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Just Leased A 2014 Mercedes Benz C250  
User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

I'm excited so I thought I would post.

Last night the lady and I Leased a 4 Door 2014 Mercedes C250. The black color looks pretty damn good. While it may not be the absolute best car out there, it's a great little vehicle for a secondary "beater" car that we will use to go to the gym, airport, store, etc.

Just expressing my delight for a new car. It's hard to beat the new car smell, other than maybe a new plane smell  

Anyway, if anyone has any questions, please let me know. I think I'm going to the gym now just so I can take it for a little spin  

Cheers,


Christopher W Slovacek
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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5426 times:
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The C250 starts at $37,000. If that's your "beater" car, WTF is your normal car?!?!??!

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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5402 times:

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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7149 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5390 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 1):
The C250 starts at $37,000. If that's your "beater" car, WTF is your normal car?!?!??!

That's what I thought.
Anyway I enjoy Mercedes Benz a lot. My family has always had a Mercedes as one of the family cars. I even currently drive a G500. Its a one owner car (my family) and has over 126,000 miles on it. It runs great and has had very few problems and so far zero problems with the engine or transmission (knock on wood) The 5.0 liter engine on the G500 is a classic Benz engine and IMO will likely run for a few hundred thousand more miles if taken care of well.

I have driven the C250 as a loaner before. Fun little car to drive. Handles well, good acceleration too. I will say for that price range there are other cars I would put first. To get more value for the money. I feel like a loaded Passat is better than a base C-Class but you can almost never go wrong with a Benz.

Let us know how you like it.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3621 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5382 times:

Wow, look at this cool guy over here! Thing is, its still leased...

User currently onlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 1):
The C250 starts at $37,000. If that's your "beater" car, WTF is your normal car?!?!??!

Considering the current lease special is $4k down and $349/mo for 27 months, I'd say it makes a pretty easy beater as it's unlikely he will end up spending more than $13k during the lease.

This is precisely why I love leasing. I know they're terrible investments, however I simply view the monthly car payments as a necessary expense to have whatever "flavor of the month" it is that I want.



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

Congrats on the new ride! I am starting to get the bug. My lease on my 2011 Acura TL ends next year (I hate this car with a passion). Not sure what I will get but both BMW and Mercedes are contenders.

User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2536 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5353 times:
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Congratulations! I hope you enjoy it.

I took my car in for service today and got a (not new, of course) C250 loaner. It's a fun little scooter.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3621 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 7):
(not new, of course) C250 loaner. It's a fun little scooter.

Thank goodness it was not a new one. Those are CRAP cars now. Seatbelts... get outta here!


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7149 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5311 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 6):
Not sure what I will get but both BMW and Mercedes are contenders.

My girlfriend has a 2013 328i and man it is such a pleasure to drive! I think between the C and the 328 I like the 328 more from a driving perspective but I think the C is a better deal when you start talking options.



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User currently offlinea321luke From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Always a good choice. MB is second favorite car brand.

I ended up buying a Cadillac ATS 3.6L after comparing it to the 335i, S4, and C350. All were excellent cars, but the ATS IMHO drives better than all of them.

Of course, mine is being bought back by GM because of all the problems its had, but still...



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

Love it how you guys refer to a C class or 3 series as 'little'. Gives a wonderful perspective, as this side of the pond (and most other places) they would never be referred to in the same way. A 'little' car is something like a Polo or a Yaris, bet some of you would die if we showed you a 'mini' car like a Up! or a C1.  

Mom's got a 5-door Polo. All the car you could ever ask if you have but yourself +1 to haul around. She could have bought a C class or 3 series if she wanted, but don't see the need for what she calls a large car. And there's that perspective thing again.

PS
Congrats on the car, but since it's not an AMG you just grew 20 years older  



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User currently offlineyowza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4882 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 6):

Congrats on the new ride! I am starting to get the bug. My lease on my 2011 Acura TL ends next year (I hate this car with a passion). Not sure what I will get but both BMW and Mercedes are contenders.

Get the new A4. It's a peach to drive.

YOWza



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User currently offlineual777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1550 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

I love my 09 C350 Sport  


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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2438 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4944 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Thread starter):
4 Door 2014 Mercedes C250. The black color looks pretty damn good.

This calls for a photo!

