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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Germans: Have you already voted, will you go voting or will you stay at home?
All people: Who do you want to win ? Do you think that the PDS will make it to the parliament again?

I just came back home from voting and my "Wahllokal" (vote room?) was really crowded, I had to wait nearly 15 minutes to vote.

I want the Red-Green coalition to go on for the next 4 years. Not everything they made was good, but I think overall they were successful, and better than CDU/FDP coalition before. I doubt very much that basically the same people could do better now, they are just missing Helmut Kohl, the rest of them is back.

I think (and hope) that we'll get rid of the PDS. They are out-dated and don't realize that the DDR is gone - I like Gysi, but the rest of the party is unacceptable.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

I miss Kohl.  Crying

From what I have read, there isn't a canadate of his caliber around.

What year did he leave office anyway, I want to think he was still in charge when I was over there in 1992-94




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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

I will vote for Gerd`s party in the afternoon and I hope that the Red-Green coalition will also stay for the next 4 years.

Patrick


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

L-188, Kohl lost the General election in 1998 badly against Gerhard Schröder. (SPD 42% CDU/CSU 35%)

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

I just talked with my parents, they told me that it was also very crowded at their "vote room". I hope that it will be quite empty there in the afternoon.

Patrick


User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

I just came back. It's raining but the polls are crowded.
I voted for SPD/Schröder!



"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineGeneralA From Germany, joined May 2001, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

I have not voted yet, but I´ll go to the polls in the afternoon. I hope that the SPD/Green Party will stay in office.

GeneralA


User currently offlineMatt86 From Germany, joined May 2001, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Well, as I'm not 18 years old I'm not allowed to go voting. But I would the CSU by first vote and by second vote FDP or CSU. I would like not to see the PDS again. They have done so many bad things to the people of the former GDR and I don't want Germany to become communist one day.
I also can't stand the greens. It is not normal that someone who has beaten policemen in his earlier life are ruling over Germany at the moment. The SPD is at least an acceptable party for me and Schröder is a nice chancellor. But they don't want to limit immigration, our Social System is too big with too much social parasits and the SPD isn't a party that is able to boost our economy. I also want to have a party that is fighting for Germany's national interests and that is proud of Germany.

For all Germans, try a look at www.wahlomat.de
This is a nice homepage, and I think the result is very realistic.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Hepkat deleted my post!  Sad

Anyway, I'll do it in English this time.

Vote for Gerhard!

We must follow our Swedish cousins and vote for the left and stop this right-wing politics going across €urope!

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Matt86,

take a look at this link (posted by Racko yesterday here on the forum):

http://www.achse-des-boesen.de

Do you really want to see these racists and idiots on top of our government?

Patrick (who is glad that so many a.net members vote for Red-Green)


User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

I'm happy as well. Red-Green represents most up-to-date and modern poilitics. This, together with all other socialdemocratic gouverments in Europe, gives Europe a modern, tolerant face, where I actually want to live!


"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

I´ve gone a while ago.

I voted red (local candidate) and green (party).

Let´s hope for the best... We don´t need a warmed-over serving of more Kohl for another four years... (not even with lowered Kohl content... Wink/being sarcastic)

L-188: I miss Kohl. From what I have read, there isn't a canadate of his caliber around.

I´m sorry. But I guess that even if we´re stuffing Gerhard Schröder to the brim at every meal he´ll never win a Sumo match against the "black giant"...  Big thumbs up



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Common, you guys over there kept him in for all those years for some reason.

You have to admit, Reagan, Thatcher and Kohl made a pretty good team.




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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

who is glad that so many a.net members vote for Red-Green

Well too many threads have proven that a.neters are not always right...
Just imagine how the airline fleets would look like if a.neters had more power... :-(

Well I will now go and give the CDU my support.

Max


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1532 times:


Yes, I have already been voting this morning. And there were not many people there at all  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Wow, there seems to be a large number of people who want the red-green coalition to go on as it seems here.


