soviet Union, Cuba etc without them boycotting Olympics held in the US. So why should US boycott Olympics in Russia either even if they give Snowden asylum (which won't happen as since death of Soviet Union Russia has been ruled by bunch of greedy thugs with no good principles whatsoever).


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13200 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

I believe the Winter Games in Sochi, Russia has a good chance of being a disaster. That might be a better reason for the USA team to not attend rather than as revenge for Russia's temporary asylum of Snowden. They may not have enough snow and cold weather to properly conduct some events. There has been obscene corruption involved with prep for them. There will not be enough facilities for tourists and I suspect that bribery will be necessary to get anything done.

User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2764 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Well... no different than Salt Lake City that way, eh?


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6937 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

For an athlete the Olympics are every 4 years, it could be held in the middle of a war they would go. This isn't the 80's anymore, have politicians even the power to prevent them to go ?

All I see is another politician making a bigger deal out of Snowden than necessary, only "enhancing his profile". If Obama was trying to "buy" him from Russia, the price just went up.



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5744 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 7):
Well... no different than Salt Lake City that way, eh?

Hell, I was going to say that but didn't want to be branded a USA hater.. but you said it for me!!!



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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

It's ONE extreme senator proposing an outlanding idea that has no chance of becoming real. He's just getting his 15 seconds in for the year. The US is not proposing a boycott. I'm sure most read viewers on this site are aware of that.

this thread deserves a "move along folks, nothing to see here" response and it's only purpose is to fuel rabid responses from the anti US contingent on Anet.

Anyhoo, I believe it also had a bit more to do than the Snowden issue. The Syrian situation,, the deteriorating relations between the US and Russia among a few other things. But I loved it today when I was reading a tweet from a gay activist who basically said something to the effect of "darn, and i was hoping Graham was actually coming out in support of gay rights vis a vis Russia's position on gay rights" lol


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter):
Ok, seriously... why would anyone want to boycott the Olympics? Didn't the world learn its lesson from 1980 and 1984? It is extremely childish to do so and all it accomplishes is stripping the privilege of highly trained athletes to become the pride of a nation to compete on the world stage and who have deserved the honor to wave their nations flag in the spirit of competition and fun.

Haven't you got the memo, pretty much all of the people in congress are children who happen to look like old men .



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User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week ago) and read 2183 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
What does Senator Grahmnesty expect to accomplish?

He probably wants to distract from his abysmal record and draw attention away from the notion that he'll probably face a primary opponent. So instead of, you know, doing his job, the POS will grandstand pointlessly.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter):
A GOP Senator of South Carolina proposes that the United States boycotts the XXII Olympic Winter games being held in Sochi, Russia, if Russia grants asylum to Edward Snowden.

Until this story I'd forgotten that there were any 2014 Olympics in Sochi.

Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter):
It is extremely childish to do so and all it accomplishes is stripping the privilege of highly trained athletes to become the pride of a nation

Pride of the nation? Shouldn't the nation be doing better things? It gives me absolutely no pride as an American that Michael Phelps can swim fast because the closest I've gotten to that feat was getting caught in a rain storm.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
So will Obama do what Jimmy Carter did?

Nobody should ever do what Jimmy Carter did.

Quoting Pvjin (Reply 5):

Hah what a pathetic hypocrite, through the history United States has helped people who have committed treason or other crimes against countries like China, Russia/Soviet Union, Cuba etc without them boycotting Olympics held in the US.

They're more than welcome to boycott if they want. I doubt anyone would miss the nine year old gymnasts, although then the giant Soviet she-monsters would have nothing nothing to do other than admire their schlongs.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Boycotting one of the only events the world has in which we truly come together and try to put politics aside is a really shitty thing to do. It doesn't punish the host, it punishes everybody. Probably won't happen, but it's ridiculous even to suggest it, particularly over an issue like this.


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User currently offlineblrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

During the cold war, weren't there spies in each other's countries doing the same thing? And weren't there quite a few defectors from both sides? Strange to hear this from the senator who is old enough to remember the cold war era.

User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
Pride of the nation? Shouldn't the nation be doing better things? It gives me absolutely no pride as an American that Michael Phelps can swim fast because the closest I've gotten to that feat was getting caught in a rain storm.

That hits close to home for me because I used to be a competitive swimmer and me and my teammates looked up to those athletes...

