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Pat Buchanan Calls "Canuckistan" A Terrorist Haven  
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Former US Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan today attacked Canada as being a "haven for international terrorists".

Referring to the country as "Soviet Canuckistan" in his MSNBC television show, Buchanan called for the US to ignore Canadas official protest against the deportation of a Canadian citizen to Syria.

"(The Canadians) are the blame America first crowd. (They) have been defended by the United States, they pay nothing for defence. That place is a complete haven for international terrorists. We need lectures from some people, not from Soviet Canuckistan."

The Ottawa based Council of Canadians responded to Buchanan's statement with "It's a disgusting and disgraceful statement based in ignorance. There's no evidence to support the statement that Canada is a haven (for terrorists). We don't have snipers running around with guns. That's not our culture."

Buchanan's views on Canada have been called into question before, when in 1992 he made a statement that "for most Americans, Canada is sort of like a case of latent arthritis. We really don't think about it, unless it acts up."

In other news, US Ambassador to Canada, Paul Cellucci, issued an official apology to the Canadians for the deportation incident that sparked the latest controversy. Canadian Foreign Minister Bill Graham said Thursday that "(Cellucci) informed me that in the future Canadians carrying Canadian passports will not be treated any differently depending on where they were born or for any reason whatsoever."

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User currently offline777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

I think we all know that Mr. Buchanan is a nutcase and should be ignored.  Nuts

 Yeah sure


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Not sure which is funnier, "Soviet Canuckistan" or " Ottawa based Council of Canadians".


" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

Typical crappola from a political has-been who is trying to resuscitate his flagging career by making an inflammatory comment. The truth is that poor Pat and his fellow fascist by birth, sister Bay, will try anything to be in the news. I used to be offended by Pat's drivel, but I think he is just an entertaining hack who will say anything to be in the news, including attempting a presidential bid with this crazy woman who was even nuttier than him.

User currently offlineUSAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

"for most Americans, Canada is sort of like a case of latent arthritis. We really don't think about it, unless it acts up."

I have to agree with Buchanan on this one though (I never thought I'd say that). Canada is definitely over shadowed by the United States and is rarely ever talked about by the American media; the only time we hear about Canada is when they bitch about us (not that they don't have the right to). You would think that since they are right next door to us, we would hear about other things than their dislikes about us. But I guess that's just how it goes, I guess we just think that since they for the most part speak English and seem the same as us we just don't think about them.

I'll admit it, we Americans for the most part are ignorant when it comes to other countries, but I don't feel like I'm losing out, I have all I want here.

Erik in MSP


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Herr Buchanan has gotten very wealthy and very well known hurling canisters of gas at roaring bonfires. Like all assholes, he is nothing more than the leftover noise of a well digested issue.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

If you eliminate all of the offensive statements, what Buchanan is saying is pretty much true. The Canadians are very lax in terms of immigration and they grant pretty much anyone and their mother political asylum. They have more problems with illegal immigration than we do, and they dont even seem to care (at least we pretend to let illegal immigration bother us, even though we dont do much about it). Canada is an indirect danger to the U.S. just due to the fact that we share a very unprotected border with them, and with the fact that they let anyone in their country doesnt help anything. The Canadian military has had its budget slashed by the Liberals in the previous years and now struggles to keep itself afloat.

"for most Americans, Canada is sort of like a case of latent arthritis. We really don't think about it, unless it acts up."

As much as I dont hate Canada, the above statement is pretty much true. As I once heard from a "conservative" Canadian journalist on FNC about the immigration problems, "Canada is like the guy sleeping on your couch, you just dont have the heart to tell them to shape up and get their act together." Dont get me wrong here, Canada is a nice place, I've enjoyed it when I've been there but it certainly does have its problems, and those problems are threatening the American way of life.




America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Wow- quite a statement. I'm still tryin to figure out when and where the US defended us from anything........That Buchanan is a nutcase.

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Probably one of the few things most Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Pat Buchanan is a political failure who flipped out long ago.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineRadarbeam From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 1310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

That's what I'm trying to figure out too. In any event, Buchanan seems to have forgotten that when the FAA closed the US airspace on sept 11, 2001 all the planes bound for the US were diverted in Canada and that thousands of Americans were given a shelter and food for about 5 days. Wasn't he glad that his Canuckistans neighbors were there to help?

Radarbeam


User currently offlineIHadAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

RadarBeam says... "Buchanan seems to have forgotten that when the FAA closed the US airspace on Sept 11, 2001 all the planes bound for the US were diverted in Canada and that thousands of Americans were given a shelter and food for about 5 days".. just remember Buchanan is nuts (even for a Yank)

Just remember This American will never forget what Canada did for us on and after Sept 1, 2001 and I and all (almost) American's are grateful.

