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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15205 times:

Let me preface this by saying that this topic was inspired by the "Leisure Suit" thread.

Vinyl roof and white sidewall tires, will they make a comeback? Don't know, but I hope the polyester leisure suit and bell-bottom pants don't!

In the '50s, the fin or wing was a popular style. The '70s and '80s, vinyl roof and the white sidewall tires were popular. Today, I can't think of any car model that have these as standard features.

Was the vinyl roof only a decorative feature or did it have a function like to protect the roof? You know, like a plastic carpet runner or plastic sofa cover to prevent wear and tear on carpet and sofa respectively.


1977 Mustang II

http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/1977/1977_00007_01.jpg

1985 Caprice Classic




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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8474 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15182 times:

White sidewalls are a minor design trend and will probably return in time. The thin white wall design, not the wide one.

The padded roof might have a much harder time of it, unless they can add some super insulation for summer heat. But that insulation should already be inside the car in the headliner.

The trend that is probably out permanently are the tail fins from the late 50's. Google 1959 Cadillac for a good indication. While they won't return I can see "hints " returning at some point.

Heavy use of chrome is also something I see finding a hard time returning.

And, most importantly, square headlights on a Jeep Wrangler. They tried it once and were burned at the stake.


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3149 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15182 times:

The 1985 Caprice is probably the best looking 'oldie' American car.


There is no such thing as Boeing vs Airbus as the queen of the skies has three engines, winglets and the sweetest nose!
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15147 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Heavy use of chrome is also something I see finding a hard time returning.

I see those on front grill and bumpers of full-size pickup trucks. I'm not sure if it's factory installed or aftermarket.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15139 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
Was the vinyl roof only a decorative feature or did it have a function like to protect the roof? You know, like a plastic carpet runner or plastic sofa cover to prevent wear and tear on carpet and sofa respectively.

Decorative feature designed to emulate the look of a convertible top and they were doing this even back in the 1920s to mimic the movable tops that horse drawn carriages and buggies had. The style went away during the 30s and 40s and reappeared in the 1950s. Back then, canvas was used and it wasn't until the late 50s that vinyl started being used. My dad had a 1972 Malibu with a red vinyl roof that eventually started to crack and peel away after about 15 years of being in the elements.

While it has gone out of style in the last 25-30 years, it was offered on the Lincoln Continental as a factory option until the model went of out production in 2002. I've seen aftermarket vinyl tops applied to Lincoln Town cars, Cadillacs and even Chrysler 300s. Stretch limos and hearses still make use of vinyl roofs because it is a classic look on those vehicles, but also for practical reasons, as they cover up the welds in the roofs of such vehicles.


User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15122 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
The trend that is probably out permanently are the tail fins from the late 50's. Google 1959 Cadillac for a good indication. While they won't return I can see "hints " returning at some point.

Cadillac has slowly been putting hints of tailfins in their tail lights for a few years now. It is most noticeable in the CTS coupe and SRX, but you can kind of see it in the ATS.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 15031 times:

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Heavy use of chrome is also something I see finding a hard time returning.

Have you seen the new line of GM trucks? The amount of chrome on the thing is incredible.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 15024 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
1977 Mustang II

Where is Cheryl Teigs?

I do not ever ever ever ever want to see a vinyl top ever again. My father thought it was a good idea to buy a Dodge Aspen. Our neighbors bought a Plymouth Volare. Green with white vinyl top. What were they thinking? I am scared for life!

Wood paneling I don't mind.



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14993 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
Was the vinyl roof only a decorative feature or did it have a function like to protect the roof?

It was often said that vinyil roofs were applied at the factory to hide damage done to the roof during production.

I hope the woodies and tail finns never return. I also hate the car bra but thats not a factory issue it's just something idiots do to ruin the looks of there car.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 6):
Have you seen the new line of GM trucks?

WTF is the deal with the square wheel arches on GM trucks, you would have thought GM would have worked it out by now that wheels are round.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14975 times:

Happy Birthday Confuscious!   
12 years of craziness!



The last car to feature factory vinyl top and white wall tires was the 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham.
Also the Buick Roadmaster and Buick Century sedan.




I'd like to see a return of the loose cushion, button down leather or velour seating surface. The brand new Bentley is hinting at that but not to the extent it was done in the past. The last car to offer these plush seats was the 1994 Chrysler Lebaron Landau sedan.


1974 Imperial Lebaron sedan.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/Imperial1974seats_zps3aff1563.jpg




This is from a 1974 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham.
 photo 1975-Cadillac-051.jpg




Ford needs to whip out the belt again for the trunk.
This 1977-1979 Ford Thunderbird had a unique landau and separated vinyl top.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/Thunderbird_straps.jpg




Considering that not every Mustang is a performance car, I didn't mind seeing a more dressed up, formal looking Mustang as an option. I do like the formal, K-caresque look of the 1983 Ford Mustang convertible.
For the classic ea of Mustangs, I prefer the Mercury Cougar XR-7 convertible.
 photo 1983-Ford-Mustang-Convertible-02-800.jpg

Here is a better image of the Ford Mustang II Ghia.
Ford really dressed up the Ghia edition and has the potential to be a ballsy performer with the available 5.0 liter V8.
Of course a few tweaks would be required to get it to go.

http://www.mustangii.net/images/ghia/silver_ghia.jpg

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
I do not ever ever ever ever want to see a vinyl top ever again.
Wood paneling I don't mind.

This 1974 Mercury Colony Park station wagon featured vinyl top AND wood paneling as well as concealed headlights.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/1974MercuryColonyPark.jpg




This 1970 Ford Torino Squire wagon featured vinyl top, wood paneling AND muscle!

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/1970FordTorinoSquireWagon.jpg

Quoting srbmod (Reply 4):
Decorative feature designed to emulate the look of a convertible top and they were doing this even back in the 1920s to mimic the movable tops that horse drawn carriages and buggies had.

A carriage top is a little bit different than a vinyl top.
Here is a carriage top on the Bill Blass Edition Lincoln Mark V for the 1977-1979 model year.
Notice the ridges in the top.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/MarkVAtDock.jpg


Same car with vinyl top, not carriage top.






