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Costa Concordia Update  
User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4894 times:
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They're getting ready to roll her upright next week. Need favorable weather conditions however...

http://www.theparbucklingproject.com.../43/Nota_sulla_fase_di_Parbuckling

Note: I have heard some news outlets saying that the ship will be "removed" next week. This is not the case - they will roll her upright, then install the starboard side sponsons prior to attempting to refloat her some time next year.

Wishing the salvagers at a little luck next week.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

Indeed Im hoping that everything goes well and that minimal pollution is caused!

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3738 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

While most of the villagers will be happy to see her go and let the place regains its Mediterranean slow-paced peacefulness, some will miss the influx of tourist who came and spent money to see the remains of a disaster stricken ship.

It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

I've heard it described as the "monkey reflex." Primates (including humans) have an interesting tendency to run towards confusion and chaos, while all other animals flee. Exactly why that should be the case is unclear, but the fact remains that humans are fascinated by disaster.

I am very interested to see what the underwater side looks like once she is righted.


User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4538 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):

As I understand it we won't see much, if anything, of the hull. Just superstructure.

I also understand they're expecting the hull to deform at the bottom of the starboard side.



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User currently onlinebristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
t's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

I would have an interest in seeing both, but I fully understand why people would want to go and see the ship and not really care for the village (some people aren't interested in seeing places, no matter how quaint). It's a salvage operation on a scale that has never been seen before, the engineering and physics behind it are very interesting. I would imagine that on the day they roll it there will be a huge influx of people watching, the same way that when a new bridge gets lifted in to place there's usually crowds of people watching. All of those people will have money in their pockets - that is the reward to the locals for putting up with the noise/mess/traffic/general disruption.



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User currently onlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7065 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

People outside of the initial area know about this village because...........
Certainely many tourist to the country will not have the village on their routes and it may still not be included, but since the entire world knows the name of the village because of the hulk sitting outside the harbour, they will make attempts to at least include a stop for a shot or two.
Bonus is the good time they can enjoy in the village unless the locals are already tired and jealous of the hulk, pride does play a part  


User currently offlinecurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):

While most of the villagers will be happy to see her go and let the place regains its Mediterranean slow-paced peacefulness, some will miss the influx of tourist who came and spent money to see the remains of a disaster stricken ship.

It's sad to think people would go there to see that rather than the village itself, but at least the local economy did profit.

While it is likely that the wreck attracts some morbid interest, I can assure you that Giglio Island doesn't need it for its economy. The place is stunning beautiful and has been packed with tourists since long before the accident occurred, its crystal-clear waters, peaceful environment, friendly locals and good food are enough of an attraction to keep the local economy going.
I have been there several times and I would recommend a visit to anyone. I have never been there after the Concordia ran aground, but the ship is perfectly visible if you fly overhead onboard a commercial flight, the view is very sobering and the wreck is just plain ugly. I can assure you all of the locals can't wait for it to be taken away and would gladly trade any pocket money they may have earned because of it for its removal.
I wish good luck to the recovery team for a successful operation on Monday and the rest of the work that's still ahead.



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User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4279 times:
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Parbuckling is on for tommorrow...

http://www.theparbucklingproject.com...KLING_OPERATIONS_TO_BEGIN_TOMORROW



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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

"WATCH LIVE: Costa Concordia salvage effort"
http://globalnews.ca/news/841426/sal...will-try-to-hoist-costa-concordia/



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 9):

I am watching the live feed here:
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

Seems to be going rather well.


     



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

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"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2747 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
Seems to be going rather well.

Its like watching paint dry......

I wish they could speed it up
 



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

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"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2747 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

Has it moved yet ?   

Disappointing. No commentary, as to whats happening and explaining the processes at all ?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 14):
Has it moved yet ?

Disappointing. No commentary, as to whats happening and explaining the processes at all ?

I think it's lucky that we can get such a high quality uninterrupted live feed.

They say the whole operation will take 12 hours - I think they will get it done in less than that.

Article:

A TOXIC concoction of rotting food, chemicals and other debris is expected to spew out of the Costa Concordia when the giant cruise ship is hauled upright on Monday (local time).

