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Yasser Arafats Response To Isreali Missile Attack  
User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10552 times:

Arafat..... "This is a crime. No normal-minded, conscientious and feeling person could imagine such a massacre," Palestinian President Yasser Arafat ( news - web sites) told reporters at his West Bank compound, surrounded by Israeli troops.

"I ask the whole world how they can stand silent and not stop these crimes, particularly now that we have started positive initiatives for progress."

Is this guy for real? He can't be.....

How can he publicly condemn the killing of civilians when his suicide bombers have been extoling damage against Israeli civilians as the primary target not collateral damage?

Payback's a bitch...... sometimes in a big way.

Arafat is in no position to cry about civilian casualties.

JET

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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10486 times:

"This is a crime."

ROTFL. As compared to the countless crimes he's committed?

"No normal-minded, conscientious and feeling person could imagine such a massacre."

Oh, puhleez! This is the same guy who won't say a word after countless suicide attacks against Israeli civilians.

Is this guy for real? He can't be.....

Why not? And doesn't he sound EXACTLY like ADG, SAS23, Avitsiya, Goodbye, EmiratesLover, and the rest of THI, JET? Almost if it were one of them talking.

Oh, and I'm sure SAS23 will be chiming in real soon on how someone else is being bad to his Palestinian buddies.


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10471 times:

You say that but the result is going to be loads of Israeli limbs flying around Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. And then the cycle will start afresh.

Surely current policy by both sides is clearly not working?



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10460 times:

Surely current policy by both sides is clearly not working?

On that, Ryan, I agree with you 1000%

Unfortunately, there are too many voices on here who say simply that one side needs to change their ways, but the fact is BOTH must find a way to break this cycle. It's not up to one to do it-both must engage each other in a far different manner than has been the case for 5 decades now.


User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10472 times:

Pay back IS a bitch! The military leader of Hamas was targeted, not civilians. Unlike homicide bombers who target men, women, and innocent children!
Let 'em cry. Stop terrosism and you will find how soon F-16's will stop flying over Gaza.

CH





"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10465 times:

(Looks at watch) I'm getting worried. SAS23 hasn't shown up yet.  Sad He should have been here by now.......

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10458 times:

After initial online battles with you Alpha_1 - I realise that I agree with you a hell of a lot of the time.

It is clear that BOTH sides have an equal obligation to peace. Blind terrorism from the Palestinians is never justified, and for all that neither is Isralei aggression and illegal occupation of Palestinian territory.

The mad thing is, to an impartial outsider, the solution seems ludicrously simple. Israel - withdraw immediately. Then see what happens. If the Palestinian attacks still continue, then it becpomes a war against terror instead of a freedom fight, and then the Israelis would be fully entitled to use all necessary power to fight back.

The current tit-for-tat hate attacks from both sides don't solve anything IMHO



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10458 times:

After initial online battles with you Alpha_1 - I realise that I agree with you a hell of a lot of the time.

Thanks Ryan-it's called "finding common ground". I don't hold out hope of ever reaching common ground with some members on here, but I'm willing to try.


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10455 times:

Clipperhawaii - yes the Hamas guy was a asshole who is better dead but by using a 1 ton bomb to kill one guy in an apartment block full of civilians surely you must admit the response from Israel was a bit OTT and unconcerned about the civilians?

We need to ask the question, do both sides actually want peace?



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10455 times:

The military leader of Hamas was targeted, not civilians.

Not according the the Whitehouse. Check it out.


User currently offlineWn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10448 times:

Damn, they were so close to renegotiating a peace. Well, back to meatgrinder...

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10440 times:

Well, Rai, as many of those who are so against the U.S. would always say, "Since when does the White House know anything?"  Big grin

Seriously, I think the White House is wrong to critisize on this instance. We'd be a little ticked if we got OBL, and Britian, for example, critisized it.


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10440 times:

I guess we will probably never know the true facts anyway. That is the most striking thing about all of this. There is one camp who says 'Israel is evil' and the other going 'Palestinians are all terrorists'. Thing is, very few people can claim they know the real story behind all of this, and the conspiracy theorists have a field day!


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10438 times:

In a rare U.S. criticism of Israel, President Bush called the attack "heavy-handed" and said it "does not contribute to peace," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

Personally, I like killing flies with a hammer instead of a simple plastic fly swatter. The result is the same, but it feels oh so much better when you get one with a hammer! It makes a hell of a statement!

