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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40011 posts, RR: 74
Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29777 times:

Yesterday I met a guy at a gas station who had a 1971 Ford Galaxie 500 Convertible. It was in OK shape. I complemented the owner on his car.
He was very proud of his car because he had 468,327 miles on the engine!
He said he bought it when he completed college in 1971 and has been a very low maintenance car.
I can certainly believe it too!
My Lincoln (1977) has over 220,000 miles on it and is still running strong.
This is a testament to traditional full-size American made cars.
Solid, indestructible and lots of low-end torque (that’s whare power is most important).


The guy’s car at the gas station looked just like this one.



Bring back the Concorde
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User currently offlineHurricane From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29693 times:

Amen Superfly.
Think of all of the great cars over the years, all of the cars that manufacturers try to imitate today.
The birth of the muscle car. The T-Bird. The LTD/Crown Vic. The built Ford tough F-150. Even up to the production of the modern SUV. Hell, the birth of the affordable car in the first place! How often do you see a restored 'Stang with hundreds of thousands of miles? How often do you see an old Ford Pickup' that keeps going strong? Ford truly has made, makes, and forever will make the best cars ever.


User currently offlineB747ca From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29662 times:

Dudes, I agree to some extent. But the title should be Ford Once Made the Best Cars in the World.

ALL the Big 3 NAmerican car makers are spiting out some really crappy cars these days. As a matter of fact ALL the mainstream car manufactures are making some pretty crappy cars.

Nothing beats the good 'ol days though.



ma va funk ulo
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40011 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29638 times:

B747ca:
ALL the Big 3 NAmerican car makers are spiting out some really crappy cars these days

That's to stay competative with crap coming from Europe and Japan. Big grin


However, the Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis & Town Car are the best new cars on the road today.
The new Thunderbird, Maruder & LS are fantastic vehicles too.  Smokin cool



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineB747ca From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29634 times:

However, the Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis & Town Car are the best new cars on the road today.
The new Thunderbird, Maruder & LS are fantastic vehicles too.

Agreed. I was thinking more towards what I call the (myself included) "poor man's car"



ma va funk ulo
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29625 times:

Go home with your strange-looking as-old-as-my-grandma cars  Big grin

And even Americans have to love the look of this babe:


click for wallpaper




User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 29630 times:

Superfly, I too love Ford Rigs, but there was an article in the USAToday not long ago about some guy from NYC that was about to turn 2 million!!! miles on his Volvo. Now that is impressive.

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 29608 times:
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The modern day american cars like Lincoln continental's are really eye-catching machinery:



The old style cars looked seriously naff.

Arsenal@LHR



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User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29609 times:

No way! Dodge will always be #1 in my book!
The Ford Mustang

doesn't even come close to this........

Dodge Viper






The Ford Ranger



can't even compare to this beauty

Dodge Dakota





User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29605 times:

New Dodge Viper Takes On Air Force F-16 on Ripley's "Believe it or Not."

The challenge pitted the all-new Dodge Viper against an F-16 jet in a side-by-side, standing-start, half-mile drag race on parallel air base runways, accelerating to the speed at which the jet became airborne: approximately 150 mph. The Dodge Viper covered the course in around 15 seconds.

Read more @ http://www.dodge.com/inside/news_awards/news_viper_race.html?tsrc=viper&tgrp=promo2&tname=viper_vs_viper

The Dodge Viper took on a F-16 and won. How many fords can do that.........NONE.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 29591 times:

With the exception of Rolls-Royce, I have a hard time accepting the idea that any gas-guzzling behemoth can be considered one of the best cars in the world. And I agree with B747ca...American car manufacturers once turned out high-quality vehicles, but that has definitely not been the case for the past two decades. Only more recently have GM, Ford and Chrysler been making cars that truly compete with vehicles from Europe and Japan, but quality still tends to be lacking.

It's interesting to see which car manufacturers have really started turning out amazing vehicles. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Volkswagen...those particular marques used to be considered cheap tin boxes, but I dare anyone here to say the same about the latest Altima, Accord, Camry or Passat. I particularly remember the Volkswagens of the early '80s - utilitarian transportation, but not one bit of luxury. And that particular brand is the one most likely to be credited for providing cheap transportation to the masses.

It's unfortunate that many foreign manufacturers have surpassed American ones in terms of quality and reliability. I'm glad to see new products like the Cadillac CTS, Lincoln LS, Ford Escape, etc. entering the market. It gives me hope that the American auto industry is at least becoming more competitive. Now, if they could just match foreign car quality...