Here is a carriage top offered for the 1980 Mustang.

 photo 1980-Mustang.jpg

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
1985 Caprice Classic

I found a better photo. This is how they looked from 1987-1990.
Although it was the same car from 1977-1990, there were a few minor cosmetic changes thought those years. My favorite being the final 4 years of this design.

 photo chevrolet-caprice-7_zps71ab1768.jpg

The more formal Oldsmobile Ninety Eight Regency Brougham that lasted until 1984.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj96/Rush8track/RegencyBroughamCover_zps152d0f7f.jpg

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 6):
Have you seen the new line of GM trucks? The amount of chrome on the thing is incredible.

That's fake chrome, not real chrome.


I look forward to the day that the 'hybrid' hype is outdated.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6926 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14958 times:

Hybrids will be replaced by full electric.

As for the return of strange design feature, you'd have to limit yourself to the US market, as those would never work elsewhere (and probably not in the US either).



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14914 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
That's fake chrome, not real chrome.

Obviously, but the design is the same idea.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2823 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14896 times:

T-tops and screaming chicken hood decals. Please dear god.... no more!!!!



User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6926 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14876 times:

If you can get a stiffer car with less weight then a T-top isn't a bad idea I would think, although my favorite light is right car doesn't employ one when the roof is removed, apparently the chassis is stiff enough :



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 14855 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 13):
If you can get a stiffer car with less weight then a T-top isn't a bad idea I would think, although my favorite light is right car doesn't employ one when the roof is removed, apparently the chassis is stiff enough :

But you have to buy the targa top version, you can't remove the roof from the standard Exige, I've always wondered why you couldn't especially with the Mk 1 version which was just a panel. I would love one, it's a bad arse car


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14834 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
That's fake chrome, not real chrome.

Chrome plated plastic, it's cheaper to manufacture and lighter as well.


Louvers, quite popular back then.

http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/1976/1976_00015_08.jpg

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
12 years of craziness!

A year older if I kept my original username...been lurking longer. I remember buying a 56k modem so I can download pictures faster.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1640 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14818 times:

Here's a beautiful woody wagon; my personal favourite--the 1978 Chrysler LeBaron Town & Country wagon! (Still my dream car)



A recent YouTube video of a green one in mint condition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7-RnthXmk


A TV commercial for that model:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LW6Ylfn0eQ


SmithAir747

[Edited 2013-08-28 09:04:32]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 11):
Obviously,

No it wasn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have said;

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 6):
The amount of chrome on the thing is incredible.
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 15):
Louvers, quite popular back then.

Never understood the purpose of those. They also limit visibility.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 15):
I remember buying a 56k modem so I can download pictures faster.

Such as those images of the squirrel?

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 16):
Here's a beautiful woody wagon; my personal favourite--the 1978 Chrysler LeBaron Town & Country wagon! (Still my dream car)

Hang in there. You will have one very soon.  



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14764 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Never understood the purpose of those. They also limit visibility.

I think the idea of the louvers must have been to deflect some of the sunlight beating down on that large horizontal surface created by the shape of the window in the days before tinting.

Ugly as sin though.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14744 times:

Until the launch of the 2013 Lincoln MKZ, one outdated feature would've been push-button transmissions.

The 2010 Mustang brought back sequential blinking turn-signal tailights (a la '64-'71 T-Birds and '67-'73 Cougars)

Others that are gone (for now):

Turntable (yes, DeSoto offered such in the 50s)

8-track player (including ones w/Quadrasonic sound) - sorry 'Fly

Cassette (deck) player - died with the passing of the Crown Vic.

CB radio (factory option in the late 70s/early 80s)

Tubular/thermometer speedometers (Lincoln Continentals had from 1964-1977)

Horizontally-laid out speedometers (last seen on the 1996 Buick LeSabre)

R-12 Freon-based A/C

(?) 2WD/4WD tire hub switches on trucks (one had to go outside to engage/disengage 4WD)

With the passing of the 2013 Chevy Impala; front bench seats on cars (note: some trucks/SUVs still offer such)

Standard full-width, full-back front bench seats on cars (think older taxi cabs and/or police cars from the early 80s and back)

3-speed automatic transmissions (at least in the U.S. market)

4-speed manual transmissions (at least in the U.S. market)

Separate lap & shoulder seatbelts (including the much-hated motorized front shoulder belts)

Dashboard-mounted windshield wiper controls

Floor-mounted headlight dimmer switch (located underneath the emergency brake which was located at the far-left of the driver's side)

Hand-crank operated windows (currently only available on a handful of vehicles... usually bare-bones level pick-up trucks and/or small cars)



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2402 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14688 times:

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 18):
I think the idea of the louvers must have been to deflect some of the sunlight beating down on that large horizontal surface created by the shape of the window in the days before tinting.

Exactly - on a hatchback, you had a large, sloped, rear window and the louvers helped keep the car cooler.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14676 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
No it wasn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have said;

Sure it is. It is merely the object of parlance--to most, chrome and chormesque are the same damn ugly thing.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 14650 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 19):
4-speed manual transmissions (at least in the U.S. market)

Hand-crank operated windows (currently only available on a handful of vehicles... usually bare-bones level pick-up trucks and/or small cars)

I had a 1991 Honda Civic hatchback. Very basic; 4-speed manual transmission without power windows and steering, No AC and radio, and only driver side external rear view mirror.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 19):
Separate lap & shoulder seatbelts (including the much-hated motorized front shoulder belts)

Drove a 1982 Toyota Cressida.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 19):
2WD/4WD tire hub switches on trucks (one had to go outside to engage/disengage 4WD)

My brother's Geo Tracker had this feaure.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Such as those images of the squirrel?

Not exactly, other non-aviation pictures.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlinezckls04 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 1501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14619 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
This 1974 Mercury Colony Park station wagon featured vinyl top AND wood paneling as well as concealed headlights.

