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User currently offlineBarcode From Switzerland, joined Dec 2001, 678 posts, RR: 11
Posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Well, I'm sure some of us hold opinions that may be deemed non pc/incorrect ... even staunch liberal types like myself. What are yours ?

I'd say the following:

1) I believe that orthodox religion is the best form of social control there is - it keeps people from questioning and progressing as a society.

2) I believe that some minorities need to stop throwing around words like " racism " because they didn't get that job, that promotion or whatever. Few people are racist nowadays, and the simple explanation ( ie: said individual was simply underqualified ) is usually the correct one. I've experienced setbacks, but I don't think blaming the rest of the world is an acceptable answer.

3) That slave reparations are silly. By this reasoning I should also claim compensation since gay people in WW2 were exterminated under Hitler's regime, or compensation for the fact gays have been marginalized and I am therefore entitled to government pay outs. I don't buy it.

4) That America needs to spend more on education and less on fast food. How can you spend over $120 billion on fast food in a year and less on the nations education ? It baffles me. Saying that, I think standards need to be raised *everywhere* and not just America.

5) That immigrants need to come in through the proper LEGAL channels. There is only so much SPACE here, and most of them travel through several safe countries before reaching Britain. It shouldn't be easy for anyone to turn up, receive housing, food stamps and a weekly allowance from the government. At the moment, it seems we are taking in people at the expense of our own. I can't support it unless there is a very real and just cause for coming to Britain, and " I don't like it back home " is not good enough.

6) Extremely overweight people should take some personal responsibility. If I see you chowing down on a Big Mac and then wondering why you're 200 pounds, you'd better not get upset by my response. It's only a very small percentage that have genuine medical problems - and a lack of self discipline doesn't count. If I have to discipline myself with regards to what I can spend each month, or the things I can do - then others can do so with their weight.

I think that's it :-], Oh and let's try and keep the flame throwing *out* of here ... I simply want to hear your opinions ... don't worry about offending *too* many people - just deploy some common sense with how you phrase things :-]


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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4506 times:

1)Barcode is actually more than one person.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Sorry to disapoint you. I know you wanted to see that particular bit of action. More controversial beliefs? Hmmmm I can't support it unless there is a very real and just cause for coming to Britain, and " I don't like it back home " is not good enough.

Well where's the line? "I dont like it back home", "I dont have a job back home", "I would be arrested back home", "I would be arrested back home for a controversial belief I have" "I would be arrested and my family would suffer as I'm the bread-winner of the house hold" etc etc. Tell me which of these you would throw out.


User currently offlineBeefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1113 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

I also am getting irritated with all of the "your racist because said somthing that I could possibly interpret as anti african-american" type stuff. I was reading about a white guy that said "shes black and not "shes African-American" and she tried to sue him for saying "black". Then I turn on Comedy Central or BET and I watch at least a dozen black stand up comics who came on and every single one of there jokes were "White people are stupid because..." or "Whats the deal with white people?"

Its a two way street people, If im not allowed to say anything even REMOTELY close to being semi-racist, then you cannot run around saying "Whats the deal with white people? They are so retarded because of the way they dance and eat and talk....."


User currently offlineBarcode From Switzerland, joined Dec 2001, 678 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

" I don't have a job back home " - well let me deport you back and you can get a job.

" I would be arrested back home for a controversial belief I have " - well, that has to be taken in context. Would their belief be deemed acceptable here as well ? Clearly, I would want to help someone oppressed in their own country - I just can't fathom why Britain is the *only* place someone can go to. There are many other countries in the EU that are just as safe ( and have an arguably better standard of living than Britain ) - so why not go there ?

As long as it's done through the appropriate legal channels then I don't take issue with it - it's when people hitch a ride on the Eurostar, or turn up on a boat expecting things that gets me ... if your case is genuine, there are ways in ....



User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Got Beefmoney, dont say semi-racist things, those things only pull you down to the level of those racists. There are many things on TV, radio that are racist. JUst change to another channel or stop watching. Thats what I do and im happy with it.


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

My controversial belief is...Most of you that post on this site are on some sort of anti-depressant medication and one day you will all just *SNAP*!

Here's hoping that 'ol Clipper is nowhere near you!

CH




"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineBarcode From Switzerland, joined Dec 2001, 678 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Oh dear god. An e mail from another user just prompted me to realise how my religion comment can be construed. I am *not* religious - I'm a hardened atheist. Take it to mean " I think religion is a form of social control and therefore I couldn't care less for those who are deluded enough to worship an existential being for which no tangible evidence exists. "

I'm *not* espousing that we should all go around reading The Bible and living in the stone age. Goodness .... just thought I would clear that up.