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 29588 times:

I think Ford is doing just fine. Considering the focus is the best selling car in europe ( I believe that's the first time a non-european manufacturer has achieved this title ).


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User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 29593 times:

VonRichtofen,

Fords popular in Europe are much smaller than the Fords popular in North America, for example the Focus is very popular here in Finland but I didn't see a lot of them when I went to the States last month.

Many US Fords aren't even sold here, I can think of the following models not being sold in Finland, some of them might be sold in Central Europe though.

Explorer
Explorer Sport
Expedition
Excursion
F-150, -250, -350, -450
Ranger (North American model, we do have a crap Thai-made model which is also called Ranger here)

IMHO German cars are the best!

Alex


User currently offlineKRIC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 29583 times:

standing-start, half-mile drag race

That is the key to this "race". From a standing start, a Viper (or any other reasonably quick street car) would already be far,far ahead by the time the F-16 (or any other jet) got up to about 60 MPH.

Another key (from the link provided):
"For the latter, DaimlerChrysler's PVO team tapped more horsepower and clad their Viper in racing slicks"

The car was clearly a wringer juiced up by the Dodge folks for this publicity stunt. Since this thing was run on TBS "Ripley's Believe it or Not", it was intended for the masses, not for true, knowledgable car enthusiasts, who know better than to be impressed by this stunt.

The Dodge Viper took on a F-16 and won. How many fords can do that.........NONE

I'd wager that the SVT Cobra R or the upcoming GT-40 could do it. And I'm sure they could do it EASILY if they were 'hot rodded' up by Ford like the Viper was by Chrysler.

Don't get me wrong, the Viper is an awesome car. But it is ALL-MOTOR. The 2003 Viper will have an 8.3L V-10. That's insane!!! Even Yugo could make a fast car if they put a motor in it the size of my living room. The Viper will get more respect from me when Dodge (like Ford already has) ditches the gigantic, 1950's trechnology engine and offers it with a modern, overhead-cam, multivavle drivetrain. That way, they could get similar power out of smaller (i.e. lighter) engines, and the car will ultimately be even faster  Smile


User currently offlineKRIC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 29543 times:

Check mate, kids

BRAVO. I'm as patriotic as the next American, but even I know that the best cars in the world (by far) come from ....Deutschland.

Anyone arguing that they come from any US car company had better get a clue. Proof that they don't lies in the fact that the US is the largest market for nearly every German and Japanese manufacturer (despite that fact that they are more expensive than their US competition) yet US companies (with the exception of Ford) cannot GIVE AWAY their crap. Read european car magazines...American cars are a joke. I know this is partly because US cars are built for the North American market (cheap gas, long travelling distances, American preference for oversized cars), but also because, quality-wise (i.e. -- how well scewed-together is the thing), the Big Three cannot not touch VW, Mercedes, Honda or Toyota (they do build good trucks, though).

The sad thing is that that there is no excuse for this..I know we can do better. Any country that can design & build Pentium chips, the Space Shuttle, the 777 and the 747-400 should certainly be able to build a world-class automobile...and it can..but it won't until the American consumer stops accepting mediocre cars from the Big Three.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 29537 times:

Great collection, 777236ER!  Big thumbs up

Nothing can beat a BMW, every car they put out is fantastic. What would I give for owning a M3 or M5 ...  Big grin



The new Z4:





User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 29539 times:

Guys make your own BMW thread.

I dont want to see that toilet trash in here.

Why do we always have to get flamed with these idiotic BMWs.

"Nothing can beat a BMW"

Right wow your so intelligent.



User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 29539 times:

Your BMW's can't tow my boat worth a damn.

User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 29524 times:

The best cars in the world do come from Deutschland, but theyre TOO EXPENSIVE TO BE PRACTICAL.


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User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5579 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 29516 times:

A little perspective, folks...

(1) My clients are all in the construction business, and they all drive trucks. The trucks they all buy for the really heavy work- the ones they'll keep for years, use and abuse, and know that they'll have to rely upon- are almost universally Fords- Power Stroke diesels for the heavy hauling.

The Japanese trucks still just don't hold up over the long haul, even the Toyotas, which are exquisitely built, but have a needlessly complex engine, one which is higher-tech, but no more effective.