I think this is my dream car. Not bothered about the vinyl top but the trifecta of wagon, wood and concealed headlights? Irresistible!



If you're not sure whether to use a piece of punctuation, it's best not to.
User currently offlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14584 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
This 1970 Ford Torino Squire wagon featured vinyl top, wood paneling AND muscle!

And seemingly no headlights?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):




I've never liked partially-covered wheels. I really wouldn't want to see that returning. I know that some cars have it probably as an efficiency thing (eh Honda Insight) - but purely for styling, it's nasty.



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25 Post contains links zckls04 : They appear from behind some sliding panels in the grill. It's pretty awesome- similar to this I believe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbQoke7JWI
26 af773atmsp : At the dealership I work at we had a 2003(?) Pontiac Vibe with hand cranked windows. I sure was shocked to see that!
27 RedTailDTW : My 2005 Dodge Neon in high school had crank windows in the back. My coworker also has a 2012 Jeep Patriot with crank windows throughout. They are sti
28 Superfly : That makes more sense. Well, not the ugliest thing but I don't like them either. They looked OK on those Datsun 280Z cars of the 70s & 80s. Great
29 SmittyOne : Those things absolutely could not be killed (aside from rust). Superfly must know this one...one old school feature I remember (on Pontiac I think?)
30 PHLBOS : Forgive me but I'm not 100% sure whether both of you read the entire line of my previous post on the subject of hand-crank windows (reposted below, k
31 SmittyOne : An eminently sensible name for them, to be sure. I remember calling those the 'cigarette window'. Which brings up another old school feature...how ma
32 rfields5421 : Have you seen a new Nissian Juke? Those front headlight enclosures look like the company is trying to bring back the Plymouth tail fins - on the front
33 JoePatroni707 : One thing I cannot stand is the 1/2 digital, 1/2 analog dash on the current Honda Civics.... Is UGLY! Did Honda not get the memo that the digital dash
34 PHLBOS : Actually, many cars had digital dashes well into the mid-90s. Not sure about the upcoming 2014 Corvette but its immediate predecessor model had a dig
35 srbmod : If you want the cigarette lighter and ashtray, you have to buy the "smoker's group" option if they offer it (Which seems to be offered on trucks and
36 PHLBOS : I'm well aware of such options on newer vehicles; but it used to be standard equipment for all vehicles... even stripped-down subcompacts w/out radio
37 IH8BY : I've had a fair few cars over the last few years, none of which has come with a lighter or an ashtray. I was therefore quite surprised when I found o
38 Post contains images RedTailDTW : I had read your prior comment but I was giving af773atmsp an example of newer cars that still come with crank-windows in certain packages. Thanks for
39 JoePatroni707 : What ever happened to the groovy 8 track players of the 70's that could endlessly play disco music. I remember my friends parents had one in their Pac
40 Post contains images PHLBOS : See my earlier post (reposted below): Sometime in the early 80s, the 8-track got bumped from the options list in favor of cassette players (which sta
41 ER757 : Ahhh - memories. My Dad's '69 Pontiac had a vinyl roof - he used to use Bravo floor wax to shine it up. Had the skinny-stripe whitewall tires too. I r
42 Post contains links Ken777 : The issue with full electric is their limited range and re-charging when traveling on our Interstate system. I can get on a freeway about a mile from
43 Post contains images PHLBOS : Note the color-keyed wheels (matching the vinyl roof & trunk-mounted seatbelts). Definitely an item no longer offered. How about color-keyed whee
44 af773atmsp : I'll mention something that has gotten quite popular with the automakers; manual mode with an automatic transmission (also called manu-matic, manual m
45 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Manual Choke
46 Max Q : Three words: 'Rich Corinthian Leather'
47 KiwiRob : I can think of a couple of cars you can buy today which don't have either feature. Morgan 3 Wheeler Caterham 7 Who in 2011 still owned a cassette tap
48 Superfly : That is my old Matchbox car. They were blue. I do like the color-keyed wheel covers on the SL-450 (380/560) roadsters from 1972-1989. My favorite col
49 mad99 : Might not make sense to invest so much for 2 weeks out of 52 per year? And how many families drive 1,000 miles during two weeks every year? During my
50 Superfly : I best most of those Volt drivers have a 2nd. car as well. Also California has a lot of environmentalist with disposable income. Not an accurate samp
51 Post contains images Confuscius : My lawn mower had one. I had to do it before mowing the lawn, but made sure the neighbors didn't see me.
52 Superfly : Umm, what kind of grass were you cutting?
53 Post contains links and images Confuscius : Were curb feelers ever popular? Regular grass. I didn't want them to see me playing around with my choke.
54 Post contains images Superfly : They were popular in Gary in the 70s & early 80s. I'm sure someone has it on video.
55 Post contains links and images Skydrol : Here's a few I could think of... Before fuel injection (and computers) took over, it was Carburetors: From the 1960s to 1980s, Windshield wipers on ma
56 Viscount724 : What was the last North American car built with real chrome bumpers (not plastic that looks like chrome)? That photo of the '67 Pontiac reminds me th
57 Post contains links and images Skydrol : My best guess: 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis... by '91 the chrome bumper was almost concealed by plastic, with the restyle in '92, the metal bumper was
58 Post contains images ImperialEagle : It did help insulate against noise and heat. Maybe not so much anymore. Last year we bought one of the end-of-the-road Cadillac Devilles (pardon the
59 Post contains images Skydrol : Which is now made of plastic (and would melt if a lighter from a different car was inserted). To avoid this, the "power ports" have a recessed center
60 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : A few other relics of the past: Floor-mounted headlight dimmer switch Steering wheel horn ring ('57 Cadillac) Vent windows Wraparound windshield ('58
61 zippyjet : Concealed hidden headlamps was all the rage from the late 60's through the mid 70's. they even made it down to the mid sized (for the times) Ford Tori