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 11):
Love it how you guys refer to a C class or 3 series as 'little'. Gives a wonderful perspective, as this side of the pond (and most other places) they would never be referred to in the same way. A 'little' car is something like a Polo or a Yaris, bet some of you would die if we showed you a 'mini' car like a Up! or a C1.

To me C-class is tiny! But my daily driver is a GMC Yukon Denali....huge. Almost 6000 pounds empty weight, 525 hp and 550 lb-ft torque with my add-on supercharger. :P

I want to look at the new CLA250, it looks really hot. If i actually get one I will wait for 4MATIC though.



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4876 times:

Pellegrine,

I believe the only way to get 4WD in a CLA (which is based on the B-class, not the C-class so FWD) is if you get yourself into the AMG45 version.

As for your daily drive .... horses for courses is about the most positive thing I have to say  



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7953 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 11):
Love it how you guys refer to a C class or 3 series as 'little'.

  

Most definitely. I think they are midsize cars and already too big for some occasions. My neighbors got a 3-series BMW the other day and asked me to trade our underground parking spaces because they have difficulties getting that thing around the corner. Some winding roads here basically call for a smaller car as well. I'd guess a modern C-class or 3-series is about as long as an S-class Mercedes was in the 70s.



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10707 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

Oh shit, its 2014 already?

Quoting DFWHeavy (Thread starter):
Last night the lady and I Leased a ... Mercedes C250.

Congratulations. But you know its an "old" model soon to be replaced?

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 1):
The C250 starts at $37,000.

Are you sure? Its built in Germany, and still in the homeland we have to pay a lot more for it despite it hasnt to be transported over the pond. 40.000 Euros/$53.000 without extras is were it starts. And more if you are not at home next to the factory. Strange math if true that a Merc salesman better explains to me.


User currently offlineAY-MD11 From Finland, joined Feb 2001, 472 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

Mercs are nice cars but i prefer the 2014 Volvo s60 myself.


http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2013/02/2014-Volvo-S60-front-left-view-1024x640.jpg


User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4821 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
My neighbors got a 3-series BMW the other day and asked me to trade our underground parking spaces

Which brings up the question, are our parking spaces too small, or our cars too big?   My sister drives a Mini Cooper, which is not much of a car really, and it hardly fits in her underground parking garage. Take any bigger vehicle and you would be doing precision work. The only reasonably-sized parking spots I have come across are in garages of IKEA. Perhaps they could squeeze in some more, but I guess they know their customers value the loading space, so it may be an economic decision after all.

[Edited 2013-09-13 09:35:36]


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7953 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Quoting na (Reply 17):
Oh shit, its 2014 already?

Yeah, seems I slept through NYE as well, bummer!
Funny how they count. If anything it's more like the 2011 or 2012 model or whatever soon to be replaced by the 2014 model.

Quoting na (Reply 17):
Its built in Germany, and still in the homeland we have to pay a lot more for it despite it hasnt to be transported over the pond.

Business as usual. Germans have always been willing to pay more for their Golden Calfes than other nations, hence automakers charge more from us.



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User currently offlineual777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1550 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Quoting na (Reply 17):

Are you sure? Its built in Germany, and still in the homeland we have to pay a lot more for it despite it hasnt to be transported over the pond. 40.000 Euros/$53.000 without extras is were it starts. And more if you are not at home next to the factory. Strange math if true that a Merc salesman better explains to me.

C250 starts at around $35,000 I believe. I think they are starting to build them in Alabama as well next to the ML line.



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4703 times:

Quoting na (Reply 17):

Are you sure? Its built in Germany, and still in the homeland we have to pay a lot more for it despite it hasnt to be transported over the pond. 40.000 Euros/$53.000 without extras is were it starts. And more if you are not at home next to the factory. Strange math if true that a Merc salesman better explains to me.

actually the majority of US market C classes are built in East London, South Africa. I should know, my dad has a 2013 C250  .

Quoting ual777 (Reply 21):
C250 starts at around $35,000 I believe. I think they are starting to build them in Alabama as well next to the ML line.

It starts at about 36k or so. The next C class, from the 2015 model year, will be built in Alabama.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7149 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting na (Reply 17):
Are you sure? Its built in Germany, and still in the homeland we have to pay a lot more for it despite it hasnt to be transported over the pond. 40.000 Euros/$53.000 without extras is were it starts. And more if you are not at home next to the factory. Strange math if true that a Merc salesman better explains to me.

