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User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3526 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5068 times:
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They're getting ready to roll her upright next week. Need favorable weather conditions however...

http://www.theparbucklingproject.com.../43/Nota_sulla_fase_di_Parbuckling

Note: I have heard some news outlets saying that the ship will be "removed" next week. This is not the case - they will roll her upright, then install the starboard side sponsons prior to attempting to refloat her some time next year.

Wishing the salvagers at a little luck next week.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27032 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5008 times:

Indeed Im hoping that everything goes well and that minimal pollution is caused!

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3775 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

While most of the villagers will be happy to see her go and let the place regains its Mediterranean slow-paced peacefulness, some will miss the influx of tourist who came and spent money to see the remains of a disaster stricken ship.

It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19789 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

I've heard it described as the "monkey reflex." Primates (including humans) have an interesting tendency to run towards confusion and chaos, while all other animals flee. Exactly why that should be the case is unclear, but the fact remains that humans are fascinated by disaster.

I am very interested to see what the underwater side looks like once she is righted.


User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4712 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):

As I understand it we won't see much, if anything, of the hull. Just superstructure.

I also understand they're expecting the hull to deform at the bottom of the starboard side.



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User currently offlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
t's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

I would have an interest in seeing both, but I fully understand why people would want to go and see the ship and not really care for the village (some people aren't interested in seeing places, no matter how quaint). It's a salvage operation on a scale that has never been seen before, the engineering and physics behind it are very interesting. I would imagine that on the day they roll it there will be a huge influx of people watching, the same way that when a new bridge gets lifted in to place there's usually crowds of people watching. All of those people will have money in their pockets - that is the reward to the locals for putting up with the noise/mess/traffic/general disruption.



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User currently onlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7290 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

People outside of the initial area know about this village because...........
Certainely many tourist to the country will not have the village on their routes and it may still not be included, but since the entire world knows the name of the village because of the hulk sitting outside the harbour, they will make attempts to at least include a stop for a shot or two.
Bonus is the good time they can enjoy in the village unless the locals are already tired and jealous of the hulk, pride does play a part  


User currently offlinecurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):

While most of the villagers will be happy to see her go and let the place regains its Mediterranean slow-paced peacefulness, some will miss the influx of tourist who came and spent money to see the remains of a disaster stricken ship.

It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

While it is likely that the wreck attracts some morbid interest, I can assure you that Giglio Island doesn't need it for its economy. The place is stunning beautiful and has been packed with tourists since long before the accident occurred, its crystal-clear waters, peaceful environment, friendly locals and good food are enough of an attraction to keep the local economy going.
I have been there several times and I would recommend a visit to anyone. I have never been there after the Concordia ran aground, but the ship is perfectly visible if you fly overhead onboard a commercial flight, the view is very sobering and the wreck is just plain ugly. I can assure you all of the locals can't wait for it to be taken away and would gladly trade any pocket money they may have earned because of it for its removal.
I wish good luck to the recovery team for a successful operation on Monday and the rest of the work that's still ahead.



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User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4453 times:
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Parbuckling is on for tommorrow...

http://www.theparbucklingproject.com...KLING_OPERATIONS_TO_BEGIN_TOMORROW



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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

"WATCH LIVE: Costa Concordia salvage effort"
http://globalnews.ca/news/841426/sal...will-try-to-hoist-costa-concordia/



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 9):

I am watching the live feed here:
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

Seems to be going rather well.


     



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

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[Edited 2013-09-16 01:25:35]


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
Seems to be going rather well.

Its like watching paint dry......

I wish they could speed it up
 



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

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"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4251 times:

Has it moved yet ?   

Disappointing. No commentary, as to whats happening and explaining the processes at all ?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 14):
Has it moved yet ?

Disappointing. No commentary, as to whats happening and explaining the processes at all ?

I think it's lucky that we can get such a high quality uninterrupted live feed.

They say the whole operation will take 12 hours - I think they will get it done in less than that.