62 ltbewr : The Ford Probes until the end of production in about 1996 had hidden headlights. Not a 'style' item is the practical end of 'fishing pole' metal radi
63 Max Q : How about bench seats, in the front. The whole bench slid forward and back when you adjusted it. Good times..
64 Post contains images Superfly : I like the sound of a 4 barrel carburetor secondaries opening up when you step on the gas. I have that on my car as well. It's also more stylish to h
65 ER757 : I was always a fan of the hidden headlights - my 1985 Toyota Supra and my 1988 Honda Prelude both had them.
66 Superfly : Keep in mind the difference between concealed headlights and pop-up headlights. The concealed headlights like on the older Lincolns and Chryslers wer
67 bohica : A glove compartment lock. I don't think any car has one anymore. Separate keys for the ignition and locks. All cars seem to have one key for everythin
68 MD11Engineer : There were quite a few attempts at cars in Europe aimed at farmers during this time, when farms over here transitioned from horses to tractors.. E.g.
69 ImperialEagle : Don't forget the sixties Rivieras! Those lights flipped over. Also the Eldo's---'67 and '68? Yeah. That was kind of odd although it did keep the kids
70 Post contains links DL_Mech : Don't forget the Opel GT.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBl-5DuJet0
71 Post contains links and images Superfly : I think the up-market luxury cars still come with a full-size spare. I think that was for the 1974 model year only. That year had all sorts of quirks
72 Post contains images ImperialEagle : You know it! She might still have it. Way back when I traded a lot. Would get tired of a car and get a different one all the time. Sometimes three in
73 ER757 : So did the early Corvette Stingrays - starting in 1963. Those may have been the coolest hidden headlights ever.
74 Post contains images Superfly : I'm sure today there would be lawsuits if cars still came with these. That's a great story. My story didn't end so well. When she gave me the $300 (m
75 cptkrell : Cool topic; I'm sorry that my computer has been down foe a while. A few notes (in no particular order but starting off with vinyl top appliques): 1. W
76 Post contains links and images Skydrol : How about Chrysler's "Mod Tops" for their high performance models for 1969 and 1970? Yes, this was really a factory option in 1969 and 1970! http://w
77 Post contains links ImperialEagle : In the mid 90's I bought a minty '68 Four door Continental. Black w/ a natural leather interior. Vinyl top delete. That was the first year Lincoln of
78 Post contains links ImperialEagle : One of my favorite years for Cadillac. Here's one with plenty of oprions. Just lacks cruise, twilight sentinental and auto dimming. http://cgi.ebay.c
79 cptkrell : I I guess I don't remember that aghast. I was overseas in the service at the time, but surely some would still be around on my return. Just don't rem
80 bohica : A few I forgot to mention earlier: The gas cap behind the license plate. It didn't matter what side the pump was on. Radiator caps. More and more cars
81 TSS : I think you're correct. If the rear window louvres didn't debut on the Miura, then they debuted on one of the Miura's early mid-engine italian exotic
82 Post contains links and images Skydrol : Best design ever! As you stated, no need to worry about which side to pull up to a gas pump. Also no unsightly fuel door and the nozzle scratches, sp
83 KiwiRob : Still very common in European cars. My wifes Touran has a glove compartment lock, as did the Ford Flex I rented. You'd be lucky to get a space saver,
84 Max Q : Agree with that, as an alternative I've never understood why some 'modern' cars do the worst thing possible and place the gas cap on the side opposit
85 Post contains links and images Superfly : Hey watch it. I am a fan. I think they look great on muscle cars as well, especially the Montego MX Brougham and AMC Javelin. The vinyl top did wonde
86 TSS : The gas cap pretty much has to be on one side or the other rather than in the center behind the license plate because cars now have the fuel tank eit
87 ImperialEagle : Surprise! My '68 had the Town Car option which was the all natural leather interior, some extra lighting and I don't recall what else. I remember how
88 Post contains images Superfly : Sure it wasn't a 1969? That is interesting. I thought it was 1975 until I started getting in to older cars within the last 20 years. I flagged a guy
89 ImperialEagle : In those days we smoked anything that would burn. 1968. It was the only example of that body style I ever owned and it was seriously over-engineered.
90 Post contains links IH8BY : Some absolutely great pictures and facts in this thread - keep them coming! Depends on the manufacturer here in the UK. My Peugeot 208 and 508 have bo
91 MD-90 : We had 1981 tan Cressida sedan (which everyone thought was a Mercedes) and a 1985 gray Cressida wagon, the car that I learned to drive on. I actually
92 Post contains links and images Superfly : Haha! Did a 460cu" ever have this set up? Sure it wasn't a 462cu"? 1968. I know two guys in Atlanta I could ask but their knowledge isn't as good as
93 Post contains images ER757 : No, of course not - who would ever think otherwise? Those are some great ads - they show the styles and general moods and attitudes of the times they
94 ImperialEagle : Oh, it was a 460cu. I never should have sold that car. Ever. That is one of just a handfull I should NEVER have sold. It was unique in many ways and
95 cptkrell : That cherry Montery photo with the reverse-slant power backlight sure brings back memories. And, if memory serves somewhat correct, I believe Mercury
96 TSS : My first '73 Monte Carlo had those. They were very comfortable, but the base for the swivel mechanism made them sit an inch or two higher than the re
97 Post contains links and images Superfly : Yes it was a happier time. This is such a happy picture. Today, a minivan ad with kids spaced out in their own world with their face buried in their
98 ImperialEagle : Chrysler had them all the way back to when they had rectangular steering wheels. Oh, and the stupid rear-view mirror mounted in the middle of the das
99 zippyjet : Some other styles, features, equipment that bit the dust. Opera Windows CB Radio 8 Track AM only radio Suspended, hang on air conditioners (after mark
100 TSS : And good riddance to those hateful, inefficient, space-hogging, shin-banging monstrosities! At least we finally got black back as a choice. For the l
101 Superfly : The guy I bought it from had a left it out in the sun too long. That SoCal heat & sun in the valleys are not friendly to vinyl tops over a long p
