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Dealing With High School Stress And Anxiety  
User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 16
Posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

Hey guys,

I have an urgent problem in which I feel that it must addressed to. I have chosen to do this upon these forums because of the large amount of members, diversity of age groups and with the fact that there are many others who are in my shoes constrained with High School and its drenches.

Right now I am underway in my grade 12 year and I am going through some enormous stresses in my life. This is mainly caused by the large volumes of homework every night and other commitments which I must do. The bad thing is that I usually fail to achieve all these goals within one day/evening because there is simply too much. Unfortunetly I think I am being overwhelmed and that is causing a detremental effect on my grades and my teenage life.

My target is to go to University and partake in a faculty of Engineering. Although my primary goal is to be an airline pilot, I feel that having a backup would be benefitial for me.
Unfortunetly, the requirements for such a course is about an 80%+ and my current overall is about 50.  Sad
I am deeply concerned that if I continue to keep this atrocious way of life, I will not be able to survive much longer in Hgh School not to mention my entire life will collapse. I am very upset about this as already the first term/half of a semester has already gone by and I have failed to achieve a high standard of excellence. I believe that partly the cause of this was my foolishness of not focusing enough during class time Or during Homework where I would listen to music as I work, or watch TV like Survivor or do things on the computer like look at the internet such as this website further leading to my bad usage of time. This I admit is a problem contributing to my downfall and its something I am working on to controll my urges to use the computer whenever possible.
Even if I did avoid TV or Computer for an entire day, I still do not have what it takes to accomplish every homework every night.

I used to be smart back in the days of Junior high achieving 95%+ in math and upper 80s in all my others including English. Once I stepped into High Shool, the runways switched and I started getting marks below 30% of that in my JUnior high days.

Currently, I am arguably the most busiest, conjested, pressured grade 12 student in all of my school because unlike 300 others I am one of the few who dont have a spare this semester and its nothing but course subjects. Outside of school I have my Piano playing, Work, and Flight Training. MY hobby of plane spotting and photography plays a part in my school life but I have cut back the airport spotting trips/photography.

Right Now I am taking Math Pure Grade 12, Chem 12, Social Studies 12, and English Grade 12. Homework from all classes are Demanding, and almost unbearable. IN a typical day I can get as much as 2 Subjects worth of homework done leaving the other two out further causing shit to me.
I always end up sleeping at around 2am every school night where I have to wake up 5 hours later for another day.

Guys: I need some Desperate help or advice. What on God's green Earth should I do? Is there a way that I can get all my shit done in one night?
No matter how hard I try to cram this all in one night it is just impossible to do so. What is worse is that because of the fast pace of the curiculum, the next day I move on to something else further widening the gap of my frailty.

I am almost to the point of begging for some help here. I am deeply worried that this final most important year may ruin my life.
I have sorta improved my life by cutting my flying lessons for now but it doesnt seem to offer any more help and I worry that I may of made a big mistake.

I am in a state of Emergency,
I would therefore appreciate any kind of help or suggestions.
If you have to mock me for my ignorance; which it did to an extent play in my woes, go ahead.
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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Sounds like you're in a world of hurt, and I don't really know that there's a whole lot to do about it. I'd start by talking to some of your teachers and explaining your situation, maybe they'll have some suggestions. Also hit up your counsoler(sp?) that's why they're there.

I really hate to break it to you, but it's not going to get easier in college, especially if you go into engineering, I'm in engineering, and high school was a cakewalk in comparison. On the plus side, if you see it that way, homework isn't much of your grade in most classes.

You'll need to find some sort of solution to your situation before you get to college, or you're not going to have a good experience there, and you're supposed to have fun in college.

Just glanced over your post again and saw that you're doing piano, work, and flight training too. That's not helping. Much as it hurts, you should probably drop one or more of those. Why are you working? Money for college? Flight training? Car? Right now, if it's not going toward college, or some essential part of your life that I don't know about, I'd say lose the job, and the flight training. My observation is that jobs while in school severly cut into your study time. You'll have plenty of time to work in the future, have some fun now man.

You need to get your priorities straight, school should be your top priority. If you have to work to go to school, well that's how it goes sometimes, but you can, and probably should, lose the flight training for now. Keep the piano, it doesn't eat much time and it's relaxing, I wish I still had access to one.

Hope you figure something out.

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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

Ohyeah, one other thing, RELAX!!!

