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Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning?  
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4711 times:

11 September, 2002

"Where were you when the world stopped turning, on that September day?"

Do you remember what you were doing on September 10th, 2001?

It seems like another place in time, doesn't it? I can tell you that I have no clue what I was doing on September 10th, 2001. There's no memory of that day at all in my mind.

But we all remember what we were doing on September 11th, 2001.

There are events in our lives-personal ones, or events in our world, that shape and sculpt our existence. Personally, it can be your wedding day, or the birth of your first child, and, suddenly, you can't remember what life was like before that. And there are events that define not only our personal existence, but those that define us on a broader scale as human beings: in this country, such events have been Pearl Harbor, the deaths of Presidents Roosevelt and Kennedy, the Challenger Disaster-and, of course, September 11th, 2001.

It seems like nothing really existed before 8:46am, Eastern time that day. I do remember being on here, reading the online edition of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and my youngest son was watching the Disney Channel. A friend from Los Angeles came on IM and told me to turn on the news.....and the world was changed.

We all know the events of that day: the horror, the confusion, the feeling, at least here in the States, that the world was indeed coming to an end. All that has been recorded for history, and I won't go over the individual or collective events of that day. But whether we all like it or not, we have changed. Our outlook on the world has changed. For many of us, our very existence have changed. And, each of us recall that day in our own ways, and have drawn our own lesson from that day.

What are some things I've thought of since that day of infamy? Seeing the images from New York, I came to realize, maybe for the first time, how really fragile and fleeting life is, and how precious life is. Seeing the images of fireman, EMT's and Police officers running INTO the burning buildings, I also am more aware that, as precious as life is that, sometimes, random acts of mercy and kindness are even more important than life itself. I can imagine giving up my life to save my wife or any of my three children, but for strangers, as those people did that day? I do not think I could be as courageous and selfless as those men and women.

I was not in New York, Washington or Pennsylvania that day, but the effects have been felt by me personally and by colleagues. Shortly after these events, many of my colleagues were laid off of work. The effects of September 11th, combined with the already-slowed economy have devastated the airline industry-far more than people outside the industry will ever believe. I saw the frailty of life in that event. When you see the looks on a friends face seconds after they found out they're not going to be at work the next week; the desperate hugs of a close friend, when she knows her job is gone. Maybe not as devastating as the events of September 11th, but devastating to them and their life. Again, even events such as these show how fleeting our existence is in this frail, small planet.

I saw in the immediate aftermath the heroic strength that was felt far beyond the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and Shanksville. It was self-evident in the massive line to give blood at our local center-so long that my wife and I couldn't even get in to give ourselves; it was evident in the thousands of candlelight vigils that very evening, as American came together to grieve and console each other; it was evident when firefighters from around the country put out firefighter boots in cities and towns, collecting money for their fallen comrades in New York City; it was evident when colleagues of an air traffic controller in Boston, who's wife was on American 11 and was killed-just two months before his retirement-gave up THEIR vacation and sick time to him, so that he could make it to retirement following her death; it was evident in the renewal of pride of patriotism in our nation-the belief that, however imperfect America is, it's people still see it, as their 16th President once said "the last, best hope of the Earth."

I think of how fate plays such an important role in such events. I have a cousin who is a Vice President in her company. On Friday, September 7th, her 8:30am meeting in the World Trade Center for Tuesday, September 11th, was changed to 8:30am on Wednesday, September 12th; a friend of mine, and a member of this forum, volunteered to be bumped off a DL flight going EWR-SFO, and, being a Gold Elite on SkyMiles, offered to take the next DL flight First Class, instead of the flight offered by DL that day-United Flight 93. I have another cousin who's wife is a Commander in the United States Navy. She was in the Navy Wing of the Pentagon that day-one seciton away from where AA 77 crashed into the Army wing. Perhaps, had she been appointed to attend the Military Acadamy at West Point all those years ago, instead of the Naval Academy at Annapolis all those years ago, she might be dead. Those things leaped to my mind that night, as I lay in bed, trying unsuccesfully to get some sleep, and to shut out the gruesome images of that day.