I feel remorse for those innocents that were killed. But I feel no more remorse for them than the innocent Israeli's killed by members of Hamas.

My advice, if you live near a suspected terrorist you had better move! Don't give them refuge and protect thier lives. The life that may be lost may be your own.

CH



"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 10432 times:

If it was Bin Laden in that building, and the US levelled it, would the UN, EU and pretty much the rest of the world condemn the attack ?

The UN couldnt complain about it fast enough, yet they still don't say a word about the suicide bombers.


Jer


User currently offlineNik From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 10428 times:

"...yet they[UN] still don't say a word about the suicide bombers"

What do you mean?


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 10424 times:

This is a crime. No normal-minded, conscientious and feeling person could imagine such a massacre

What an idiot. He just shows even more support for terrorism by saying that. A terrorist leader was killed and he calls it a crime, good god.

Is this guy for real? He can't be.....

Like Alpha said, of course he's real. In fact, there are some on here who sound just like him. SAS23, ADG, Goodbye, Aviatisya, etc. ADG for one said directly that she believes terrorism is justified.

I'm getting worried. SAS23 hasn't shown up yet. He should have been here by now......

Don't worry, he'll be here, back to defend the terrorists once again with his buddies ADG, Aviatsiya, and Goodbye  Smile

Unfortunately, there are too many voices on here who say simply that one side needs to change their ways, but the fact is BOTH must find a way to break this cycle. It's not up to one to do it-both must engage each other in a far different manner than has been the case for 5 decades now.

Couldn't have said it better.



-NWA742


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 10412 times:

I condemn this attack as well. Of course there were civilian casualties, they knowingly bombed an apartment complex. What else did they think was going to be there? A militarty base?

I condemn all types of terrorism, and this act qualifies. Isreal dropped the ball in the biggest way here. The only positive thing in this was that a major terrorist was taken out.


User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months ago) and read 10399 times:

The problem is that it's not a fair fight. Israel has F-16's to do it's dirty work. Hamas uses the only weapons at it's disposal. Just to clarify..... Arafat is not Hamas nor is he in control of Hamas.

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10355 times:

Nik wrote..."...yet they[UN] still don't say a word about the suicide bombers" What do you mean?


The UN is very vocal in it's criticism of Israel, and before I get attacked for saying this, in most cases, their criticism is reasonable. Where the problem comes along is that there are suicide bombings more or less every other day, yet you don't see Kofi Banana calling press conferences to say that the suicide bombings are unnaceptable.

In short, I don't understand why he finds it ok for the Palestinian suicide machine to continue without a comment, but the second Israel does anything, he is competing with SAS23 in the 100 meter sprint to see who can criticise Israel first....

Jeremy


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10342 times:

....The mad thing is, to an impartial outsider, the solution seems ludicrously simple. Israel - withdraw immediately. Then see what happens.

Actually, Ryan, Israel withdrew from most of the West bank several years ago as negotiated by the Oslo accords, and we all see what happened. The violence against Israelis only increased. The withdrawal was seen as a sign of weakness, that had to be exploited. That's how we got to where we are today.

Israel then began withdrawing again after the Bethlehem incident, only to be drawn back in by new violence. The pattern is very obvious -- whenever Israel makes a move toward peace or withdrawal, the violence intensifies. Why?

Pete



User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10352 times:

I usually stay clear of these threads nowadays, but it bothers me that many people cannot see the difference between targeting an enemy and targeting an enemy with civilians. The former is defensible (not that I condone state sanctioned assassinations), the latter inexcusable and barbaric in this age of enlightenment. How can any so-called "democratic outpost of Western ideals" justify the killing of 14 civilians (9 of which were children) in an effort to assassinate ONE suspected terrorist?

The problem is not so much Israel carrying out assassinations, but rather Israel deliberately targeting civilians. There is NO justification for such an act. As a matter of fact, by deliberately targeting innocent civilians, the Israeli government has put itself directly on par with the very terrorists they seek to eliminate.


User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10333 times:

Did you see the pic that Jetpilot posted? It was what he said that should bother you not the pic itself. And I agree with you Hepkat. I condone suicide bombings but for people to say that it was good to kill civilians was not a very nice thing. Im glad the terrorist is dead but by firing a missile at a apartment complex full of familes and children is uncalled for. By doing this its like Israel putting itself as low as the suicide bombers.