Article:

A TOXIC concoction of rotting food, chemicals and other debris is expected to spew out of the Costa Concordia when the giant cruise ship is hauled upright on Monday (local time).

Environmentalists fear the immaculate waters of Giglio, the Italian island where the ill-fated cruise liner sunk last January, could be contaminated thanks to the overwhelming amount of produce that was left to stew on the ship.

Trapped within the walls of the doomed liner are approximately 10,000kg of fish, 2500kg of cheese, 1500 gallons of ice cream in tubs, 10,000kg of pasta, 900kg of onions, more than 2000 pots of jam and nearly 17,000 tea bags, reports Britain’s The Telegraph.
.....

link:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/trav...ordia/story-e6frg8ro-1226719643133


       Wow!



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
They say the whole operation will take 12 hours - I think they will get it done in less than that.

Thank you.  
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
Trapped within the walls of the doomed liner are approximately 10,000kg of fish, 2500kg of cheese, 1500 gallons of ice cream in tubs, 10,000kg of pasta, 900kg of onions, more than 2000 pots of jam and nearly 17,000 tea bags, reports Britain’s The Telegraph.

              

Oh My God !

And some people are worried about the water pollution around Fukushima, with all that rotting slurry of water inside !   



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):

Oh My God !

And some people are worried about the water pollution around Fukushima, with all that rotting slurry of water inside !

This article is even better

Costa Concordia operation could spew toxic soup of rotting food and chemicals into sea
A toxic soup of rotting food, chemicals and other debris is expected to spew out of the Costa Concordia when the giant cruise ship is hauled upright tomorrow.

read more here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...g-food-and-chemicals-into-sea.html

 Wow!     Wow!



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3303 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

Ok, the live feed just switched to a press conference about Syria...    


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlinejanmnastami From Italy, joined Apr 2008, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

Live feeds:

http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...a-diretta-dal-giglio/139924/138460
www.repubblica.it

http://videochat.corriere.it/index_H2402.shtml?c=H24_2
www.corriere.it


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4207 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 18):
Ok, the live feed just switched to a press conference about Syria...

It's a 12 hours ordeal so they will be back.

I think RT (Russia Today) are providing the feed then La Stampa picked it up.

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWuIkdIByo

    

Live feed back on

Press conference: (giving my own translation picked up live)
the ship has now been detached from the rocks/bottom. They had it confirmed with the submarine cameras.
Engineer in chief said they saw the currents now going though the freed space between rock and ship. They noticed deformation on the hull/ship's structure.
He said all is going exactly according to plan with no pollution so far but also he said that anything can happen in the next hours so they are being very careful.

[Edited 2013-09-16 03:46:54]


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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4147 times:

Looks like there has been progress. Compare the images below to to the ones in reply 11. Looks like the waterline has risen on one side by two or three meters. Slow and steady! Good luck to the salvors.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/9771574011_39dccd33ba_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/9771868934_c6fcbea1b5_o.jpg

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
I think it's lucky that we can get such a high quality uninterrupted live feed.

   I'm very glad that there is a live feed. They didn't need to provide one, but having it is fascinating for us enthusiasts. I'll keep checking it during the evening

[Edited 2013-09-16 04:45:24]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 21):

I'm very glad that there is a live feed. They didn't need to provide one, but having it is fascinating for us enthusiasts. I'll keep checking it during the evening

I find it fascinating. It will be interesting to see what kind of results will be reached and if they will succeed getting the wreck back up without creating any pollution in the sea and environment.

It seems they have got teams from several countries working on this salvage. CC looks in really bad shape.

They had gigantic thunderstorms in the area last night, all the way down to Sicily where it was even worse with tornados even.

 Wow!      



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27032 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 21):
Compare the images below to to the ones in reply 11. Looks like the waterline has risen on one side by two or three meters. Slow and steady! Good luck to the salvors.

Seeing that shot of the pool and hot tubs like that is weird.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

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There are workers going inside the structure as they pull it out of the water.

 Wow!