All of us on here have our own different "take" on the fallout of that day, a day that has, like so few before it, put a stark mark on history. And, those arguments, gentle sometimes, rancorous at other times, let us save for another day, and another time. Today, no matter what our beliefs about the aftermath of 9/11/01, need to be set aside. Today, they are not what is important. Remembering the horror and the agony-and the heroicism, of that day, is what should be paramount in our thoughts, and, for those of us of a faith, in our prayers for the dead, those left behind, and those of us who are left to contemplate.

Many abroad-and a few at home-have asked "why can't Americans move beyond 9/11?" Well, we are moving beyond that fateful day. But, on this day-the first anniversary of an event that changed the world, I ask those of you abroad, and at home who wonder about this, no matter what side of the debate you've been on, to allow us this day to mourn; to reflect; to take stock of our lives and our country; to pray to our God, if we so believe in one, or to silently contemplate, if we don't believe in God. Do not use this day, I beseech you, to use as a day of argument, but as a period free from such rancor. Lord knows, we'll have other days for that-but not today. Let us dedicate this as a day of peace and remembrance. Maybe, if we do that, we'll find in each other, a part of our common humanity, no matter what side we find ourselves on in the raging debates of the time.

Let me and my fellow Americans who want to mourn and to remember, have this day for ourselves to pray, to grieve, and to reflect on that mind-numbing day and the year that has passed. We are moving forward, but we need this day to stop and look back at the year just passed.

Alpha 1

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User currently offlineM.seles_fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 4625 times:

I remember last year clearly. September 8-9 I had Drill at the guard base. After work on the 9th I went over my friend's house, and we went to TGI Friday's for dinner. The next morning, the 10th, I drove home and laid around the house. On the 11th I woke up and I was on the computer (on airliners.net I clearly remember) when my neighbor called from her work. She asked me if I had the TV on. I said, "No." She said we were being attacked, and that two hijacked planes flew into the WTC buildings. I was like, "Whaaaaaaaaaat." I hung up with her and turned on the TV. After watching it for a while I called a lot of people to talk to them about it. I remember I went to the gas station up the street and bought a pack of cigarettes. My sister was let out of work early, and I went with her to her apartment where we watched more coverage with her boyfriend. The rest is history. I remember being depressed and angry. Tomorrow at school they are cancelling classes from 12:00-12:45 so students can attend a memorial service on campus.

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 4616 times:

i remember well too. i was just getting settled living in my fraternity at college, had been there about 2 weeks, and as i was waking up at 930 i guess, my buddy sean who lives downstairs ran up to my room to tell me i had a call on the housephone, which is peculiar because my calls usually come in on my cell phone.

so i went downstairs and it was my best friend dave at tufts telling me the world trade center had been hit by a plane and he was concerned because he knew i had worked there that past summer (for the PANYNJ on the 65th floor of 1wtc). I thanked him, we hung up and i walked into room 4, the major social bedroom in my fraternity house, and the two guys who live there sean and seth were waking up. i told them the news and neither believed me. they yelled at me in fact for saying something like that. so we turned on CNN and stared in disbelief. soon the entire fraternity was awake and huddling around the tv in room 4.

over the next hour we went to class and the building where most of my classes were at that time was a chaotic riot, everyone on the cell phone, girls crying, people frantic, everyone crowding around the tv in mac's one of the hotel school cafes. unbelieveable, i hope to never forget that feeling.

went to my accounting class that tuesday and our professor said a prayer and held a moment of silence. then we did accounting.

at 1:25 went to my Middle Eastern Modern History class with my palestinian professor samer allatout. most of the class was there and we gathered around and listened in silence as he discussed islamic fundamentalism and al qaida.


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2736 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 4601 times:

Congrats Alpha1 you are now getting the reaction you so clearly want,

"...when the world stopped turning, on that September day?"

The world stopped turning ???? I am going to vomit now.

You've been reading those Danielle Steel novels again haven't you ?

