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Why Does America Want To Rule The World?  
User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13976 times:

I don't mind America. I know some nice Americans. But why does America (US part, that is) want to rule the world? In Europe, we don't kind of have this amibtion. You know?

- caravelle


Trains and boats and planes....
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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13918 times:

Because they can do it.
And also because they are grown in the idea that they are THE people elected.


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13919 times:

Do you HONESTLY believe that?? If so, please explain why.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13917 times:

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Believe what ?


User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13908 times:

Who said America wants to rule the world? Our president hasn't made such claims (publicly at least) and as far as I know there are no plans in the works for a global take-over.

Give the source of your "facts", please.



Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13903 times:

I don't want to speak in place of Caravelle, but I guess he wanted to point the fact that the US are seen as a kind of world police.
Not especially about what's happening these days, but that's a more general feeling since WW2.


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13904 times:

AerLingus... Read your papers, will you?

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13897 times:

Thats his personal opinion.  Innocent Thats the way he feels............. Smokin cool



America Want To Rule The World except for Israel and Saudi Arabia...........they rule us with their powerful fearless lobbies and their slick shinny black oil  Nuts





Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13889 times:

Checked out today's SF Chronicle. Nope. No "US DECLARES WAR ON WORLD" headline.


Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13883 times:

Caravelle

Why don't you explain yourself a little bit. This is quite intresting, I read the newspaper everyday and I have yet to read about a world takeover.


What are they printing in those forgin newspapers?


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13881 times:

World police... yeah I can see that. You know why that is? Because there are not that many other nations who have the backbone, nor the resources to take care of the problems in the world. Our countries intentions mean well, however sometimes things dont go according to plan. Everyone makes mistakes, even countries! With that, I must say atleast we try to do things to better the world in some regards when other countries sit back and laugh when we fail and turn a cheek when we triumph.

It has been said before many times. What would the world turn to be if the USA isolated ourselfs and let the rest of the world go about its ways. Pretty interesting notion when you really think about that! I see it that the world loves Americans at the same time they Hate us. If they hate us, I say good for you, it doesnt bother me one bit... because I am living a better, happier, well educated, enjoyable life then many ever will!


User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13895 times:

Take a look at the "Defense Planning Guide for the 2004-2009 Fiscal Years", which was penned by Rumsefeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Powell. I believe the plan refers to "global dominance."

It's downright chilling.

But to respond to your question more directly, I don't think that Americans really want to rule the world inasmuch as they just want quick, simple solutions to world problems.

Americans perceive themselves as being decent, moral people with a can-do spirit borne from their prairie days. Please bear in mind that there are some very positive aspects to these characteristics. When the going has been tough, Americans have rolled up their sleeves and have succeeded against the odds. At times, Americans have been very generous in their support of other countries. Please don't forget this!

On the other hand, I don't think that Americans have the cultural depth to utilize introspection and analysis to assess their situation, and to solve their problems. They're very prone to populism. Simple, shoot-from-the hip answers to life's problems.



User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13867 times:

America wants to maintain its position as the world's sole superpower. Sounds sensible enough to me.......I'd rather have America at the top, than anyone else (ok, having the Dutch in charge would be quite cool, but it won't happen).

For those who really don't like it: it won't last forever, but you probably won't outlive it.

Empires come, empires go. That's life. Ask Marx, he'll tell you.


User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13859 times:

Gee....cap, since your british, wouldn't you rather have the UK at the top?


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13857 times:

The point I was trying to make here - indeed, the question I was trying to ask was, why does America want to rule the world. The US has no right to, and should never be allowed to act on behalf of all mankind, as some of their politicians want to.
To me, at least, it seems America (US) has dreams far beyond what the country can possibly achieve.Captitaism will never be perfect. In addition, they are not willing to address the question of the poor (have you seen the trailer parks and the camps?), have you seen the bag ladies in NY? Who are they to teach us?

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13853 times:

Well said Captain !!
That's exactly my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised in 1 or 2 centuries (if I could) to see the United States of Europe dominating. Or perhaps the United States of Africa (in 10 centuries).


