Goodbye From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 917 posts, RR: 10 Posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1404 times:
Officials in Senegal have said that the ship carrying 1,034 passengers, was overcrowded, having been designed to carry about 500, and that it was never meant to go to sea, but remain in calm waters such as a lake. Only about 65 people have survived the accident, which occured when a gust of wind and heavy seas combined to capsize the ship.
KHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Dam this is a huge disaster....close to 1000 people!!!! Imagine people talk about the likes of Titanic for generations but this disaster is pretty close in its scale..i cant imagine how horrific the scene must have been when all the people when into the car and the boat capsizing.
KaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1294 times:
Ohh how cute! Look We're nutz is trying to be funny!
Its really sad to hear such a horrible event took place with so many people once again. I can only imagine how terrifying the disaster must have been. I am amazed that the ship was overloaded by 100% supposedly! Thats unreal to think load limits could be exceeded without any concerns. Heads need to roll for who ever allowed this ship to leave in such a dangerous configuration.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1272 times:
You two (We're Nuts and Apathoid) are the two biggest hypocrits. In one statemnt, you manage to criticize Americans for not showing huge amounts of grief and then show no grief or support on your part. Way to go, you should be proud.
This is a terrible tragedy, and yet you take your shots.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1180 times:
Unfortunately, the truth remains that a Senegalese life is a darn sight less valuable on average than an American or even a European life. From a purely economic standpoint, this is the equivalent of maybe 50 Americans being killed somewhere. Senegal simply isn't important enough for the world to care.
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4176 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
The ferry was certified for unse in coastal waters which effectively means that it could be used in the Atlantic. The main factor was the over-loading and probably cargo-shifting. Another name in the long list of horrible ship desasters: "Estonia", "King of Scandinavia", "Hearald of free Enterprise", the philipine (?) desaster killing nearly 4,000 people... RIP all who lost their lifes...
Hepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
The way I look at it, it makes no sense technically to feel sorry for the dead. They're clearly in a much better position as we are, being removed from a life of sorrow and suffering. However as human beings, we do feel a sense of grief at the tragicness of the situation, or the senseless and preventable loss of life. We also feel compassionate for those family members, especially orphans, left behind.
But I do agree that it seems Third World lives are worth much less than a First World life. A thousand people suddenly dying in one tragedy would cause an unprecedented outpour of worldwide grief lasting several weeks had it occurred in the U.S.
KLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1148 times:
The way We're Nuts argument is flawed, is in the fact that on Sept. 11 2001 3,000 people were murdered. The WTC attacks were no accident.
That said, I agree with Hepkat that unfortunately, disasters in develloped 1st world nations seem to be much more important then those that happen in 3rd world countries. Media coverage seems to be the main problem.
I cannot even fathom the helpless and horrible situations many people most have been caught in that night.
Rai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1121 times:
How about a Canadian life? Or what about a Brazillian life? Or Japanese? It's really a shame what this topic has become. Someone posts a story, a really sad one at that, and we have a few people (including a forum moderator, no less ) who make a few snide politcal remarks to ruin the purpose of this thread. And if some of you guys didn't have the beliefs that you did, would you even care about this story? Seriously...
How about leaving it as it is and keeping the political bullshit out of this. Is that too much to ask? I would hope not, but given the maturity of this place, it seems akin to asking someone to move mountains.
25 We're Nuts
: Where would you prefer we put our "snide political remarks"? Maybe an Airliners.net "Snide Politcal Remarks" forum?
: why do we care? so perhaps a tragedy of this magnitude wont happen again, but africa is so inept and backward, i wouldnt bank on it. tnnh