User currently offlineBeefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1113 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

Dont worry David B. I change the channel as soon as I can. But I try never to say any racist and semi-racist things unless I absolutely have to, because I dont feel like getting sued. Smile

User currently offlineLufthansaUSA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 188 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

Drugs should be legalised. Everybody knows what happened with prohibition in the USA, why are drugs any different? Anyway, we can use the tax money spent on anti-drug wars on "Don't take a hit and drive" billboards, and we'll have fewer over-crowded jails. No, I don't do drugs, and I never have
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User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

1.)I believe that God exists.

2.)I believe that the existence of the state of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesy, and is evidence that God is still in control.

3.)I believe the Jews have a God-given right to the land of Israel.

4.)I believe the Jews are God's chosen people.

5.)I believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, another fulfillment of Biblical prophesy, God incarnate, the "son" of God, risen from the dead, and able to forgive the sins of the world.

6.)I believe people are inherently selfish, and evil.
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When I was contemplating a life without God I came up with a few beliefs that I do not necessarily agree with not that God is in my life. Here they are.

7.)No law set up by humans is worth being followed by the atheist or heathen because no human is inherently better than another.

8.)No earthly threat is sufficient to keep a being from doing what they want to do. All human incarceration facilities are finite, and can be escaped. Even when confined one's mind is free. And death comes to us all, just as good to die doing what you want than slipping in the shower and busting your head open.

9.)Humans should be able to go anywhere on the globe that they want, hold a job, and buy property anywhere they wish. Boundaries only appear in the mind of man.

10.) Government should be a thing of the past because every person is an individual, and nothing is really wrong apart from God, so why have so many laws?


User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

I believe Jessman has some interesting beliefs.

User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

On a lighter note I believe that I am the only sane person, and everyone else is insane  Smile

User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

I believe you're mistaken; I'm sane too.

User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

My controversial belief is that the conventional wisdom as to AIDS is incorrect. Specifically, its doctrine that AIDS is caused by HIV is wrong or at best only somewhat correct. IMO HIV simply co-exists with AIDS in many circumstances. Factually, AIDS appears in cases where HIV is not present and many people never develop AIDS who have HIV. If AIDS were so easily spread by heterosexual non-drug users as the politically correct/pharmaceutical company --- influenced AIDS czars would have us believe, AIDS would be an epidemic in America and Europe, when in fact it is a relatively 'minor' killer in terms of numbers. AIDS remains today what it has always been - a disease of homosexual men and/or drug users.

My mentors in this belief are Kary Mullis, 1993 Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry, and Professor Duesberg at Cal-Berkeley.

http://www.VirusMyth.net
http://www.duesberg.com/
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/perthgroup/index.html
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/
http://pages.prodigy.net/johnhunter2/hivaids.htm

kind regards,

RogueTrader


User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

Everyone has to believe in something.

I believe I'll take a nap.

Jetguy


User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

Dont worry David B. I change the channel as soon as I can. But I try never to say any racist and semi-racist things unless I absolutely have to, because I dont feel like getting sued

Soooooooo if it wasnt for the fear of getting sued then you would say them? Is that what your telling me?



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4399 times:

David B.; Stop busting on beefmoney. He has made a valid point that there exists a double standard concerning racism. Blacks are allowed to hate whitey, the honkey who's putting them down; but whites have to lift the black man up through affirmative action, and pay them because of slavery. Black people are allowed to have a separate but equal miss black america, and the black family reunion, and the united negro college fund, society of Black engineers. It would be frowned upon for whites to have these types of institutions, and a white person who tried to establish such things would most likely be sued. Beefmoney noticed that, not that he would say anything racist anyway.

You know what, though. I don't care. White, black, asian, yellow, mixed, they are all people and God loves them all. I don't care if I am judged because of the color of my skin because I know God loves me. I don't judge people because of the color of their skin because I know God loves them too.


User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4380 times:

Hey I dont have beef  Big thumbs up


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

....Black people think alot of things are racist.

-when tamyra got kicked off american idol, jesse jackson held a press conference because he thought the votes were altered to get rid of the black girl.

....black people pick out names by pulling letters out of the scrabble bag one at a time and there you have it, there name.

....fat people should pay for 2 seats on an airline flight.