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13837 times:

Some books have been mentioned here. If anyone has the time, or the will, try Body of Secrets (How America's NSA and Britain's GCQH eavesdrop on The World). Written by James Bamford (goes to show that - even in America - you can put a good man down). Published by Arrow. Highly recommended. The chapter on Cuba is chilling.

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13817 times:

No, I don't think that fits into the equation. I appreciate the attempted insult though.  Big thumbs up

But I do know some nice stupid people...


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13817 times:

Look, this thread is going to go downhill very quickly if we're not careful.

My explanation isn't an excuse for the way things are: it's just a realistic impression of the world, according to my mind.

I'm a bit of a defeatist I suppose. If it's quite clear that the status quo cannot be changed, I don't see much point in shouting about it. Maybe I'm lazy, or grossly negligent.

To me, such questions sound like: Why does the sun think it has the right to burn? Well, cause it does, and we can't really do much about it.

It's the 'if you can't beat'em, join'em! philosophy.

Maybe I'm an idiot with no ambition. Maybe someone should try to answer Caravelle's question properly, instead of pathetic rantings such as 'oh, you can't do anything about it' (i.e. me). Who knows.

I guess I just don't care that much. In the end, everything tends to balance out, or reach an equitable equilibrium....America will reach a certain climatic point in supremacy, and....just as has happened many times before....it will fall, and be replaced.

To the guy who asked why I didn't think the Brits should be in charge........because the Dutch have the best attributes of the British (sensible, calm) but without the pomposity!  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineFuturesqpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13789 times:

Kaitakfan- thank you and well said.

Caravelle-Funny how you just come out and declare that the US wants to rule the world...can we see some proof?

Let's look at an example of an empire that actually did want to rule the world, Rome. They took their legions and invaded countries for the sole purpose of taking that country as their own. When the Romans had won the war in that country, they would institute their own government there. They didn't sign treaties and help that country to rebuild under their own government.



User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13805 times:

The point I was trying to make here - indeed, the question I was trying to ask was, why does America want to rule the world. The US has no right to, and should never be allowed to act on behalf of all mankind, as some of their politicians want to.

LMAO! It's funny, and I hate to do it, but I have to reset this yet again. If America keeps to itself, and only worries about it's own problems, the rest of the world looks at us as greedy, selfish, only care about us people. If we get involved in World Affairs, then we are bullies, interfearing, and pushing people around. It's a no win situation. Why is America the World's Policemen? Because there is nobody else that can do it, thats why. And what about all the countries that ASK the U.S. to interfear. And on top of that, what about the countries that ask the U.S. for help, then stab us in the backs later on down the road?

America, it's leaders, it's people, nobody wants to "Rule the World". We are hoever, interested in our interests, and the safety of people all over the world. You need to learn the difference, and not just blindly hate for no reason.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13795 times:

Caravelle,

don't mind America. I know some nice Americans. But why does America (US part, that is) want to rule the world? In Europe, we don't kind of have this amibtion. You know?

First of all, Europe DID have that ambition, and acted on it. England, France, Spain, and others were all empires, with holdings all over the world. They lost them all not out of their good will, but because they were pried away by war and bankruptcy. So you can take your holier-than-thou self-sanctimoniousness and shove it where the sun does not shine.

Now that that little bit is cleared up, on to the next.

First of all, America is a strange country. It is very much a democracy, and is governed according to the will of the people. And the American people's opinions can change in a heartbeat. In fact they tend to change their minds faster in response to events than the people in most other parts of the world, who tend to stick to their positions (often ideological) longer. That's my observation.

Secondly, you should understand that by its very nature, the U.S. is actually isolationist. This has been proven in its history, and only recently did it realize that isolation did not prevent them from getting dragged into two world wars.

Throughout the 19th century, the U.S. stayed on its own. It basically got dragged kicking and screaming into WWI. So sickened was the U.S. after that with EUROPEAN wars of conquest, that they swore off foreign involvement again by refusing to join the League of Nations.

When EUROPE started acting up again (Japan too) and kicked off WWII, the American people did not want to get involved. In June of 1941, when Hitler was at the height of his power, 82% of Americans were against getting into the war. Then Pearl Harbor happened, Hitler declared war on the U.S. (the stupid twit - the Americans declared only war against Japan on December 8th, 1941, not Germany), and that made American opinions swing 100% in the matter of a couple of days.