Yours,
IHadAPheo



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineRadarbeam From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 1310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

I know Americans are grateful, and we are happy we could help you guys out, if needed we would do it again. I think Buchanan speech was just for the show, just an entertaimnent value.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

Just remember This American will never forget what Canada did for us on and after Sept 1 (I assume 11), 2001 and I and all (almost) American's are grateful.

I was very proud to have Canada as our neighbor to the north on Sept. 11 and the following days. All Canadians should be proud of the way their country took in travellers to the US and treated them so well.  Smile. Not to mention Canada producing one of the greatest modern-day conservative pundits around, Jamie Glazov. However, the Canadian government's response to Sept. 11 was weak at best.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

I hope no one North of the Border presumes that Buchanan speaks for most Americans. Almost everyone I know despises the man. He's a deliberate pain in the a$$ for all rational and sane Americans. And as far as Americans "not thinking about Canada," that really only holds true for the geographically illiterate (and there are many) who probably can't even find Canada on the map.

I'm still trying to figure out why conservative republicans aren't embarrassed by Buchanan's antics over the years. Hmmmm. Kinda telling about that party if you ask me.

As a side note, I'm getting the feeling that at a time when the U.S. needs its closest allies the most, this country seems to burning bridges with them. This is no time to be attacking our allies (unlesss it's warranted).

How could anyone attack Canada this way?


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Because loons like him make the rest of us seem in the mainstream  Big thumbs up


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

To be honest to a lot of people of either major type of political pursuasion the response to him is obvious.....




OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

I'm still trying to figure out why conservative republicans aren't embarrassed by Buchanan's antics over the years. Hmmmm. Kinda telling about that party if you ask me.

Last time I checked Pat Buchanan belonged to the Reform Party, not the Republicans. Although I agree with his statements (if you take out the offensive stuff), it is unfair to lump his views in with that of the Republican party, considering he left it to become the Reform Party candidate. Get your facts straight, before making a broad attack on the Republican party.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13213 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Someone should remind this dork about where the Sept 11th hijackers learnt to fly.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Rumsfeld(sp?)has said that the US contains the most Al Qaeda cells in the world.By Buchanan's thinking does this make the US a terrorist haven? Smile
I wish I had the link to the 'shut the fuck up'JPEG,KROC used


User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2081 times:

I simply give Pat Buchanan the same treatment I give to most politicians' utterances.

Specifically, I treat their muttering the same way I treat the noise of the vehicles that go down my street: as background noise, going in one ear and out the other.


User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Jcs17 wrote:

...it is unfair to lump his views in with that of the Republican party, considering he left it to become the Reform Party candidate. Get your facts straight, before making a broad attack on the Republican party.


Little guy, who the he11 are you telling to get "facts straight?" Is Pat yer uncle or somethin? We all know the idiot defected to the Republican Party, but he is STILL, nonetheless, embraced by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Newt, and Jesse Helms. Right? He's basically still a "conservative" republican at heart. He even was quoted as saying that during the last Presidential race.

And besides, if there are any people who thrive on making "broad attacks" on people it IS the republicans.

"Tree hugging liberals?" Ever heard of that one? I think every conservative Republican has used that broad attack at anyone who disagrees with them.


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

What proof does Buchanan have for saying that Canada is became a terrorist haven? I certainly haven't heard anything like that before.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

tnnh


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6878 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1909 times:

The day Pat Buchanan runs against Ross Perot, I think I'll vote Perot ! LOL

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Pat Buchanan, lol. I have no respect for the guy.

Canadians-- Do not get offended, this is just another dumb remark from the dumbest person in the United States  Nuts

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Little guy, who the he11 are you telling to get "facts straight?" Is Pat yer uncle or somethin? We all know the idiot defected to the Republican Party, but he is STILL, nonetheless, embraced by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Newt, and Jesse Helms. Right? He's basically still a "conservative" republican at heart. He even was quoted as saying that during the last Presidential race.


Show me proof that Gingrich, Limbaugh, and Helms endorsed Pat Buchanan in any way during the last election. They all agree with him on certain issues but to say he is embraced by them is an irresponsible statement.

And besides, if there are any people who thrive on making "broad attacks" on people it IS the republicans.

Yeah, right. In case you havent been paying attention, your beloved dems are certainly guilty of scare tactics. Targeting the elderly and the blacks---and if you say that this isnt true...you need to open your eyes, go check out some of the ads on the DNC website.

"Tree hugging liberals?" Ever heard of that one? I think every conservative Republican has used that broad attack at anyone who disagrees with them

Right...I dont think that Democrats have ever been guility of using generalizations EVER. They are such an honest party, filled with honest, and honorable people.