Environmentalists fear the immaculate waters of Giglio, the Italian island where the ill-fated cruise liner sunk last January, could be contaminated thanks to the overwhelming amount of produce that was left to stew on the ship.

Trapped within the walls of the doomed liner are approximately 10,000kg of fish, 2500kg of cheese, 1500 gallons of ice cream in tubs, 10,000kg of pasta, 900kg of onions, more than 2000 pots of jam and nearly 17,000 tea bags, reports Britain’s The Telegraph.
.....

link:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/trav...ordia/story-e6frg8ro-1226719643133


       Wow!



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2747 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4071 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
They say the whole operation will take 12 hours - I think they will get it done in less than that.

Thank you.  
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
Trapped within the walls of the doomed liner are approximately 10,000kg of fish, 2500kg of cheese, 1500 gallons of ice cream in tubs, 10,000kg of pasta, 900kg of onions, more than 2000 pots of jam and nearly 17,000 tea bags, reports Britain’s The Telegraph.

              

Oh My God !

And some people are worried about the water pollution around Fukushima, with all that rotting slurry of water inside !   



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):

Oh My God !

And some people are worried about the water pollution around Fukushima, with all that rotting slurry of water inside !

This article is even better

Costa Concordia operation could spew toxic soup of rotting food and chemicals into sea
A toxic soup of rotting food, chemicals and other debris is expected to spew out of the Costa Concordia when the giant cruise ship is hauled upright tomorrow.

read more here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...g-food-and-chemicals-into-sea.html

 Wow!     Wow!



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Ok, the live feed just switched to a press conference about Syria...    


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlinejanmnastami From Italy, joined Apr 2008, 827 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

Live feeds:

http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...a-diretta-dal-giglio/139924/138460
www.repubblica.it

http://videochat.corriere.it/index_H2402.shtml?c=H24_2
www.corriere.it


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 18):
Ok, the live feed just switched to a press conference about Syria...

It's a 12 hours ordeal so they will be back.

I think RT (Russia Today) are providing the feed then La Stampa picked it up.

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWuIkdIByo

    

Live feed back on

Press conference: (giving my own translation picked up live)
the ship has now been detached from the rocks/bottom. They had it confirmed with the submarine cameras.
Engineer in chief said they saw the currents now going though the freed space between rock and ship. They noticed deformation on the hull/ship's structure.
He said all is going exactly according to plan with no pollution so far but also he said that anything can happen in the next hours so they are being very careful.

[Edited 2013-09-16 03:46:54]


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User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Looks like there has been progress. Compare the images below to to the ones in reply 11. Looks like the waterline has risen on one side by two or three meters. Slow and steady! Good luck to the salvors.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/9771574011_39dccd33ba_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/9771868934_c6fcbea1b5_o.jpg

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
I think it's lucky that we can get such a high quality uninterrupted live feed.

   I'm very glad that there is a live feed. They didn't need to provide one, but having it is fascinating for us enthusiasts. I'll keep checking it during the evening

[Edited 2013-09-16 04:45:24]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 21):

I'm very glad that there is a live feed. They didn't need to provide one, but having it is fascinating for us enthusiasts. I'll keep checking it during the evening

I find it fascinating. It will be interesting to see what kind of results will be reached and if they will succeed getting the wreck back up without creating any pollution in the sea and environment.

It seems they have got teams from several countries working on this salvage. CC looks in really bad shape.

They had gigantic thunderstorms in the area last night, all the way down to Sicily where it was even worse with tornados even.

 Wow!      



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 21):
Compare the images below to to the ones in reply 11. Looks like the waterline has risen on one side by two or three meters. Slow and steady! Good luck to the salvors.

Seeing that shot of the pool and hot tubs like that is weird.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 24, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

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There are workers going inside the structure as they pull it out of the water.

 Wow!



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 25, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

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There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 26, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

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There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 27, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

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There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 28, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

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There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 29, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4066 times:

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There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 30, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 24):
There are workers going inside the structure as they pull it out of the water.

I would be surprised if they were entering the structure whilst it is moving. as the ship rights the contents will move and could easily trap anyone who was inside. More likely that they are positioning fenders to stop debris escaping.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 31, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Amazing.