After WWII, Americans finally understood that sitting at home and minding your own business is absolutely no guarantee of not being drawn into conflict, and would in fact ensure that the U.S. would get dragged in only at the point where the conflagration has already attained global proportions. Thus was started the United Nations, and Americans decided that the U.S. would regularly become involved in world affairs, with the goal of facing threats before they became another world war.

So the idea of getting actively involved around the world, putting out brush fires and Hitler-wannabees like Saddam is based on a solid history of having tried the alternatives and having been burned badly by them.

Charles


User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13765 times:

Charles,
you're riding wooden horses here, and writing about subjects I never intended to raise or be part of this thread. Why, I wonder?
It's a bit boring.

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13769 times:

We had our time at the top, it can get to be a pain in the arse.

It was all fine and dandy, (though most overseas subjects of the Empire might not have agreed), until the 20th Century, then you had economically ruinous Naval arms races with wannabee imperial upstarts like Germany, then WW1.

Worse, WW2, nearly went under then, and all those military resources and planning for outside of Europe was nearly our undoing, then the Far East defences are weakened to defend the homeland, so the Japs roll in with embarrassing ease.

During all this time, the accumulated wealth of over a century ends up in Washington buying arms. Ironic that, since losing the American colonies in 1776 probably delayed the inevitable imperial overstretch by a 100 years.

But for a more modern parallel, the worst 'blowback' from international interventions for the British Empire was probably the assassination in London of a former British Administrator in India in 1940, for his mis-deeds in India 20 years before, (not counting Irish terrorism, since the UK's entanglement there long predates what we understand as the period of Empire).

But today, the technology allows a bunch of fanatics pissed with America to pull off September 11th.

So being the pre-eminent power has it's drawbacks, more so than ever before.


User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13757 times:

Excellent post Charles I agree with everything you said, and yet when I open your profile, I'm shocked when I see Switzerland for your location  Smile

So the idea of getting actively involved around the world, putting out brush fires and Hitler-wannabees like Saddam is based on a solid history of having tried the alternatives and having been burned badly by them.

I just wish some people on this board would get this through their minds.



