SAS23 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1465 times:
Those brave members of the IDF have been at it again, killing two children aged four and twelve and two elderly women. They claim that they came under fire from the buildings, yet no damage was caused to any of their armoured vehicles or casualties to their troops.
Yet again, there will be relatives of those murdered by the Israelis who will feel that they have nothing more to lose ... and will retaliate by becoming suicide bombers.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1437 times:
Sounds like more flamebait from SAS23, the napalm king of these forums.
You're right Staffan. Maybe someone will learn that but it's unlikely. At least there are now 2 less potential suicide bombers...
Sad if civillians get killed in combat, but that's the nature of warfare. Collateral damage cannot always be avoided, especially in an urban environment.
Avi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1400 times:
When will these people learn?
SAS23, this is a very good question. When will these people learn that when you open fire including an anti-tank missile which hit one of its (Israeli) armoured vehicles (from the article) they will be shot back?
When will these people learn that as long as they continue to surround themselves with civilians while they are firing, they will get them killed?
When will these people learn?
Lets check one more thing.
You said: yet no damage was caused to any of their armoured vehicles
and the article that YOU gave said: including an anti-tank missile which hit one of its armoured vehicles
Do you have reading understanding problems?
Do you think the soldiers should wait until they get killed or injured to fire back? I don’t. They have the right to protect themselves when they are under attack.
B757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1395 times:
To SAS23, all Palestinians are old women and children.
Maybe if the "civilians" would stop providing support for the terrorists, they wouldn't get killed. SAS, to answer your question. It will only stop when the Palestinian people are tired of it and dispose of the leadership of the terrorists organizations. However, that isn't going to happen. So as long as they continue to provide support to the explosion crazy terrorists, they are legit targets.
Galaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1385 times:
here is an excerpt from the Article that SS23 posted "The Israeli army killed six people, including two children and two elderly women, when tanks shelled houses in Rafah in the Gaza Strip yesterday. The army said it was responding to fire from the buildings, including an anti-tank missile which hit one of its armoured vehicles without causing serious damage."
do you see were it says "the army was responding to fire from the buildings, including an anti-tank missle which hit one of the armoured vehicles" hmmmm i guess SS23 has selective reading abilities.
"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
Bravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
How many civilians live in Israel when for all of them the military service is compulsory????
And here on this thread the talk is about kids and women killed on purpose by some of your "innocent civilians" which happened to be armed and in uniform, while are pledging your full full support by saying things you are saying. Say that you support it, or say that this is not IN ANY WAY differnent than the suicide bombings, I'd say its WORSE. Reason to some dumbheads who would ask WHY??, this was an ORGANISED ARMY with the FULL authority of a country and its government.
AC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1317 times:
Bravo45, read the friggin' article
"The army said it was responding to fire from the buildings, including an anti-tank missile which hit one of its armoured vehicles without causing serious damage."
It did cause damage and they were fired upon apparently from those buildings and therefore they were right to return fire. That's how armies work; someone shoots them, they shoot back. The blame should be placed on the heads of the extremists who are using civilians as cover and i'm sure they know action that put civilians in the line of fire create stories with half-truths that can make people sympathetic to their cause.
ADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1308 times:
NO more suicide attacks by the Palestinians would give Israel absolutley NO reason to go into Palestinians territories in search of terrorists, unfortunatley and stupidly killing civilians.
Whilst this statement is essentially true....
Stop terror, and everything stops.
This one is not .. the occupation and annexing of more of the land of Palestine by the new jewish settlers would continue and most likely accellerate. israel has shown no indication that it is willing to force the illegal settlers to leave.
I'd like to see an end to the violence, but action is needed on both sides.
By the way, it's not "accidental" killing of civilians, it's negligent killing which is completely different.