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User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

I am a second-year Sixth Form student in Malta, i.e. one year before University, so I'm pretty much in the same situation as you. What's more, I have similar subjects (okay, I don't take Chemistry because I used to hate it), under this system we have to choose two Advanced Level and three Intermediate Level subjects for our studies. I have Pure Maths and English for A Level, Physics, Computing and Accounts for Int. As many people tell me, a hard choice.
Believe me, sometimes I'm stressed out, too. I come home from school at 2:30pm, eat lunch, occasionally slump into bed till four, then get up, do whatever I manage to till around 7 or 8. Then I give myself the much deserved break at the computer.
How do I manage to live a normal life, as far as I can?
1. Whenever I can, I don't rest till four, starting to work at three, just after lunch. That way I get as many things as possible done.
2. I do my English homeworks as quickly as I can, no rough work, just write. The opposite applies for accounts: I do a rough first, then I copy everything. Otherwise I'd be starting over every ten seconds.
3. If you don't know how to work something, just skip it! This happens to me every day in Maths, we are literally bombarded with homework every day. Guess what - I have loads of questions I haven't worked, the important thing is to understand the general concept. Thank goodness, our teacher is understanding and dedicates a lot of time to 'difficulties'.
4. Do give yourself a break sometime! I make it a point not to do schoolwork after 8pm latest. In the weekend, go out.
5. My advice would be to concentrate as far as you can while doing homeworks, not listening to anything or watching TV etc. I know it's hard but it helps.
Let me just say that I understand you completely, the position of a secondary school student is not an easy one, as I see five days a week.
Feel free to mail me if you want, I enjoy getting feedback from people.

User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined exactly 16 years ago today! , 2734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

I would recommend that you talk to a professional counselor. When they're good, they are advocates for you and can help you sort through whatever is troubling you.

It sounds to me like you feel very overwhelmed with your situation - and it sounds like quite a situation to be in. But, with some assistance from a neutral, qualified person, you can work through the variety of challenges that face you by dealing with them, one by one.

Don't be shy about seeking help. It isn't worth it to go it alone. We all need help sometimes. It's part of being human.

User currently offlinePgh234 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Wow...and my senior year is turning out to be my easiest year since 6th grade. lol I recommend also talking to a counselor, or have you even tried just asking your teachers to back down on the work? I go to a very small school district and know all of the personally, but if I have too much homework or a bunch of tests on the same day, my teachers are always willing to push some stuff back if I ask. Like I said before, my schedule consists of AP Micro/Macro Economics, AP English Lit, AP Calculus II (<--the most FUN class in the world..I am not joking. lol), Web Page Design, Webcasting II, and Preschool...and I am having the time of my life this year. It seems I am one of the few people who actually enjoys high school. hmm..oh well. Good luck and I'm sure you'll pull thru this!


User currently offlineB777 From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Hey Bo,

I have one suggestion. Think of what is the most important thing in your life right now. I would say that focusing on your classes and getting through with high school is the most important priority in your life right now. If I were you, I would cut back everything that would stop you from achieving this goal. If it means no flight lessons, no work and no piano lessons, will-that's what you got to do. Of course I am not suggesting that you spent your 100% of your time on schoolwork. Take an hour a day to do something that you enjoy doing and do fun things over the weekend. But you need to concentrate when your doing your homework (I suggest that you do HW in a room where you don't have TV and computer to distract you). One more thing, talk to your parents about your situation and see what suggestions they have. When I think back to that time of my life, I had days which I was in your shoes but I would say if you try really hard, you will make it. Best of luck.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Bo, you've got some serious issues if you're going through all that your senior year. I've got 4AP's and 3 honors this year (12th), applying to colleges, writing personal statements, etc...and I still can get to bed at 10 most nights if I wanted to. You should talk to your counselor, that's the best thing you can do.

Good luck, and relax a bit, senior year isn't as crucial as soph. and junior year as long as you dont screw up. Keep a decent GPA and you'll be okay.


User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Guys: (Ralgha,Turbolet,B777,Mbmbos,FPSPilot747)

Thank you very much for your advices and Im glad that you guys understand my scenario. They do help to keep my determination throughout this tough life of mine.
I honestly do want to spend about 80% of my daily life doing homework and studies. I know it seems alot but at my magnitude it seems that its the only way to go if I want to get better marks. Unfortunetly TV and Computer are inevitable and sooner of later I watch and use them to I guess to put it in my view: to relax myself from the homework and to give my brain a break from thinking. I guess one of the things I am trying to do for a start is to do as much homework as I can for the first 3 out of 4 classes of NEXT day tonight and do homework for the forth class in school the Next day during lunch or whatever. Because my fourth class (whichever it is depending on the day of week) IS on the LAST block of the Next school day, I feel that I could hold that off and use my morning and lunch times to deal with that.