25 Post contains images N312RC : You people must remember that America is 280 million people. We're a melting pot of several hundred cultures. There usually (more like always) is NEVE
26 PHX-LJU : Caravelle wrote: >>"Charles, you're riding wooden horses here, and writing about subjects I never intended to raise or be part of this thread. Why, I
27 Cfalk : National_757, I am Swiss, but used to live in the U.S. for some years. I also believe that I paid a bit more attention to my history classes than most
28 KROC : Charles. Very well said post. And the fact that Caravelle tried to blow it off, kills any shred of credibility he may have been carrying.
29 Sean-SAN- : I've always pondered the idea of taking over Mexico and Canada. We could crush their defenses in about half an hour, and we could effectively use Mexi
30 N312RC : If we took Canada we'd have the British Army trying to burn down Washington DC.. all over again! If we took Quebec we'd have the French Army burning d
31 Rai : In addition, they are not willing to address the question of the poor (have you seen the trailer parks and the camps?), have you seen the bag ladies i
32 KRIC777 : I don't think that America wants to rule the world. I will certainly admit, however, that US foreign policy is driven by self interest...but please na
33 B757300 : I can't believe anyone is naive enough to even ask this kind of question. If the United States wanted to take over the world, we would have done it in
34 Post contains images Leftypilot79 : Wow...Charles. That was truly a great post. It made me think. It shows we here in the US aren't just a bunch of selfish 3yr olds wanting to take over
35 Lubcha132 : but if its a pro-american post, it goes down hard and fast.
36 Hkgspotter1 : They are world's police and in the case of Iraq all they want is to put a person of their choice in control of the country and the O I L.
37 Neednewairport : First off, no one said we wanted to rule the world. Secondly, we are the richest, most powerful nation on the planet. We are the only ones with the re
38 KAUSpilot : I'm afraid oil is not the reason hkgspotter. 911 has proven that we cannot sit back and wait for an attack to hit us before we take measures to protec
39 N766ua : Haha. Yeah. If we wanted to rule the world, we'd have done it by now. Trust me.
40 N312RC : Ok, US foreign policy is driven by self-interests.... DUH.. Isnt that the way it should be? Just dare tell me that EU/All EU nations foreign policy is
41 Rai : We buy our Oil outright from Arab nations... Thats why theyve got oodles of cash. This is not correct. Only 30% of U.S. imported oil comes from the Mi
42 CB777 : well said Charles and neednewairport I agree with both of you 100%. I am PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!!!! CB777
43 Alpha 1 : I must commend most of the members on this debate, no matter which side, for such a civil discussion on such an idiotic topic. But I do not want to se
44 Jcs17 : N312RC...couldnt have said it better myself, however I am too tired to type something that long...nice job.
45 ADG : He said RULE the world, not CONQUER the world. How did you get off onto that tangent? VH-ADG
46 Cfalk : Interesting comment, ADG. If you can't win the arguement, then split hairs, hmmm? Charles
47 Maiznblu_757 : We surrender. Signed, France
48 L-188 : Too bad because you are the ones that wrote those two posts N312RC and Alpha1, some people will not read those excellent posts or will discount them.
49 Alpha 1 : ADG, here's the definition of both, Mrs. Hair-splitter: Main Entry: [2]rule Function: verb Inflected Form(s): ruled; rul·ing Date: 13th century trans
50 OO-AOG : They are the only ones that can do it, and it has gave the world a kind of stability for many years. Now, they should ensure to do it with respect of
51 Cfalk : OO-AOG, I understand your position, and it is the proper one, but it assumes that the UN functions as it should and that the members, particularly the
52 Caravelle : I'm still here, and I think I've got it right. For those interested, read one of John Pilger's column on Znet. As English is my third language, I'd li
53 Rai : Carvelle: Do you know who John Pilger is? There isn't one good thing he says about the U.S. (or the Western world for that matter). His own country of
54 Caravelle : The world saw how John Howard treated refugees, less than year ago. I am pleased to say it was a Norwegian ship who saved their lives. And now the Aus
55 Post contains images KLAX : The point I was trying to make here - indeed, the question I was trying to ask was, why does America want to rule the world. The US has no right to, a
56 Caravelle : KLAX, Oh, come on.The US is where the money is. And right now, the money is in oil. We all know that. - caravelle
57 KLAX : Where's your proof bozo? You expect me to believe anything you say? "We" all know that sure. Just ask 256 million other Americans. If it was about the
58 Rai : Caravelle: The fact that absolutely no reputable publication will give this "man" the time of day speaks for itself. If he is your sole source of info
59 Caravelle : KLAX: Yep. That'll be the day. I believe I'll dust my broom. RAI: A man in brackets. Nice try, to no avail. 256 million Americans. There's proof in nu