....mini vans should be illegal. Big grin



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

"I think religion is a form of social control and therefore I couldn't care less for those who are deluded enough to worship an existential being for which no tangible evidence exists. "

I couldn't have put the first words better, but something about the last sentance confuses me. I believe, logically that religion IS social control, that is until someone doesn't agree with the rules, and creates there own set of rules (which in time, will become a religion, but there isn't much chance with TV and the internet now). Could you care? I mean.. Do you not care about people who worship an un-worshipped being? Do you not care that they are blinded by faith.. or what? hmm.

Yeah.

If I had a better vocabulary I coulda put that so it made sense (note to self: read more books).


User currently offlineBeefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1113 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

Thanks for sticking up for me there Jessman. And Im glad you dont have any beef David B. Smile

I also agree on most everything Jessman said in his 1st post. But I had to get that first thing off my chest first Smile


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4293 times:

You guys have to remember that when you say "I believe..." in something/someone then only you believe it and, furthermore, it is also un-believable, that is, it is a belief and not absolute with everyone or everything.

Example: if one person say, "I believe in God" someone else can say, "I do not believe in God"; both are correct. That does not mean that there is or is not a God. That is how beliefs are, the sway, they are never permanent, or absolute.

And just because I am in the mood:

Main Entry: be·lief
Pronunciation: bii-'lEf
Function: noun
*Etymology: Middle English beleave, probably alteration of Old English gelEafa, from ge-, associative prefix + lEafa; akin to Old English lyfan
Date: 12th century
1 : a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing
2 : something believed; especially : a tenet or body of tenets held by a group
3 : conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence
synonyms BELIEF, FAITH, CREDENCE, CREDIT mean assent to the truth of something offered for acceptance. BELIEF may or may not imply certitude in the believer [my belief that I had caught all the errors]. FAITH almost always implies certitude even where there is no evidence or proof [an unshakable faith in God]. CREDENCE suggests intellectual assent without implying anything about grounds for assent [a theory now given credence by scientists]. CREDIT may imply assent on grounds other than direct proof [gave full credit to the statement of a reputable witness]. synonym see in addition OPINION



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 4249 times:

I believe Lephron needs a life  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

Regards,
Chris  Smile


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 4246 times:

I belief Jessman needs to stop talking about GOD so much!!!!!