Corrections, the world hasn't changed and airlines were on the ropes before 9/11.

" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineMark2102 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

I was in 1st period Spanish class and it was my Sophomore year of high school. The bell for the end of Period 1 rang at about 9:20 AM EST. As I walked out of the classroom, I hear a kid yelling "Shit, a ****** plane just crashed into the World Trade Center." I thought he just wanted attention. I get to my second period class about a minute later which was just down the hall and I see the T.V. I just stood there for around 20 minutes trying to comprehend what just happened. It was very overwhelming. I thought it was all a joke. When I was watching CBS 2, they had the cameras from the helicopter on the burning buildings. So when the building collapsed, I thought it was a scientific movie and could not believe it. After that period ended, I went around telling all my friends and they thought I was out of it. I never before felt the way I did at 9:20 AM EST on 9-11-02. That had to be the longest day of school ever. When I came home from school, I thought it was all a dream. I asked my parents if they had heard what had happened. They told me yes and could not believe it.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

I wasn't planning to respond to this thread, and after this, I will not be posting until the 12th, if then, because the Alpha's are going on a trip, but you're post compels me to speak.

First off, those aren't my words, in the title of the thread. It's a song by American Country singer Alan Jackson, Pacificjourney.

Secondly, I'm not looking for any reaction from anyone. What I said-all of it-comes from the heart, Pacificjourney. As this date has gotten closer, this anniversary has gotten closer, I didn't expect the reaction within myself that I've gotten, but it's there. I came very, very close to losing 2 family members and a friend, who, by the grace of God and a little luck, were not in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You can believe me or not, my friend, but that is the truth. And we can argue about the airline business on the aviation forum another day if you like.

Again, I wish all of you a little peace on this day that is now about to start in the U.S.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

ALpha 1- Thank you for this very well written thread.. It is nice to see them once in a while..

What I was doing on 9-11..

I was at home asleep.. My roommate called me from work, "Holy Shit!!! Chris!! Turn on the TV!! 2 jets just crashed into the trade towers!!" I was thinking ohh kayyyy.. so I turned on the TV, and honestly thought I was dreaming.. I went back to sleep.. He called back.. "Dude!!!!!!! THe Pentagon was hit!!!" I turned on the TV, and saw it, thought to myself.. "The world is gonna end, may as well sleep.." so I did.. He called back again to tell me about PA, and I just siad OK I'm getting up now.. I watched TV In the front room for a while, called my dad, and all he could say is "Tt HAS to be Osama Bin Laden.. He's the only one with the $$ and resources to pull this off." I went upstairs to the 3rd level and woke up my neighbors, (I wasn't dressed yet) and we all just sat in Jeff's room watching TV.. Numb as hell.. We saw them come crashing down.. Katie and Teale (Their g/f's) Came over and just sat with us. for I dunno how long.. I went to work that day, but it was all like a blur...

PacificJourney, I am appaled, disgusted, sickened, and so much more at your post.. No need to vomit, I already have.. Tell ya what.. Gimme your mail addy and I'll ship some to ya..

Most of us who have been here since last year remember this thread..

I will never forget it.. Neither will any of us.. May God (or whoever you believe in) watch over the souls that perished that day.. And, as an American, it may shock you to hear this, but I don't HATE Bin Laden.. I hate what he did to our country, I hate what he did to our economy, but him? no.. I feel sorry for him. I pity him.. Because if we catch him here, and torture him or whatever, nothing will be nearly as bad as what he will catch after he dies.. That will be his TRUE punishment.


Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6470 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

My personal life has not changed at all in the past 365 days. I do indeed feel for those that lost a loved one on September 11, 2001 I but most of us have been through the same loss.
Professionally I am busier and earn 15% more.
Tomorrow I shall studiously ignore all the false patriotism and "moments of silence."

If I see one more US flag flying in the rain or unlit at night I'm afraid that I will be forced to knock on the persons door and explain proper flag etiquette.