As for my piano, yes I would like to quit it. I have been trying to quit but unfortunetly my parents won't allow it. But I have talked to them liek over the summer and after January of Next year, I will quit. It had to be January cuz that is when I do my exam. Currently I am in grade 9 level piano and it is quite demanding, I usually practise about 3 hours or sometimes more almost everyday to maintain where I have to be.
I am also working because I want to save up enough money for post secondary and I guess to buy stuff such as a decent car over the long run, help pay the bills for my parents and so forth.
I haven't flown for a while now but I do really like to start continuing this. My overall goal is to straighten out my school issues so I can squeeze in my flying somewhere in my life. A relationship would also be nice, ah the luxuries..

I will talk to my councellor at school later on this month to see if I can get some things straightened out. Right now I guess the good thing is that I have enough credits to graduate. Requirements is 95 credits by the time you finish grade 12. I have 96 credits right NOW and when I finish grade 12 I will have almost 130!. All those extra credits for what? Nothing if I do crap in my classes.

Pgh234: You must be some sort of miracle! To say that your going through a breeze in High school is, Hot damm~ I wish I could be like that.
I guess going to a smaller school rather than a large public high school in the suburbs is perhaps better in terms of grades?
At my school the teachers I have are ruthless of giving out homework and high standards of marking one's work.

Overall, I guess I am just feeling frusterated by these turn of events in my school year. I wish the 24 hour clock was the 48 hour clock so I could accomplish more and still have time left in the day to relax and have soem free time. Dammit! My inability to bend time!  Smile

But yeah, Like for this weekend I have plans for focusing on all homework, piano practises, and work. I just hope I can have the brains to keep my word and to do all that rather than to be an idiot and waste all this precious time.

Still I welcome more suggestions, and whatever stuff you guys reading this would have to say.


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User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

I dunno, but here in France they give WAY more homework then in the U.S. And its getting really anoying!!!  Angry
But when I get all mad, I just go play an hour of Day of Defeat or Counter-Strike. It calms me down so that I can concentrate better when I start working.
But hey, like nike says: "Just do it"

-Clovis  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2610 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

I know sort of how you feel Bo, and as B777 said, you need to set some priorities and let the people around you know of those priorities.

If you want to be an airline pilot, piano will not help you unfortunately. Quitting the lessons is probably the answer, but I'm not going to tell you what to do. But one thing is for sure, if you aren't going to be a concert pianist, you should not be practicing 3 hours a day!! I'm lucky if I can get an hour and a half a day of practicing on the clarinet and piano together. I'm sure you could cut back a little bit.

School should be a priority for you. I suggest that one day next week, you come home and forget about everything else and just sit down and do your homework. Every last bit of it. Because if you want to go to University, that's what you need to do. Schoolwork should be your top priority You have to screw everything else, no matter what anybody says. It's your life, don't let your parents make you take piano lessons if it's interfering with your top priority, school.

As for flying lessons, I think it's crazy how high-school kids try to build flight hours at such a young age. If you are actually going to be a pilot, just wait until you're at least in college or through with college to start in with that. And believe me, if you cut back on the flying lessons, you probably won't have to work! Yes, I also think it's silly that high-school kids think they have to work, for reasons aforementioned.

Now, a personal anecdote.

While I'm only a 10th grade student, I feel much of the same pressure you're feeling. Sure, I could just breeze through my high school years by taking the easy way out, but I can't, because I have a goal. I am hoping to be accepted into the United States Air Force Academy, and it's quite a feat to accomplish. In order to make myself a good candidate for the Academy, I have to get good grades, take difficult classes, excel in sports, and be an active leader at school and in the community. Oh my god.

So, this is how I'm choosing to do all that.

In every year of high school, I will be taking the hardest classes that I can possibly take for my grade level. This year, I'm taking Algebra II, Trig, Theoretical Chemistry, Biology, English III, French II, 20th century w.hist/geo. It's tough. I get tons of homework, tons of difficult homework that I often struggle with. Now, don't think I'm just making this up. I go to what is accepted as the public high school with the academic standards in the entire state of Colorado, and one of the best high schools in the nation. It's so tough that every year kids are dropping out in order to go to an "easier" high school. I personally know one of those people. So basically, I go to a hard school.