(2) Compare apples to apples here- my Caddy deville cost about the same as a v6 Lexus, has more room and a 32-valve Northstar V8. I picked it up in September of last year and, after 12,000 miles (not kilometres, though I can change the vehicle's display to metric with a touch of a button), all I've done so far is have the oil changed twice. It was, as delivered, perfect.

The engineering in most contemporary American cars is unsurpassed by any, and in an appropriate comparison, they are soundly competetive.

Of course, I still miss my Audi and I expect I'll drive another one, one of these days. And, my wife loves her BMW cabrio (though she sure gets a lot of speeding tickets in it!).

In cars, there is something for everyone, and no need for anyone to be insulting anyone else about their choice of car.

Though I still have not a clue who the target market for the Pontiac Aztek is; blind people maybe? But if you're blind, you can't drive a car, right? Oh, except in Palm Beach, Florida.

G'bye.



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineKFRG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 29508 times:

Don't get me wrong, Bimmers are great, but unfortunately too plain, expensive, and commonplace. Give me a ImpalaSS over an M5 or a Mustang GT or Cobra over an M3 anyday. My dreamcar, which will someday become reality, will be a 1993 Mustang Saleen S351! Pure and true American power there.
BTW, Merdeces build-quality has dropped overtime. Not the Benz's which some people used to know.

-Tommy


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 29502 times:

BMWs expensive? Hrm, actually drive one and you'll appreciate it. Speed volume for example. Soooo perfectly simple, but SUCH a good innovation. Multiply this innovation hundreds of times throughout the car and you get your value.

User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 29503 times:

Yeah ok innovation schminovation... Chrysler was innovative when they introduced the Minivan under Lee Iococca, big deal.


On another note... How many middle class americans have 35k lying around for a BMW? Most people drive Taurus's or Accords or Windstars or Focii.



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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 29502 times:

As an M5 owner, I would hardly put the ImapalaSS in the same class! No automotive expert would either!
I wouldn't even take one as a loaner!

Man, that one statement and I'll probably have to go back into therapy.
 Smile


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 29502 times:

Yeah ok innovation schminovation... Chrysler was innovative when they introduced the Minivan under Lee Iococca, big deal.

Let's take Speed Volume on the radio. As I said, the small things DO matter and with any BMW you get to appreciate the build quality, the style and the sophistication of the car.