102 TSS : Like anything else, black interiors have gone in and out of style. They were very popular in the 60s and 70s, then rapidly dwindled in the 80s, becam
103 Max Q : What a fantastic thread. 'Wheel covers standard' How can you beat that !
104 ER757 : Great tie-in to another of your recent threads - note that the gentleman in the ad is wearing a leisure suit!
105 ImperialEagle : "Dealer Installed". Good riddance! I guess they were better than nothing. Dad used to call them "ball coolers" because they always seemed to blow rig
106 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : A correction to one of my earlier-posts. While away on vacation, I saw a car that proved my earlier post to be incorrect; the first generation Oldsmob
107 IH8BY : Add to that list the entry-level Dacias, which don't come with air conditioning or a car stereo. A little more mainstream than Morgan or Caterham too
108 Post contains links and images Kaphias : Mini Cooper Clubman comes to mind:
109 Post contains images PHLBOS : No quite what I'm referring to. The Clubman's doors are similar to what's commonly found in full-size vans. Many older (I'm not sure about current) C
110 Post contains images Superfly : That is true but very few Chevy buyers bought that option. Chevy folks just aren't as sophisticated as us Ford guys. I'd go for the gold exterior col
111 zippyjet : Why did the choice of colors for the interior trim fade away. One of my favorite combinations was white exterior or Silver/Gray with a blue interior.
112 Post contains links TSS : They were available on '68 and '69 Caprices as a standalone option, but were not available on the '67 models. I've seen more than one '68 Impala SS e
113 ImperialEagle : I really miss the Push-Button Automatic Transmission. I never got to use Ford's as offered on some Mercurys and Edsels. The Chrysler version is the on
114 Post contains links and images Superfly : You've just described the driver's training cars at my high school. Four 1989 Ford Tauruses, white with blue interior. That seemed to be a common col
115 L1011 : Different automatic transmission quadrants on the column or dash. I learned on a 63 Oldsmobile F85, and the letters on the quadrant were PNDLR. Most c
116 TSS : As did Chevrolet: Biscayne / Bel Air / Impala= Exposed headlights only; Caprice= Optional concealed headlights. The standardized shift quadrant and l
117 DucatiRacer : You can find them today on Aston Martins. Also, I think the new Lincoln something-or-other (who can keep track of their stupid alphabet soup names th
118 Superfly : I'm pretty sure you could get the exposed headlights with the LTD but very few delivered to the dealership that way. I hope this alphabet soup fad di
119 DucatiRacer : As do I. And for Lincoln, it is having the exaclty opposite effect if what they want is to distance themselves from their humble Ford origins. The on
120 TSS : Possibly so, although I can't help but wonder why anyone would buy an LTD with a "concealed headlight delete" option rather than the, except for inte
121 ImperialEagle : I have NEVER heard of anyone EVER having trouble (with the Chryslers). I think AMC also had it for a while and maybe even Packard. Can you imagine wh
122 Post contains images Viscount724 : Yes I remember my dad's '57 Buick was PNDLR. He replaced it with a '62 Pontiac which was PRNDL. I've often wondered why reverse on manual transmissio
123 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : Then get yourself a 2013 Lincoln MKZ; note what's on the left of the radio/heater controls. My bad, I could've sworn a pic that my brother sent me (I
124 cptkrell : 1. "Invisible grey" or black interiors; Blame the bean counters on this. Less parts numbers, complexity, costs. How it survived so long, I just don't
125 Superfly : Come to think of it, a friend of mine has 2 Ford LTDs. A 1978 LTD Landau fully loaded and a 1975 LTD Brougham coupe. His 1975 does have the exposed h
126 ImperialEagle : Ha Ha. No. I was just making a big response because I have never heard of any one having trouble with the Chrysler push-button tranny. I'll bet the A
127 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : The shift away from bare bones full-sizes in the retail market was due to the expanded choices of sizes & models. For the price of a stripped-dow
128 zippyjet : The above reminds me of another item that's becoming obsolete... the flexibility to add individual options as opposed to just getting a bunch in a Pre
129 ImperialEagle : It was supposed to be easier to hold on to when on a lengthy trip. Once you got used to the rectangular shape it wasn't too bad, yet, it was strange
130 zippyjet : And I remember reading my dad's 1969 Ford Country Squire manual. And they showed sketches of the standard three on the tree manual tranny. Of course
131 Post contains links TSS : Let me channel my Dad for a second and repeat one of his favorite car-related sayings- "Less stuff means less stuff to break, wear out, or stop worki
132 Post contains links and images Superfly : I've heard that Chrysler made the best transmissions back then. Certainly wasn't the case when the K-cars came around. I wonder how those compare to
133 ImperialEagle : I knew someone with a '66 Biscayne like that. It did have a heater. That thing lasted nearly forever. Maybe it is still going. Yes, as the 'Fly has m
134 Post contains links and images Superfly : I've noticed the stripped down models tend to go forever. Fewer parts to brake down or wear out. Most LTD Landau owners never bothered to get a new v
135 RussianJet : I drove a Mitsubishi 4x4 that was new in 2006 and came with a tape player! I thought this was somewhat ridiculous for 2006.[Edited 2013-09-08 09:29:33
136 TSS : I had one of those as my primary vehicle for 12 years, although mine was more like a very well equipped Delta 88 (not stripped at all, but not quite
137 Superfly : Keep in mind many auto manufactures had/has a glut of cassette decks and put them in as a base unit. It's better than nothing at all. People still ha
138 RussianJet : THAT would be awesome, But - if you only have the single tape player in the vehicle, and it's not a cheap vehicle, it makes no sense to go with a sin
139 Superfly : I still remember test driving one here in Bangkok almost 3 years ago. I loved that car but they are not cheap. As a single drive, it's not the best i
140 RussianJet : Ripping from LPs is fairly straightforward, and in addition to that, there are other sources of music that can be burned to CD, both from legit and n
