Mighluss From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 984 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1325 times:
Yes, dangerous. Like "corridas de toros", more or less is the same, the reason of this is just to get the bull tired and confused, and finally they kill it. I don't think this is for tourists, in fact, people from Pamplona don't like sleepy and drunk tourists to run forward the bulls. And if you look at the statistics, I'm pretty sure that most deaths in San Fermín are tourists.
Bravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1295 times:
This is pure barbarism. These are the traditions of the past alright. But they are linked with the times when slavaes were thrown into the stadiums along with hungry lions in the name of entertainment. Though the world has abandoned it now, this one continues. You may say that the people included are voulanteers but then what about the poor bull???? Killed in the name of entertainment???
IB6400 From Mexico, joined Jun 1999, 247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1271 times:
Los españoles NO están locos...
It's just a cultural thing...
I'm Mexican but my parents are Spanish.
Mexico is a bullfighting country, we have the largest Bullfighting Ring in the world, in San Miguel de Allende we have the same tradition as in Pamplona, Spain. We even call that day "La Pamplonada". It's just to celebrate San Fermin's Day on July 7th.
There is people in some Bullfighting countries like Mexico, Spain, Ecuador or Colombia who think that killing bulls just by entertainment is purely barbarism, (my mother is one of them) but there is another part of the population who thinks that is one of the great traditions in our cultures. (My father, RIP, was one of them)
Maybe they're right... Maybe it's purely barbarism, but believe me I've been witness of countless discussions about it... Just to get to one point... People who like bullfights go to the bullfighting ring... People who don't just stay away of it...
Eventhough I completely respect and understand all of your thoughts and your statements... If you ask for my personal opinion I would answer I like Bullfights mainly because the whole idea of a "Matador" being with such an impressive animal like a bull is a matter of respect and I see that almost like a "bare hands" fight.
As I wrote before, some people don't like it some people do... So, PLEASE, don't post any offensive or immature comments about how insane Spanish are. Because I am not going to reply them.
Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset
BFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1263 times:
Okay okay, I feel I must defend my post here. It was tongue in cheek - I love the Spanish, Spain and everything Hispanic, and am startingmy degree in Hispanic Studies in September. As usual on A.net, irony is not blunt enough to be detected, or just ignoredcted, or just ignored.
¡Baja de tu caballo alto!
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1248 times:
To be honest, being half-latin myself, and of Spanish descent, I think this tradition is rather stupid; the same goes for foxhunting in Britain.
My personal opinion is that these traditions, and other similar ones, will eventually die out when today's younger generation grow up into adulthood, and realise that maintaining these activites in the name of 'tradition' is not a convincing case.
With respect to 'barbarism'. I'm not sure I would go that far, in the strict sense of the word, but it certainly seems cruel. To be honest, we as humans are quite happy to kill each other for nothing, so the fact that bull runs and foxhunting are still around is not surprising in the least, as far as I'm concerned.
If we can't even resolve our differences without killing each other en masse (we're all humans godammit!), how can we ever expect to eradicate cruel behaviour towards other animals? That's just my opinion.