I am glad I was around to fly before de-regulation.
User currently offlineApathoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

I was stuck in Phoenix at Honeywell school. Away from my very frightened wife and kids. With no way to get home. I will not apologize for saying it was absolutely horrible and I will never forget that day nor forgive those who did it to us. I don't want to understand them, I just want to watch them all breath their last. God bless America, again.

User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

I was sitting somewhere at FL350 in a NW 757 somewhere over Ohio. My coworker and I were taking a DAY TRIP to BOS, as we took the 7am flight out and were going to take the 7pm flight home. We went with the clothes on our back (I brought some reading materials, my cell phone charger and stuff for my contact lenses). My coworker notices we did a big 180-degree turn in the air. The captain announces that the airline had been the target of an unspecified terrorist threat and that the whole fleet was being grounded immediately as a precaution. The first thing on my mind was what was in the cargo holds below. What if there was something down there that was going to be the end for us all? All I thought is that if that was the case I hope I am incinerated before I know what happened and don't live to fall from this altitude. We were diverted to DTW as that was the closest place to land. On the jetway in, a guy is looking at his web browser on his cell phone and says something about a plane crashed into the Twin Towers in New York. I'm thinking this was an accident. Moments later I hear some lady in the terminal exclaiming about how a plane had crashed into the Pentagon. At that point it became clear that this was no accident. At this point I ended up in a panic over what my future was going to be from that day forward. How could something like this happen here? Were we going to start a gigantic war? Would I somehow end up in a draft for this war? Much more to tell about the adventure of getting home but I'm sure you all have read more than enough of my story...

Ich haben zwei Platzspielen und ein Microphone
User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6028 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4510 times:

Last year on Sept 11 I was sleeping soundly after working a 12 hour shift in the ER when I received a phone call from my sister-inlaw who lives downstairs telling be that two planes hit the Twin Towers. Shortly after watching the newscasts I received a call fro the hospital that they were on alert for possible victims from NYC or other areas (at this time they were going by initial reports of 50,000+ people being possibly injured) being in BUF we are 440 miles from NYC and we were told that we could receive injuries either from NYC or overflow from hospitals closer to NYC. Since I was not scheduled to go to work until 1500 I kept on watching the news and surfing the web (a.net of course, just before I joined).

I went to work at about 1400 and since we were becoming more and more sure that we were not going to get anyone from NYC we just went about our duties and tried to watch as much news as we could.

Late in the day they came up with a plan to send some Paramedics, emts and nurses to ground zero to help relieve the overworked medical staff there, I did not have the opportunity to go and stayed in BUF, those who went were there for about 3-5 days and brought as much supplies as they could carry, I still remember the news footage of all the ambulances lined up going down I-90 with a State Trooper escort.

Sorry to babble on, but as I was typing more memories kept on coming to me


Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

I live on the west coast and therefore was totally asleep while the world was changing. I was awaken at 8AM by my mother on the phone, talking really fast and trying to tell me what was going on. All I could do was say, "Are you kidding me?!" and yell it at her over and over again. I turned on the TV to see the massive dust/smoke cloud covering lower Manhatten. It was utter disbelief. What is so strange for me is that exactly a year later, I never got over that feeling. A year later, I still feel in a state of shock and confusion now as I did that very morning the moment I learned of it.

User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 48
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

The world stopped turning??? More proof that americans think the world revolves around them?

Dont flatter yourself, Alpha1.

YOUR world might have but mine is just fine thanks. The one small problem I have now is living in a country with a spineless kiss-@ss government (the UK).

User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

By the way Alpha-1, the world stopped to turn 1 year ago as you say. But why didn't the world stop to turn when it discovered the 6 millions jews killed in the concentration camps ? Or the 50 Millions dead people in the war ?
Oh, they were not all Americans ! Sorry to have compared insignificant people to good and brave Americans.

I just still can't believe you were serious.
How many terrorist attacks will you suffer until you understand this attitude is the reason why you are attacked ? Just like the US attitude in Iraq. Just to have more control over the oil price, Bush will trigger another war. US and European citizens will pay the price, later. Terrorists, unfortunately, will make us pay for this idiot.