60 Rai : KLAX, it's not point arguing with a man who can't even tell the difference between brackets and quotation marks. Furthermore, his mind is so warped in
61 Caravelle : The UN Security Council has passed several resolutions on Iraq. What the US is trying to do now, is push things a tad further. And that's an understat
62 Post contains images Flight152 : 4: A new war would mean another step towards an uncertain world. Where did you read this was gonig to turn into a world war ? Hell, was desert storm a
63 Rai : Unlike you, Caravelle, I am more than capable of gathering information (or opinions in Pilger’s case) from a wide spectrum of sources, including tho
64 Caravelle : Flight152, you know better than this. Desert Storm was a job half finished. Now you are going in to move butt. Sounds tough, might be dangerous. I sta
65 Caravelle : Rai, sure I know he has his own website. Why did you ask? And using the word "filth" says far more about you than about JPilger as any one participati
66 Rai : And the fact that you consider Pilger to be the ONLY legitimate source of news says much about you than GWB as anyone one participating in this thread
67 Caravelle : Rai: More sources than one, my friend. Pilger is just one. So far you haven't mentioned any. WYSIWYG, remember? What You See Is What You Get. In this
68 Post contains images KROC : Let's keep it civil here guys, or I'll have to break out the thread lock! Caravelle. While I respect your views, I must say, that you are extremely mi
69 KLAX : What is happening in Iraq is, half a million children have died during the embargo So you blame George Bush, instead of Saddam Hussein for this? Well
70 KROC : What is happening in Iraq is, half a million children have died during the embargo Maybe if Saddam was actually using the money he is making from his
71 Post contains links Rai : I'm not proving any point because I have none to prove. I haven't come out making any impetuous, arrogant and dim-witted statements. If anyone is to p
72 Silverfox : Just to lighten this up a bit.. On a Radio show last week this was mentioned The US is against Iraq as it has used biological weapons....... who used
73 Flight152 : And what is he doing - right now? I wouldnt trust that man with my mother's purse. What a rude comment. Saying that about someone you have NEVER met o
74 Hkgspotter1 : I still think Iraq will have the last laugh. America has almost no support for their hate of Iraq.
75 Alpha 1 : I still think Iraq will have the last laugh. America has almost no support for their hate of Iraq. Right, Hkgspotter1. You're always so amusing. Iraq
76 N312RC : I cant believe how thick headed people are around here... "The embargo is killing children in Iraq." Oh give me a break. Saddam gassed his own people
77 KLAX : cant believe how thick headed people are around here... "The embargo is killing children in Iraq." Oh give me a break. Saddam gassed his own people f
78 Caravelle : I tried very much to be fair about this. I like Americans! Some of my best friends are! Noone here prefers Saddam to Bush. But, here in Europe at leas
79 Caravelle : There are only so many letters to an alphabet. Even you might give it a go. Try reading our posts next time, will you? - caravelle
80 N312RC : Ok Caravelle... You dont prefer Bush to "an intelligent solution".. What exactly is your "intelligent solution"?? Its most likely this policy where we
81 KLAX : Oh yeah, and even if you do think Bush is a moron, I sleep well at night knowing that he has some damned smart people behind him. Colin Powell, Condol
82 Cfalk : I'm also anxious to know what "intelligent alternative" Caravelle can come up with. Charles
83 Caravelle : Cfalk, the intelligent alternative is peace. Not the war mongering of certain US/UK types. - caravelle
84 FDXmech : I think I understand the psychology of bashing the US and Bush, here's why. People would like to feel secure in this unsecure, problematic world. Most
85 Donder10 : Although some of the hawks in the administration and around it scare a lot of people in Europe.Powell and to some extent Rice balance those voices.
86 N312RC : The intelligent alternative is peace... Ok... How do we achieve that? Should we all hold hands and sing "All you need is Love" by the Beatles?
87 Cfalk : Caravelle, What the F&%* do you think all this is about!?! Do you actually believe that Bush, Blair, or anyone else (in the civilized world) actually
88 747-451 : " I don't mind America. I know some nice Americans. But why does America (US part, that is) want to rule the world? In Europe, we don't kind of have t
89 NWA742 : the intelligent alternative is peace. Not the war mongering of certain US/UK types You have no clue as to what you are talking about, just like many o
90 Caravelle : Some strong statements here. I don't mind. I know I'm right. - caravelle
91 AC320 : I know I'm right. Famous last words. My diagnosis; severe rectal-cranial inversion with delusional episodes.
92 NWA : Your just stupid. If we wanted to rule the wolrd, woulden't we be taking land over as we speak? We are not. I think we should take some over IMHO.
93 Post contains links and images AC320 : Besides, everyone knows it's really us Canadians planning to secretly rule the world http://www.standonguard.com
