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User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5655 times:

I was just wondering for some of the non U.S. people here and most specifically canada...what are the best Universities in your country? The war will forever rage whether Harvard , Princeton , Yale or a list of others is best in the U.S. ...but canada? Queen's? U. Toronto? Waterloo? What about the UK...Oxford, London Economics, Cambridge? Just want some opinions!

Thanks in advance!=)

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User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

Best in Canada? McGill University is without a doubt.

http://www.mcgill.ca

Great school.


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

In Canada? U of Toronto is probably the best IMO. Just look at its faculty members, sheer variety of programs/courses, resources, tradition and reputation. And yes, I go to U of T. Big grin

User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

I went to university in Canada. The best school depends on what your major is. For business, Rottmans (at the U of T) is a good school, especially at the MBA level, and is well recognized outside Canada. Queens also has a good business school, but I think it's overrated. For the undergrad, I think McGill in Montreal and York University in Toronto have the two best business programs. My sister will be attending York this coming year. Both programs are very competitive to get in to. McMaster University in Hamilton is pretty good too, but not as good as York or McGill.

As far as computer science and engineering go, the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Western in London, Ontario and Waterloo in Waterloo, Ontario probably have the best programs. UBC is especially good if you're into programming video games. Electronic Arts even offers a course there. I think it's generally acknowledged that Western is the best engineering school in Canada (and even ranks well compared to U.S. schools) and that Waterloo has the best mathematics program.

Overall, U of T is probably the best mostly because it is the biggest and has the most funding. But I don’t think it is the best in all the programs. However, I believe that UBC is the most difficult school to get into, but that statistic is quite deceptive and doesn’t necessarily mean that it is the best school.


User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5591 times:

What about political science , international relations , and law..in canada that is.

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5577 times:

U of T law is probably the hardest to get into.

As for Int'l relations, Janice Stein is the star professor at the Munk Centre- enough said.


User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

I think U of T has the best political science program and probably the best international relations program, but that falls under general arts. Carleton University in Ottawa also has good political science/arts programs. Law? It would be Carleton, McGill or U of T.

But seriously, dude, unless you’re planning on doing a graduate degree or go into law, it would be absolute suicide to major in political science or any such arts program. I did my minor in poli sci and found it an absolute waste of time.


User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5568 times:




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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

For Engineering, Science, Medicine -- it's McGill all the way! Not to mention a great campus location.

Pete
B.Eng.71


User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5561 times:

Pendrilsaint:

In terms of political science, Queen's University in Kingston, Ont. is quite popular among prospective grad students. For law, it would be the U. of T.

It's important to take several issues into account, not just prestige.


  • Type of city you'd be moving to. Cost of living (and traveling home) varies considerably from city to city. Also, what kind of city fits your style? Large and cosmopolitan, or small and neighbourly?
  • Class sizes. Smaller classes offer more opportunities to get personal guidance from professors as well as to get to know your classmates. This can be useful for networking: the guy you're going for coffee with might be the Premier in 20 years -- especially in the smaller provinces where the networks aren't so vast.
  • Proximity to resources. One huge advantage big-city universities have is their proximity to other universities, plus public libraries, provincial and historic archives and other such treasure troves.
  • Universities' financial situations. Cash-strapped universities won't just have a problem with having up-to-date computers -- they'll often have the same problems with up-to-date library books, etc.



User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5539 times:

It seems like Kingston would be a lovely town to have a college in..and if you wanted the big city you are kind of close to toronto , ottawa , and montreal right? I mean enough for a day trip.

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5519 times:

Kingston's nice... if you don't mind seeing a super-max prison everytime you look out your dorm window.

User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5523 times:

Watewate (what does your nickname mean, BTW?), good answer. I think Kingston's kinda dull. It's closer to Montreal and Ottawa than Toronto. Really close to the Quebec border. I actually dissuaded my sister from going to Queens because I told her I would not visit if she lived in Kingston...it seemed to work.

User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Canada has criminals!?!?! =P jk...is it like...across the street from the campus or something?? gees that really sucks

User currently offlineWorldVoyager From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

I went to meet the chair of political science at Carleton on Tuesday, and basically the impression that I got was a mixed bag. The problem with political science at Carleton is that it falls under the general B.A. category, and Carleton's general reputation is not that great (just go see the Maclean's university publication). This is despite the fact that Carleton is in the nation's capital, and is particularly strong in Canadian politics, international relations, and comparative government of Europe and Africa (but not Asia). Carleton is, however, renowned for its excellent journalism program, as well as humanities and public affairs.

For business, there is no doubt that the best undergraduate program is the HBA program at the Richard Ivey School of Business at the University of Western Ontario. Queen's Commerce program, as well as similar programs at McGill and UBC are also quite reputable.