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10341 times:

Hepkat,
Who says Isreal was targeting civilians? Is there a possibility killing children was in error?



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User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10328 times:

No, by firing into that home, Israel is taking steps to defend its citizens. Terrorists blowing up pizza huts are taking no steps to defend their citizens.

completely different. yes this was terribly, but israel hates this negative publicity as much as anyone, so there must have been good reason for the attack. Likely this Hamas guy was planning an imminent attack that would have massacred many Israeli civilians.

tnnh


25 JETPILOT : The pic should bother you as it is anindication of Palestinian values. To kill Israelis. What western civilization allows kids to carry assault rifles
26 David B. : How about all the innocent people? The young children?Personally I think they should have send in a convoy to pick him up. What I don't understand is
27 David B. : And why did you wish 15 kids were dead?
28 Post contains links Delta-flyer : According to this CNN article, the Israelis thought there were no civilians in the building..... http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/07/23/mideast/ind
29 JETPILOT : Becasue 15 kids with assault weapons can do the situation nor the world any good. You can write off those children as noncontributors to civilized soc
30 Twaneedsnohelp : What I don't understand is why whenboth sides are almost at agreement with each other, Where are people getting this? The Hamas "ceasefire" shouldn't
31 Bravo45 : Israel then began withdrawing again after the Bethlehem incident, only to be drawn back in by new violence. The pattern is very obvious -- whenever Is
32 David B. : Do you condone the death of the people though?
33 Bravo45 : The dead civilians are unfortunate, but had Israel not acted, many more Israelis would have been killed and the IDF's obligation is to protect Israeli
34 David B. : Just like the people in the WTC paid
35 Post contains images David B. : Well 14 more suicide bombers. Stalled peace talks...........way to go Why couldn't they just send in a convoy to pick him up? or use a sniper?
36 Bravo45 : Well David, I think that those snipers would have killed the guys that escaped too. And remember Israel doesn't even allow an Ambulance during the ope
37 Hepkat : Since when did you all become expert statesmen? Every country around the world, of every religion, whether with or against Israel, has condemned Israe
38 Bravo45 : I agree with you Hepkat! This was not directed to all of you. I see to it and appreciate you sence of right and wrong. I wanted one of those die-hard
39 NWA : well, I have an Idea for the U.S. STAY OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
40 David B. : Damn we should have done that all along. Maybe the WTC sould be still standing.
41 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : Why? Well then know it! This time Hamass was about to (perhaps today) announce a halt to all terrorist acivities including suicide bomboings. Oh pleas
42 Alpha 1 : No one is saying Israel does not have a right to protect its citizens. I guess SAS23, ADG, EmiratesLover, David B, Avitsiya, Sonic, and the usual gang
43 Bravo45 : Oh please. Thats BS. No one was taking Hamas seriously. They have "offered" these BS treaties in the past, only to reneg time and time again. .... And
44 Artsyman : well, I have an Idea for the U.S. STAY OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn we should have done that all along. Maybe the WTC sould be still standing Bin Laden
45 David B. : How about alpha1, TWANEEDSNOHELP, Jetpilot, Clipperhawaii and the rest of the A.net Zionist lobby counts as nobody Alpha. You need insults because we
46 Bravo45 : And one last thing before I go: Israel would go bankrupt if it ever decides to pay compensation to the innocent people that it has killed. But in shar
47 Post contains images OA412 : Hepkat! It never ceases to amaze me that so many of you are so willing to bash any Palestinian action against Israel yet are so quick to defend any,
48 Hepkat : Why the hell not, Hepkat? You're basically saying "well, it's not as bad when the terrorists do it, because we expect it, but when Israel kills civili
49 Artsyman : This means you DON'T deliberately target even one civilian in your pursuit of a suspect If Bin Laden was in the building, you think the US would let h
50 David B. : The US would cover it up.
51 David B. : I would think so Jeremy.
52 David B. : OA, anti-Semitism is used as a excuse to prevent people from speaking out against Israeli policy or its government. Its sad but true.
53 Artsyman : I would think so Jeremy. ... Tell me you are not serious.... Jeremy