94 Post contains images Aerosol : Ever played Monopoly, you want to win. Im glad its the US who brought their way of life and political ideas to Germany, though we don`t seem to be ver
95 Post contains images Staffan : I want to rule the world, me and mini-me! Staffan
96 Alpha 1 : Cfalk, the intelligent alternative is peace,, It's all well and good to yell "peace!", Caraville, but there's more to "peace" than just saying the wor
97 747-451 : "Some strong statements here. I don't mind. I know I'm right. - caravelle" Gee, stupididy as well as arogance!
98 Post contains images OzarkD9S : We saved Europe from itself twice in 30 years and most of Asia from Japanese Imperialism. Shouldn't we get some kind of prize for that?
99 ADG : We saved Europe from itself twice in 30 years and most of Asia from Japanese Imperialism. Shouldn't we get some kind of prize for that? what you need
100 Alpha 1 : what you need is a prize for overexaggeration ..... Not really, ADG, and if you knew anything about history, you wouldn't make such a naive comment. E
101 Post contains images OzarkD9S : ADG: is a sarcastic little icon, meant to bring a little levity to a slightly inane topic. Sheesh.
102 Lehpron : Alpha_1, neither you or I or Caraville can say who is right or wrong as we are all limited by what we know and believe. Just because you don't believe
103 Post contains images MagicMan_841 : I'd say that in that case "Rulling The World" doesn't involve every country becoming integral part of the US. It's more about exploiting every country
104 Post contains images Rai : I'd say that in that case "Rulling The World" doesn't involve every country becoming integral part of the US. It's more about exploiting every country
105 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Alpha_1, neither you or I or Caraville can say who is right or wrong as we are all limited by what we know and believe. ROTFL. Baloney, Lephron. The g
106 Post contains images 747-451 : "It's more about exploiting every country, their ressources and people to make the US Empire bigger." Just who is exploiting who when every failed soc
107 B747skipper : Friends - xxx I was born in USA, and at age 51, after moving to Argentina and getting married there, I became an Argentina citizen... I believe I know
108 ADG : Not really, ADG, and if you knew anything about history, you wouldn't make such a naive comment. My grasp of history is fine Alpha1 .. it's those who
109 Post contains images Alpha 1 : My grasp of history is fine Alpha1 .. it's those who glibly claim that the US is responsible for the victory in the war who need a lesson in history.
110 Cfalk : ADG, It is a historical fact that Great Britain started the war with only a certain amount of gold and foreign exchange - I believe it was 5 billion p
111 Macyjet : I'm not very old but I seem to remember that only up to about a dacade ago, Germany was actually two countries that vividly displayed waht would have
112 747-451 : You say... "was born in USA, and at age 51, after moving to Argentina and getting married there, I became an Argentina citizen... I believe I know my
113 Ben : It's really interesting to read these discussions. What I see clearly is people who have travelled, have children or are over about 25 (not always but
114 Post contains images Rai : 747-451 pretty much stated everything I wanted to say. I will add that if some of these countries (namely China) whom the USA (and the EU and Japan an
115 Caravelle : I decided to leave this thread a week ago, but good lord, there has been some strange fruit dropping at my feet since then. Take 747-451: He has never
116 Post contains links and images Rai : I decided to leave this thread a week ago, but good lord, there has been some strange fruit dropping at my feet since then. Take 747-451: He has never
117 Caravelle : Sure, you picking up Cuban hookers in Toronto, you're The Authority on Cuba. I should have known. Good Lord, I'm not defending Cuba or Castro here, I
118 Post contains images Rai : They care for their people by whoring 12 year old girls? Puleeze!
119 Caravelle : Rai: Do they? Now you tell me! When I was there, 12 year olds sure weren't walking the streets. Okay, there were some twenty to forty year olds who wa
120 Post contains images Rai : I don't understand your post whatseoever! Completely incomprehensible! What have you been smoking!? But as they say, a picture is worth a thousand wor
121 Cfalk : I can't believe that I read a post her that Cubans under Castro are better off than Americans. I'm in shock. I'm sure any Cuban would too. Hey Caravel
122 Pilot1113 : I think this situation will never get resolved. People will continue to believe what they believe in (even if it is wrong) and no matter what others d
123 747-451 : you say.... "I decided to leave this thread a week ago, but good lord, there has been some strange fruit dropping at my feet since then. Take 747-451:
124 Caravelle : I know from experience, 747, that some Americans can't take criticism, and you seem to be one of them. I travel a lot myself, I have been to the US se
125 747-600X : I have read all of this at length and excited quite a headache in myself. In the mean time, I have decided not to agree that Caravelle's original ques