User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

The world DID stop turning for close to 3000 people.

Ponder that. For some of you, the comments in regards to this post are nothing short of total disrespect and understanding. The world is a bitter place for some, more than others.

Remembering those who lost their lives on September 11th, 2001


"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 48
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4461 times:

I know that you have it "arse" about because your (he was 'my' at the time) Prime Minister called it the "arse end of the world" remember that?

Ive even forgotten his name....

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3222 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Don't you think guys, that on this day of all days you could just give the US bashing a rest? Let America mourn for its lost ones and stop blaming them for everything. Have you no shame? Geez.....

I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineAviatsiya.ru From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4448 times:


Yeah, 3000 people may have been killed. But the world didn't stop turning. Life went on, and continues to go on.

Did you stop to think about the 3000+ killed by a famous industrial and environmental terrorism act? Nah....didn't think so.

Because an event happens in America, doesn't mean the world stops...no matter how much you like to think it does.

User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

"The world DID stop turning for close to 3000 people."

Not sure how that can be any clearer for you. Your attempt to put words in my mouth have failed(yet again).

And, I might add, not all the victims were American.

A collective sigh is heard,


Remembering those lives that were lost on September 11th, 2001

"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2736 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

"First off, those aren't my words, in the title of the thread. It's a song by American Country singer Alan Jackson"

Sorry Alpha1, not really up to date with the C and W scene. Mr. Jackson however needs to be shot. Any idea where I could hear this tune and is it as bad as the title suggests ?

"PacificJourney, I am appaled, disgusted, sickened, and so much more at your post.. No need to vomit, I already have.. Tell ya what.. Gimme your mail addy and I'll ship some to ya.. "

Don't bother Airlinelover, after reading todays posts my pad is awash with the stuff.

" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

The only thing we are awash with is the pablum from the heartless and non sympathetic. My oh my! Wait till the Americans wake up this morning and start reading some of this insanity on here.
Is it any wonder that people are leaving these forums in droves? Very poor form indeed.


"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Back to the original post by Alpha 1, I must say it was well written and from the heart. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on that dreadful day Alpha. You made me think and perhaps others as well.

Regards to all and prayers for the victims and their families.


"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

It is the Americans who are most ignorant Clipperhawaii.

Yes, a lot of people died over there. But a lot of those were not US citizens and you don't take that into account AT ALL.
Also, the world didn't stop turning. In fact, except for those dead people and those they leave behind nothing of substance happened at all (at least in the long term meaning more than a few weeks) that wouldn't have happened anyway at a somewhat later date.
Yes, some people lost their jobs because their company was in the WTC and was destroyed. But then, others got jobs or were able to keep them because they work for security companies or companies providing security equipment.
The Afghan people got help which rid them of their government a few months or years earlier than would otherwise have happened. This may well have saved more than the 3000 lives lost in the US.
The economic slowdown sped up a bit, but not as much by far as originally feared. In fact, it may even have helped as the recovery now also starts sooner.

Besides, does the US ever take notice of the victims of terrorism in other countries?
Northern Ireland, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, the Philipines, Colombia, Venezuela, Israel, the list goes on.
Most US people wouldn't be able to point out those countries on a map of the world, let alone know that people die there all the time (in Germany and France, the terrorists have been mostly defeated by now). And even if they knew, they'd not consider it reason to mourn over it, it's far away isn't it?

Yes, it's sad when people die. When a lot of people die the impact is greater on a personal level as more people are hit by it.
But the world doesn't end. I knew none of those people, so I feel no loss. Just like you feel no loss for my grandmother who died several years ago, something for which I don't blame you.

I wish I were flying
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

To all the people crying about the title, it was made clear that it was taken from a song title. Country music or not.

I personally would not say that "The World Stopped Turning", but in America, it was a huge tragedy. For many other countries worldwide that lost some oof their people, it was a huge tragedy. By this thread, nobody is trying to say everything revolves around America. The pure hatred that is fueled only by ignorance on these forums is not only sickening, its down right scary. And that goes for those Americans that "hate the towelheads" ect. Hate in reverse is just as damaging as well. Funny that the hate can't stop flowing for one day. Actually it isn't funny.