But its already half through the 10-12 hours they calculated for raising it and its just about 4 meters out of the water. Wonder if it goes faster the more they turn her.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 32, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4046 times:

Quoting na (Reply 31):

But its already half through the 10-12 hours they calculated for raising it and its just about 4 meters out of the water. Wonder if it goes faster the more they turn her.

I was sort of thinking the same.

Looks like it will take much longer than 12 hours to have the wreck back up. I wonder if they will work at night. The weather looks good unlike yesterday and last night with the mega storms.

If they all go home with the work half-done they could end up with some surprises so I guess they will have to keep working until the wreck is back up.


 Wow!     



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User currently offlinecurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 33, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 32):
Quoting na (Reply 31):

But its already half through the 10-12 hours they calculated for raising it and its just about 4 meters out of the water. Wonder if it goes faster the more they turn her.

I was sort of thinking the same.

Looks like it will take much longer than 12 hours to have the wreck back up. I wonder if they will work at night. The weather looks good unlike yesterday and last night with the mega storms.

If they all go home with the work half-done they could end up with some surprises so I guess they will have to keep working until the wreck is back up.

A MICOPERI engineer has been just interviewed on this topic just a while ago:
They said when they reach 20° of rotation the process will speed up, as the ship will start to "drop" under her own weight, they said they expect to be finished at around dusk.
Wish them good luck!  



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 34, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

12 was a hypothesis, if it takes 15 or 18 its still fine, they are just saying. Weather will deteriorate soon though wont be a big problem.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 35, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Press conference:
my translation as it goes live:
The chief engineer said they will not m ind if it takes 18 hours for as long as the work is done properly. They have equipments and lights to work 24/24 and they can work even without lights if necessary.
Also they said they are ready and able to work in any weather condition and the weather is not a factor. He sees no elements that could be of worry, they are watching everything closely yet they don't see any reasons to worry.Everything is going exactly as planned.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6530 posts, RR: 9
Reply 36, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

It's not just the weight of the ship, the caissons are filled with water at the moment, helping the righting.


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 37, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

The most difficult part was the initial lift, the explanation given on the BBC was that after the initial lift they had reduced the pressure on the winches as they wish to limit the amount of distortion on the hull. They could proceed much quicker, but its better to do so slowly. Additional factors include the water trapped in the ship which will move as she rights, too quickly and this could wash a big heap of debris out into the sea. With regard to the caissons they will help the righting, but I assume that they will only be filled gradually as the ship is lifted, in the early stages they would be more of a hindrance than a help if full.

Its all looking good so far, the first 4 metres or so doesn't look that impressive, but the next 4 will take it a long way over.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 38, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

If definantly appears to have sped up a bit. Just in the past 10 mins or so, the antenna to the right of the radome has more or less disappeared out of sight.



User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 39, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

Live Parbuckling Costa Concordia: prove tecniche di trasmissione

Live feed interruption because of technical glitches?

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

    Wow!



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 40, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Hilarious press conference going on at the moment. The two engineers(?) are lambasting the media for only focusing on the negatives and questioning them over why they had a backup plan in place for some issue, when they could at least admit appreciate that a backup plan was in place in the first place  .

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 41, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 40):

Yes I heard this.
This live feed is working.
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/139924/138460?ref=HREA-1

They said they can keep working in the dark even without much light and they will go all night if necessary. They don't want to hurry the work. All is going according to plan they said.

Been very interesting to watch all along since they started this morning.
This will be a success.

Will they sell the structure for metal?
I can't see this being reconverted and sailed again.

 Wow!  



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User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1256 posts, RR: 8
Reply 42, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 41):
Will they sell the structure for metal?

Yes. Multiple sources say it will be scrapped. The ship's been sitting on its side in seawater for 21 months. Can you imagine trying to get anyone to insure a refloated version of that?


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 43, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

This recoop is a very complex and ambitious project. It is fascinating to be able to follow it live.

It will probably take a good part of the night to have the structure back up. A lot of hard work.
They said that 8 people went inside to do something about the caissons and all went as wanted.

Going slowly but surely. i wish them total success.