User currently offlineSydneysider From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Voted four weeks ago via Briefwahl. Both crosses for the "funparty" or The Yellowish.

165min to go!! Hoping for red-yellow!!

Christian


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

If the SPD get another term I wonder what German unemployment will by the end of the it?For a party that came to power promising to reduce unemployment they have done very little.Interesting to see how Schroder brought up labour market reforms so close to the elections.They are good ideas but he should have implemented them years ago.Although Stoiber rubished the ideas,I suspect he would implement them if he got into power.
Singapore_Air,what improvements have the 'lefties'we have here in Britain made?Very little.Gordon Brown came to office and was lucky to see massive tax revenues.Did he do anything himself to receive this?No,they were due to the micro-economic reforms undertaken by the Conservatives.Now,as the economy is slowing,Mr Brown has decided to raise taxes to fund overly-ambitious spending plans that won't acheive their goals(ie improvements in the NHS etc).


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

I keep my fingers crossed for Stoiber! Why do you all vote for Schröder? I really cannot think of a single reason to vote for him.

B737-700: Never on ICQ anymore?

Tom


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Donder10: If the SPD get another term I wonder what German unemployment will by the end of the it?For a party that came to power promising to reduce unemployment they have done very little.

CDU/CSU/FDP + 16 years + record debt + worldwide economic boom => up to about 5Mio unemployed (barely, even with tricks)

SPD/Grüne + 4 years + debt reduction + worldwide economic crisis => down to about 4 Mio unemployed

Blindness can be a blessing, or so I´ve heard...  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Economic booms and debt tend to go hand in hand-look at the US over the 90s.Also,it would be MUCH better for unemployment comparisons to use%of labour unemployed than just saying x number due to a number of factors especially in Germany's case.
The German economy needs to be more flexible as foreign competition increase.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

I have the ultimate link:

http://www.stoiber-stinkt.de.vu


And you want this guy to become our chancellor ?

PS: My favorites are 13, 15 and 19  Smile "Die gluderne Lot"


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

Thanks for posting the link, Racko!

Also no. 1 and no. 5 made me laugh Big grin Big grin Big grin

Patrick


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

I am with red-green, too; local candidate from SPD, 2nd vote: Greens/Alliance 90. I am pleased with the work of the green members of the government but I'm not with Riester (labour, SPD) and some others. Mrs Dauebler-Gmelin should not be part of the next government as she has gone to far with mentioning Bush and Adolf Nazi in one single line - even though she may have not compared Bush to Hitler. And Schroeder himself should show more reason of state in near future - at least if he remains to be chancellor.
Anyway, this is going to be a cliffhanger vote ...

What really makes me sad is that Mr Mueller, one of the spokesman of Greens/Alliance 90, will no longer be member of the Bundestag. This guy was brilliant. Even the fractions of CDU/CSU and FDP have regulary shown lots of respect for him. Actually, I'm very much hoping to continue hearing from him in the news ...

Regards,
NoUFO



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

Yall will be doing good over their who shares the same economic belief system that Ludwig Erhard believed in.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1458 times:


Speaking about a record debt, ... in the 16 years of Kohl, wasn't there the BRD/DDR deal ???

A popular media chancellor is not necessarily a good chancellor. Just my 0.02€.