141 Superfly : Not everyone has the proper sound cards with RCA inputs on their computer to record from analog sources. Many feel comfortable with a traditional ste
142 RussianJet : Sure, but then as I said, there are many other music sources out there that can be burned to CD.
143 Superfly : The cassette deck post 2000 was aimed at older buyers that like older music. Most likely older music they already have on analog formats such as LP a
144 Post contains images ImperialEagle : Or a bale of something. Those clam-shell tail gates were great! Premium fuel at that! I know what you mean! Back in the day, there were "Jim Wallace"
145 Max Q : Simulated yacht deck paneling..
146 seb146 : Hood ornaments. They need to start doing hood ornaments. Not like the ones on Mercedes but like on the 1950s Mercurys and Cadillacs.
147 ImperialEagle : They were like works of art. The hub of the steering wheel as well!
148 PHLBOS : My fore-mentioned '76 Landau actually had the Climate Control version (vs. the standard A/C); it was probably the only luxury-oriented option it had.
149 bhill : The Ford/Mazda LA4A-EL / CD4E transmissions....dogs......Still in use in a lot of platforms.
150 PHLBOS : Another feature item (at least as it peertains in the North American market) seemingly gone for good... doorlock keyhole on the front passenger's-side
151 Superfly : Agreed! Some of my favorites were the Mercury Cougars throughout the 1970s, the Cadillacs of this era, all the Jaguars, Rolls Royce and the Chrysler
152 PHLBOS : I saw the eBay 2 to 3 years ago; I think the engine it had was the 390. While I knew a manual transmission existed on the '69 and earlier models mode
153 Superfly : I know performance gurus prefer manual clutch but did they feel the same about 3 on the tree? The 390cu" was a ballsy engine.
154 Post contains links and images zippyjet : How could I forget these two styles: I. Hybrid pick up/car Here is the 1973 El Camino from the late lamented TV series My Name Is Earl The Ford Ranche
155 Post contains links sprout5199 : The Honda Ridgeline a the 40 or second mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITppAK6IFOY Dan in Jupiter
156 Post contains images TSS : The last American-made ones I recall were the '64-'65 Chevelle 2-door wagons, basically wagon versions of the ''64-'65 El Caminos. They didn't look b
157 Superfly : What about the Pinto and Vega wagons? Yikes! Must have been a pain in the ares getting people in to the back seat. Two doors usually have a longer do
158 TSS : I should have clarified and said "Full- or mid-size" as did Zippyjet. The Pinto/Bobcat and Vega/Astre wagons were sub-compacts, although strictly as
159 zippyjet : I've got to call "foul" on posting a pic of a '61 Plymouth to illustrate the strange looks of 2-door wagons because every body style and trim level of
160 TSS : Virgil Exner, Chrysler's former chief stylist and creator of the "Forward Look" is quoted as saying his design ethic was "Go all the way, then back o
161 PHLBOS : Ford's last full-size 2-door wagon was a version of their '61 Ranch Wagon. A cargo variant (no 2nd or 3rd row seats) called the Courier also made its
162 Post contains links and images zippyjet : Interestingly enough Chrysler canned Exner sometime during the early 60's. What I didn't like about the 60 and 61 models especially the wagons was th
163 Post contains links and images kiwirob : Sure are. Sold all over Europe, both are very popular in Japan and you can even buy them in America. Volvo XC90, BMW X5, Range Rover all have two pie
164 IH8BY : Almost exclusively in Australia and NZ, or are these more widespread?
165 Post contains images kiwirob : True but the Fiat is sold all over South America. There is also the VW Saveiro
166 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : I said 2-way (or 3-way), not 2-piece; a completely different animal. Ford's 3-way doorgate that they offered from 1966 through 1991. '73 Country Squi
167 Mah4546 : The Morgan 3 Wheeler is sold in the U.S., but Morgan has a grand total of one U.S. dealership, in San Francisco.
168 Post contains links and images zippyjet : Pontiac had a concept based on this Holden. But Pontiac went the way of the Boeing 2707. I feel if these combos could have the taught handling and st
169 Post contains links and images kiwirob : Actually that wasn't a concept but Holden using up the parts, they also slapped the Pontiac front on the Sportwagon. You know which America I mean, t
170 ImperialEagle : Nah, although when combined with Positraction it was still pretty kool. I think the main selling point for the old manual shift was because it was in
171 PHLBOS : To 'Fly, Price corrections to my previous post regarding Mustang (II), T-Bird & Elite prices (this is what I get for going by memory, I forgot to
172 kiwirob : Personally I don't see the point in the tail gate being able to ope 2 or 3 different way. BTW the BMW 5GT and Skoda Superb habr boats that open like
173 Post contains links and images zippyjet : Back in the day, mid to late 60's, Ford with their "magic tailgate" 3 way enabled versatility. Back then, for a lot of women (housewives/moms) this w
174 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : Granted the earlier-posted Ford & Chevy ads are a bit hard to read the descriptions & attributes of the 2/3-way tailgates due to the image si
175 Post contains links kiwirob : You must be looking at the wrong BMW website because here it is. http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...?Series=5&BodyStyle=Gran%20Turismo
176 Post contains images zippyjet : My mistake you are correct. Though this is a 1970 Country Squire dash, my dad's was identical except of course for the steering wheel horn design and
177 PHLBOS : As the 535i Gran Turismo not the 5GT per your earlier post (see below). That's what threw me off. In the future if you're going to mention a model to
178 Post contains links and images Polot : Actually Pontiac was going to bring over the ute badged as the G8 ST, however that plan was scrapped for financial reasons a few months before GM dec
179 kiwirob : So is the F10/11 5 Series.
180 N1120A : Anything in Superfly's car would qualify.
181 Post contains images Superfly : Come on, you can find a better photo of a 1991-1996 wagon. I have to disagree. My vote goes to the Pontiac Aztec. Yes, the Neon. Those are just start
182 zippyjet : But, interestingly enough you could not get power locks or power windows in the Mustang during the 1974 to 1978 run of the Mustang II. Mustangs from
183 Superfly : Well aware of that. That's why I said; The premium Mustang II options fascinate me because of the absurdity of a Pinto-based car costing as much as a