        



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 44, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Definantly on the move now. Not fast, but decent progress has been made in the past hour and a bit, with the radome slowly moving out of the picture as well.


User currently offlinecurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 45, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 44):
Definantly on the move now. Not fast, but decent progress has been made in the past hour and a bit, with the radome slowly moving out of the picture as well.

The large radome on the right is gone. I was wondering why they didn't recover the antennas and the other equipment which didn't get submerged, they should have some value, the ship was relatively new...

Some highlights from the last press conference:

- They hope to be finished before sunrise tomorrow, yet they don't know
- Weather will get worse, they are not worried
- Darkness not an issue as well
- They had a problem when 4 cables got tangled when losing tension, they sent some crews onboard and re-aligned them. This caused the rotation to be stopped for 1 hour
- everything's looking fine so far.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 46, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC10_zps30321be7.jpg

Structure about 9.00 PM local time Giglio



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 47, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC11_zps61fa466c.jpg

Giglio 21h40 local time



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User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3605 times:
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Quoting curlyheadboy (Reply 45):

I understand it's considered a crime scene. Salvagers & rescuers didn't touch anything unless they had to.



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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2747 posts, RR: 8
Reply 49, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

Quoting curlyheadboy (Reply 45):
I was wondering why they didn't recover the antennas and the other equipment which didn't get submerged, they should have some value, the ship was relatively new...

I think most will be a write off. Its been subjected all sorts of environs, heat, humidity etc ...



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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Fascinating stuff.

Crowley Maritime's Facebook account has been providing updates all day. They are one of the more active transportation service providers on Facebook, and I like that.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 51, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3457 times:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/885/rll3.jpg


Not too much more.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7830 posts, RR: 52
Reply 52, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3452 times:

Just like with airliners, it's always sad to see a fine piece of machinery ruined like that  


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 40):
Hilarious press conference going on at the moment. The two engineers(?) are lambasting the media for only focusing on the negatives and questioning them over why they had a backup plan in place for some issue, when they could at least admit appreciate that a backup plan was in place in the first place .

Gotta love the media...

On another note, this feed is still running, fortunately. Very cool stuff. http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/139924/138460?ref=HREA-1



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User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2191 posts, RR: 8
Reply 54, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):
Oh My God !

And some people are worried about the water pollution around Fukushima, with all that rotting slurry of water inside !   

   Fukushima will pollute the whole Pacific... another scale...

This Ship will look like Harvey 2 faces when they finish..LOL

TRB



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8845 posts, RR: 10
Reply 55, posted (10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

An amazing sight, a great accomplishment so far.


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 56, posted (10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Looks pretty much upright now but as damaged as the starboard side is, it will probably be difficult to mount the floats.
Anyway, they did a great job so far.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 57, posted (10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3969/sryf.jpg

Looks vertical from here.



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 58, posted (10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

And now a press conference full of applause...


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineJetsgo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3080 posts, RR: 5
Reply 59, posted (10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3347 times:



Wow   



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 60, posted (10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

I am up and the first thing I did was to go on the live feed.

I can't believe what I am seeing. Holy Moses! This is unreal. First of all congrats to the whole team for getting this monstrous thing back up straight in the water.

What a sight! Undescribable!!!!!

They should really send the bill to Schettino and make him pay for what he has done.

I must get myself some screen shots before they end the live feed.


 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 61, posted (10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Some pictures showing the extent of the damage.


.



User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 62, posted (10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 61):
Some pictures showing the extent of the damage.

Collecting screen shots of the Stampa live feed. Same I was on all yesterday. I will post my screen shots with questions later. There will be plenty of time for it.

This is frigging unreal.

I wonder how they are going to tow this monster out of the area and how much pollution it has created - not talking about blocking the island.

Link for those who want to watch:
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

Edited:
There is even a time lapse video

http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/17/mu...phfnFFLTcSZRAQ2fCKPXDO/pagina.html


   Wow!    Wow!    Wow!  

[Edited 2013-09-17 00:25:46]


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User currently offlinelapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 63, posted (10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 62):
There is even a time lapse video

Around the 15/16 second mark it looks like they had a few of the cables break. Bet that caused a few worries if that was the case!  Wow!


