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Sunshine Is Not Weather.  
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 933 times:

Weather implies something other than sunshine, as it is default, sunlight touches over 99.99% [I admit my ignorance for not knowing all 100%  Smile ] of earth's surface, therefore it is not weather. Rain, hurricanes, blizzards, tornados, storm force winds, etc. don't occur everywhere; therefore they are weather. Sunlight can only be weather IF, somehow, it does not shine somewhere for a very LARGE majority of the time. I don't know where that is, again, I don't know about the 0.01% that I am completely wrong about this.


*Using "the poles" as an argument wont work because the sun shines there 6 months a year, which is 50%. Besides, it still shines there anyway, they do have winds and it's cold as hell -- that is weather.

*Using "what about life under the deep ocean" won't work because only humans have been known to complain (I mean whining without asking) about the weather, all other forms of life don't care because, like nature, they go with it. I am not saying that they don't complain, I am sure they do, it is just that we are too full of ourselves most of the time to notice them, in general of course.

*Using the idea that "sunlight creates weather, and therefore it is" might work, I’m a little iffy on that. That is like since/if God created us, we become God.  Insane



So in conclusion: Sunshine is not weather, it is the lack of, it is why we are even on this planet to being with. Without it, we could die, we can live without the other stuff for a while don’t you agree?


Well, unlike most San Diegans, who are spoilt rotten with paradise, and complain about a few days of beach-fog! Heck, this one time in 1998, they got into 95 auto accidents because of light mist!! Everyday I prayed for hell to happen over there, they need to learn somehow, know what I'm saying?



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 909 times:

HA! Lephron, you are obviously trying to introduce some type of propaganda mission here!!  Laugh out loud Now, I don't know what they are telling you down in the center of the earth, but sunshine is indeed weather!! For example, when you hear a weather forecast, you will hear partly sunny or mostly sunny. Now then, the lack of rain or clouds or rain can be considered a weather event! If there are clouds or rain, there is a saturation of the atmosphere, correct? If there is sunshine there is a lack of saturation of the atmosphere. So, if there is sunshine, are you saying there is no atmosphere? HA! I think not! Big grin

In conclusion, I have exposed this propaganda to the world reducing your theory to a puff of smoke!

Here's hoping you receive this as my attempt at a humorous reply..  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 887 times:

I would say this post cost me 2 minutes of my life. 2 minutes I'll never get back, but I won't, because I don't want to get a deletion notice.

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 879 times:

"you will hear partly sunny or mostly sunny"

Meteorologists' aren't being specific enough to support you. All that means is whether you see sun light or not in the coming days. Besides, they know the general public is stupid, they are not going to tech you out. All people want to know is if going the the beach was worth it.

"So, if there is sunshine, are you saying there is no atmosphere? HA! I think not!"

The sun acts independent of whatever happens on earth (for the most part if you consider the mass ratio at least). The earth depends on the sun, our atomosphere is not part of the sun, it is the medium in which weather is formed. Big grin

Please don't use the arguement "what about solar wind?"  Yeah sure It is not physical wind. It's magnetic, or ionic, I donno but it is not weather!

KROC, what does a deletion notice have to do with you getting 2 minutes returned to you, if possible?



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineVictech From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 546 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 876 times:

In other news, 99% of Floridians disagree...

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 867 times:

um...alrighty then.

Most Floridians are spoilt rotten with paradise too, just becasue you like sunshine does not mean that is becomes ,by some devine right, weather!




The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 852 times:

I disagree. (hey, I wasted my 2 minutes; might as well not be in vain)

You're saying 'weather' directly refers to an entity that gets between the sun and Earth such as a storm. I say 'weather' refers to the condition of the outdoors at any given moment. This would include the existence of such an entity as well as the absence of it. Its similar to the word 'health'. Someone's health is determined by the existence or absence of disease, not the disease itself. If someone is not sick, would you say they have no 'health'? Same concept, IMHO.



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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 853 times:

AWspicious picks up the phone and dials Superfly's number:
~ring ring~ Hello?
"Yo, Soup! Look out da winder n tell me wat da weather's like."
Um... It's sunny and warm, man.
"Good enough for me." "Later!"
~click~
End of conversation!



p.s. Lehpron; I see where you're going with this, but, trying to change people's opinion on this is like trying to teach the US the metric system. It may make all the sense in the world, but, in the end, it all boils down to habit. ("That's they way we've always done things 'round here, boy.")

Peace


User currently offlineLubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 840 times:

it makes sense...you have a good point...i like the way you look at things (at least these types of things i dunno your views on other stuff)

J


User currently offlineVictech From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 546 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 832 times:

Webster tells us that "weather" means "the state of the atmosphere". When it is clear outside, and the sun is over the area of the earth where you are, the visible state of the atmosphere is sunny! Additionally, I would argue that a lack of weather would equal an absence of atmosphere. As long as you have atmosphere, you have observable weather indicating the atmosphere's state...and, I again posit that "sunny" is a possible state (or rather one of the two possible substates of "clear", the other state being "dark").

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 825 times:

Health you say? I'll spare you the definition for now...





Sunshine is a condition of weather, but not a weather phenomenon itself; it's an environmental operator.

Jet Service: "This would include the existence of such an entity as well as the absence of it."

Were you implying that "no sunshine" should also not be weather or the opposite? Weather on earth requires sunshine; without it there is nothing. Though, it would be pretty darn cold, like in space. But then that it has to be a default as well since a vast majority of the universe's volume is a cold vacuum.

Hold up...Sunshine cannot be weather on earth, but it can be”weather" with respect to the universe as it is definitely not in the majority of occurring phenomenon. Hmm, is this a contradiction or a new point?  Confused



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineKcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 822 times:

As in a famous quote from Dick Goddard, famous Cleveland weatherman; "I got a call today from a very distraught viewer who said: 'Hey I just shoveled 6 inches of your party sunny outta my drive way! You people don't know what you're talking about!'"

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 803 times:

Lephron, weather is a condition as stated above. The absence of anything is still a condition. No sun? Sure! We have weather at night don't we?


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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 783 times:

Yeah we have weather at night but only because of the sun's heating of the Earth during the day creating frontal systems etc. If the suns rays did not shine at all then there would be no weather. Speaking of sunshine how about Solar Flares? Predicting solar flares on the sun is now becoming a science although they are very difficult to predict. Remember the 1989 solar storm that blacked out many parts of North America?

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 760 times:

Positive, the point is sunny-conditions isn't a default. The weather can be clear at night (moony conditions?). Without the sun, the atmosphere still has a condition. But then again, if no one is around to feel it, know cares what the weather's like. Big grin


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