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25 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : [/URL]
30 Bongodog1964 : I would be surprised if they were entering the structure whilst it is moving. as the ship rights the contents will move and could easily trap anyone
31 na : Amazing. But its already half through the 10-12 hours they calculated for raising it and its just about 4 meters out of the water. Wonder if it goes f
32 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I was sort of thinking the same. Looks like it will take much longer than 12 hours to have the wreck back up. I wonder if they will work at night. Th
33 Post contains images curlyheadboy : A MICOPERI engineer has been just interviewed on this topic just a while ago: They said when they reach 20° of rotation the process will speed up, a
34 na : 12 was a hypothesis, if it takes 15 or 18 its still fine, they are just saying. Weather will deteriorate soon though wont be a big problem.
35 MadameConcorde : Press conference: my translation as it goes live: The chief engineer said they will not m ind if it takes 18 hours for as long as the work is done pro
36 Aesma : It's not just the weight of the ship, the caissons are filled with water at the moment, helping the righting.
37 Bongodog1964 : The most difficult part was the initial lift, the explanation given on the BBC was that after the initial lift they had reduced the pressure on the wi
38 Post contains images CPH-R : If definantly appears to have sped up a bit. Just in the past 10 mins or so, the antenna to the right of the radome has more or less disappeared out o
39 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Live Parbuckling Costa Concordia: prove tecniche di trasmissione Live feed interruption because of technical glitches? http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/
40 Post contains images CPH-R : Hilarious press conference going on at the moment. The two engineers(?) are lambasting the media for only focusing on the negatives and questioning th
41 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Yes I heard this. This live feed is working. http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/139924/138460?ref=HREA-1 They said they can keep workin
42 IADCA : Yes. Multiple sources say it will be scrapped. The ship's been sitting on its side in seawater for 21 months. Can you imagine trying to get anyone to
43 Post contains images MadameConcorde : This recoop is a very complex and ambitious project. It is fascinating to be able to follow it live. It will probably take a good part of the night to
44 Post contains images CPH-R : Definantly on the move now. Not fast, but decent progress has been made in the past hour and a bit, with the radome slowly moving out of the picture a
45 curlyheadboy : The large radome on the right is gone. I was wondering why they didn't recover the antennas and the other equipment which didn't get submerged, they
46 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Structure about 9.00 PM local time Giglio
47 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Giglio 21h40 local time
48 zanl188 : I understand it's considered a crime scene. Salvagers & rescuers didn't touch anything unless they had to.
49 TheCommodore : I think most will be a write off. Its been subjected all sorts of environs, heat, humidity etc ...
50 cjg225 : Fascinating stuff. Crowley Maritime's Facebook account has been providing updates all day. They are one of the more active transportation service prov
51 Post contains links and images KFLLCFII : Not too much more.
52 Post contains images DeltaMD90 : Just like with airliners, it's always sad to see a fine piece of machinery ruined like that
53 Post contains links cjg225 : Gotta love the media... On another note, this feed is still running, fortunately. Very cool stuff. http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/1
54 Post contains images TheRedBaron : Fukushima will pollute the whole Pacific... another scale... This Ship will look like Harvey 2 faces when they finish..LOL TRB
55 WarRI1 : An amazing sight, a great accomplishment so far.
56 NoUFO : Looks pretty much upright now but as damaged as the starboard side is, it will probably be difficult to mount the floats. Anyway, they did a great job
57 Post contains links and images KFLLCFII : Looks vertical from here.
58 KFLLCFII : And now a press conference full of applause...
59 Post contains images Jetsgo : Wow
60 MadameConcorde : I am up and the first thing I did was to go on the live feed. I can't believe what I am seeing. Holy Moses! This is unreal. First of all congrats to t
61 Post contains images OA260 : Some pictures showing the extent of the damage. .
62 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Collecting screen shots of the Stampa live feed. Same I was on all yesterday. I will post my screen shots with questions later. There will be plenty