54 David B. : If they did it would be few deaths. I dont think the gov would destroy or fire a missile at a building to take out a terrorist unless it has no other
55 Post contains links Nik : Artsyman, "In short, I don't understand why he [Kofi Annan] finds it ok for the Palestinian suicide machine to continue without a comment.." A 20 seco
56 Bravo45 : And now don't you say that you didn't knew it. I mean its possible for you to not have known this. But until this is the case, you should not be posti
57 L-188 : Hepkat, if you think we are living in an enlightend time, you are deluding yourself. This is not a commentary on you, but just on society today. Not a
58 Artsyman : And now don't you say that you didn't knew it. I mean its possible for you to not have known this. But until this is the case, you should not be posti
59 Clipperhawaii : David B.--I am part of an a.net zionist lobby? Where on earth did you get that idea? I post my comment and I get "branded." Tsk, tsk. The only people
60 Bravo45 : "If you are trying to tell me that Annan criticises Israel and the Palestinians equally, and that the media does the same, then you really do need to
61 Bravo45 : By the way it was aimed at the person who said this. I haven't read the entire thread. Someone else pointed it out and this was my comment on it. And
62 Post contains images Alpha 1 : How about alpha1, TWANEEDSNOHELP, Jetpilot, Clipperhawaii and the rest of the A.net Zionist lobby counts as nobody Alpha. You need insults because we
63 Twaneedsnohelp : Israel would go bankrupt if it ever decides to pay compensation to the innocent people that it has killed. But in sharron's era the War Crimes crimina
64 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : I was going to post some stuff on this thread, but have decided not to. Thats a loss TNNH
65 Bravo45 : "That standard includes protecting Israel citizens, Hepkat. If you're going to cry over the deaths of these people camped out with this murderer, go a
66 ADG : David, you're a little too shallow for your own good. Is this an insult I see? It was not a post intended to insult. Hepkat said "no one says Israel d
67 Bravo45 : With what has been said about insult from your behalf I would like to add to it that you have claimed us to be "Extremists". Soooooooo speaking for th
68 Capt.Picard : A very stupid manouvre by Israel. These kinds of strikes will not solve the problem, they'll exacerbate it. What the heck was Sharon thinking in allow
69 Post contains links Alpha 1 : Really good intel. They're trying to tell us they were under the impression that he was alone in the building ..... or perhaps they knew and simply ch
70 Bravo45 : Alpha1 "They're far from perfect, and I've had my issues with them. This isn't about being perfect or who is most pious-it's about the survival of a n
71 TWAneedsnohelp : Rubbish. Israel had lots of choices here, they simply chose the one that caused the most damage.
72 Post contains images Aviatsiya.ru : Please supply your proof Listen, Sharon is just as extremist as Arafat. Yes, Israel is entitled to defend herself, but then so are the Palestinians. P
73 TWAneedsnohelp : That picture is hardly "proof" that Israel had "lots of choices". Hardly. Anyway, I was right. In an earlier post I said this: It is my belief somethi
74 Parra : If Israel is so damn perfect then why does just about ever single country criticise their actions, except the USA or course. Arie Fleischman (guess hi
75 Hepkat : To all our A.Net "statesmen" who belive the pursuit of one terrorist justified the killing of 14 innocent civilians whose only fault was carelessly be
76 Parra : Obviously a case of do it and then say it was an error. Yeah right!
77 American_4275 : In my opinion, Sharon and Arafat are both incompetent.
78 Delta-flyer : Hi, Hepkat, Well at least Israel said it was a mistake, and are sorry for the loss of innocent lives. You can bet that the whole country (other than s
79 American_4275 : Delta-flyer, How are you so sure of this? Has it ever crossed your mind that there might be Palestinians who are against the attacks going on and are
80 Krushny : To all our A.Net "statesmen" who belive the pursuit of one terrorist justified the killing of 14 innocent civilians whose only fault was carelessly b
81 TWAneedsnohelp : There is no Arie Fleischman working at the White House. civilian area. One has no choice but to believe this MUST have been blatantly ignored, and tha
82 David B. : Seriously they should have dropped in from helicopters. Grab the guy and go. No civilians killed. Its more high profile but its better then a superson
83 David B. : TNNH, TWAmerican, TWANEEDSHELP, PANJNY or what ever your name is, would your opinion be the same if you were not a Jew? There are Jewish people here w