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5680 posts, RR: 19
Reply 64, posted (10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

The ship is now floating with waterline only few meters below the bridge... is this how they plan to transport it, i.e. similar to how Kurs was moved to the dry dock, or are they planning to lift it further above the water?

User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 65, posted (10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 64):
The ship is now floating with waterline only few meters below the bridge... is this how they plan to transport it, i.e. similar to how Kurs was moved to the dry dock, or are they planning to lift it further above the water?

I would doubt that its floating, at the very least they would need to pump all the water out and there is so much debris the resulting pollution would be horrendous, plus there has been no sign of any pumping. By welding on the caissons they can use the bouyancy in these to counteract the water in the hull and then deal with the polluted water at the destination

Comments have been made about the state of the ship on the side that was below water, we are seeing the superstructure which will be very lightly constructed in order to reduce topweight, hardly suprising that it has deformed, another comment regarded the difficulty of attaching caissons to this, they will be attached as with the other side to the hull which is far stronger and presently below water.


User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3049 times:
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Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 64):

It is not floating. Salvage team will install flotation sponsors on the starboard side before towing the ship away next year.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 67, posted (10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

This is what I gathered from this mornings press conference in my own translation - i am fairly fluent in Italian - did for as best as I can

cost for ship selvage alone 600 Million Euros but will go up - not all will be covered by insurance
not counting the cost of the ship itself in these figures

what is essential is to give back the environment the same as they found it when they came in with the ship

the most complex part of the operation was to bring the ship back up straight in the water
all the phases to follow will also be complicated but raising the ship was the most comple operation

they are estimating the move of hte ship will happen at some point during the first semester of next year
until then they will make sure that ship will stand straight and secure during the bad months of the Winter

For the move, all will depend on port of destination which they don't know yet and will be determined at a later time

ship is 2/3 under water and 1/3 above water - they said 30 meters under water and 20 meters above

a complete inspection of the ship will be undertaken at least for sfe zones at first - the public will be informed day by day but first they will inform all the concerned parties including government authorities

ship has 1500 cabins (approx) everything will be recooped in each one of the cabins and brought back to surface (including passengers belongings) whenever access to the cabins will be cleared and authorized - each cabin content will be returned to owners

there is no final forecast for the budget of operation - insurance will not cover in full - but they will pay what ever is required to be paid

the priority will be given to safety of operation and keeping the environment the same as it was when they arrived with the ship

other large ships have been selvaged before but this is considered to be a truly unique operation due to the ship's size and also the fact that this is a passenger ship and very complex to rotate and bring back up straight - not piece by piece but as a whole

everything will be done in accordance with the local government authority especially concerning access to the structure it will have to be authorized in every aspect

the priority is now to assure the security of the ship and to make sure the environment does not get damaged

     

Link to live feed

La Reppublica
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/139924/138460?ref=HREA-1

La STampa (better quality image)
http://www.lastampa.it/2013/09/16/mu...1A92PwKYZht9cxH8nBlGjL/pagina.html

 airplane   alert 

[Edited 2013-09-17 03:12:26]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 68, posted (10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

More time lapse videos - these are incredible and with much detail

Time lapse 1
http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/c...-giornata/140172/138707?ref=HREA-1

Time lapse 2
http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/c...ore-in-50/140197/138732?ref=HREA-1

Time lapse 3 - the last hour of rotating the ship in 30 seconds
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...one-in-30/140185/138720?ref=HREA-1

        


Pictures - Costa Concordia before and after
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...terattivo/140219/138754?ref=HREA-1

The ship's recoop as seen from nder water (control room)
http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/c...ott-acqua/140175/138710?ref=HREA-1

Rick Sloane the new hero of Giglio
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...el-giglio/140186/138721?ref=HREA-1

Ship's damaged side video
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...concordia/140195/138730?ref=HREA-1

photos:
http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca...nneggiato-66697781/1/?ref=HREA-1#1

Giglio beer party
http://video.repubblica.it/edizione/...a-a-birra/140189/138724?ref=HREA-1

        



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 69, posted (10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

The Costa Concordia capsized in January 2012, killing 32 people.