126 Post contains images Rai : I thought we were finished with this thread? Sad to see it being brought up again. Caravelle again fails to impress.
127 Post contains images Cfalk : 747-600X, So it appears that error is contagious, even over the internet Charles
128 747-451 : As far as being "Mr. Know it All" you do a pretty good job at that; however, neother one of us have all the answers now, do we. However, instead of at
129 Post contains images Flight152 : that some Americans can't take criticism, and you seem to be one of them. I travel a lot myself, I have been to the US several times, and I have close
130 Rai : 747-451: Stop wasting your time! His views are already impregnated in his feeble, little mind and if the age range in his profile is correct (I have a
131 747-451 : I'll take your advice.... regards 747-451
132 Lan_Fanatic : I am chilean, and I love my country. And I thank the US for all they have given to us. I also thank Europe....but Europe has always wanted to stuck it
133 Sebolino : I read: "we thank them for helping Pinochet kicking the commies' asses" Oh ohhhhhh. Pinochet is a so gentle man. Nice boy that Pinochet. Lan_Fanatic i
134 Cfalk : Sebolino, Pinochet may not have been a nice guy, and it seems politically correct to hate the guy today, but we (non-Chileans) don't know what was goi
135 Sebolino : Cfalk, Are you talking of a preventive dictature ? I want to think that your words went to far and that you don't mean it. Allende was elected, don't
136 Cfalk : Hitler was also elected. I'm just saying that Marxist governments have no better human rights records than fascist ones. Sometimes you simply have to
137 Krushny : but we (non-Chileans) don't know what was going on before him, or what prompted his coup. If you do not what was going on before Pinochet, how are you
138 Cfalk : ...nationalize the copper mining industry... That's called stealing, by the way, and it's what got Cuba in trouble with the U.S.. All I am saying is t
139 Sebolino : Cfalk, Allende didn't kill anybody. Pinochet killed and tortured thousands. I dare you ?
140 Cfalk : Allende didn't kill anybody. That's not the only criteria. And in any case, maybe he just hadn't gotten around to it yet. You'll never know. In any ca
141 Krushny : You'll never know. In any case, at least Chili was saved the pain of having been turned into an economic and social basketcase, as has EVERY SINGLE MA
142 Cfalk : Following your logic, USA should have intervened in every European country electing a Socialist Party for government But England and Sweden never talk
143 Post contains images Sebolino : "You'll never know" I can't believe it. So why didn't the US do anything when a former-Nazi was elected in Austria ? Your arguments are really poor: w
144 Lan_Fanatic : Sebolino and all the others: It seems that your countries have never passed thru what Chile passed thru. I do not defend Pinochet in terms of what he
145 Lan_Fanatic : BTW, why should a former-nazi elected in Austria be banned? Why was Pinochet arrested in Europe, while Fidel Castro visits Europe anytime he wants and
146 Post contains images Krushny : It seems that your countries have never passed thru what Chile passed thru. Nooooooo. Nothing really significant has happened in Europe in the last 2
147 Ts-ior : The idea of the people elected has a Jewish background,and this is not surprising as the majority of the government members and the influencing perso
148 Cfalk : The idea of the people elected has a Jewish background,and this is not surprising as the majority of the government members and the influencing person
149 747-451 : Why bother to try to reason with someone who obviously watches Al-Jazeera?
150 Twaneedsnohelp : Ts-ior: All the Arabs many problems is America's fault right??? Is this how you feel? Because if you do - then certainly many others do and then Ameri
151 Flight152 : It is obvious that America wants to rule the world,and its military budget is a proof for that. Our military budget is none of your buisness. What the
152 N79969 : The bottom line is that unrivaled success breeds an equal amount of jealousy. I think most anti-American sentiment can be chalked up to that very basi
153 747-451 : "America wants to rule over the Middle-East to ensure its petroleum needs".. Just like OPEC makes "productivity adjustments" everytime it has somethin
154 747-451 : Quite tasteless and disgusting as far as the Special Olynmpics, but then again If you are here like the rest of us what does that say about you....
155 Continental : Sean-SAN: Yeah, you sort of crossed the line there buddy. Continental
156 Amraam : Sean that takes the cake, what the hell is that about?? That's in real poor taste.
157 Sean-SAN- : Lighten up. Everyone's so politically correct, it's pathetic.
158 Post contains images Cfalk : Call me nasty, but I thought it was funny Charles
159 747-451 : Politically correct=eg:liberal drivel on a Universtiy Campus Disgusting and insensitive=making fun of Special Olympics, et al
160 Flight152 : Lighten up. Everyone's so politically correct, it's pathetic. Its not so funny when you happen to have a mentally retarded uncle.
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