PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 8361 posts, RR: 19 Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2227 times:
Tonight after the Red's amazing win against the LA Dodgers, the Great 8 from the 1975-76 World Series Pennant-winning team reunited at Great American Ballpark for the first time since the 70s. MLB gave the Reds permission to let Pete Rose participate as well...
It was such a beautiful moment for Cincinnati and Reds fans worldwide. It brought Pete Rose to tears, and it showed that there's seriously no other team like that Reds team..or the Reds in general.
But it begs the question for Redleg fans world-wide.....why the heck is A-rod given a suspended sentence of 220 games, Braun a season-ending suspension to be able to return next year potentially....while Pete Rose was banned for life for gambling....and never ever throwing a game in the name of gambling...? The game's best hitter imaginable with over 4200 hits. If Bud Sielig is NOT going to ban A-Rod and Braun for life, then he must out of simple fairness, let Pete back in!
Airstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3503 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
Uh.... when "The Great 8" reunite in Cincinnati, I require that you be talking about Arthur Carlson, Andy Travis, Dr. Johnny Fever, Jennifer Marlowe, Herb Tarlek, Bailey Quarters, Venus Flytrap, and Les Nessman.
seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13677 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2171 times:
Quoting Airstud (Reply 1): when "The Great 8" reunite in Cincinnati, I require that you be talking about
well played, sir.
As for the OP: I never understood why Pete Rose was banned. It was bad he was gambling on baseball but I didn't think he was throwing games so he could come out ahead. IMO, taking drugs to have an advantage is worse than that.
ER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 3008 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2120 times:
Quoting Airstud (Reply 1): Uh.... when "The Great 8" reunite in Cincinnati, I require that you be talking about Arthur Carlson, Andy Travis, Dr. Johnny Fever, Jennifer Marlowe, Herb Tarlek, Bailey Quarters, Venus Flytrap, and Les Nessman.
Yeah - that's a re-union that I'd love to see! Great show.....
But to get back on topic - I believe Rose should be let back in - to continue his ban is crazy. Yeah, he bet on baseball, but from all accounts he never bet against his team meaning he was doing anything he could to win those games - and isn't that what anyone should do? Hopefully Selig will reinstate him as one of his final acts as the commish. Rose belongs in the HOF.
That was a great team. Of course it speaks a lot for the 1975 Red Sox as well to take them to the end of 7 games. The Sox did not have the overall talent that the Reds did, but they had a lot of scrappiness.
I became a Sox fan back then due to the great rookie seasons of Rice and Lynn, and the '75 WS was a huge agony that wasn't erased till 2004.
Of course I'm OK with being a Boston sports fan over that era, with multiple championships from the Sox as well as the Patriots, Bruins and Celtics.
My friends from Ohio can only dream of such things.
Quoting seb146 (Reply 2): IMO, taking drugs to have an advantage is worse than that
My feelings are that while gambling and doping are equally bad at the individual morals level, gambling is a far greater danger to the game/industry and always will be treated harsher.
From what I've read, doping can't take a poor athlete and make him a great one, it can only make a good athlete better. With gambling, a relatively average player can change the outcome of a game totally because it usually only takes one or two bad mistakes to blow a game. Also note that gambling doesn't take good players and make them better, it takes average players and turns them into chumps by motivating them to make bad plays. Doping still requires the player to compete and to excel over time because it doesn't give the player the ability to do something they could not do overnight, whereas gambling can change the game overnight because it requires nothing more than a lot of money and one corrupt player.
Personally I have no need to see Pete Rose back in baseball's good graces. It's clear he was treated harshly, but it seems to me that it is having a strong deterrent effect with regard to gambling. There definitely were rules about gambling going back to the Black Sox scandal. Rose had every reason to not break the rules, but still chose to do so, and is dealing with the aftermath.