184 Post contains images zippyjet : Check out the matron lady with gloves and that old school hang on air conditioner unit. Driving gloves and the hang on units are outdated.
185 Post contains images ImperialEagle : Oh yeah! Modern ugly. Hahaha. I forgot about that one. What about a Juke?
186 zippyjet : Check out the archives for several "Ugly Car" threads in the Nov-Aviation thread. It seemed that Chrysler Plymouth, Dodge and the last De Soto's earl
187 ImperialEagle : Well, the '61-'63 Imperial's headlight arrangement was waaaaay over the top. Not to mention impractical to try and keep clean.It would have ripped th
188 zippyjet : The '67 Imperial was a looker and jumped leap years ahead. It actually looked like something Virgil Exner would have designed had he stayed with the
189 Post contains links and images Skydrol : That's what I drive... '71 LTD Country Squire with 429. Even the same color! Light steering / bad handling, terrible fuel economy, but a very quiet,
190 Post contains images stasisLAX : Perhaps the Holden Ute will make it to the American marketplace as a Chevy El Camino, companion to the Chevy SS sport sedan. Another blast from the p
191 TSS : Yes, they did: The entire 1961 Dodge full-size line-up. While the first-generation Neons were definitely victims of a severe beating with a "cutesie-
192 Post contains links and images Skydrol : Yes, when cars had lines, looked different from each other (and even previous years), before just about every car turned into a wind tunnel-inspired
193 Post contains images TSS : Someone more skilled at PhotoShop than I should really add a couple of Fiat 500s mounted on davits (lifeboat-style) to the flanks of that Eldorado.
194 zippyjet : Regarding power windows and locks on Mustang II's. My guess was it would have cost too much money and tooling to offer them on a Pinto based platform
195 Post contains images Superfly : ME! I absolutely HATE the jellybean design. It was cool when AMC first did it with the Pacer but now everyone has been doing it since the 1986 Ford T
196 ImperialEagle : Beautiful. That one must be maxed-out with options---it even has cornering lights. I assume it has an automatic transmission as three-on-the-tree wou
197 DucatiRacer : I don't know, I think that segment is still alive and well. I would actually consider my car (BMW 6-series) to qualify, as would the Mercedes E-Class
198 stasisLAX : My Dad owned a '76 Grand Prix LJ that looked almost identical to the one in the photo - but without the leaky T-Tops. 400 cubic inch V-8, and a 6+ fo
199 Post contains links and images zippyjet : One of my closest friends got his dad's 77 Grand Prix (Last year of that generation of the GM sporty mid size). A very cool looking car. I'm sorry ab
200 Superfly : There was also the even more basic Ford LTD II, Chevrolet Malibu, Plymouth Fury and AMC Matador. Sorry to hear about your fathers passing. Sounds lik
201 type-rated : How about the steering wheels that had the horn integrated into the rim? On my 70' Cougar all you had to do was squeeze the steering wheel rim anywher
202 TSS : Oy... the infamous "Rim Blow" (yes, that really is what it was officially named) steering wheel. I had them on two of my cars, the '73 Mark IV and th
203 ltbewr : I had them with some of my 1960's vintage cars I had in the 1970's. Many of the steering wheels of that era were of hard plastic and uncomfortable. Y
204 Superfly : My 1974 Lincoln Mark IV had Rim Blow. It never worked properly. One time my Rim Blow just started blowing uncontrollably. After 4 months of owning th
205 type-rated : I did notice that the rim blw steering wheel was thinner than normal steering wheels were. The only part of the steering wheel that "blew" was in inte
206 ImperialEagle : The '70 Cadillac's had them. It was easier to just squeeze the wheel but not as satisfying as punching the the center-pad as you envisioned making co
207 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : I always thought the horn ring, common until the 1960s or so, was more user-friendly than having to press the steering wheel hub or crossbars. With a
208 cptkrell : Wow, I couldn't believe there were 80 new replies to this topic in my week absence (went on a bucket-list trip to the air races in Reno, where we saw
209 Superfly : The Mustang II would have looked sweet on the Torino platform. I think it's a beautiful car, just too small. Just increase it's dimensions in every d
210 IADCA : I learned to drive on an '83 Cressida, tan inside and out with a 5-speed manual. Wonderful car, and a hell of a lot quicker than people ever seemed t
211 flyingclrs727 : Most of that chrome is plated onto plastic rather than steel.
212 TSS : The '71-'73 Mustangs were almost as big as Torinos, even though they were built on the slightly lighter and narrower Falcon/Fairlane/Maverick chassis
213 cptkrell : I'm thinking that the original Mustang was just about right for market-intent. Sales proved it was MORE than perfect for market-intent. The slightly
214 flyingclrs727 : Exploding gas tanks like the ones on the Ford Pinto and Mustang II. About 30 years ago a local jury in my county awarded $104 million for a case wher
215 Post contains images Superfly : Those are often forgotten about and overlooked cars. They were very comfortable, luxurious and had some power. Thanks for the heads up. I wont. I don
216 IADCA : My parents had an Acclaim at the same time they had the Cressida, so I got to drive that one as well. Both that and the Spirit I had were V6s, those
217 Post contains links and images Superfly : No that wasn't factory but a necessity in some regions. Now just imagine that Spirit but with fully digital instrument panel, velour seats or rich, t
218 Post contains images PHLBOS : Regarding the Mustang II: According to most historical reports (Cptkrell can verify); Ford actually started work on two different platforms for a succ
219 type-rated : The problem with the original Mustang II was that Ford at first was only turning out loaded models. A fully loaded Mustang II's price was getting up t
220 Post contains links PHLBOS : Except for the latter point, the above actually describes what's been happening with the current Mustang rather than the Mustang II. To be fair, whil
221 Post contains links flyingclrs727 : Here's some info from the Durill Foundation website. Apparently Ford decided not to recall the Mustang II even after they had recalled the Pinto even
222 Superfly : That would have been nice to have a choice. Similar to the LTD and LTD II as well as the Bronco and Bronco II. That was a great year. Their 75th Anni
223 Post contains links and images kiwirob : Go take a look at the Rolls Royce, Bentley and Bugatti webpages, lots of two tone paint on them.