Oh yea, $35-$37k is the normal starting price for a C class type car. The prices of cars in Europe are insane if you ask me. The price you guys pay for a C Class built in your country we can get an E-Class imported. 3 series, A4, C-Class are typical level cars for the middle class, young professionals and the typical car for upper class teenagers.

I'm always shocked at the prices of cars in many countries, I guess it has something to do with taxes too.



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 22):
The next C class, from the 2015 model year, will be built in Alabama.

Now thats a HUGE mistake. The Mercedes SUVs that are built in AL are very much of inferior quality to the German counterparts. Americans build the worst cars on the road, so we dont need them messing up more cars.

Quoting na (Reply 17):
Are you sure? Its built in Germany,

If the VIN starts with the letter W its built in Germany (a few exceptions). But chances are its built there.

On a separate note, the next generation VW Golf/GTI will only be built in Mexico. Again a bad choice, you can tell the quality difference between the German built VWs and the Mexican ones.

Guess I will be sticking with a BMW 3 series when the lease is up on my Acura (a car I hate with a passion)


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 24):
Now thats a HUGE mistake. The Mercedes SUVs that are built in AL are very much of inferior quality to the German counterparts. Americans build the worst cars on the road, so we dont need them messing up more cars.

i heard initially there were problems but that has been mostly sorted out now.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 24):
If the VIN starts with the letter W its built in Germany (a few exceptions). But chances are its built there.

yeah the VIN will tell you where the car is built. As far as i know, the majority of C classes are built in South Africa and shipped over here. I havent driven a Mercedes SUV, but our C class is just fine, even being built in South Africa. I dont think the US plants are of any lower standard.


User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4713 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 25):
yeah the VIN will tell you where the car is built. As far as i know, the majority of C classes are built in South Africa and shipped over here. I havent driven a Mercedes SUV, but our C class is just fine, even being built in South Africa. I dont think the US plants are of any lower standard.

If I go with a Benz or BMW I will likely do the European delivery program.. Save 7%.. If I do it will be a German built!


User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2438 posts, RR: 8
Reply 27, posted (11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 15):
I believe the only way to get 4WD in a CLA (which is based on the B-class, not the C-class so FWD) is if you get yourself into the AMG45 version.

Hmm I thought they are releasing a non-AMG 4MATIC version in the states. I know the USA versions have been different from EU versions for a long time now. EU usually has more engine choices and more options available historically.

I'll see though; I need an inexpensive grocery getter. Looking at a Prius or the Audi S4.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 15):
As for your daily drive .... horses for courses is about the most positive thing I have to say  

Yes I know it's terrible. I am spoiled, I call it my "Land Yacht". My friends do too. We went to the beach and had 5 people sleeping in it, 4 of them laying down  . When that 6.2 litre supercharged V-8 turns over it goes "brrrrrummm brrrrumm brrrummm brrrrrummm"...when you put the hammer down you can literally hear the gasoline being sucked into it. :P

Gets about 23.0 L/100km  



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 28, posted (11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 27):
I need an inexpensive grocery getter. Looking at a Prius or the Audi S4.

How you managed to get the words inexpensive and Audi S4 in the same sentence is somewhat perplexing. But I will say just one word: Golf. All the car you could ever ask for, and if you get a GTI then you have one the finest pocket rockets as well. But go for a 1.4 Bluemotion if it's just for getting groceries in.



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User currently offlinekiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7303 posts, RR: 5
Reply 29, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 11):
Love it how you guys refer to a C class or 3 series as 'little'.

It's not exactly big.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 15):
I believe the only way to get 4WD in a CLA (which is based on the B-class, not the C-class so FWD) is if you get yourself into the AMG45 version.

The CLA 250 comes as a 4matic in Europe, no idea about the US, it's also far closer to the A clas than the B class.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 24):
The Mercedes SUVs that are built in AL are very much of inferior quality to the German counterparts.

The W166 ML class and both generations of GL, are only built in the US, I don't see any drop in quality, Mercedes have higher standards then the US automakers and aren't hampered by union labour.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 24):

On a separate note, the next generation VW Golf/GTI will only be built in Mexico. Again a bad choice, you can tell the quality difference between the German built VWs and the Mexican ones.

Yet the Mexican build Golf 6 wagons built in Mexico for Europe were of a much higher quality and spec than the Jetta wagon built for the US market.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 30, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Do leases still have mileage caps?
Leasing is an easier way to get in a new car but if it's used as a daily driver, aren't their harsh penalties if the lessor goes over a certain number of miles at the end of the lease?