In addition to academics, I'm involved in sports. Cross country for two months at the beginning of the school year, and track for the last two month of the school year. That means practice every day after school until 5:00, and usually once a week we have a meet which will last until about 6:00, I get home at 7:00. Sometimes that's twice a week. It leaves pretty much no time for even homework, but I force myself to do my homework, even if I stay up until midnight.

In addition to that, I'm second chair clarinetist in my school's wind ensemble. This wind ensemble is the best in the state of Colorado and was ranked among the top 1% of all high school bands, and we have won numerous national awards. This year, we are once again traveling to Indianapolis to attend the National Concert Band Festival, which our wind ensemble has attended nearly 10 times before. Obviously, the demands are heavy, and the standard is high. I need to practice about an hour per night just to keep up. Oh yeah, I play in the pep band too.

In addition to that, I play piano because I love it and it's fun. I take a lesson once a week, and try to practice an hour each night.

In addition to that, I'm involved in my church quite a bit. That takes up a lot of time, and I have to get 25 hours of community service in the coming months.

I also like photography, and I devote time to that whenever I can.

Damn! I wish I could cook me up some time, but I just can't. So I have to prioritize, and lower the expectations. During the sports seasons, the sport comes first, but I place equal emphasis on getting my homework done, including practicing my clarinet. If I can get all of that stuff done in one night, I'm happy. And yes, I can get all that stuff done easily. During the sports seasons, I have to quit the piano lessons, and I'm lucky if I can practice 15 minutes a day. I hardly ever even touch my camera either, because I have no time.

During the non-sports seasons, I can usually get everything I mentioned above finished. I still work out for about an hour each day to keep in shape.

But I left something out. Where's my social life? Frankly, I don't have one outside of school. I socialize at school, and at sports practice, and at church, but other than that, I have no social life. But I don't really care. My goal to attend the USAFA does not require me to be a socialite, nor does it require me to have a girlfriend - although it would be nice!  Big thumbs up

Here's how I look at it: I have a couple years of hell to endure. It's like running a 5K race - it's hell, but it lasts for less than 20 minutes. I can do it! And in 10 years from now when I'm flying a C5-Galaxy to Afghanistan or a 777 to Tokyo, I'm going to look back and say DAMN! look at my life now! Wasn't it worth it to just stick it out?

Good luck, you'll figure it out.


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2610 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

Oh yeah, about the computer thing. I too am hopelessly addicted to the computer. Yes, my counselor classifies my computer habits as an addiction. You just have to take your computer usage down in little steps - 1 hour per day, then the next day it's 45 minutes, then 30. You don't have to eliminate your computer time, but just reduce it. The computer is ruining my life as well, and I need to kick the addiction. You and me together!

User currently offlineWorldVoyager From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

Take easier classes! You don't by any means HAVE to go into engineering in order to be a pilot.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Damn right you shouldn't take hard classes in high school. I was of the "take the hard classes" mind in high school, I took the hardest I could find, and you know what? When I got to college, I found out it was all worth exactly jack shit. I learned exactly nothing useful in high school, and my opinion is that it is just something the state board invented to keep kids occupied between elementary school and college.

You may think I'm full of it now, but you'll see what I mean when you get to college.

The teachers that say this is how they do it in college? It's not.

The classes that prepare you for college? They don't.

Lets teach you how to take notes so you can do better in lectures in college!!! Yeah right, I haven't seen ANYONE in college use those damn "recommended" note styles.

I could go on and on, but I'll stop here.

My point is, don't freak out about high school, it's not worth it.

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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Ralgha, absolutely! Those “harder courses” are just a scam. I took all I.B. courses when I was in high school and guess what it did for me? Jack shit! They don’t prepare you at all for what you do in college and I really ended up regretting taking them. Colleges look at you grades, not the courses you took or what level they were. This is the case for both the U.S. and Canada, where you live. If these harder courses are making your grades suffer, then drop them! Your GPA is the most important thing for getting you in school!

To my knowledge, there are only two schools that really give these higher level courses any credence -- McGill and CalTech. But that was quite a few years ago and I do not know if it is the case today…I doubt it.

I.B. is useful for foreign students trying to get into western schools because it is an “accepted international standard” that is widely recognized by all western universities…but it won’t do fuck-all in your situation.