For health science and medicine, McGill is probably the strongest. I heard somewhere that many McGill medicine graduates teach at Harvard, for example. McMaster's Bachelor of Health Sciences is also very renowned, and it is rumored that Harvard's own med program is based on its techniques. Programs at Queen's, U of T, and UBC are also well known. The University of Guelph is particularly known for agriculture science.

For engineering, Waterloo, McGill, UBC and U of T are among the top. I'm not so sure about the program at Queen's; I heard that they lost their certification recently for a brief period of time.

For computer science, Waterloo is probably on top. Simon Fraser University is also very well known in this field.

For arts, most reputable universities are basically the same. U of T, McGill, UBC, Queen's and Simon Fraser tend to be the top choices for arts students.

By the way, does anyone know how McGill compares for political science?


User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5487 times:

WorldVoyager: Because of your age, I think you have a much better grip of what's going on with Canadian universities than I! I graduated quite a few years ago, so I'm sure much of what I said has changed. Oh hell, back then, the University of Alberta was considered to be among to top in engineering!

I was talking to my sister last night and she confirmed to me that Western has the best business school. You're right. She's apparently choosing York because she liked the way they treated her -- much more individual attention. That may be important in the choice one makes.

As for McGill's political science program, I get the impression that it's quite good. I know a few people who graduated in that program and they generally liked it. However, they graduated a number of years ago, so things may have changed since then!


User currently offlineJAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

Political Science sounds very interesting, but what can one do after they get the Ba? Other than study law...

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

Most people taking PolySci at UofT are doing so in hopes of crossing over to IR or getting into law school.

As for undergrad business programs, I don't think it really matters where you go as long as you attend one of the top tier programs- Western, UBC, York, UofT, and Queens. IMO, university is more about networking and maturing rather than learning. Quality of education at most Canadian universities are quite superb overall; your choice of school should come down to what aspect of university life you value most.


User currently offlineWorldVoyager From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5442 times:

Rai,

Which university did you go to?

The big problem with Western's HBA program is that it's soooo bloody expensive! The tuition is almost $20 000 PER YEAR for the two years you spend in the program. That's quite steep when one realizes that all other Canadian programs in any field cost $5500 or so at the most.


Delta-flyer,

Are you American or Canadian? If you're American, and you don't mind me asking, what made you choose McGill for your degree over American schools?


JAT,

That is EXACTLY the problem that I am facing. Political science sounds really great, but if you want to make decent money, I can't think of anything you can do with a degree except go into law school. Does anyone know what kind of opportunities (if any) exist for political science graduates in the business sector?


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

WorldVoyager,

I know a lot of poli-sci majors hope to secure jobs in the government working abroad. In the private sector, law seems to be a popular choice for those who choose the major.

Btw, not all programs are $5K in Canada. My tuition at UofT commerce this year is $7400.


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

if you want to go to the best college in canada, you can't go wrong at Queens. Kingston is the most charming town, and the school is first rate.

queens by a mile.


User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5418 times:

Worldvoyager: I went to the University of Alberta. DO NOT GO THERE! It totally sucks!! My dad teaches there and he even says it's brutal. I completely regret going to that school, especially when I had the chance to go to some much, much better schools.

Twaneedsnohelp says:
Kingston is the most charming town, and the school is first rate.
Dude, are you fucking kidding me? Have you even been there? Its so freaking boring! Everyone I know who went there (except for this one true geek) ended up transferring. Queens is ranked really high, but it's totally overrated. And this I get from my sister who turned them down and friends who went there.

I'd agree with watewate that U of T is overall the best school in Canada.



User currently offlineNBC News1 From UK - England, joined May 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Overall, UofT is consistenly rated the best university in Canada by numerous different sources.

However, I would not be surprised if UBC became Canada's premier university, in the next few years.

Of the universities in Canada, I would say McGill and Queens are the most overrated while UBC is the most underrated.

I'm entering second year at UofT this September.


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

McGill is always listed as one of the centers of excellence around the world. It`s been consistently ranked with the ivies of the USA (even Harvard). I`m either going to attend McGill or Boston Uni this fall, but IMO McGill outranks UofT anyday. `Besides I`d take Montreal over Toronto anyday!


Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineWorldVoyager From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

Watewate,

Wow, I'm surprised your tuition at U of T costs so much. I was basing my $5500 estimate on good ol' Maclean's Magazine, which shows U of T at $4775, with McGill and Queens in the same league (although I'm surprised to find that UBC only costs $2375!). I had no idea commerce at U of T costs more.

So far, the award for best Canadian university seems to be between McGill and U of T (the Montreal-Toronto rivalry back again!). In my opinion, these are the pros and cons of each:

McGill:

PROS: Excellent worldwide reputation (arguably even better than U of T), in the same league as many private US colleges; 20% international students; great city atmosphere; many excellent programs, much cheaper cost of living than Toronto.

CONS: Tons of bureaucracy; major funding problems; not enough residence; course capping and huge class sizes.