The bodies of two of the victims of the disaster, by the island of Giglio, have never been found. There are hopes that they may be located during the operation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24121480

I really hope they find the two bodies which is equally as important as the whole operation IMHO ! Give their loved ones some closure.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 70, posted (10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

There is a new press conference with NIck Sloane chief of Costa Concordia selvage operations.
The sound is really bad and there is a mix-up the simultaneous translation at same sound level than original along with constant beeping.

I will see whatever I can pick up but it's very confusing. Can hear hardly anything.
I am sure it will be posted in the press/blogs later on.

He said ship will not be ready for towing until Spring they will need all Winter to apply all the various engineering procedures.

500 workers from 26 nationalities and languages.
Number one task will be securing the ship for the Winter then building the materials necessary to bring ship up floating this will be done in two different phases.

 Wow!

[Edited 2013-09-17 05:57:04]


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 71, posted (10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 70):
He said ship will not be ready for towing until Spring they will need all Winter to apply all the various engineering procedures.

Yes that is correct it has been reported on Sky News and BBC. The interiors will be stripped out as much as possible to reduce the weight when towing.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 72, posted (10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

(google translation)

The parbuckling of Concordia is the largest restoration project in the history of shipbuilding for the size of the wreck (289 meters long, 35 wide, 114 gross tons) and the context in which it is situato.Il parbuckling of Concordia is the greatest work of recovery in naval history for the size of the wreck (289 meters long, 35 wide, 114 gross tons) and the context in which it is located.

From the part of the earth has been created a system of 11 towers anchored to the seabed through the submerged elements that lead each hydraulic jack recovery of the rope for a total of 22. Each cylinder is controlled by land and has the function of pulling and retrieve the cable shortening and putting in tension the chain that will result in the movement of the hull.

http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca...ra_montanari-66574107/?ref=HRER3-1

http://video.corriere.it/concordia-e...5d0bb0-1f01-11e3-808f-8b9926394b81

[Edited 2013-09-17 07:04:03]


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13968 posts, RR: 63
Reply 73, posted (10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 69):
The bodies of two of the victims of the disaster, by the island of Giglio, have never been found. There are hopes that they may be located during the operation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...21480

I doubt that they will find much. After 1 1/2 years in the sea the various critters will have had a go and I don´t think anything will be left over.

Jan


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 74, posted (10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

The structure as seen from the island

http://www3.lastampa.it/fileadmin/minisiti/giglio/index.htm

Giglio looks like a lovely place

 

Edited

I just found this amazing satellite view of Giglio and the ship wreck

http://image-cnes.fr/wp-content/uplo...rdia_juillet2013_pl%C3%A9iades.jpg

 Sad

[Edited 2013-09-17 08:04:01]


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 75, posted (10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Photos: Raising the Concordia


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 76, posted (10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 58):
And now a press conference full of applause...

Those are the kind we like.   Well done, salvagers!

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 73):
I doubt that they will find much. After 1 1/2 years in the sea the various critters will have had a go and I don´t think anything will be left over.

That was my same thought about the food. It's either in watertight fridges, in which case I don't want to be around when they open them, or the fridges opened, in which case, the local marine wildlife had a feast.


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 77, posted (10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 73):
I doubt that they will find much. After 1 1/2 years in the sea the various critters will have had a go and I don´t think anything will be left over.

What about bones?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 78, posted (10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 73):
After 1 1/2 years in the sea the various critters will have had a go and I don´t think anything will be left over.
Quoting cmf (Reply 77):
What about bones?

Yes there is that. Its possible that after several years in seas that they can still recover and identify these.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 79, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 77):
What about bones?

Depends. I know that saltwater starts to leach the calcium out, but calcium phosphate is pretty water insoluble (oddly, given that it's an ionic salt) and so the bones can last a long time.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 80, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Live webcam from Giglio with a panoramic view on CC

Now that the structure is back up the work continues.

http://www3.lastampa.it/fileadmin/minisiti/giglio/index.htm

 



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 81, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC27_zpsca627af2.jpg


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 82, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC28_zps58b1f452.jpg


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 83, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC31_zpsce563175.jpg


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 84, posted (10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC32_zps14341954.jpg


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 85, posted (10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2726 times:




There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10889 posts, RR: 37
Reply 86, posted (10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/parisquilts/forums2/CC35_zpsb44db085.jpg

RIP Costa Concordia victims

  



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User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Thank you Madame and other posters for all the information, updates, photos and links.
The operation is truly impressive and inspiring. Thumbs up to the salvage team.
And in addition to the victims, may the Costa Concordia also RIP(soon).