Seriously, the only I.B. MAY help you in college is in the sciences. It’s good for Physics, Biology and Math, but not so good for Chemistry. That was in my school, but all courses have the same curriculum. Do not take English I.B. -- utter waste of time. Same with Social Studies and French.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

If you think that high school is stressful...wait til college!!  Smile

America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3951 times:


Relax, man. I'm 20 and I had the exact same problems you did in high school. I once heard an old saying and it helps me every time life gets hard: this too shall pass. Just keep going, its only another 8 months, then you can do whatever the hell you want!! If you don't get the marks in high school, you can always go to an adult education center to upgrade. I did a few courses at a work at your own pace program, and I got straight A's. So don't worry, it'll all pan out in the end. Fate has a way of working things out for you. Just take a deep breath, watch some airplanes, and do the best you can. In a year from now, you'll look back and laugh. I can't stop laughing at the thought of me in high school and all the work and how stressed out I was. I never thought I was going to make it, but now I'm doing what I want. I have a job, a car, I'm doing my CPL, and everything looks good. So don't worry, it'll get easier. Stay focused, you'll be alright man.

By the way, keep up the good photos, I'm a big fan.


"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3937 times:

Easy answer....quit some programs to open up free time. You're doing this to yourself...


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2610 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Colleges look at you grades, not the courses you took or what level they were.


Colleges want to see that you can challenge yourself by taking advanced courses. The want to see that you can deal with the pressure, and that you can excel even when under that pressure.

Of course, I'm talking about "selective" or "highly-selective" colleges. If you want to just skate through high school and college, go ahead and skate on through. But that's just not me.  Smile


User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3913 times:


Colleges want to see that you can challenge yourself by taking advanced courses. The want to see that you can deal with the pressure, and that you can excel even when under that pressure.

Of course, I'm talking about "selective" or "highly-selective" colleges. If you want to just skate through high school and college, go ahead and skate on through. But that's just not me.

I disagree with you there. I’m speaking from my own experience as a former IB student, a former college student and from what my father (a college professor) and some of his friends (one is on the admissions committee at Harvard) have said. These advanced courses aren’t as important as they are hyped up to be. They are much more important for international students (but in reality, money talks for them) than they are for us.

High school teachers and guidance counselors promote these advanced programs because they get actually get funding for each student that partakes in them. This was a major cash cow at my high school and, obviously, they encouraged as many students as possible to sign on, saying that “advanced courses are what colleges are looking for,” “they prepare you better for the rigors of university,” and other bullshit like that. What they didn’t say is that grades and SAT scores (for U.S. schools) are far more important in the selections process than some stupid IB diploma that wouldn’t be worth your used up toilet paper.

Maybe some schools look into these courses (I know of McGill and CalTech, but that was years ago and I heard that McGill doesn’t place that high priority on them anymore), but ONLY if you do well in them. Say you’re a full I.B. student applying into Harvard with an 85% average competing with a student who took all regular courses and finished up with a 95% average. 85% is pretty good, but 95% is that much better. They’re going to probably lean towards him because of his better grades, regardless of the fact that his courses were much tougher. And we’re talking about “highly selective” schools here too. It’s the SATs and grades that matter and maybe extra-curricular activities will put you a step ahead.

Of course, if you can attain a 95% average in AP or IB courses compared to the student who got 95% in regular courses, it might help…but it also depends on what you do outside of class too.

To be honest, it doesn’t really matter where you go to college at the undergrad level, just as long as it’s not a bullshit school with a lousy reputation. Graduate school is a completely different story. But then, I’ve worked with some Harvard and Yale grads who were possibly the most useless and incompetent people I have come across.

User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3913 times:


This all seems to be easier said than done. My school has an IB program and there are a number of students participating in this. Yes there are alot of asian people involved with the IB program.
I am really starting to think about myself upon this, is english 30 and chem 30 really neccessary for me? Often in class I ask myself why on earth I decided to take these courses for Grade 12. I could of taken English 33, a more lower english level class but I decided to go for 30.

However, on the contrary I am finding Math and Social studies 30 more tolerable. Yes my marks arent as good as I expect 74% and 63%, I feel that if I spend more time on those two classes, than English and Chem, I can do much better.. I find it sad that on quizzes and tests that I make such stupid mistakes.. (One instance I thought 6x2 was 18!! 2 marks docked off.
Boy did I feel like a FOOOOOOOL!

But yeah, I still think that I should rationalize my time more effectively but with all the load factors, time just flies.
I am also quite surprised that these things do jack Crap once in Post Secondary. Well I guess a few parts do come in handy but from what I have read from a few of you guys, it seems a vast majority of things like English and Social are meaningless.