As for me, and where I was. I was at work. It was a slow day, and I was listening to Howard Stern. One of the frist to publically announce what had happened. He could see things as they went down, from the window in his studio, as the building he was in was only a couple of miles away. I sat in shock listening to the happenings, and had a numb feeling. I will be honest and say there were no long lasting effects on my life. Phsyce maybe, but eventually you have to get over it.

User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

I think your perspective is flawed and a tad bit cynical Jwenting. Too much generalizing and broad assumptions don't make for a good post. Not sure how you would EVER know what Americans think or know.

Nice try though.


"You Can't Beat The Experience"
25 Ben : The issue that we "negative" people are trying to make, is that the world didn't stop turning, because there is a world outside the borders of the USA
26 KROC : It is the Americans who are most ignorant Clipperhawaii. Yes, a lot of people died over there. But a lot of those were not US citizens and you don't t
27 KROC : The issue that we "negative" people are trying to make, is that the world didn't stop turning, because there is a world outside the borders of the USA
28 Post contains images Aviatsiya.ru : Exactly Ben. If there is a point on this earth which is the centre of the world, I don't know where that is. But I do know that the sun shines out of
29 Clipperhawaii : That bandwagon you mention KROC is headed down the dirt road called the ash heap of history. We all know full well that THAT kind of double speak and
30 Super Em : I remember that day very well. It was a cool and normal day. I got up and went to work as normal. I was sitting in my car listening to the radio while
31 Clipperhawaii : Funny how just a little title, "Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning?" has got so many people from overseas bent out of shape. Frankly it is
32 Ts-ior : Has the world stopped turning ? When did that happen ? I didn't feel it !!!
33 Ben : Clipperhawaii, Yes, just that little title: "Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning?". Simply because the world didnt stop turning. I'm not say
34 BNE : Like someone said above the title Where were you when the world stop Turning is a figure of speech don't take it out of proportion. I was on holidays,
35 ADG : Ben, Put it on ebay ... $$$$ VH-ADG
36 Go Canada! : and what a surprise the anti-americans cant stop, i made a plead yesterday saying sept 11 isnt eh day for arguements and what happens, on this and oth
37 Ben : ADG, I could do it, yeah!! Do you think the fact it has "Made In China" written on the back will decrease its value? ...or prove something else entire
38 Go Canada! : as long as it isnt made in iraq........
39 KROC : I just about gave one huge projectile barf yesterday when my company handed out red/white/blue pins with our company logo on them (I work for a big am
40 Pacificjourney : Not bent out of shape by the title but the endless rape of the English language in search of sentiment, grief, shared emotions or common experience ju
41 Go Canada! : manni and others, wait till tomorrow, im not responding to such horrific attacks today. god bless america, god bless britain.
42 Pacificjourney : Just listened to the song and must admit it's not bad. Not Johhny Cash but not bad.
43 Hole_courtney : I remember that night before everything. I stayed up till about 3 chit chatting with my RA. I had only been a freshman for a week, and I was still pre
44 Rai : Pacificjourney: It's already 9/12/2002 in your neck of the woods. Have you masterbated yet like you promised you'd do on 9/11/2002?
45 Post contains images AS737900 : I can not believe how much this thread has went down the crapper. It started off great. Then the ignorant anti-American bunch joined in... Sure this t
46 Pacificjourney : Actually Stud I have another 100 minutes of the 11th remaining. Obviously I am awake and breathing so yes the deed has been done but I am sure I can w
47 NoUFO : O.K., one uses a metaphor und some people can't resist to to make fools of themselfs. I was in southern Germany working for a client when a colleague,
48 Airlinelover : Don't bother Airlinelover, after reading todays posts my pad is awash with the stuff. How bout I bring it and deliver it to you personally? I think so
49 Post contains images Rai : Obviously I am awake and breathing so yes the deed has been done but I am sure I can whip up some deviant behaviour in the time remaining, just for yo