84 Parra : A crazy leader comes to power, annexes territory of neighbouring countries, kills cizillians from a particular ethnic group. Hitler and Sharon seem to
85 WSRegal : In my opinion, I support the Israeli Airstrike against the leader of Hamas. I consider this a huge victory for Israel. -WSRegal
86 Post contains images ADG : thought you weren't responding to me! You weren't there, were you ADG? Nope, that's my point Alpha1, you are making statements on something you know
87 Flyboy36y : This attack against the Hamas leader saddens me. It saddens be mecause it was inevitable and avoidable at the same time. It saddens me because Israel
88 Delta-flyer : American.... Has it ever crossed your mind that there might be Palestinians who are against the attacks going on and are SCARED and feel sorrow when I
89 Alpha 1 : I wouldn't support reprisals by the Palestinians. What I would support is dialogue between the two parties to attempt to achieve an outcome which is b
90 David B. : alpha, I would think that by helo would be the best way of doing this.
91 Alpha 1 : alpha, I would think that by helo would be the best way of doing this. Fair enough, David B. Maybe it would have been. Who knows? But personally, I do
92 David B. : Are those civilians human alpha? Or are they just Arab? And don't answer my question with another question. BTW Im friends with a lot of "terrorist".
93 Alpha 1 : Are those civilians human alpha? Or are they just Arab? And don't answer my question with another question. BTW Im friends with a lot of "terrorist".
94 David B. : Answer my question please.
95 David B. : Dont answer with another question. How about the kids? Do you know every neighbor in you neighborhood?
96 Post contains images Aviatsiya.ru : SAY WHAT? No disrespect to Australia, but Australia is hardly one of the first we call on. You have excellent armed forces, no doubt, but they're not
97 Post contains links Dufo : *click* facts from one side..
98 Delta-flyer : David B.... ... How about the kids? We are all extremely distressed that innocent children were killed. However, your remarks will not garner much cre
99 ADG : http://www.halturnershow.com/idf_soldier_aiming.jpg http://www.halturnershow.com/ColdBlood1.JPG http://www.halturnershow.com/ColdBlood2.JPG http://ww
100 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : would you people look at the front page of that halturnershow.com website. he refers to a black inmate as a "savage negro beast". good find ADG, good
101 David B. : pro-Israeli members see two countries: US and Israel. I dont see it that way. So suicide bombers are evil, the IDF is also evil. I dont have to lprove
102 David B. : Did you see his homepage? He had no balance...........he's either extreme right or extreme left. I agree with some of his articles but is worded with
103 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : extreme extreme prejudice agaisnt blacks and Jews. "savage negro beast". ugh makes me so sick. in this day and age. anyway here are some pics of the e
104 Post contains images David B. : Now, that is evil.........Evil in the eyes of right wing and pro-Israeli supporters
105 Twaneedsnohelp : hardly, I'm all for more of it. I want a Palestinians state as much as anyone, but not one born of terror. thats it. tnnh
106 ADG : My reference to that site was merely to show the pictures, it was not support of the site. These pictures have been discussed before (elsewhere to her
107 David B. : Read through his forums..............youll learn a lot.
108 Twaneedsnohelp : My reference to that site was merely to show the pictures, it was not support of the site. Coming from a site like that, the pictures can hardly be co
109 Post contains images ADG : Man of 100 nics ... There is no question that many within the IDF are just normal people, who fully respect others. However, there is now more and mor
110 Bravo45 : TNNH!! Give us some thing out of the PURE Israeli media or don't say anything about it at all. The pictures provided by the the website showing the Pa
111 Post contains links Delta-flyer : Bravo, Give us some thing out of the PURE Israeli media..... OK, here's a letter to the editor published in the Jerusalem Post.... http://www.jpost.co
112 Bravo45 : Delta-flyer! I didn't got the message you want to give. 1- I and most of people would not agree to this. Don't tell me that Israel is not making peace
113 David B. : A neutral media source Im saying.
114 Delta-flyer : Bravo...I didn't got the message you want to give Yes, maybe I was a bit subtle for you. Just wanted to show that the evil Jewish media will also prin
115 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : the photojournalist world thinks they are legitimate The "entire photojournalist world"?? Where did you pull this BS from? The "entire photojournalist
116 Twaneedsnohelp : The palestinian streets are teeming with rage over the bombing death of one of their finest Jew killers,which also took the lives of a few civilans,in