U of T:

PROS: Excellent reputation (although not yet as well known as McGill), rolling in the dough (huge endowment); great city atmosphere; lots of resources and variety of classes and programs; guaranteed 1st year residence.

CONS: City atmosphere of Toronto is arguably not up to par with Montreal; Toronto is very expensive, huge class sizes, impersonal.

Of the two next universities "in line", Queen's and UBC, I would say the choice is easy: who can say no to Vancouver? Big grin


25 Watewate : Actually, not all students pay as much as I do. If I'm right, only BCom, CompSci and CogSci students pay obscenely more than others due to the 'profes
26 United Airline : UBC, Queens, Mcgill, Simon Fraser, York, Waterloo (For Engineering), U of Western Ontario, U of T etc. They are among the best..... Concordia, Carleto
27 FlyboyOz : Hey there, I would like to know which university is the best in Vancouver? Thanks for your time! FlyboyOz
28 Rai : I would like to know which university is the best in Vancouver? UBC...by far. Simon Fraser sucks. And it's not because my ex goes there...
29 NBC News1 : To say that McGill is better known around the world than UofT is outrageous. UofT is far better respected. WateWate.....I am also going into commerce
30 Post contains images Transactoid : Anyone going to Western?
31 Watewate : Wow, fellow UofT'er! I'll probably see you around campus. I'm guessing that you made the cut for second year? I know many students who didn't make the
32 JAT : Watewate, I understand you are taking commerce? How is that program? Is it a lot of accounting and mathematics? What campus are you at? I have to make
33 Post contains images Watewate : JAT, Of the three streams you listed, commerce is probably your best bet to landing a decent job after. If you're applying this coming year, apply for
34 JAT : That Western program looks good, and Westernd appealed to me most of all the Universities. The thing is, I don't want to live away from home, no one I
35 Watewate : St. George is where I'm at. It's also the main campus. UTMississauga offers commerce, too. Atmosphere is not as competitive, IMO. Course selection is
36 Post contains images JAT : St. George is that hardest to get into as well. If all else fails, there's always Ryerson
37 Watewate : St. George isn't that hard to get into. However, your marks will dictate which college you'll get into at U of T. Generally speaking, Trinity has the
38 WorldVoyager : Watewate, How do you like the St. George campus in general? Is it an easy place to get adjusted to? And what do you think about those horror stories o
39 Post contains images Watewate : You're going to get huge classes in your first year of university if you go to any decent-sized school. Biggest classes are usually held at Convocatio
40 JAL : I heard from friends that Concordia University is pretty good.
41 AC320 : My dad graduated from Concordia, he urged me to apply to McGill instead saying that's the place to go, and from what i've heared/seen he's right. sham
42 United Airline : Cambridge and Oxford are the most well known Universities in the UK.
43 Marcus : After reading all the previous posts........what are the best Universities for MBA's in Canada?
44 SAS23 : Concordia offers an IATA Airline Management MBA. Even so, my vote would still go to McGill!
45 Rai : Concordia vs. McGill. My father is a university professor in Canada. He taught at both McGill and Concordia and got his BComm and MBA at McGill. I kno
46 JAT : I was looking at some of the programs U of T offers. I think I'll end up doing economics or something like that. The commerce fields seem a bit too dr
47 Watewate : JAT, You choose your first year courses in late July or August, just before the start of your school year. U of T's massive size gives you an unique c
48 JAT : Another good option as far as work experience is concerned is UofTs Management program at the Scarborough campus. It's academic studying as well as on
49 Watewate : JAT, Most people do 5 credits per year (some 4.5 if they take it easy). All half-year courses count as .5 credit and all full-year courses count as 1
50 JAT : Yes, I'm going to apply to the two, possibly all three UofT campuses in addition to York and Ryerson. Someone should accept me. Do you mind sharing wh
51 WorldVoyager : Rai, Why do you feel that McGill's reputation is not deserved?
52 Watewate : I don't think you can apply to all three campuses. You can only pick a maximum of two from U of T- one has to be from St. George and the other being U
53 JAT : The York BBA seems quite prestigious indeed, although its quite hard to get into. Does UofT offer a BBA program? If so, I haven't heard of it... Do yo
54 Post contains images Transactoid : If you're doing engineering, it's 7 credits/year...
55 Watewate : UofT doesn't offer a BBA programme. It's equivalent is its commerce programme. You may have noticed that entering average for York's programme is quit
56 JAT : Ok, thanks for the info. From yout experience, do the marks/averages of previous years matter to universities or is just the last year important? What
57 Watewate : AFAIK, they only use your OAC averages to determine admittance into their programme. Apparently, they'll only use marks from prior years only to decid
58 AF-A319 : Hey guys! Thanks for your comments! I have been living in Paris since i was born, but I'm moving in 5 days to attend the BCOM program at McGill Univer
59 AC320 : Well I applied to Mcgill's undergraduate program and was rejected unfortunately, don't understand why either. Well, I look to try again in 4 years for
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