50 Sebolino : I don't know what's more ridiculous, please tell me: 1) Saying the world has stopped turning. 2) Trying one more time to change what some say to "anti
51 DeanBNE : First off, those aren't my words, in the title of the thread. It's a song by American Country singer Alan Jackson, Pacificjourney. You made them you w
52 Jcs17 : Some of you are really sick...I cant believe the apathetic posts I'm reading, if you didnt care about 3,000+ innocent people dying on Sept. 11 do us a
53 DC-10 Levo : On September 10th 2001 I was flying back from my hoildays in Menorca. I was very tired so me and my brother were allowed the 11th September off aswell
54 Mika : I was at home zapping through the channels when i saw on EuroNews a fire in one of the WTC twin towers. They talked about a plane that had crashed int
55 Jaspike : I was getting into my car and I turned on the radio. I heard the American national anthem, which I didn't really expect to hear. So I listened to anot
56 David B. : I was still sleeping..........waiting for class to start.
57 Ryanb741 : For all those idiots belittling 9-11, the following list of deaths should put it into perspective. Look at how LONG it is. World Trade Center Victims
58 B747-437B : I was there. I had dinner on September 10 at a restaurant just a few blocks away from the Twin Towers. My friends teased me that night how I was "craz
59 Dragogoalie : It disturbs me that so many people can not care at all that thousands of people lost their lives. It truely shows that there are some sick people out
60 Go Canada! : "It disturbs me that so many people can not care at all that thousands of people lost their lives. It truely shows that there are some sick people out
61 Go Canada! : manni, whys that, i havent insulted you, ive said that unfortunately for some it depends on who was killed, that isnt attacking muslims nor is it atta
62 Heavymetal : -Where were you when you first heard about it? -Where were you when you saw the towers collapse? -Where were you when they replayed a jumper? -Where w
63 Manni : Go Canada, I tought it was funny that Alpha1 said that the world had stopped turning, that was what this post containt, so I did not see a reason to g
64 M.seles_fan : "unfortunately for some it depends who was killed" I couldn't have said it better! I can't believe some people seem more upset at the title of this th
65 Post contains images Lindy : On September 10th I was at EWR to pick up my sister from the airport. I took few pictures of EWR Control Tower and WTC in the background... Here is wh
66 Post contains links Illini_152 : I was laying in bed, sleeping off a hangover when my roomate burst into the room to tell me I had to get up RIGHT NOW. First I told him to go the #$!
67 GloBaLeXpResS : Yes its sad. I came out of biology, when someone shouted "somebody flew a plane into the wtc". My friends and I dismissed it, as some kind of joke or
68 Vickybiccy : Globalexpress, I have to say, I'm inclined to agree with you. I think what happened last year was horrific and frightening for us all. Some time after
69 Jcs17 : VickyBicky, then why do you trivialize the event by bringing up an incident in Nigeria that killed around 200 people. I thought that the news networks
70 Sebolino : It's hard to be understood, isn't it ? It seems some are still blind and don't see what's wrong in "The world stopped turning". Yes I care about what
71 Apathoid : seb - I did acurately portray the scale of the two. I know full well the horror of the Holocaust...my point was that he claimed America had no right t
72 Lubcha132 : umm the world didn't stop turning. we'd ALL be dead not 2801 of us.
73 Glenn : When did the world stop turning ?
74 Super Em : The world did not stop turning. It might have felt that way for many Americans.These kinds of terrorist acts have been going on for years.Having F-16'
75 Post contains images VonRichtofen : When I saw the number of replies to this thread before I entered it I had a feeling it was going to be littered with dribble from the usual anti-amer
76 Krushny : That day I was at work. Around 3pm (or 9am EST), my wife phoned me to tell that the Twin Towers were on fire. I looked out of my cubicle and saw my c
77 Lortab 7.5mg : When did the world stop turning ? Good question...if it did, we'd be floating in space...and the buildings wouldn't have collapsed. Anyway, I was asle