Where did it say in my posts above that I like Buchanan. I dont. I just agree with what he said, when you take out the offensive stuff.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
25 Polaris : Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it a white supremacist that first coined the phrase "Soviet Canuckistan"? If so, who was it? From CTV News: It's no
26 Yyz717 : Canadians-- Do not get offended, this is just another dumb remark from the dumbest person in the United States LOL. No worries. He's well known up her
27 Post contains links B747-437B : The Canadians are very lax in terms of immigration If the fact that they process applications usually within 18 months of receiving them as opposed to
28 AC320 : 6.5 years in the USA and over $10,000 later I'm still waiting for a green card
29 Post contains images Dripstick :
30 IMissPiedmont : "If you eliminate all of the offensive statements,....." Then Pat would be rendered mute.
31 Post contains links and images Airplay : In my opinion Pat Buchanan has just replaced Jesse Helms as the US politician most ignorant on the relationship between Canada and the US. Both these
32 Jcs17 : If the fact that they process applications usually within 18 months of receiving them as opposed to the 10 years or more that the US usually requires
33 Post contains links and images Avt007 : I came across an interesting quote where he calls us the most important country in the world to the US. http://www.issues2000.org/Pat_Buchanan_Foreign
34 Post contains images Jayce : When did American defend us? Didn't they just bomb us in Afghanistan? What if Canada had done that to the US? There would be a big giant hole where Ca
35 AC320 : Buchanan on Quebec: Offer seceding provinces alliances or statehood He is now officially sub-moronic and a complete @sshole, and that is subprisingly
36 Airplay : In no way am I saying that the US is a model example for immigration policy. But at least we "say" that we do not allow terrorists into our country, C
37 Jcs17 : That's a pretty short sighted comment and is inaccurate. It would be just as inappropriate to say that the US doesn't have to let "terrorists" in...t
38 Yyz717 : At least the Canadians have a definite policy about who they let in to the country. This is absolutely not true. Canada's immigration policy is full o
39 AC320 : Canada and it's policies poses as much a threat to the United States as a drop of my spit is to Atlantic Ocean's ecosystem. Maybe Canada occasionally
40 Cmk10 : Honestly, no one should ever take what Pat Buchanan says seriously. If he told me my pants were on fire and I felt heat on my legs, I wouldn't listen
41 B747-437B : Canada's immigration policy is full of loopholes. Thousands of 3rd world migrants bend/break the rules to arrive in Canada each year, and then claim r
42 L-188 : I mentioned it allready once in another post but I will repost here. If memory serves, More Canadian citizens came south and join the US Armed Forces
43 AC320 : I'm a "yahoo from Quebec" and very much a Canadian thank you very much, you just offended a whole bunch of Canadian users here
44 Post contains images L-188 : Damm Francophones..... We talked about this earlier.....Real Canadians come from north of 60
45 AC320 : I'm an Anglophone and very pissed off
46 L-188 : I claim to be quarter Canadian myself AC320, my grandmother was born and raised in Alberta.
47 AC320 : wow I feel so much better knowing that now thank you, it justifies everything *that set the sarcasm metre off the scale*
48 Post contains links L-188 : Relax, I was trying to kid not to insult there..... Actually there where some of the countrymen that got a kick out of that north of 60 comment. Did y
49 AC320 : Your attempt at a joke failed
50 L-188 : With you yes..... I'll stick with the guys on that other topic.
51 Hepkat : This past year, I have had the (mis)fortune to have been interrogated by both a US Government agency (INS) and a Canadian agency (CSIS). The differenc
52 Post contains images Airplay : Jcs17, What's more dangerous? Canada allowing terrorists in (which is pure BS) or the US letting them in from Canada and Mexico etc. If the US is craw
53 Polaris : Jcs17: considering the fact that they have allowed documented terrorists in to their country. Canada's immigration policies are a clear danger to Ame
54 Post contains images B747-437B : The biggest gripe I have with Canada's immigration policy is that they ALLOWED a convicted drunk driver named George W. Bush to visit the country desp
55 Jcs17 : First of all, let's have a list of these documented terrorists that have entered Canada, your proof that they are terrorists, and where this informat
56 Yyz717 : I completely agree with JCS17. Canada has proven to have poor border controls on its own. The US is well within its rights to deny/restrict entry to a
57 Post contains links B747-437B : that only applies to people requesting visas, not visting the country for a few days. If that was the law, half of the Kennedy's could never go to Can
58 Fly_yhm : All I have to say is a bit of an addition to what GDB said about the hijackers learning to fly in the U.S. well they also got through U.S. Security. a
59 L-188 : a good portion of americans think that we live in igloos and have cold and snow all year round No they think that about Alaska, not Canada.
60 AC320 : Actually when I first moved here I was asked some interesting questions by 7th grade students including one who thought we lived in igloos, one who th
61 Post contains images Jcs17 : Weird people in this world I think you meant "stupid people in this world"...
62 Polaris : Jcs17: I dont see how you can tell me that Canada is perfect in terms of immigration policy. Those are your words, not mine. I never said that. Howeve
63 Airplay : Here's another angle: There is such great concern about letting so-called terrorists into Canada. The target of these terrorists isn't typically Canad
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