Quoting blrsea (Reply 15):
Strange to hear this from the senator who is old enough to remember the cold war era.

Every senator is old enough to remember the Civil War era.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Boycotting one of the only events the world has in which we truly come together and try to put politics aside is a really shitty thing to do. It doesn't punish the host, it punishes everybody. Probably won't happen, but it's ridiculous even to suggest it, particularly over an issue like this.

Agreed



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15833 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Boycotting one of the only events the world has in which we truly come together and try to put politics aside is a really shitty thing to do.

Cuba should boycott the summer Olympics anyway, since we already have most of what would be their baseball team.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 16):
That hits close to home for me because I used to be a competitive swimmer and me and my teammates looked up to those athletes...

Then look up to him, but this "pride of a nation" thing is crap. It's a lazy line of thinking. The crime rate in Jamaica doesn't drop when Usain Bolt runs fast.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17824 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Thread starter):
if Russia grants asylum to Edward Snowden.

Screw Snowden. I'm for boycotting Russia because of its recent atrocious anti LGBT "legislation". This is a country that willingly would hurt its own orphans for political gain. Also, but on a smaller note, for the crap hole that is SVO 



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 18):
Screw Snowden. I'm for boycotting Russia because of its recent atrocious anti LGBT "legislation".

I thought that was what this thread was gonna be about. Guess I shouldn't be surprised that it is some GOP politician saying something stupid and overreacting



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2495 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

Yes. Boycott the Olympics and we'll see how ignorant Sen. Graham R-SC is. How ridiculous.

I'm starting a campaign on Monday to lambast him for his stupidity and idiotic reactionism.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 19):
Guess I shouldn't be surprised that it is some GOP politician saying something stupid and overreacting
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 20):
Yes. Boycott the Olympics and we'll see how ignorant Sen. Graham R-SC is. How ridiculous.

President Jimmy Carter did the exact same thing in 1980.

Quoting slider (Reply 12):
He probably wants to distract from his abysmal record and draw attention away from the notion that he'll probably face a primary opponent. So instead of, you know, doing his job, the POS will grandstand pointlessly.

He will face a challenge from a Tea Party candidate. This is South Carolina so a Tea Party candidate can win easily there. Him and his male companion/assistant may be moving out of their upscale condo that they share in Washington DC at the end of next year.

Quoting blrsea (Reply 15):
Strange to hear this from the senator who is old enough to remember the cold war era.

Huh?
The Cold War just ended in 1991. Unless you're some young whippersnapper millennial, everyone remembers the Cold War Era.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 18):
Screw Snowden. I'm for boycotting Russia because of its recent atrocious anti LGBT "legislation".

That may be the real reason why Senator Lindsey Graham is calling for a boycott. He is rumored to be a closet homosexual. Of course he can't be open about representing a state in the Bible-belt.



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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):

That may be the real reason why Senator Lindsey Graham is calling for a boycott. He is rumored to be a closet homosexual. Of course he can't be open about representing a state in the Bible-belt.

FWIW Fly, the rumors are about as widely regarded as the rumors of Strom's illegitimate bi-racial daughter. That is to say, everyone is pretty sure they're true but avoids talking about or publicly acknowledging it.

It's also worth noting that he's up for reelection in 2014 and will likely face a more conservative challenger in the primaries. I think Graham is trying to posture here. That, or that bitch Johnny Weir stopped returning his calls.

[Edited 2013-07-19 07:50:38]


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User currently offlinetu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1255 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Does this idiot realize that such an action will self-ban the USA from the next Olympics as well?


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17824 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

On the bright side, it sounds like a corrupt, expensive disaster in the making, even by Olympic standards.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/54048484/

http://www.economist.com/news/europe...r-rich-pickings-select-few-castles

"In many ways Sochi is an odd choice for the winter games. It has a subtropical climate and is one of the very few places in Russia where snow is scarce. The opening and closing ceremonies will be held close to the Black Sea on swampy ground, once infested by malarial mosquitoes. Temperatures there rarely fall below zero. The lower slopes of the Caucasus Mountains are not guaranteed snow, so the organisers have stored last winter’s."

"Allison Stewart, of the SAID Business School at Oxford, says that Olympics tend to have cost overruns of about 180% on average. For Sochi the overrun is now 500%. But Russia made clear that money was not an issue, says Ms Stewart. She also notes that relations between the government and construction companies appear closer in Sochi than in other games. Large construction projects often have a side-effect of corruption. But in Russia corruption is not a side-effect: it is a product almost as important as the sporting event itself."

