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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

Hi guys,

This morning I played football, I tired myself out quite a bit, alot of running on quite a hot sunny day. Well I took in lots of water, was ok and rode home. I've been sitting here for about an hour and went to the shops to get a drink. Once I got home I opened a bottle of coke, but once I'd just took a little bit I had a huge pain in my chest and blacked out.

I got up again after about 30 seconds but now the pain has gone but I have a huge headache. I'm pretty hot, maybe that was part of the problem?

Well whatever it was, It made me burp a hell of alot, and I feel really bad...  Sad.

Any ideas? I might go get a small glass of water and maybe take some anadin extra or something...

regards

Dan

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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1063 times:

Help/advice, whatever. I phoned the doctors but there was nobody there.. bloody typical...

blagh!!! I had a similar incident last week but alot less violent.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

NHS Direct

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1048 times:

phoned the doctors but there was nobody there

Typical nationalized health care system.

It could be several things, it sounds like you where hydrated though, so I, who does not have the medical background to squeeze a pimple, would guess that maybe it is some sort of chemical imbalance that was egravated by the exhertion.

I say get to the doc's and have some tests done.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1046 times:

I felt like that the other day after riding my bike on the uphill trek to school. I hadn't eaten that morning, and I had a sweater on and my 30 pound backpack even though it was 30 celsius out! When I got to English class we started watching "Legends of the Fall" with french subtitles. :/ I was feeling all light headed and tired, so I asked to go get a drink of water, and when I got up I fell down again  Laugh out loud Total blackout man. I woke up outside in the hall, where some of my friends had carried me. The teacher thought that the "War scenes" had shocked me. LMAO. Legends of the Fall. LOL.

I suggest getting some rest and drinking lots of water (No coke) Also, sugars are important after that kind of exercise.

-Clovis


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

Might have had something to do with the oxygen bubbles in my coca-cola?

777236ER - No chance, I rang for ages and ages but no dice, busy  Sad.

anyways I drank alot of water with my steak (mmmmm steak). muahaha Big grin


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

Er, well your town/city should have an emergency surgery that's open on sundays/banks holidays etc. You don't know what it is? Ring around, someone will know where it is and what the number is. Failing that, why not go down to the A&E? Bear in mind that if you phone your GP tomorrow you're unlikely to get an appointment for a couple of days and if its serious he or she will just refer you to the hospital anyway. Sunday afternoons aren't going to be busy for the A&E, so go down.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

777236ER - I live in a town about 12 miles from Bristol, there are two A & E wards there but I have no way of getting there. My parents are in Germany so, its not urgent enough to call on anyone else, the doctors in the town are closed..

Guess thats one of the bad points about living in a small town  Sad.

regards

Dan


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 999 times:

EGGD: After strenuous exercise, youre not supposed to drink a lot of water or fluids right afterwards. You should drink a small amount of water, then wait sometime, like go take a shower, then come back and drink however much you want. Drinking a lot right after hard exercise can cause really bad aches. But you passed out, which isn't really that typical if you know what I mean. Do you have any doctor friends or anyone you can ask? Try WebMd?

regards,
FSP


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 998 times:

FSPilot747 - I did drink alot of water, I've done it before and I know its a bit of a mistake but I was so damn hot...

When I actually got the pain etc was about 1 hour after the game, maybe a little more. I assume its something to do with oxygen but whatever it was hurt like hell!!!

Regards

Dan.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 993 times:

It does help to drink certain sports drinks like Gatorade or Powerade when excersing outside under the Sun in hot conditions, also make sure to eat something about two hours before you excersise (nothing big though).


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User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Were you sweating? If you were, it was probably just heat exhaustion, and any number of things could have caused you to go into psychogenic shock and black out, which is not that dangerous.

If you were not sweating than it would be something more serious but you would not be talking to us right now. Just take it easy for a bit and ask your doctor when you get a chance. Doesn't sound like an emergency to me.

The best way to prevent this is to drink throughout your exercising. If you get so hot and dehydrated that your body loses too much water to continue sweating, then you will lose the ability for your body to cool itself and heat stroke will set in.

Also, don't drink coke. Caffeine dehydrates you more and the carbonation isn't that good for you in that state.



Kalamazoozoozoozoozoozoozoo
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 977 times:

lol AZO, well I wasn't sweating at all, which was kinda odd... But I guess I wouldnt' be talking right now if I had heat stroke...

Coke I know is bad, but I thought It'd been long enough since I was playing football that I would have recovered...

Well, I drank some water, ate some mars bars and had a lie down, and i'm feeling a bit better now so...

thanks for all the information guys, appreciated  Smile.