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User currently onlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 31, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 27):
Looking at a Prius or the Audi S4.

You can't be serious. Prius and S4 in the same sentence?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):
Do leases still have mileage caps?

Yes, and they usually range anywhere from 10-15k miles per year.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 32, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):
aren't their harsh penalties if the lessor goes over a certain number of miles at the end of the lease?

Indeed there are, but some manufacturers like BMW let one buy milage. If you pre-buy, it is much cheaper than buying during one's lease.

However, if one drives a decent amount of miles a year (15K+) then it likely doesn't make sense, unless you're willing to pay up on the miles and let the manufacturer take the price hit.



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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

the CLA250 will have 4Matic available later on...i think next spring or so.

User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 32):
Indeed there are, but some manufacturers like BMW let one buy milage. If you pre-buy, it is much cheaper than buying during one's lease.

However, if one drives a decent amount of miles a year (15K+) then it likely doesn't make sense, unless you're willing to pay up on the miles and let the manufacturer take the price hit.

Yes most leases run 10,000-15,000 a year. If you really drive more than 15k a year as stated by Braniff..then dont lease.
However, if you are over within reason (say 1000-2500 over) and you re lease a new car (same make) they will likely forgive the overage.

Leases make sense with cars with high resale value. As the primary cost in a lease is the depreciation.

Some states really penalize lessee with high property taxes (TX). Texas also charges sales tax on the full price up front. California charges sales tax monthly on the payment.

[Edited 2013-09-15 17:40:24]

User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2438 posts, RR: 8
Reply 35, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 31):
You can't be serious. Prius and S4 in the same sentence?

LOL I am... I know it's crazy. I've been looking at both models for years now. I'm leaning towards the S4...a used one because I want the V8 in either the B6 or B7 chassis. I'm leaning towards the B6 more. I want to make it a kit car, a widebody with huge, wide 21" wheels and tires.



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 36, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 35):
I want to make it a kit car, a widebody with huge, wide 21" wheels and tires.

... and then use it to go shopping for groceries?



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2438 posts, RR: 8
Reply 37, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4343 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 36):

Yes.  . I cannot ride stock. Ok...I want to go to the track too...

[Edited 2013-09-16 04:19:04]


oh boy!!!
User currently offlineDucatiRacer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4238 times:
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Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 34):
high property taxes (TX)

That has not been the case here in years. There is no tax other than annual registration fees, payable to the county, just as one pays on any vehicle. The state does charge 6.25% sales tax up front, as you mention. However, you do get the trade-in offset when you trade the vehicle in, regardless of whether the replacement is purchased or leased. I have leased my last 4 BMWs, and have never done a lease return (although that process is easy should one choose to do it). Rather, I usually trade them in. BMW Financial Services allows the dealer to purchase the car at a much lower price than the residual value on the lease, as an incentive to let the dealer "help" get you out of that car and into another BMW. They also allow you to trade them in several months prior to the lease-end date without penalty.


User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 2103 posts, RR: 3
Reply 39, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 26):
If I go with a Benz or BMW I will likely do the European delivery program.. Save 7%.. If I do it will be a German built!

Not sure what the Benz European delivery cost is, but the BMW Munich pickup price is about $3k less than the US price on all 3 series BMWs. I priced out a trip to get a 328D and couldn't get the travel cost to make sense.

It would be a neat experience though!


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6617 posts, RR: 9
Reply 40, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4160 times:

If you import it, do you order it with US specs ?

Quoting DucatiRacer (Reply 38):
BMW Financial Services allows the dealer to purchase the car at a much lower price than the residual value on the lease

So you sell it for less than it is worth ?



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User currently offlineDucatiRacer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4146 times:
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 40):
So you sell it for less than it is worth ?