25 Avion : So can anybody tell me why they voted for SPD or the green party? What exactly are your reasons. Tom
26 Post contains images Matt86 : Matt86, take a look at this link (posted by Racko yesterday here on the forum): http://www.achse-des-boesen.de Do you really want to see these racists
27 NoUFO : So can anybody tell me why they voted for SPD or the green party? Greens because I'm pleased with the work of the three green members of the Governmen
28 Racko : tight, tighter, German election. Great success for the greens, failure for the SPD (THANKS HERTA), CDU biggest fraction, FDP lost badly (hahahaha 18%,
29 Cyril B : Last seats projections (TSR): SPD/Greens: 301, CDU-CSU/FDP: 297
30 Racko : ARD = tie between red/green and CDU/FDP/PDS ZDF = red/green 302 seats RTL = red/green 304 seats You need 301 seats for the majority (usually 598 but t
31 Singapore_Air : I am scared for our Schroeder friends! That horrible Stiober man was on this evening talking about champagne and thanking people. I was less than enth
32 Sabena332 : I think that Red-Green made it, thanks God!!! Patrick
33 Post contains links Racko : Looks good for Schröder/Fischer now ! *** Hochrechnung 21.14 Uhr: SPD 38,3%, Union 38,3%, Grüne 8,8%, FDP 7,2%, PDS, 4,1% *** Seats in the Bundestag
34 Post contains links Sabena332 : I agree, really an amazing result for the Greens! I am so glad that Adolf "Hillbilly" Stoiber will be not our new chancellor. Patrick Btw, Matt86: I j
35 Post contains images GeneralA : IMO, one more reason why the SPD lost so many votes: rain NRW/Niedersachen/Berlin: SPD stronghold - rain Baden-Württemberg/Bavaria: CDU/CSU stronghol
36 Post contains images Klaus : Racko: Looks good for Schröder/Fischer now ! It´ll be close. But at least a black/yellow coalition looks pretty unlikely by now. Racko: Forschungsgr
37 Post contains images Singapore_Air : Let us pray for the Red/Greens! (I know what that means now ) Das Erste website has changed. I think it says 38.3 for Sch, 38.5 for Stoi, 6.8 for Gree
38 Singapore_Air : http://wahl.tagesschau.de/newsticker/choice.html At 2227 Uhr (DE time) It's still 38.2% for SPD, 39.1% for CDUCSU, 8.5% for Green, 7.4% for FDU = 46.7
39 Singapore_Air : In East Germany, 39.3%, 4.3% for Schroeder Coalition 28.6%, 6.3% for the other one. 17.3% for PDS (who are they?) In West Germany 36.8%, 9.7% for Sch.
40 Singapore_Air : Argh. An automatic update. At 2312 Uhr, Hochrechnung. SPD = 38.2% (-0.1% from 2038) CDU / CSU = 38.9% (+0.4% from 2038) Green = 8.5% (+1.7% from 2038)
41 Klaus : Singapore_Air: 17.3% for PDS (who are they?) They´re the successors of the former SED, the communist ruling party of the old GDR. They are trying to
42 Singapore_Air : Update from Das Erste. SPD = 38.4% (+0.2% from 2312, +0.1% from 2038) CDU / CSU = 38.6% (-0.3% from 2312, +0.1% from 2038) Greens = 8.6% (+0.1% from 2
43 Avion : I am still hoping for CDU. All the red green coalition wil do is more taxes, more useless laws more social security. Also they rescued MobilCom which
44 Jcs17 : This is great! Nice job Herta! You ugly, old, senile hag! Actually I really am happy, I just saw an article projecting the election to Stoiber. Down w
45 Post contains images Klaus : Avion: I am still hoping for CDU. All the red green coalition wil do is more taxes, more useless laws more social security. Actually, the red/green go
46 Jcs17 : Klaus- I just disagree very much with the Greens anti-US policy during the Cold War, and not appreciating what we did for them. They wanted us out! No
47 Post contains images Klaus : Jcs17: I just disagree very much with the Greens anti-US policy during the Cold War, and not appreciating what we did for them. They´ve changed quite
48 Post contains images NoUFO : They wanted us out! Not realizing that West Germany could have become very unstable without the U.S. presence during that point in time. Yes, pretty i
49 Jcs17 : Klaus-- Airliners.net is not exactly the most accurate place to get the sentiment about the current American political scene. When it comes to foreign
50 Post contains images Klaus : Jcs17: Airliners.net is not exactly the most accurate place to get the sentiment about the current American political scene. Do you really believe any