117 Twaneedsnohelp : I cant believe how when Jews are killed the world hardly says a word yet with the deaths of Palestinians the world cant wait to condemn Israel. I unde
119 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : 10 month old Shalhevet Pass Murdered by Palestinian Sniper
120 Post contains images TWAneedsnohelp : Murdered by Palestinians 43 year old Israeli rabbi Elimelech Shapira, murdered by Palestinians as he was driving in the west bank. Survived by 8 child
121 Nik : "I cant believe how when Jews are killed the world hardly says a word yet with the deaths of Palestinians the world cant wait to condemn Israel." This
122 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : Nik... It's not fine, but it might work. Hamas set the rules of engagement buddy. Do you think its fine to kill Jews at will? 4 more murdered today. T
123 David B. : How about those pics of people being murdered by IDF. This "Israel is the victim" crap os getting old. How many "victims" do you know have f-16s? When
124 David B. : The money just like the PLO will be used to fund terrorists like Sharon.
125 Nik : TNNH, "It's not fine, but it might work. Hamas set the rules of engagement buddy." Do you REALLY believe it might work - honestly? So far every Israel
126 David B. : Do you think its OK to kill 14 innocents? Were they human? Do you think its fine to kill Arabs at will? 14 more murdered days ago. Israel and Palastin
127 Post contains links David B. : There are many web sites that are unbias. You want me to quote sources from http://www.halturnershow.com? Thats what your doing. Now, why dont we try
128 ADG : The palestinian streets are teeming with rage over the bombing death of one of their finest Jew killers,which also took the lives of a few civilans,in
129 ADG : TWA, http://www.ipc-ps.info/ipc_a/ipc_a-1/img1/newimage-7_2002/0134-b.jpg http://www.palaestina.ch/images/buriedt.jpg http://www.btselem.org/English/P
130 Delta-flyer : ADG -- I'll just comment on your first remark...Actually, lets try for accuracy here rather than anti-arab racial propoganda. The streets of Palestine
131 Twaneedsnohelp : good call, thanks pete.
132 Post contains links Delta-flyer : Thanks, TNNH - Who's legally responsible for the death of 14 innocent civilians? Read this.... http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/53201.
133 David B. : Israel is...........they amit they did this. There is nothing to say about that. The zionist lobby wants to blame other people. Thats how they all are
134 David B. : At least we agree that sharon is a asshole. While were at war, why not drop a bomb in Israel and Palastine. Kill all the arabs and Jews. The best solu
135 ADG : Delta, Whilst I don't discount your reasoning about the rage, you need to keep in mind that these people have every reason to seeth with rage from atr
136 Twaneedsnohelp : please do post your "responce" to him and his response to you, if any comes. tnnh
137 SAS23 : TNNH, you're breaching the copyright rule with each of those pictures you're posting, as well as in several cases posting pictures that are blatantly
138 Alpha 1 : I see the President and CEO of THI is alive and well, SAS23. I thought you had dropped that idiotic slogan a long time ago. I see...yawn...it's back.
139 Post contains images ADG : and I note you are still seagulling around Alpha1. But to keep us on track ... http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/07/26/gaza.family/index.html This i
140 Alpha 1 : and I note you are still seagulling around Alpha1. ROTFL. Actually, ADG, I find it funny that you seem you MUST respond to me in some fashion, even if
141 Delta-flyer : Whilst I don't discount your reasoning about the rage, you need to keep in mind that these people have every reason to seeth with rage from atrocity a
142 Twaneedsnohelp : and have absolutely nothing to show for the billions the Saudis and other foreign sympathizers have given them. Don't forget that the US gives $100 Mi
143 SAS23 : Hmmmm, TNNH ... a whole $100m when compared with the billions given to the neo-fascist, murdering Israelis doen't exactly amount to a hill of beans. S
144 Alpha 1 : You-impartial, SAS23? ROTFL. I do have a serious question, though, since you did not follow up this piece with any commentary: what do YOU think of wh
145 Nik : "And I think this article should be instructive to those who say that anti-Semitism doesn't exist in Europe. It does, and to deny this is foolish." No
146 Alpha 1 : But do you really think that an article written by a supporter of right wing Jewish groups can prove ANYTHING? Can YOU prove to the contrary, Nik? I r
147 Post contains links Nik : "Can YOU prove to the contrary, Nik?" This man is a very strong Israel-supporter, no? And of course he would do anything to reject criticism of Israel