As the Lessee, you don't own it, really, BMW Financial Services does. Also, the residual stated in the lease is always quite a bit more "optimistic" than reality once the 3 years of the lease has passed. BMW Financial Services will require you to pay the residual if you want the car at the lease end. What they do, is allow you to effectively "buy" for less than its stated worth (i.e., the contractual residual value) so long as you are trading it in on a new BMW as part of the same transaction. So, what ends up being the case is that you would have to pay more than the car is worth if you want to keep it, but you can "buy" it for a discount and trade it for a new car. The result is often that you have a little "equity" in the trade. Usually, this process ends up with a couple of thousand dollars benefit towards the new car, as well as the savings on the sales tax. This is all particular to BMW Financial Services leases, and may not be true of other lease financier's plans. I once leased a 2004 Range Rover though USBank (at the time, Land Rover did not have any in-house lease financing). When that lease was nearing the end, it was right as gas prices were shooting up, the GFC was looming, and large SUV's were becoming Albatrosses in the used car market (late 2007ish), the bank contacted me and offered to sell it to me for just over half of the contract residual amount (they also offered to finance that purchase for nearly no interest, which is rare for used car loans). They clearly did not want to have to deal with liquidating it themselves. I jumped on that offer and we got another 2 years of use out of it and sold it on for a little more than I paid them for it.


User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 39):
Not sure what the Benz European delivery cost is, but the BMW Munich pickup price is about $3k less than the US price on all 3 series BMWs. I priced out a trip to get a 328D and couldn't get the travel cost to make sense.

Well when you fly for free! Its worth it! My issue is timing the whole thing, which may be more of a challenge. I also noticed that for the most part hey wont negotiate on the EU delivery. Its pretty much the price is the price.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 40):
If you import it, do you order it with US specs ?

Yes its a US car 100% its built just the way you want it!


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 43, posted (11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 42):
I also noticed that for the most part hey wont negotiate on the EU delivery

Definitely not; same thing when you order (generally): sticker is sticker.



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User currently offlinea321luke From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

No love for Cadillac on here?

http://www.maroccreators.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2013-Cadillac-ATS.jpg



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User currently onlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 923 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Thread starter):
Last night the lady and I Leased a 4 Door 2014 Mercedes C250. The black color looks pretty damn good. While it may not be the absolute best car out there, it's a great little vehicle for a secondary "beater" car that we will use to go to the gym, airport, store, etc.

Isn't this something people normally post on Facebook to their friends?

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 42):
Well when you fly for free! Its worth it! My issue is timing the whole thing, which may be more of a challenge. I also noticed that for the most part hey wont negotiate on the EU delivery. Its pretty much the price is the price.

Aren't you the one that started the thread about taking a loan from your 401k to pay off $5K of credit card debt? Maybe you need to get your priorities in order?

I saw a good quote a few months ago on a forgotten website--
Poor people stay poor by acting rich
Rich people stay rich by acting poor


User currently offlinea321luke From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

Quoting johns624 (Reply 45):
Isn't this something people normally post on Facebook to their friends?

This is the non-aviation section of the forum, so anything non-aviation is posted here.  



Planes, Trains, and Cars... Heaven :)
User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5473 posts, RR: 5
Reply 47, posted (11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 23):
Oh yea, $35-$37k is the normal starting price for a C class type car. The prices of cars in Europe are insane if you ask me

This is one of the things I dislike about living in Australia the most: the entry level price for a C200 here is about $65k.

I know, and totally appreciate, why the cost of living here is so high, but when I see figures like this it does make me really want to move abroad   



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User currently offlineasuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 48, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 15):

Pellegrine,

I believe the only way to get 4WD in a CLA (which is based on the B-class, not the C-class so FWD) is if you get yourself into the AMG45 version.

The CLA250 4MATIC is due out in the winter of 2014. Shortly after the CLA45 AMG 4MATIC is released.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 43):
Definitely not; same thing when you order (generally): sticker is sticker.

When you order a car via MB Euro Delivery you're actually purchasing the vehicle from MBUSA, and not directly from the franchised dealer. For most models you get the 7% discount but no incentive money being offered on current models. That can be a significant amount of money depending on the model.


User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 49, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

Funny that you Americans get a discount for picking up the car in Germany; for us EU residents a factory pick-up actually costs money - to the tune of around 1000 EUR. Unless you pick-up the new Porsche 918, in which case the charge is 6,500 EUR.


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User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

Well, I had to take the car back to the MB dealership today to fix the tire and scraped rim/wheel. The idiot in me backed over a curb and it cut the tire and scraped the wheel. I did purchase the tire/wheel package, which fixes it for "free" (paying for in the monthly payment". The story to Mercedes-Benz is that I hit something driving down the road (since that is covered)  .

They gave me a loaner, which I will have until the middle of next week. I opted to take the loaner vs take it back next week when the new wheel came in so that I could put the miles on their car and not mine.

Yours truly,

Idiot Driver Chris



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