25 Post contains images N312RC : Forgot one thing however... the "average american" never visits airliners.net forums for some reason.. we always attract the multi-billion-dollar 15-2
26 KRIC777 : .....the US is the largest market for nearly every German and Japanese manufacturer (despite that fact that they are more expensive than their US comp
27 Racko : Yes, BMWs are expensive, bot they are worth every single cent. As mentioned by 777236ER, you get a car full of little details that makes it great as a
28 STT757 : Speed Volume ?.. My Brother's '97 Cavalier Z24 has Speed volume. You want innovation, name the Country that invented intermitted wipers. Sure wasn't a
29 LOT767-300ER : "Lest I be misunderstood...what I meant here is that US manufacturers have a hard time selling their product outside of the Americas. " Righhhhhhht. I
30 KFRG : 777236ER- Yes, Bimmers do equal crazy $ Greg- Although very different cars, they are alike, both large sedans (Although the SS would be paired up more
31 777236ER : Righhhhhhht. I see absolutely no Fords, Chryslers, Dodges when i go to Europe....no i havent even seen a Focus there. HAHA!! You're joking right? We h
33 LOT767-300ER : I was being sarcastic....thats why i went "riiiiiiiiighhhhhhht"
34 Post contains links and images 777236ER : Click them all to enlarge! (I hope this pleases those who were unhappy at soooo many pics. They're smaller now!) The Z8 The Z8 from the side The Z8 c
35 Flyingbronco05 : If ford makes the best cars, then why was the focus recalled because of the engine stalling and the front end dropping out? The ford mustang gt a few
36 Racko : "Righhhhhhht. I see absolutely no Fords, Chryslers, Dodges when i go to Europe....no i havent even seen a Focus there." Do you know where big parts of
37 Post contains images Staffan : We had a Ford, but it had no big V8 or anything like that, only a 1.4L engine... Indeed a very good car, and popular, because it was stolen twice. Sta
38 LOT767-300ER : ""Righhhhhhht. I see absolutely no Fords, Chryslers, Dodges when i go to Europe....no i havent even seen a Focus there." I was ONLY BEING SARCASTIC. 7
39 Post contains images Racko : And you got it back after it was stolen ? If a car is stolen here, chances are good that it is Poland before you even notice it is stolen
40 LOT767-300ER : BTW: The 7 series back looks like a cheap Daewoo Lanos.
41 LOT767-300ER : "If a car is stolen here, chances are good that it is Poland before you even notice it is stolen " Poland? You mean in Russia.... The Russian mafia op
42 Racko : LOT, you are turning one argument against itself. On the one hand, you mention the Focus as an american car in europe, then you mention that it is fau
43 Post contains images Staffan : "If a car is stolen here, chances are good that it is Poland before you even notice it is stolen" The car was 13 years old and it would probably have
44 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "LOT, you are turning one argument against itself. On the one hand, you mention the Focus as an american car in europe, then you mention that it is fa
45 Post contains images Racko : Staffan, they actually stole a 13 years old car ? I think the thief needs new glasses. When I started driving with 18, I had an about 10 years old Gol
46 Boeing4ever : I've heard the jokes too! And let me say I'm less impressed. Typical of the Germans. First they bomb it, then they have to insult it, and now they try
47 Post contains images Staffan : Even worse, they stole the 4 rusty 13 inch metal wheels (with hubcaps), before ditching it in a parking lot...
48 KFRG : Well, back to the original post, I forgot to mention, Superfly, my friend has a '68 Galaxie, with only 60,000 miles to the engine! The car itself is i
49 N312RC : Superfly, My dad has a 64 Galaxie 500 with a big 352. He got the exhaust system totally rebuilt and the next project is to grind the rust out of the r
50 Post contains images Racko : Boeing4ever, yes we are evil. We all have the devil in us. But... we build these, and that equals anything
51 Post contains images IMissPiedmont : I used to believe that Ford made good vehicles. I'm beginning to doubt it though. My truck just passed 385,000 miles and is starting to act funny. I g
52 LOT767-300ER : Racko nothing but overpriced RICE. Repulsive is the word that comes to my mind.
53 Post contains images Flight152 : We have always had American cars, they have ALL had numerious problems and often serious problems. Never again will we buy some trash that we will be
54 Flyingbronco05 : Do you all know what FORD really stands for? Found On Road Dead!!!
55 LOT767-300ER : Gee I wonder why no one will start their own thread on BMW and MB and pay them respects FFS.......read the damn topic.
56 VonRichtofen : Go to the airport and pay attention to what brand all the airport trucks on the ramp are. 90% of airport vehicles I've seen in my life at several airp
57 Post contains images Leftypilot79 : I drive Lincoln Towncars at work....I like RWD better than FWD any day....handles much better when its just a car. A limo though...much rather have fr
58 B777 : US still makes the best trucks, my favorite is the Chevy Silverado. But for everything else, I will have to go with European or Japanese.