Right now, things are at a difficult position for me but I will suck it up and do my best to make the most out of it as some of you guys advised. Thanks  Smile
I don't know exactly what this will overall bring for me, but if it will help bring me out of this hole, I am all for it.

Shawn: You are certainly one hell of a busy guy! But if you can pull all this through on your school year, you deserve an award and a scholarship!  Smile
But then your next years in High School will really put you to the test so prepare yourself well. If possible, ALWAYS get a spare! Don't do what I did! I belive a spare is almost fundemental to your success as you would get valuable time to study and finish homework, especially if you are going to continue being busy like this.

Jayce: Big grin Thanks! Glad you like my photos, Hopefully next year I can return to Vancouver to shoot pictures of planes there. Despite the school stresses I will still take pictures and spot planes for my hobby which I dearly value.

Oh and one more thing, Aeronautical Engineering. THIS is the faculty I would TRULY like to go for once I finish my High School and enter Post Secondary.
Aerospace Engineering would be my second choice if Aeronatutical is N/A.
UNforutnetly the bad news is that No Post Secondary institutions in my province or this part of Canada has such a faculty so I am kinda screwed.
I can go for Civil Engineering but I aint sure if that is really worth it.
I am trying to aim my standards to meet the criteria for this course once I finish High school. But again as I said, I am not sure if Civil is proper for me.
I thought Chem was the only one not required for this, but I was wrong so I have no choice but to take it which I dont feel too happy about.

- bo

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User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3918 times:


You have a very interesting dilemma to which I can very easily relate. I had similar problems in high school and especially in college. Although an above average student, who could effortlessly got straight A's if I only wanted to, I slowly began losing interest towards the end of high school and beginning of college, simply because I had too much work and stress, and felt everyone was demanding too much of my time and energy. I did nothing about it, but just let it continue to grow, until my second year in college when I had more extra curricular activities than schoolwork itself. The result? I got myself suspended for one semester because I'd neglected my schoolwork. I pleaded with the dean not to suspend me, but he felt I needed to take a break to reasses what was most important in life. He was right - that semester I continued my studies at the local community college (had them later transferred), and quit many of the activities that were holding me back. Yeah, a few friends were upset when I had to pull out of this musical or that, but overall I had to think of and please MYSELF.

My advice to you is twofold. You first need to consider which extra curricular activities are most helpful to you at this time. Sometimes we have the wild idea that we must do everything now or else something terrible will happen, but we are young and have a long life ahead of us.

Secondly, get yourself an day planner in order to organize your time. I have a Compaq Ipaq and am so addicted to it, but previously I used a simple day planner book available at any bookstore for about $5. From what you've described, it seems as if your various activities are not being given the appropriate time frames. Every Sunday, take 3 minutes to carefully plan your week; 7am-3pm School, Mondays 4-5 piano, Survivor (can't miss THAT!) Mondays 5:30-6pm, A.net 6-8pm, Homework 8-10pm, etc. It will be diffcult for the first three or so weeks to stick to your schedule, but after a while it will develop into a habit. You will notice a dramatic change in productivity and how you manage your time. You'll get back in control of your own life and free time instead of feeling helplessly tossed around by your various commitments.

Consider my advice carefully, it has helped to bring freedom back into my life.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3891 times:


Yes I know it sounds suppressing that high school is meaningless, but you'll understand when you get to college. I'm not saying don't take hard classes in high school, if you want to, and like it, by all means do it. I'm just saying that it doesn't matter like the high school tells you it does.


If you're not in college, or out of college, you have no grounds to argue your point. Your argument sounds exactly like what the high school counselor spew at you.

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User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Why do you not just explain to your teachers that's you have two much homework and ask them if u can like hand in some late. The better opsion I think is to start dropping subjects if you are aloud to do that. Your last year at school should be easy with lots of free periods. That's what I am doing.

P.s. don't worry about it if you cant get it done you cant get it done what's the worst they can do if you explain it to them before hand. The schools in your countries sound bad compared to Scotland we do most a the heard work in S4 and S5 and get most things past then S6 is just upgrading your S5 grades or getting extra highers from them you get in S5.

User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3881 times:


I didn't know you were taking IB classes. I also started out in the IB program, but because of everything I ended up switching to the "mainstream" classes. I regret that as it would have almost guaranteed admittance to pretty much any university or post secondary school that I wanted.

I say stick with it, and maybe put a few hobbies on the shelf. Not for good, but just until June.

Good luck and let me know how everything goes,


"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
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