148 Alpha 1 : This man is a very strong Israel-supporter, no? And of course he would do anything to reject criticism of Israel - including commenting on issues he h
149 Nik : "So he's a strong supporter of Israel-you make it sound like a sin or something." Not a sin. But you cannot just accept what he says as facts - which
150 SAS23 : Alpha 1, two wrongs never make a right. The Israelis are blatantly racist and anti-Semitic towards the Palestinians; yet they are the ones who cry fou
151 Alpha 1 : My biggest gripe with them is that - given their history - they should be the most tolerant of all groups yet the reality is that they are amongst th
152 SAS23 : Alpha 1 - you are forgetting that the State of Israel was born out of Zionist terrorism - Irgun, Haganagh, and the Stern Gang, for example. This terro
153 ADG : Lots of words but again no comment from the Zionist Hugging lobby on the actual issues ... all they appear to do is want to fly in here and label ever
154 Hepkat : Well now I've seen it all. Norway anti-semitic? Excuse me, but anyone who makes such a statement obviously does not get out much. I didn't know whethe
155 Alpha 1 : Lots of words but again no comment from the Zionist Hugging lobby on the actual issues ... all they appear to do is want to fly in here and label ever
156 Post contains images Delta-flyer : SAS23........with the billions given to the neo-fascist, murdering Israelis .... You start your post off like that, do you expect me to read on? You c
157 Twaneedsnohelp : If I were a persecuted Jew, there's nowhere else in Europe I'd rather be than in Norway. I'd take Denmark actually.
158 Post contains images SAS23 : Alpha 1 - don't you think that with its huge arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, coupled with its F16s, main battle tanks, Apache hel
159 Post contains links SAS23 : An interesting article from today's Scotland on Sunday about psychological problems afflicting Palestinian kids as a result of the stress of their env
160 Post contains links SAS23 : ... and another interesting article from the Johannesburg Sunday Times (home to more Jews than Tel Aviv, btw!) which clearly shows that the rest of th
161 SVG : "Well now I've seen it all. Norway anti-Semitic? Excuse me, but anyone who makes such a statement obviously does not get out much. I didn't know wheth
162 Alpha 1 : Alpha 1 - don't you think that with its huge arsenal of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, coupled with its F16s, main battle tanks, Apache hel
163 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : TNNH - I'd take Iceland if it wasn't so darn expensive!! Really nice friendly people and some of the most beautiful girls around! Yeah but the Danish
164 SAS23 : Alpha 1, look up the definition of the word 'arsenal'. I think you'll find that the Israelis are able to be self-sufficient for quite some time if for
165 ADG : I do have a serious question, though, since you did not follow up this piece with any commentary: what do YOU think of what is going on in Scandanavia
166 Alpha 1 : the US aid is just greed on their part, IMO. Frankly, no enemy is likely to attack them as they have weapons of mass destruction that they would not h
167 Post contains images SAS23 : Alpha 1 - the Six Day War was a pre-emptive strike by Israel where they were the aggressor rather than the victim. They carried out a most effective b
168 Post contains images TWAneedsnohelp : Neil, your confused again!! even on a pre-emptive first strike basis, as with 1973. If you ever want to argue that Israel performed a "first strike" y
169 Post contains images SAS23 : Russell, you are of course correct. It was 1967 that the Israelis attacked their neighbours without provocation, and carried out a comprehensive rout
170 Twaneedsnohelp : wrong again NEIL! surpirse surprise. sounds like your still confused, I'll repeat from my earlier thread: It wasn't first strike, the UAR (egypt/syria
171 Post contains images ADG : Did I even ask for your opinion on this, ADG? Again, you step in and answer for someone else. (deja vu) .. funny thing about public forums ... you put
172 Post contains links Delta-flyer : I probably should have let this thread die, but I just read a column that I would like to share with you. It's by Mona Charen, a conservative writer w
173 Alpha 1 : Damn, Delta-flyer, you think she was reading our forum or something! She touched just about every angle we've touched on here. I find myself, not surp
174 Alpha 1 : Russell, you are of course correct. It was 1967 that the Israelis attacked their neighbours without provocation, and carried out a comprehensive rout
175 Post contains images Delta-flyer : Alpha_1.....I was thinking of you and this thread when I read her piece in our local paper this morning! Pete