63 lapper : Around the 15/16 second mark it looks like they had a few of the cables break. Bet that caused a few worries if that was the case!
64 L410Turbolet : The ship is now floating with waterline only few meters below the bridge... is this how they plan to transport it, i.e. similar to how Kurs was moved
65 Bongodog1964 : I would doubt that its floating, at the very least they would need to pump all the water out and there is so much debris the resulting pollution woul
66 zanl188 : It is not floating. Salvage team will install flotation sponsors on the starboard side before towing the ship away next year.
67 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : This is what I gathered from this mornings press conference in my own translation - i am fairly fluent in Italian - did for as best as I can cost for
68 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : More time lapse videos - these are incredible and with much detail Time lapse 1 http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/c...-giornata/140172/138707?ref=HRE
69 Post contains links OA260 : The Costa Concordia capsized in January 2012, killing 32 people. The bodies of two of the victims of the disaster, by the island of Giglio, have never
70 Post contains images MadameConcorde : There is a new press conference with NIck Sloane chief of Costa Concordia selvage operations. The sound is really bad and there is a mix-up the simult
71 OA260 : Yes that is correct it has been reported on Sky News and BBC. The interiors will be stripped out as much as possible to reduce the weight when towing
72 Post contains links MadameConcorde : (google translation) The parbuckling of Concordia is the largest restoration project in the history of shipbuilding for the size of the wreck (289 met
73 MD11Engineer : I doubt that they will find much. After 1 1/2 years in the sea the various critters will have had a go and I don´t think anything will be left over.
74 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : The structure as seen from the island http://www3.lastampa.it/fileadmin/minisiti/giglio/index.htm Giglio looks like a lovely place Edited I just found
75 Post contains links KFLLCFII : Photos: Raising the Concordia
76 Post contains images DocLightning : Those are the kind we like. Well done, salvagers! That was my same thought about the food. It's either in watertight fridges, in which case I don't w
77 cmf : What about bones?
78 OA260 : Yes there is that. Its possible that after several years in seas that they can still recover and identify these.
79 DocLightning : Depends. I know that saltwater starts to leach the calcium out, but calcium phosphate is pretty water insoluble (oddly, given that it's an ionic salt
80 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Live webcam from Giglio with a panoramic view on CC Now that the structure is back up the work continues. http://www3.lastampa.it/fileadmin/minisiti/g
86 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : RIP Costa Concordia victims
87 neutrino : Thank you Madame and other posters for all the information, updates, photos and links. The operation is truly impressive and inspiring. Thumbs up to t
88 Post contains images DocLightning : I was going to say I'm surprised it appears to be in such good shape after immersion for 18 months. There is only some staining. The major damage app
89 Post contains links NoUFO : A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship. http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...ing-of-the-costa-concordia/100592/
90 Aesma : From what I understand the ship is settled on a platform they built before the righting, she isn't floating. As for debris while floating her by pumpi
91 DocLightning : Correct. They built a platform on which the ship would rest once righted. Fortunately, most passenger ships built today have flat bottoms. The interi
92 DeltaMD90 : Yeah I was about to say. I don't know if it's just me but photos like that creep me out. Love cruises and all but the ocean can be pretty freaky...
93 cjg225 : The fifth picture, from behind the ship at night, is actually very pretty, in a way. Almost like it's a painting.
94 WarRI1 : Great shots, especially inside the ship. Thank You.
95 DocLightning : And sad. As you said. It hurts to see a beautiful piece of machinery just ruined. I'm almost as passionate about ships as I am about airliners. The s
96 type-rated : The photographer was a master in his understanding of photographic lighting. Very beautiful photos. I wonder what they will do to the Captain?
97 na : Wow, thanks for the link!
98 cjg225 : I kept forgetting to post this. Discovery Channel has a 1-hour special currently showing regarding the recovery operation.
99 OA260 : Sky News reporting that human remains have been found at the wreck. news.sky.com
100 DocLightning : Ugh. Probably not much left. They'll probably identify by dental records. At least it will bring some closure to the families, for what it's worth.
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