Jeremy


25 Post contains images IMissPiedmont : Barcode, you are going to make me cry with the following, "If I see you chowing down on a Big Mac and then wondering why you're 200 pounds, you'd bett
26 Post contains images Twaneedsnohelp : my controversial belief: Israel should survive.
27 Barcode : Well, if you don't LOOK fat then there's no problem is there ... I'm talking about when people are obviously busting out of the seams beyond the " ple
28 NormalSpeed : My controversial belief: I like to play golf, but I think golfers are really annoying, so I hesitate to call myself a golfer. 'Speed
29 We're Nuts : a God-given right That is a scary belief.
30 Cfalk : Interesting topic... I believe: 1) That God exists, but that He has gone on to other things, and we are basically on our own during our lifetimes. 2)
31 Ryanb741 : My controversial belief that I am fed up about the number of women who dress up like hookers and then complain when they get raped. I am not advocatin
32 4holer : So you want controversial, eh? Well, since it's been pointed out to me on the "Who would you like to sit between" thread that anything I would do with
33 Lehpron : "I believe that this nation [USA] should commit itself..." - John F Kennedy.
34 Lehpron : I believe that ex-A.net member "Hairyass" was a: Main Entry: myth Pronunciation: 'mith Function: noun *Etymology: Greek mythos Date: 1830 1 a : a usua
35 GD727 : You want controversial? 1. I think that political correctness is a heap of sh*t. How's that for controversy? -GD727
36 Post contains images Heavymetal : 1. I think a growing population of benign gay people are nature's counter-balancing weight to overpopulation and rising human aggression that when tea
37 Us330 : I believe that the US Government assasinated, or played a major role, in the assasination of JFK. I believe that missionairies, even though they do so
38 IMissPiedmont : Hi Barcode. I was teasing you a bit. I was not really offended. Steve
39 Post contains images Beefmoney : Funny you say that (#9) Heavymetal. Jesus says in the Bible that some of the people and churches were/are making him want to vomit. So you are correct
40 Post contains images Jessman : I believe the sight of baby peas makes me want to vomit
41 Post contains images We're Nuts : Quite the conspiracy theory buff, eh Us330?
42 Heavymetal : That Congress and the US Government on the whole is corrupt and that many technological and eco-friendly advances have been halted because of these de
43 Maiznblu_757 : I didnt know it was controversial until I posted it on here... A lot of folks jumped down my throat... I believe KTVC WILL see NW A320's... They said
44 Heavymetal : I'd back up Maiz on that. Remember, 2/3rds of the "baby boom" hasn't even retired yet. And more and more, northeast and midwest retirees are saying to
45 Seb146 : I believe people should stop blaming others for their own demise. If someone eats at only fast food places all their life, smokes, and never exercises
46 BNE : Some may have been covered but here goes. 1. African and third world countries should look after themselves, why do they need the west to help them in
47 Dasa : People are idiots. __________________________________________________________________ Das.A
48 Us330 : Hey, better to be open-minded and sometimes wrong, then close-minded and always right! More of mine: Pickles should be exterminated from the Earth. Ot
49 Airways1 : I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words, but here goes... 1. I think deliberate misinformation should be outlawed. Anyone making any claim
50 Ben : I believe that there is shagging and flying (in no particular order)... and everything else is a necessity of life, something that just has to be done
51 777kicksass : Barcode you are a clever person! I agree totally with the whole religion thing - In Tudor England (I think, anyway hundreds of years ago) the church o
52 Donder10 : I think religion is a form of social control and therefore I couldn't care less for those who are deluded enough to worship an existential being for w
53 777kicksass : Oooh got another one the US government are with holding sooo much information from the public. Immature as I may be I believe that the moon landings w
54 707cmf : 777kickass > that's quite illogical (but then, it's meant to be controversial) Why would the Moon Landing have been faked ? Would that be because US d
55 Silverangel : 7. I believe the SR-71 Blackbird was a direct result of non-terran technology. Well I am now way less intimidated by space-aliens then... I think inhe
56 Heavymetal : In fact, I think the Gov't should do away with inheritance & capital gains taxes as well. It's ironic that one of the most vocal supporters of the est
57 Srbmod : 1. That the government is a hypocrite to the inifinite power. Ethnic nationalists and radicals are allowed to speak their minds and incite their cause
58 777kicksass : About the moonlandings - No, there wanted to prove they had the technology to beat Russia to it! I saw a documentary which did provide some conclusive
59 Bruno : Srbmod I get into an argument with a black coworker, and let the "n" word slip out, I get shown the door. Dude, you are an idiot and I am glad they fi
60 Lubcha132 : well, let's just say i have an idea of what to do with the palestinians. not the doctors and people who are just caught up in things.
61 Post contains images We're Nuts : I have an idea of what to do with the Israelis, and it doesn't involve another billion dollar "gift".
62 Superfly : There is NO such thing as God's chosen people. We are all God's creations and are loved equally by God. Anyone or any group of people that feel that t
63 Post contains images We're Nuts : I think that it is important for young ladies to bond sexually with one another and share there experiences with there boyfriends and husbands. Ummm..
64 Post contains images Hamfist : Hmmm...where to start? I believe in the death penalty in concept, but I find it hard to support because I don't think it will ever be applied fairly.
65 NormalSpeed : That Michael Jordan was the biggest whiner ever to play the game of basketball, with the possible exception of Shaq. 'Speed
66 Us330 : Modern and Pop Art, with the exception of Lichtenstein, is a total joke. If a four year old can do it, than it shouldn't be done by an adult, and the
67 FSPilot747 : I believe that there is no such thing as peace, when it is based off injustice. It's not a controversial line until it is placed in context with a cer
68 David B. : I believe some of you should get a freaken life
69 NormalSpeed : That America should get out of the U.N., and kick them off our soil. 'Speed
70 NormalSpeed : That Rush Limbaugh is conservative, but not right-wing (which one could easily find out by listening to his radio show), and is 95% right. 'Speed
71 QANTASforever : I'm not going to elaborate or defend anything I'm about to put up so dont even bother to change my mind about this stuff cos its set in concrete: Aust
72 David B. : I think humans are a disgrace to nature.
73 We're Nuts : Limbaugh would make sense -- if capitalism weren't doomed to failure. And this failure will come after a nature disaster, sometime within the next two
74 IMissPiedmont : "Other than tuna, no other fish or seafood has any taste or redeeming qualities about them for human consumption." It appears that Us330 has never has
75 CO 757 200 : Certain feminists need to get a life and stop trying to force certain schools (such as the Citadel) to be co-ed.......How come it's all right to have
76 Mcdougald : 1. People who are educated, employable and able to pass a security check should be able to easily move between countries, even to shop around for a co
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