176 Twaneedsnohelp : Good article, expresses my belief Israel is held tp the highest standard of any country in the world, partly Israel's doing (''...light unto the natio
177 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Alpha_1.....I was thinking of you and this thread when I read her piece in our local paper this morning! Pete Haha. I don't know if that's good or bad
178 SAS23 : What a piece of absolute rubbish that article was. The Israelis never "...stay their hand when a strike will mean the deaths of children. They've gone
179 Hepkat : From the article: It isn't just that the world has chosen sides in a conflict. It is that the free, democratic world has bullied and abandoned a small
180 Alpha 1 : SAS23, exactly what I would expect from you in return. You sound exactly like the propoganda ministry of Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia: any time
181 Bravo45 : Alpha1, It is you who is advocating for Israel, who calls itself the only democracy of the middle ease. And the prime minister of this state is a War
182 Twaneedsnohelp : , tooth for a tooth' vengance (as proposed a while back by TNNH on this forum!); If done truly right, would end this nonsense in a week, just as it di
183 Post contains images TWAneedsnohelp : it is YOU that has the problem, it is YOU that needs to reevaluate your priorities, it is YOU that needs to change, Just like the Jews of Europe in th
184 Delta-flyer : SAS23...Rather, they use the deliberate targetting of civilians (especially women and children) as a weapon of terror against the Palestinians First o
185 Hepkat : TNNH, just what are you trying to prove? I used the word "universal", which in context of the quoted article signifies "the world". That was not the c
186 Silverangel : Delta, TNNH, & Alpha one.... Do any of you disagree that Isreal has a very real struggle (not including their good friend, the USA), when it comes to
187 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : TNNH, just what are you trying to prove? that your point is idotic. Just because it seems like everyone is against you (like the 1940s Jews) don't mea
188 Hepkat : TNNH, you continue to make no sense whatsoever. I posted an effective rebuttal to your arguments, and all you can tell me is that it "don't mean shit"
189 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : awww hepkat. that was mean. Your point is not "effective" not a "rebuttal" and certainly not indicative "of a first rate eduction" and just because yo
190 Silverangel : How come no one answers my question. This I do not like...
191 Post contains images Nik : "Would you disagree that the rest of the world almost seems anit-semetic when it comes to its dealings with Isreal? I am just curious, but it seems li
192 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : "Would you disagree that the rest of the world almost seems anit-semetic when it comes to its dealings with Isreal? I am just curious, but it seems li
193 Delta-flyer : Silver....How come no one answers my question. This I do not like... Well, I just got to your post, so here is my answer. Yes, I agree with you. This
194 Hepkat : The world felt sorry for the Jews for a generation or two on account of the holocaust, but that has faded and now it's back to business as usual. With
195 Alpha 1 : Alpha1, It is you who is advocating for Israel, who calls itself the only democracy of the middle ease. And the prime minister of this state is a War
196 David B. : If it cant be explained it means that it is no there, plain and simple. NO SUCH THING as a worldwide conspiracy The whole world against one country? I
197 Delta-flyer : no one on this forum has been able to explain it. Well, Hepkat, my mother can explain it. She is a holocaust survivor. Since I got her a computer a c
198 Hepkat : Pete, there are admittedly many, MANY prejudiced individuals in this world. Unfortunately, since there's no way to change the heart of man, we simply
199 Bravo45 : Alpha!It's all the rage these days, Silverangel. It's very shiek these days to damn Israel if one civilian is killed in an attack-the Great Gullibles
200 SAS23 : ... no one on this forum has been able to explain it. Actually, they can explain it. Israel is a nation born from terrorism. Even before its conversio
201 Alpha 1 : I will forward your statement to the PA, SAS23. I'm sure they'll use it verbatim in their next press release. I mean, you sound just like them. Unfort
202 Delta-flyer : Hepkat ... you'd have us believe that we're ALL simply, anti-Semitic? No, that's not what I am saying, although it may sound like it. Israel is always
203 Krushny : I just read Mona Charen article. This is pure and simple apology of terror. Her point is basically the same as that explained by many terrorist group
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