224 Post contains images PHLBOS : All Panther-based models through 1984. All Fox-based Continentals through 1983. Yes, however when driver's side airbags came on the scene again in th
225 kiwirob : If he ment that he should have said two tone on mainstream cars, as two tone on premium cars has never stopped. There are also plenty of main stream
226 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : True, but I believe that when one mentions two-tone; they typically more than one color on the car's body as opposed to just having a different color
227 Post contains links and images Superfly : That sucks. I guess the 1980 Lincoln Mark VI Signature Series sedan and 1981 Lincoln Town Coupe had this feature. The power glass moonroof option is
228 PHLBOS : Good to know. However, the info. I pulled was from an actual Ford Motor Company publication that came out when the '76 models were brand new... it wa
229 Superfly : That is possible. It's in the brochure for the 1977 Lincoln Continental. Yes, thanks.
230 ImperialEagle : Yes. I had a '77 Fleetwood Brougham that had a CB radio so I'm sure the Lincoln of the day would have had them.
231 Post contains images Luxair : That's the reason why i'm so badly in love with the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S 4matic! It have the old fashioned looks, like a Rock in the Windtunnel! Th
232 Superfly : Who made the CBs for GM? Ford used the Motorola MOCAT 40 prior to going to the smaller remote control CB for 1978 and onwards.
233 PHLBOS : That would make logical sense. The first Ford model to offer such was the 1979 LTD per the brochure. It may be a while since the publication is at ho
234 Superfly : YIKES, well in that case don't bother. That is too involved and requires too much work. What about the Ford vans and trucks? I'm sure some had to hav
235 PHLBOS : Given that (seemingly) only Cadillacs and Lincolns had factory CB radios on the options' list in 1977; the vans and trucks may not have gotten them u
236 Superfly : Seems like Pontiac would have been the first to offer in their Firebird Trans Am.
237 Post contains images PHLBOS : How do you know the one Burt Reynolds used was a factory-installed CB? Remember, Hollywood can get away with nearly anything in movies.
238 Superfly : Well considering Ford was quick to offer the Startchy & Hutch paint colors for the Gran Torino and Montego, I just thought Pontiac would be equal
239 PHLBOS : Paint colors are a little easier to come by than factory CBs back then. Ford already had those colors in stock and offered both the red & white o
240 cptkrell : I'm quite a bit off with all off all of my dead cells, but every time (which is not often) I see a Starsky & Hutch Torino paint scheme, I subcons
241 Post contains images ImperialEagle : khouhjl ;j;lkj
242 TSS : Agreed 100%! Even though I was a child when Starsky & Hutch debuted, I thought the graphics on the Torino could have been done much, much more at
243 Max Q : I had a Ford LTD I think it was that had its Horn button mounted on the end of the same stalk used to control the wipers ! Ridiculously user unfriendl
244 Superfly : I was thinking the opposite. It's not the best looking design but does bring back good memories. That makes a lot more sense. ???? What year was your
245 ImperialEagle : oops! Sorry. That -7B has a lot of nice features and plenty of power. It's just that the engines are unreliable. They are not street legal either.
246 cptkrell : I totally agree. I spent only less than a year assigned to the Thunderbird Interior Styling Studio but do remember that goofy feature, although not w
247 PHLBOS : The full-size LTDs & Crown Vics. had them from '79-'84. The mid-size 'Fox' LTD only had them in 1983. The following Ford Motor Company vehicles h
248 Superfly : I wonder if it's possible to put an 1985-1989 steering wheel in a 1979-1984 LTD/Grand Marquis and do away with the turn signal mounted horn.
249 TSS : I'm sure it's possible; The real question is would it be easier to swap out the entire steering column and steering wheel assembly rather than just t
250 Superfly : That's actually more precisely what I meant to say.
251 PHLBOS : I believe that it would likely depend on the location point of where the wiring for the horn deviates from the earlier turn-stalk design to the later
252 mad99 : Wood steering wheels. Duel zone air-con feature (currently available but soon to die)
253 Superfly : Really? Why? That is such a neat feature. I remember first seeing those on the 1991 Buick Park Avenue. The Toyota Crown Royal Saloon I'm looking at h
254 IH8BY : Soon to die? And be replaced by what? Three of my last four cars have had dual-zone digital air con and my next one will have it too...
255 zippyjet : Another white elephant car feature I don't miss: On the Trunk key lock/hole especially GM cars had a little door you had to push aside to maneuver th
256 Post contains images 2707200X : Curb Feelers
257 zippyjet : Half the JC Whitney catalog from anywhere before 1988! How could I forget "swamp coolers for cars."[Edited 2013-09-25 16:28:16]
258 cptkrell : I guess I don't remember a Mustang II with an opera window. The notchback had a smallish rear quarter window running off the 'B' pillar from the belt
259 Skydrol : Was this the year and type of AMC driven by Christopher Lee and Hervé Villechaize in the Man With The Golden Gun, which morphed into the airplane ca
260 TSS : Yep, when those covers were new they had a little nub cast into the base that held the cover open until you turned the key in the trunk lock. Unfortu
261 Max Q : Okay, here's a question about modern cars, why do hardly any of them not have an exterior handle for opening the trunk ? That omission is incredibly a
262 mad99 : My car has it too. Does it keep the right and left sides of the car at 18 and 19 degrees? No. Maybe if you set it at 25 and 16 the two sides would be
263 Superfly : I quoted you and forgot to respond. My concern now is the Lincoln Mark VI. I love the 1980 Lincoln Mark VI Signature series sedan. I wonder if the st
264 Post contains images PHLBOS : The remote trunk-release in the glove box for both my '76 LTD Landau and '85 Mercury Grand Marquis LS only required the key to be in the ignition (I
265 seemyseems : The interior locking system on my 09 Mazda, its the old style manual locks. Unlike our other cars when the locks just undo when the door is opened. On
266 Post contains links iowaman : Even with my semi-fast connection it's getting tough to load this thread due to length. here is part two: Outdated Car Style Features Part 2 (by iowam
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