51 Udo : Well, not a good day for me. I haven't been able to get the results earlier since here in the US German elections aren't a number one topic. I was qui
52 GDB : I had to laugh at the PDS, to try to increase their appeal to the young, and erase their communist GDR roots, they pitched a sort of sexual liberation
53 Matt86 : "Matt, I learned the national anthem in school, if you're not learning it, blame BAVARIA and the CSU as education is "Ländersache" - I was in school
54 Racko : "Well, we learned "Gott mit dir du Land der Bayern". Bavaria still has ego." roflmao, gotta love the bavarians. First you complain about not learning
55 Matt86 : Another thing, what I wanted to say. Every vote (doesn't matter whether it is for SPD, CSU/CDU, FDP, Greens, PDS, Schill, Rep, PBC, etc.) is ok, but I
56 Capt.Picard : I've been watching from the sidelines....just wondering, from what I understand, there wasn't a great deal of difference between what Gerhard stood fo
57 Capt.Picard : Sorry everyone! I only read the first few replies, scrolled all the way to the bottom and posted without thinking! Never mind, I'll learn to read next
58 Matt86 : I've been watching from the sidelines....just wondering, from what I understand, there wasn't a great deal of difference between what Gerhard stood fo
59 Post contains images Udo : Yes, we are a special folk and I would love to see us independent. With our strong economy we could survive well...we would do better than several EU
60 N312RC : I looked at a graphic of the outgoing Bundestag, and I must ask one question. What areas of germany (geographically) would elect the 3 communists that
61 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Thanks for the info; very interesting. As I don't live in Germany, I couldn't really make an intelligent choice on who seems to have the 'right' view
62 N312RC : Yes, Bavarians think differently.. Bavarians are better than the rest of Germany, one fine example of that is BMW.
63 Avion : I like what Stoiber stood for: - less taxes - less social benefits - less money for people that do not work - more money for the army I'd love to the
64 Post contains images NoUFO : And we wouldn't have to deal with socialists, greens and communists any longer...they are of no real importance in Bavaria   Oh yes, you would only h
65 Post contains images Racko : "Bavarians are better than the rest of Germany, one fine example of that is BMW." I'm sorry, but BMW is from Munich and Munich is different from the r
66 SAS_A330-300 : I have only one thing to say about the German election. Fischer, the green-leader has a terrible voice (thinking of his speech after the final results
67 Post contains images Sabena332 : I'm sorry, but BMW is from Munich and Munich is different from the rest of Bavaria - it's SPD-ruled Racko is correct! Patrick By the way: I am glad th
68 NoUFO : Matt86: Well, both of them said they will make everything better. Stoiber is for making new dept but he wants to boost the economy by lowering taxes.
69 Post contains images Racko : "Fischer, the green-leader has a terrible voice (thinking of his speech after the final results)!" I want to hear your voice after months of "election
70 Post contains images Udo : I can only laugh at some people here. Talking bad about Bavaria is only a sign of being jealous all over. And I know how ignorant especially the Preis
71 Post contains images SAS_A330-300 : "I want to hear your voice after months of "election war", after hundreds of speeches each in front of thousands of people" Well, I can say that his v
72 Matt86 : Well, I think Munich is SPD ruled because Christian Ude is a very good politician ("Persönlickeitswahl") and, as Udo already said, in Munich, often c
73 Post contains images Godbless : Udo, 100% my support! 3. What do you mean with 'baddest'? Oh, you mean worst? I see, but I don't mind about that mistake. I know that education in Ber
74 N312RC : In regards to the picture of the Lederhosen.. Theres nothing wrong with it... It just like black people wearing Fubu or southern hicks wearing tight b
75 Post contains images NoUFO : Udo: 3. What do you mean with 'baddest'? Oh, you mean worst? I see, but I don't mind about that mistake. I know that education in Berlin is not the be
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