59 Post contains images STT757 : I was watching one of those world's wildest police chases and they had footage from Moscow, the Moscow police have Crown Vics!.. The best Police cars
60 LOT767-300ER : "Even though this is the last year for the current Camaro, I've heard that the next generation Camaro ('04)" Camaro like the Firebird is getting cut.
61 Aerorobnz : Camaro like the Firebird is getting cut. about time that cheap built rubbish got canned IMO.....the engine is reasonable, if not a little unrefined bu
62 LOT767-300ER : "about time that cheap built rubbish got canned IMO.....the engine is reasonable, if not a little unrefined but the build quality......yuck no wonder
63 Superfly : Get those eyesores (BMWs) out of here! National_757: As far as your Dodge comparison, there really is NO comparison. Your putting the Mustang up again
64 Pgh234 : Ford makes excellent cars. Lets look at my dad for example. He bought a used early-70's model Ford Maverick and drove it for 15 years (it was 20 years
65 KFRG : STT757, I agree with you, the CrownVic is the last true full-size RWD V8 Sedan on the market. Although the Police Interceptor package is not available
66 Post contains images Superfly : KFRG: The new Mercury Maruder has the same powerplant as the Police Interceptor.
67 LOT767-300ER : However i must say i like the Caprice cop cars more. I dont know why but they were just awsome. Too bad Ford now has a monopoly on the full size inter
68 Post contains images Staffan : Ford Makes The Best Cars In The World Maybe, but Porsche makes the best looking ones!!
69 Post contains images Hkgspotter1 : They dont call them YANK TANKS fotr nothing . Its a shame those old American cars have no style. Give me a Ferrari or Aston Martin any day !!
70 Rolex01 : Well, how can you say that?! Would I be right saying you are gay just because you are from San Francisco, the Gay capital of the Universe? I may be, b
71 Flyingbronco05 : Did i mention that today i smoked a lightning in my SS? I eat FORDS for breakfast! Go to the airport and pay attention to what brand all the airport t
72 Post contains images Planelover : I personally know somebody that has over 400,000 miles on their Crown Vic. Those cars are built like a tank! There car has been rear-ended 4 times, to
73 Post contains images Flight152 : Get those eyesores (BMWs) out of here! I sure hope you didn't consider my Mercedes pictures eyesores I don't know how you guys like those Crown Vics.
74 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "Its a shame those old American cars have no style. Give me a Ferrari or Aston Martin any day !!" Like Peugots and Citroens and Opels in 70s had any s
75 Post contains images Fordlover : That stands for First On Race Day, thank you very much! Sorry to be absent from this wonderful discussion, I've been vacationing in Colorado, and have
76 KFRG : "Its a shame those old American cars have no style. Give me a Ferrari or Aston Martin any day !!" HKGspotter, it's too bad that both of these companys
77 Post contains links L-188 : HKGspotter.... Aston Martin...IS A FORD COMPANY!!! Along with Volvo, Land Rover, and Jaguar. Just take a look at Fords corporate webpage....http://www
78 Post contains images Bruno : You tell 'em L-188! I am very happy with my 1991 Ford F-350 pickup. That truck can haul 10 bmws. Goodnight all!
79 Post contains images L-188 : Only ten....must be a shortbed!!! My dad's old 79 F-250 could haul more. Too bad my mom got rid of it after the divorce
80 Wn700driver : Actually it does sell quite well its just that it dosent have a base commonality with other cars. POS......find me a better POS for $25,000..... Camar
81 Post contains images AWspicious : You people crack me up If it's not religion it's politics; If it's not Boeing vs Airbus it's gay vs straight... Now, it's cars. Hm..... Good thing we
82 KFRG : An Accord with a second over a Z28? Must be a VERY HEAVILY modified Accord!
83 Wn700driver : Yes it has. & no, not very heavily. I spent less than USD4500 alltogether, and other than a fresh paint job, 16x7.5 alloys, and chromed exhaust outlet
84 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "HA HA HA...A car superior to Camero/firebird for under USD25,000? That would be a 1977 Ford Pinto! I used to have respect for Z28s, until I started s
85 Post contains images Superfly : Wn700driver: Please, please, please tell me you were joking! Accord? This thread is about real cars. There is NO WAY in hell a rice-rocket can stand u
86 Wn700driver : It doesn't stand up to F-bodies...It leaves them in the dust HA HA HA HA! Seriously though, I'm good for low 12s. Also, it is NOT a rice rocket. Those
87 Post contains images Superfly : Wn700driver: I don't have a Camero. I am more a luxury car guy. If I wanted a sports car, I'd get a 1969 Mercury Cougar Convertible, Buick GS or AMC J
88 Post contains images Banco : Ford in Europe have always produced popular cars, and indeed they are by far the best of the North American manufacturers. The problem is that Ford in
89 KFRG : Bacno, Please, don't use a POS like the Dodge Neon as an example of an average American car. The Neon is also regarded as how you just explained it ov
