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Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?  
User currently offlineYKA From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 766 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

After spending some time in Poland I noticed that almost everyone here drives cars with standard transmitions. This is the total oppisite of north america where almost everyone dirves automatics. We happen to have a renault 19 with an autmatic gearbox but it was bought in in germany, where I recon there are more automatics. But wherever you look in Europe the standard seems to dominate.

Personaly I preffer automatics, though its also fun to jump in a standard once in a while but I wouldn't want one for every day use.

Which do you perfer?

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User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Standard of course, I don't like the automatic, it reduces the driving pleasure!!!

I have 2 cars, both standard, 5 gears, and I'm happy of them, very happy!!

I would never buy an automatic car.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Manual of course. I hate it if the car shifts for me, I want to have as much control as possible.

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Manual is a pain when you sit in the slow moving queues that occur twice every day, AKA rushhour traffic. These are the times you really want an automatic.
However when driving generally I prefer a manual.

Staffan


User currently offlineKRIC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1251 times:
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Manual transmission all the way  Smile

...No better way to suck the fun out of a vehicle than to equip it with a slushbox. Anything that makes people pay even LESS attention while driving than they already do is a bad thing in my book.


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

I prefer manual! It's too boring driving an auto and takes the plaesure out of the driving(especially in a sports car) 5 speed manual is the only way to go. Performance wise manuals are also slightly quicker- about 0.5-1 sec faster than the same type car auto due to the manual having more torque.

User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

Automatic because it's just plain easier. Manual of course when I start driving semis.

User currently offlineNJTurnpike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Manual. If you're going to drive, _drive_  Big grin

Want a comprimise? Buy something with a Tiptronic gearbox and let it take the strain for you in city driving. Then let rip on the open road.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21479 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

Manual, of course!  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineVictech From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 546 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

I'm paranoid: I prefer the auto for my daily driving--it gives me a better chance to put both hands on the wheel and focus on the situation around me. The less I have to worry about the car's internals, the more I can concentrate on the idiot that's about to rear-end me.

The manual is great if you want to have fun, though...


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

The best solution is probably BMWs SMG - you can either shift on the steering wheel, by pulling/pushing the gear stick without a clutch-pedal, or let it shift automatically.

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

Definately manual. I can't stand the lack of control in automatics.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1207 times:



Gotta love SMG.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Actually, with computer controls, the line between manual and automatic transmissions is starting to blur.

The Ferrari F1 system first found on the F355 sports car is the beginning of the development of transmissions that look like manual transmissions physically but have automatic clutch engagement. This even allows full automatic operation; the F1 and BMW's SMG system works this way also.

As for automatics, CVT systems are finally capable of handling far more power than in the past. Audi's Multitronic CVT that uses a drive chain instead of a metal belt can handle 220 bhp easily; Nissan has produced a CVT based on series of toroidal rollers in a variable-viscosity fluid first on Cedric/Gloria models for the Japanese market (the Infiniti M45, which is based on the Nissan Cedric/Gloria, may have this transmission after the first model year in the USA), and now on the Nissan Murano SUV will definitely have this new CVT.

Yes, the CVT does take some getting used to due to the slipping clutch feel, but it makes it up by being incredibly smooth during acceleration, even more so than the advanced five-speed conventional automatics found on high-end luxury cars nowadays.


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

How long were you in Poland for? I haven't seen you in the forums for ages.

My truck is Manual, I'm not sure if my next one will be manual or automatic.



Word
User currently offlineIB6400 From Mexico, joined Jun 1999, 247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1166 times:

Hi!

Manual... 5 speed... And can't wait to drive a Volkswagen Jetta 1.8T with 6 speeds...!

Manuals aren't that fun in peak hours, though...

Joaquín  Smile
Mexico City



Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset
User currently offlineYKA From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

VonRichtofen, I've been in Poland since december. My computer maninbored fuged up so I cant get any modem to work so I cant use the net from home. The only net acess I have is from an internet cafe which is why i haven't been much at a.net. I'm going to kamloops in october to finish some classes though and I'll try for my ATPL.

p.s It's nice to see some of you old users still around.


User currently offlineB777 From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

I prefer automatic for daily drives simply because there is one thing less to worry about and I can focus my attention of what's going on around me (very important because I live in a state with one of the highest auto accidents in the US). Plus I haven't yet driven a standard (lame I know but I grew up on automatics).

However, for high performance cars, I would prefer manual. Guess I just have to wait till I have the money for a Ferrari (I wish) before I learn to drive a standard tranny.



User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

Automatic all the way.
Chepos



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

For all those who prefer automatics, I just must ask if you're proficient at driving a manual, let alone have ever driven one.

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

When I'm driving this big bad boy I'm thankfull for it's automatic transmission, especially while fighting selfish single-occupant cars in rush hour traffic.



Out of circumstance, I've never had to drive a manual car on a regular basis. It's pretty sloppy and nasty, but I can get one going though.


User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

For power and control, go with the manual.

If you commute to work, go with the automatic.

I'm a commuter and a bracket drag racer. I prefer the automatic for ease of commute and consistency at the track.


User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 869 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

Manual of-course. Driving an automatic, there's just nothing to do.

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