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 88, posted (10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2543 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 65):
Comments have been made about the state of the ship on the side that was below water, we are seeing the superstructure which will be very lightly constructed in order to reduce topweight, hardly suprising that it has deformed, another comment regarded the difficulty of attaching caissons to this, they will be attached as with the other side to the hull which is far stronger and presently below water.

I was going to say I'm surprised it appears to be in such good shape after immersion for 18 months. There is only some staining.

The major damage appears to be more to the balconies than the actual exterior sidewalls of the superstructure itself, which look only mildly deformed. Even some of the windows in the damaged areas are still intact.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 52):
Just like with airliners, it's always sad to see a fine piece of machinery ruined like that  

  

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 49):
I think most will be a write off. Its been subjected all sorts of environs, heat, humidity etc ...

Not only that, but it was sitting on two different rock ridges (as evidenced by the two areas of smushed balconies), which put a constant lateral strain on the keel. The keel isn't designed to support that kind of weight from that direction for so long and may have been weakened by it. Ships damaged worse and immersed for longer have been returned to service (some of the liners sunk as troopships in WWI and II, for example), but this ship is clearly a goner. Besides, even renamed and operating for a different cruise line it would be hard to hide the fact that this is the former Costa Concordia, which would almost certainly affect bookings.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 89, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...ing-of-the-costa-concordia/100592/



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6530 posts, RR: 9
Reply 90, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

From what I understand the ship is settled on a platform they built before the righting, she isn't floating.

As for debris while floating her by pumping the water out of the caissons (once they've attached them on the other side), I'd say it's better to do it there in a controlled environment, using nets all around the wreck, than moving the ship in that state, letting a trail of debris behind.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 91, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 90):
From what I understand the ship is settled on a platform they built before the righting, she isn't floating.

Correct. They built a platform on which the ship would rest once righted. Fortunately, most passenger ships built today have flat bottoms.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 89):
A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship.

The interior shots are pretty wild.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7830 posts, RR: 52
Reply 92, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2204 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 91):
Quoting NoUFO (Reply 89):
A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship.

The interior shots are pretty wild.

Yeah I was about to say. I don't know if it's just me but photos like that creep me out. Love cruises and all but the ocean can be pretty freaky...



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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2183 times:

The fifth picture, from behind the ship at night, is actually very pretty, in a way. Almost like it's a painting.


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8845 posts, RR: 10
Reply 94, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 89):
A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...0592/

Great shots, especially inside the ship. Thank You.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 95, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 92):
Yeah I was about to say. I don't know if it's just me but photos like that creep me out. Love cruises and all but the ocean can be pretty freaky...

And sad. As you said. It hurts to see a beautiful piece of machinery just ruined. I'm almost as passionate about ships as I am about airliners.

The shot in the atrium where you can see down several floors. That must have been incredible to surface in that space. The elevator is visible, too. Frozen where it was last used.

It would be a lot less creepy to look at those pics if 32 people hadn't died, though.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4950 posts, RR: 19
Reply 96, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

The photographer was a master in his understanding of photographic lighting. Very beautiful photos. I wonder what they will do to the Captain?


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 97, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 89):
A great set of photos from the initial disaster to the righting of the ship.

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...ing-of-the-costa-concordia/100592/

Wow, thanks for the link!


User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

I kept forgetting to post this.

Discovery Channel has a 1-hour special currently showing regarding the recovery operation.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 99, posted (10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Sky News reporting that human remains have been found at the wreck.

news.sky.com


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 100, posted (10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 99):
Sky News reporting that human remains have been found at the wreck.

Ugh. Probably not much left. They'll probably identify by dental records. At least it will bring some closure to the families, for what it's worth.


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