90 Superfly : Banco: Ford are a car company. GM are a kind of bank that happen to be forced into making cars. It shows. Ford have always produced driver's cars, GM
91 Wn700driver : Banco, you make excellent points. I had a Mondeo once (waaay back when I was still an EI732driver, lol), and the Ford at home versus the Ford here (Am
92 Wn700driver : KFRG, it would be nice to see the Focus be a rice killer, but that will not happen until they can make SVT Focus much more about substance than just s
93 Post contains images Superfly : Wn700driver: No I was comparing the GM B body (Impala SS, etc..) to the Ford Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis and Town Car. The M5 is in a class by it's s
94 Banco : Wn700Driver, Ford have now let the boys at Cosworth get their mitts on the Focus and a 220hp version has been due to hit the stands for some time now,
95 Wn700driver : Banco - Vauxhall & Opel aren't that bad, but just sit in Pontiac Grand Prix next time you are stateside, then you'll think nothing of a few switches b
96 Post contains links Wn700driver : I forget who asked, but here you go! the 2004 5 series (which I am sure the M5 will very closely resmeble, as it always does!) http://www.edmunds.com/
97 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Wn: Somehow still no one believes your theory on the Camara 91' Unmodified Accord lol. Something like comparing whats faster a BAe ATP or the Concorde
98 Wn700driver : Wn: Somehow still no one believes your theory on the Camara 91' Unmodified Accord lol. Hey stupid, I hate to burst yer bubble, but it is not unmodifie
99 Superfly : Wn700driver: Before we start tearing each other apart, I am still wondering how this is possible. There is certain laws of physics here that we must t
100 IMissPiedmont : I've seen 9 second VW Beetles several times. With VW engines. I just have a hard time imagining a low 12 second Accord. I had A 1976 Chevy Monza that
101 747-451 : Ford is okay, but I am sick of the weekly recalls (LOL). My Dad had a 1984 Dodge 600SE sedan and got 178,000 miles out of it with it's original drivet
102 Post contains links and images Superfly : 747-451: That has to be the only K-car success story I've heard. Did your Dodge 600SE have the 2.2L turbo engine? Mines does and it gives me tons of p
103 747-451 : The 600 is not a "K" but an EEK ( exteneded K.) We bought ours new from a dealer in Atlanta. It ran like a top from the minute we bought it. It had a
104 Post contains images Superfly : OK it's a K-car derivative, my mistake. It was $2000. and the guy was initally asking $3,500. At the time (1998) that cars blue book value was about $
105 Post contains images VonRichtofen : "For now, though the Honda Civic Type R remains the car to beat in that category." Actually, the SVT focus in North America out performs the Civic typ
106 TechRep : When the Viper first came out they pitted the Dodge Viper against the Shelby AC427 Cobra in a contest that was 0-100 and back to 0. Now the AC Cobra s
107 Jgo : give me a holden over any car. anyway, you could consider the three biggest teams in formula 1 - ferrari, bmw and mercedes.
108 Post contains images Wn700driver : I must ask you Wn700driver, are you sure this was a Z28 you were racing? I can understand beating a stock 3.8 liter V6 Camero but not the 5.7 liter V8
109 Banco : Von Richtofen: You may be right, but the version of the Civic Type R varies from country to country. I don't know what one you have over there, but th
110 LOT767-300ER : {"Secondly, you're the only one said anything about believing it (um, I smell denial anyways)." Yea, and Superfly is a ghost? "There is certain laws o
111 Wn700driver : There is NO replacement for displacement! what a shame that some people will go to their graves believing such nonsense. LOT, meet Twin Sequential Tur
112 747-451 : The car is beautiful, and I would sink $$ into it. After all, the Lebaron was the last of the K-vertible derivatives. Wehave been lucky, but after a b
113 Wn700driver : did this thread get deleted...won't show up in nonav all of a sudden...
114 Rapo : Though, I am a log time fan of Fords, I have to burst your collective bubbles when it comes to the Crown Vic "Interceptor Package". I don't have the a
115 WSRegal : Bullshit, I will bring my 01 Camaro SS down their & put 5 lengths on your RICE BURNER. -WSRegal
116 Post contains images Lubcha132 : yea, i love cords! oh wait. J. Lu
117 Post contains links LOT767-300ER : Wn700: USDM H22a1/H22a4 JDM H22a Prelude Accord Stat 93-96 Vtec 97-98 Base 99-01 Base 97-98 Type SH 99+ Type SH 92-95 Vtec 97+ SiR 97+ SiR S Spec 97+
118 Post contains links VonRichtofen : You guys would love this site: http://www.ricecop.com They have rice tickets you can print up serve to ricers you see in parking lots ROTLMAO http://w
119 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Wn700 Im still waiting for your proven facts about the TST H22A. Ill check in after i return from ORD
120 LOT767-300ER : Already back...... Wn700: When you going to post again dang it.....I just cant wait what you have to say. *coughs* another fake ricer exterminated