78 Post contains images Glenn : Gosh, calling me a cry baby for not liking the title. Just queried it that's all. It seems to based on non fact that is fuelling this American false s
79 NonRevKing : I was working at jetBlue TPA that day. I was at the ticket counter when I first heard. With all the confusion at first, there was concern that it migh
80 Boeing4ever : What can I say. There are certain users, in here... OH HELL, I'VE HAD IT! FOREINGERS! THAT'S RIGHT! WE HAVE SEEN NOTHING BUT ANTI-US CRAP ON THESE FOR
81 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Well, I held to my 24-hour silence on here. I actually had a pretty good day, but missed the Chapel Service at the airport because I was herded into t
82 Glenn : Nothing against Americans, just those seeking sympathy on the loss of others. Most people get on with life. Some Don't.
83 Alpha 1 : Most people get on with life. Some Don't. It's easy to "get on with life" when what happened didn't affect you, Glenn-especially if you're got the fee
84 Boeing4ever : Beware Glenn. I normally like Europeans, and all others in our small and shattered world, (my parents being Polish), but after the crap posted by Good
85 Post contains images Rai : Guys, Glenn and Goodbye are from Australia, not Europe. But I think it says something about the nature of this website when it's staff (i.e. Glenn) ca
86 Boeing4ever : Rai, I did say "all others in our small and shattered world" Beware, I'm on the warpath and if need be, I'll chew on fellow Americans just to vent my
87 Illini_152 : Boeing4ever, While I agree with most of what you said, take it easy on the Brits, they're some of our biggest supporters (hell, I think they're the on
88 Post contains images ADG : , how many Americans could identify the country of Nigeria And here we have the crux of this current issue ... JSC is right .. Americans care more abo
89 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Alpha1 I don't think it was what you said, but the title of the thread that set most people off. Indeed, there was some nastiness in here and I, altho
90 Jcs17 : Please don't misunderstand, that's fully expected and nobody has the right to attack them for that. Unfortunately, here in this forum, we are not all
91 Glenn : I would think that several hundred people is just as significant as several thousand in as much that neither is acceptable. However, you can hold onto
92 Apathoid : The people in Nigeria dies as the result of an accident. My countrymen were murdered by a despicable coward. That is the difference.
93 B-OTCH : However, you can hold onto your narrow minded views, the sane ones will hold onto reality. Glenn, if you are one of the "sane ones", then we are all i
94 Post contains images Glenn : And the difference being between Nigeria and America again is what ? Care to tell me what I said that was so DISPARAGING. Not that it matters as you
95 ADG : Alpha1 I agree in principle with you, but feel that you started it with the quote to the world stopping turning. You really did open yourself up for r
96 Sebolino : "if it did, we'd be floating in space...and the buildings wouldn't have collapsed." As I said, if the world stopped turning, we wouldn't be floating i
97 Go Canada! : because its an insult on 9/11, your making light of the fact that sept 11 was a day of remberance for those who have losts their lives due to terroris
98 Post contains images ADG : Australia as reported on cnn is a 'stauch us ally'.Mr howarda actually come out and said on it that you wont get compliance with the un resolutions un
99 Go Canada! : adg, im heartbroken, i wanted you to marry me! lol!
100 Alpha 1 : However, you can hold onto your narrow minded views, the sane ones will hold onto reality. It's amazing how often that old chestnut of calling someone
101 Post contains images Glenn : HA HA HA this thread still going. You talk about mature people and I should have seen it as a metaphor. Perhaps but if you didn't like the answer you
102 B-OTCH : Glenn, you're making yourself out to be a real jerk in a lot of people's eyes. And you are a screener. And you wonder why everyone complains about you
103 Go Canada! : glenn, if you have nothing constructive to add or factual then dont post.
104 Post contains images ADG : GoCanada, To borrow someone elses words .. when did you become the big forum moderator to tell others what to do? VH-ADG
105 Redngold : OK, back on topic, boys & girls... :rollseyes: Bear with me, this is long and detailed, but it will give you a clear picture in the end. I woke up on
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