There are so many reasons to boycott this--Snowden is not one of them.



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25 DocLightning : The IOC has already warned Russia that all athletes and spectators must be guaranteed safety regardless of sexual orientation. If Russia gets stubbor
26 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Right after FIFA helps the poor in Brazil.
27 DocLightning : Well, a New Zealand speed skater has said that he will show up, he will not be in the closet, and he is going to be wearing a rainbow pin on his unif
28 tu204 : Malarial mosquitoes? Your arguement is as good as my toilet paper just from that statement... To readers from the U.S. - we ate not arresting anybody
29 MaverickM11 : Your toilet paper must be prescient as there is plenty of evidence that there was rampant malaria in the area in the early 1900s.
30 Post contains links Superfly : Well that story was publicly acknowledged and is not longer a rumor. That is fact. As far as Lindsay Graham being gay, people are starting to talk. E
31 DocLightning : Yes you are.
32 garnetpalmetto : I meant when Strom was still alive and before it became substantiated. And yes, I know people are starting to talk. They've been talking for years. Y
33 WestJet747 : Of course not. You're just arresting people for showing that they're gay.
34 tu204 : Name one person. And? Last I checked the year is 2013.
35 Post contains links WestJet747 : How about dozens? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...sted-at-gay-pride-rally-in-russia/
36 RyanairGuru : I am concerned that this came from one the smarter and more level headed Republicans. He is probably looking at the primary next year, and wanting to
37 DeltaMD90 : And I think that was silly too. What are you guys doing then? (Non confrontational, legitimate question.) I've heard some pretty bad things but I thi
38 tu204 : You will not be arrested for BEING gay. You can be as gay as you want to but gay pride parades are not accepted by the population and it is unlikely
39 DeltaMD90 : I can see rally authorization (you need protest permits or something like that in the US) but why can't you have a gay pride parade if you go through
40 johnboy : You're either willfully ignorant or a liar. Take your choice.
41 einsteinboricua : So...let's do away with the Olympics? No more US representation? Let other, inferior nations compete while the US focuses on more important things...
42 DocLightning : Or for suggesting that a law that will remove children from gay parents (even biological) is wrong. Or for suggesting that any sort of basic civil ri
43 johns624 : More conservative? Now that's scary...
44 Post contains links WestJet747 : I never said that they would be arrested for being gay, remember? But you've confirmed my point that being proud to be gay and showing it in Russia i
45 DeltaMD90 : Religion had a lot to do with it. Look at the KKK, many people forget it's a Christian organization (at least it was IIRC.) The mixing of races or so
46 BMI727 : I could live without it. So could most of the cities that spend money hosting them I suspect, but that's not the point. The point is that some Americ
47 Superfly : Oh I know you're from there. Did that story come out just before he died or just after? The Democrats have their fair-share of left-wing extremist bu
48 tu204 : You can be proud to be gay. Why do you have to show it off in a parade I do not understand however. Especially when doing so antagonizes a large part
49 apodino : This idea is absolutely stupid. I am actually sick of Lindsey Graham..as I think he runs his mouth a lot and I don't agree with him on a lot of things
50 WestJet747 : But you just can't show it, or else it's "propaganda". Why do sports teams have parades in their home city when they win the championship? I'm sure m
51 DeltaMD90 : Doesn't really matter to me why they want to do it. If I was gay, I doubt I'd partake in them. And I don't really care who gets "upset" or not. At le
52 flyingturtle : Spies, spies, spies, spies. Thanks to Mr. Snowden, Germany has learnt that the phone calls and the internet communications of its citizens have been
53 tu204 : Sure you can show it. You can't have parades or billboards depicting it though. I also think that the terminology of this law will be revisited very
54 DeltaMD90 : That's not the point though. If it's with their rights to do so and they are denied, that is wrong. When black Americans organized sit ins (which act
55 Post contains links DocLightning : We had hoped in the US that the USSR's successor would figure out a way to turn into a modern democracy. It failed to do so and is rapidly becoming a
56 YYZatcboy : Your straight privilege is showing. Ever kissed a girl in public? Ever hugged or held hands or walked down the street arm in arm? Then yes you have c
57 iowaman : This thread has veered way off topic, and thus will be archived.
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