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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Well, finally a BMW thread has started.

Anyway, has anyone actually driven the 7 with i-Drive? What's it like? Superficially, it doesn't seem that different. From what I've seen and read just imagine the gear stick being circular and the on board computer controls being circular too. I can't see the big revolution BMW is on about. I dunno, maybe it's very different to drive.

Anyone know?

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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 881 times:

Well, I haven't driven the new 7er, but I tested the I-Drive at the dealer. Actually, I-Drive is only used for the things you use not that often, there are still other buttons for the functions you use very often (e.g. on the steering wheel) while you drive, like rising or lowering the volume of the radio. And of course you have voice control for some functions, say "Play CD" and it plays your cd. With the I-Drive you have vertical menus, push the i-drive into the direction of the menu you want, press it, then select/change the things you want by pushing into their direction and press it again. The display of the I-Drive is also in a very good position, very high, so that you can look at it easily.

Here's a picture of one of those menus:



I think having I-Drive is better than having hundreds of different buttons.
The worst thing about I-Drive is that you don't have a gear stick anymore, just that damn automatic-stick behind the steering wheel  Sad


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 876 times:

So the I-Drive is like the 777236ER of men.....NO STICK.

Signed, Matt D


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 787 times:

Ok 777236ER, since you like to post this stuff in our American car threads, this is for you:



















I hope you enjoyed it.  Smile

 Big thumbs up


-NWA742


User currently offlineJimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 757 times:

I used to work for BMW north america--I've got friends who still work there--there is a 24/7 call center devoted to supporting just iDrive. It's quite a bear I heard--just a bit too confusing for the average individual to deal with. Future BMW products will have less complex iDrive systems.

User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 740 times:

I-Drive is probably too complex for the older people, they are used to just get instructed which button they have to press for the functions they need regularly, and don't use the rest of the features of a car. Still I don't understand how they don't get the point of Idrive. Just push/turn the I-Drive in the direction of your menu, press it, select the function, press it again and you're done. It doesn't get much easier than that.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 732 times:

KROC, it may be stick-less, but it has one giant knob.

Racko, I think I can alter your statement by saying that I-Drive is probably too complex for the average American Big grin. Just look at what they like to drive Sad


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 715 times:

Nothing better than a driver talking on their cell phone speeding down the highway and navigating through a menu on a screen on the dashboard while they adjust the settings of the climate control. Like I've said before, the ultimate driving machine is now the ultimate interfacing machine. How sad.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 702 times:

You can rise/lower the temperature of the climate control on the steering wheel or via voice activation, and you have of course a free-speech system for your cell phone. Again, the I-Drive is not for the functions you use all the time, but rather to control some settings you change just once in a while.

User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 700 times:

And I still don't know why some people think this car is so ugly, just compare it with the crap nwa posted...


And that's just a simple photo and not a manufacturer picture.



User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 661 times:

From what I've seen and read just imagine the gear stick being circular and the on board computer controls being circular too.

If I remember correctly the gear stick is much like a turn signal switch, located on the right side of the steering column. I don't think it was exactly like this, but here is an example of what the operation of the gear selection appeared to me: drive was in the upper position, park was in the center position, and reverse was in the lower position. Neurtral was a button on the end of the stock. The I-control button is circular mounted on the arm rest.
That was the setup last time I saw a picture and read an article about it, so maybe it has been changed since then.

I think I read somewhere that the new 5 series may have I-drive as an option.

Anyways, from what I've seen, I-drive looks really cool. I agree though, it may be harder for older folks to operate. Cool gadget though.

Well, have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
PL


User currently offlineWn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 648 times:

That's right planelover

The 2004 5 series will have a simplified versiosn of the Idrive aboard. As for the system in its current itteration, it's a little intimidating at first, but most of the stuff on it becomes very intuitive after you get used to it.

Captinagomes,

You are right too, but I would guess that most auto manufactorers will head in somewhere like that direction in the next 15 years or so.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 639 times:

I liked the headline of a Mercedes advertisement in the local paper at one point which read:

"I-Drive? No, you drive!"

On a side note, BMW's have been very reliable cars lately, but I've heard some bad stories about the new 7 series already. They are pushing the boundaries too far with respect to comlexity and as a result, user-friendliness and reliability suffer. Hardly what I would consider a high-end experience.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 634 times:

The problem is that they used Windows CE for it. They should have programmed a system or base it on linux...

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