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 971 times:

Not necessarily, i suppose it is possible to recover from heat stroke on your own, though it could have been much much worse. If you were not sweating and were really hot, then it no doubt was heat stroke. Next time put water on your face, it will act as artificial sweat. And try to get a fan or a breeze going over it to evaporate the heat off your skin. Also if you can, put cold packs under your armpits. Should do the trick real nice-like.


Kalamazoozoozoozoozoozoozoo
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 969 times:

AZO - I put a wet flannel on my head straight away, as I could feel the heat coming off it. Maybe that helped? I've found it can cool me down in the past...

Oh well, its over now and you know what they say, learn from your mistakes  Smile.

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 959 times:

It may be nothing more than a little heat stress, but blackouts are worth investigating further. Please make an appointment with your doctor and get a full check-up.


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 921 times:

Actually Dan, I do think you were dehydrated.

You probably didn't drink anything from the time you woke up to the time you played football, right? If you did, it probably wasn't much.

If you weren't sweating while you were playing, that's really bad! It means you're dehydrated.

It sounds like you were really thirsty after you were done playing. You should be a little thirsty, but not that thirsty.

I run 5K races for cross country so I need to be very very well hydrated. If I'm not, bad stuff happens. Anyways, after the race I'm not even thirsty until about a half hour later. That's 5K, 3.1 miles, mind you! Not even thirsty.

It could also be caused by doing it in the morning, when you haven't eaten a lot. Your body is running on fumes, and you're asking for a blackout/headache!

So I think you were dehydrated, and you did too much too early in the morning, that's all.

My humble, quite educated guess  Big grin

Regards
Shawn


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Doesn't help that i'm not a morning person. Dehydrated is probably about it, heat stroke is a little more serious Big grin. Problem is I felt perfectly fine until I drank something at home...

I used to do cross country too (2-4 miles normally), but I never drank anything. But then again I never drink anything anyway, I usually take re-hydration tablets. I had a couple of glasses of water this morning, along with a selection of citrus fruits (apples and oranges hehehe). Blefg I might just give up the football anyway, I've been kicked out of the academy a record (probably) 5 times now. Whats the point!!!

Regards

Dan Big grin


User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 908 times:

Don't worry, I suffer from frequent blackouts and my dad, who is a doctor, is not at all worried and puts it down to adolescence. It has improved a lot since when I drink coffee, so maybe it would be worth trying that.
-turbolet


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 902 times:

Turbolet - I'm pretty sure thats called 'tiredness'  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 896 times:

EGGD, you're probably correct. Tiredness is something I get a lot of, hehe.
-turbolet


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 890 times:

EGGD,

I have a different guess than the rest of the people here. I think you might have an esophageal ulcer, that is, an ulcer in your espohagus. Caffeinated drinks can serious irritate an already inflamed espohagus. Esophageal irritation is usually caused by gastric reflux, that is, stomach acid that passes through the upper muscle that's supposed to close off your stomach. If you have been involved in heavy exercise, especially while lying on your back or doing push-ups, you might have irritated your esophagus, and then you added the caffeine to that, causing extreme pain.

The vagus nerve which controls blood pressure is also very close to your esophagus and can be affected by stomach pressure. So you might have had a combined reaction to esophageal irritation and vagus nerve stimulation, causing the blackout.

You should probably see a doctor even if you are feeling better. Aside from my theory and those of the others who have posted, you could be experiencing mild symptoms that are related to a more serious medical problem.

Good luck,
redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 878 times:

Hi redngold - Thanks for the information, to be honest I didn't really think about anything like that. I'll research about esophageal ulcers and consult a doctor, hopefully it'll be nothing that serious but its better safe than sorry.

Thanks for all the suggestions and tips etc, much appreciated!

regards

Dan


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 871 times:

EGGD- How much did you eat/drink before you played?

As Shawn said, your body is usually running on fumes in the morning.

When I have morning cross country meets, I usually eat cerial such as Frosted Flakes and have a glass of orange juice and another glass of Gatorade and I keep sipping water until about 15 minutes before the race. That way, I get hydrated, but because I am taking the water over time and not in huge gulps, I don't cramp up.

Also, try having a bottle of Gatorade after you play football, after I finish a race, it is a great cool down drink for me.

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 864 times:

probably about 300mls of water.

probably...


25 Shawn Patrick : Yeah, you needed to have much more than 300mls of water. It's definetly dehydration. We've had tons of kids pass out on our cross country team - the c
26 TNboy : EGGD: If it recurs, or you have further poroblems, it's a bit late to start wishing you had done something about it. And, from what I have read, and w
27 AMSMAN : The same thing happened to me about three years ago and has happened twice since then. If it doesn't happen regularly and just happened out of the blu
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