121 Post contains links USAir_757 : Non-supercharged camaros ARE NOT fast! They are slow 14-15 second dog cars. I watched at the dragway as a souped up Volvo 850 T-5R beat the daylights
122 LOT767-300ER : "Non-supercharged camaros ARE NOT fast! They are slow 14-15 second dog cars. I watched at the dragway as a souped up Volvo 850 T-5R beat the daylights
123 USAir_757 : The 700 series with the little Mitsubishi 13c turbos have a lack of power at high RPM (5300+), however those with retrofitted 15c turbos from 850T's a
124 L-188 : You would be amazed at how many transmission problems can be cleared up by simply changing the fluid and filter in it, Superfly. You still should be g
125 Early Air : I`ve owned 2 fords, both explorers, both great cars. However I am not adding a 540i to the collection. A Ford and a BMW, both in the same garage. They
126 Wn700driver : Lot, come back when you are old enough to drive. The fact that you don't have a clue that what I drive is obviously not stock says everything that any
127 Wn700driver : USAir, just to let you know, I've seen Volvos running as quick as mid-low13s before (it was a 740 body). I don't know what mods, but I'm guessing inte
128 LOT767-300ER : "Hybrid = body & susp. (even with presnt mods), combined with an aftermarket motor. As I said, I don't expect teenagers (epecially ones who don't even
129 Wn700driver : So, peter what you're saying is that since you don't actually know what your talking about (Mr turbo=all low end, no long term accl, lmao), you just w
130 KFRG : Wn700driver, grow up! "KFRG, it would be nice to see the Focus be a rice killer, but that will not happen until they can make SVT Focus much more abou
131 Wn700driver : I will not say a mustang handles badly, but I would also not put it on a par with a base Focus either. As for SVT Focus, this has been discussed alrea
132 LOT767-300ER : Lol dont you see how no one believes you? Funny how you assume things that I dont know......shows how mature you are. "Superfly - my car has only the
133 USAir_757 : Wn700driver: What 7-cyl? I have never heard of any 7-cyl engine from any manufacturer. Are you thinking of the 5-cyl turbo motor? I really doubt it's
134 Post contains images AWspicious : Is this thread still going?!! Holy smokes! You folks sure are emotional about your cars.... More so than about your airplanes, it seems Here's some fu
135 Post contains images USAir_757 : Oh, and that Maruder...it lookes like a RICED OUT CROWN VIC! Maybe the old guys who wear ball caps and those cool sunglasses will be driving them...HA
136 WSRegal : Bring your RICE BURNER, or Lawnmower, Or Weed Eater on & you'll be seeing my taillights & my "Fuelslut Racing" decals. -WSRegal
137 KFRG : "will not say a mustang handles badly, but I would also not put it on a par with a base Focus either. As for SVT Focus, this has been discussed alrea
138 Post contains images Superfly : Hey lets turn this in to an Airbus vs. Boeing thread.
139 Captaingomes : Superfly, I'd like to ask a question (anybody is free to answer). You said earlier that if the imports made such great cars, then the Americans would
140 USAir_757 : A word of advice, never buy a used car with over 50000 miles on it "A word of advice, never buy an American used car with over 50000 miles on it" woul
141 Wn700driver : Wn700driver: What 7-cyl? I have never heard of any 7-cyl engine from any manufacturer. Are you thinking of the 5-cyl turbo motor? I really doubt it's
142 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Wn700 can you please explain your two comments? "Superfly - my car has only the following "mods" 2.2L H22a aftermarket motor 6m transmission (Reeeeeee
143 Post contains images Bruno : Wn700driver & LOT767-300ER I did see a Honda Accord smoke the socks off a Chevy Camero SS. It totally blew the Chevy in the dust. I tried catching up
144 LOT767-300ER : " did see a Honda Accord smoke the socks off a Chevy Camero SS. It totally blew the Chevy in the dust. I tried catching up with Chevy just to see the
145 Silverangel : LOT763, You are a moron. It's obvious that WN is totally brainf***ing you. A 13 second accord? I think most people would just pony up the $$$ for used
146 Post contains images Captaingomes : LOT, read Bruno's message again. After he said what you quoted him in your message, he said his alarm clock woke him up! He was actually on your side,
147 Post contains images Superfly : LOT767-300ER: I saw the same thing Bruno saw. I did see a Honda beat a Chevy SS! It happened when I was riding in ILS's BMW while we were going to pic
148 Post contains images Sebolino : Nothing more to say than that:
149 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "You are a moron. It's obvious that WN is totally brainf***ing you." lol ok........ Dude in this world crazy people like him exist....and really do th
150 Silverangel : LOT I didn't say he was crazy, I just said he was messing with you. Anyways, if he is who I really think he is, than it is not impossible that he's te
151 LOT767-300ER : Hes not messin......THAT HOW STUPID HE IS
152 Silverangel : WN, is mark your older brother? The guy who works at ICPS in Belfast? Also, didn't he have a Trans Am or something like that?
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