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What Would You Do To Improve Your Country?  
User currently offlineG-KIRAN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2000, 736 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10994 times:

Hear is my plan for a new political party in the UK and I am assuming that my party has just won the general election(fat chance) and I am currently in 10 Downing street being attened by a butler called "jeeves" while an Admiral explains to me how to use nuclear weapons.....So here is what I would do to improve the UK and assuming that I am allowed to do it.....

National Indentity
1.Draw up an oath of allegencience to crown,government and country and make it compulsory for all new citizens.

2.Make it compulsory for either the National Anthem(all 4 verses) or Land of Hope and Glory to be sung everyday in schools.

3.Bring in laws to protect native ethnic Anglo-Saxon/Celtic languages in the UK by making it compulsory for all students in Wales to learn Welsh and for all students in Scotland to learn Gaelic/Scottish(this should keep G-KIRK happy!).

4.Get rid of this political correctness rubbish

5.Introduce national indentity cards.

6.Citizenship class for all pre GCSE classes and newly arrived immigrants.

7.Stop so-called ethnic assemblies,all students must congregrate togather regardless of ethnicity or religion.

8.Schools must represent the society around them and extra emphasis must
be placed on encouraging students to use English more often.

9.If youre born in Britain and live here you are expected to swear allegence to the country and you are expected to intregratre well into mainstream society.

10.Ghettos of immigrants will be broken up and they will be forced to resettle.Let it be known that I was came from the only non-white family in the neighbourhodd and that most of my friends in school where white and that has enabled me to be more British.

11.Take away all heredity titles from the aristocarcy and the members of the royal family except the monarch.Its important that we have a class-less Britain.

12.Stop the tradition of bowing or curtsying to the monarch.

Education
1.Increase education funding to at least 15% of GDP.Our youth is our future!

2.Scrap independent examination boards and have a single examination controlled by the government.

3.Making it compulsory for all pre-university students to have at least one outside curriculum time activity such as sports or a society.

4.Bring back coporal punishment for students who:take or push drugs,are caught vandalising school property,students caught smoking,bullyingetc.All canings must be in the presence of a police officer and social worker.

6.All students must take at least one non British langauge(ie not English,Welsh or Gaelic) for GCSEs and for AS levels.

7.Reduce the coursework and "take it home' exams in the current system.

8.Introduce an official schools table system for schools and universities.

9.Introudce Government schemes which allow gifted and able children from poor backgrounds to enjoy public school education.

10.Create Britains own "Ivy league" comprising of the Universities of Oxford,Cambridge and London among others.These universities will receive extra funding.

11.Place for empahsis on R&D in the areas of computing and genetics.

12.Increase the wages and benefits of teachers,hopefully this will encourage more people to join the profession.Its important that they should understand that they are building and mould our future.

13.Increase the minimum staring salary for a teacher to $40000

14.Students must take examinations in order to progress from one level to another.This way only those that can cope will be advanced whiel those who dont will be given special attention.

Health and social care
1.Increase spending to at least 15% of GDP

2.Build more and more hospitals

3.Increase the wages for doctors(min wage:$55000) and especially nurses(min wage:$45000) and stop recruiting from overseas.

4.Make patients pay subsidised fees for basic treatment.However all life threatning and major operations will still be free.

5.Start more medical schools at universities with increased funding.Also lower the entry requierements from AAA to around ABB.

6.An end to benefits for single mothers under the age of 21.

7.Increased education in schools on AIDS and underage sex.The increasing number of teenage mothers in the UK worrying.

8.People will only be allowed to immigrate to the UK provided that they have a job waiting for them.

9.Scrap the dole as some $80 billion every year is going down the drain.

Crime
1.Bring back the death penalty for all those convicted to first degree murder(must have DNA evidence),rape(must have DNA evidence) and treason.This means that Britain will pull out of the European Convention of Human rights.This also means that the British muslims who fought for the Taleban will be hanged.

2.The trafficking of illegal drugs such as Heroin,Cocaine etc will carry the punishment of at least 10 years in prison upon conviction.

3.The abolishment of trial by jury.The jury will be repeaced by a panel of judges.

4.No-one is above the law and that includes the monarch.

5.Anti-social crimes such as rioting(for what ever reason),vandalism(ie Michael Fay) will be punished by canning.

6.Increased funding and better wages for the police and fire services.

Defence
1.Increase defence spending to 5% of GDP and ensure that it does not drop below 3% of GDP.

2.Provide more and better equipment of our fighting men-and that includes better uniforms for the RAF!

3.Increase Britains ability to project force,such as more aircraft carriers,assault ships and associated equipment.Also increase Britains nuclear deterrent.

4.Acknowledge the role played by Britains armed forces in shaping and protect the country.

5.Stop the downscaling of the armed forces which has been the case for several years now.

6.Increase the wages and benefits substantially for those in the armed forces.

7.Start cadet programs such as the ROTC in every school,so that young children will be encouraged to join the armed forces.

Transport
1.Increase funding!!!!

2.Modernise Britains railways and build high speed lines such as those in France and Japan.

3.Modernise the London Underground and build similar systems for Manchester,Birmingham and Glasgow.

4.Build a massive airport near London and close down LHR and LGW.

5.Upgrade BHX,MAN and Glasgow

Economic Development
1.Stall Britains entry into the Euro for at least 5 more years so that a study can be carried out to see how the Eu-11 countries are doing with the Euro.At the rate they and we are going we are better off without it.

2.Join NAFTA so that we can broaded our trade options and sign more Free Trade Agreements with countries like Japan,China and the rest of the world.

3.Pull Britain out of the EU if a European superstate is on the cards.

4.Pump money into the regeneration on inner city areas especially in the north.

5.Apart from London, other cities such as Birmingham,Cardiff,Manchester and Edinburgh should be given extra funding to turn them into really world class cities with top notch infastrucsture.

These are just some of the things that I would do.



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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10909 times:

Reduce the beuacracy in teaching,police force etc.
Move more of the public services into the private sector
If we want to increase our presence in peace-keeping,increase the military
Look to expand free trade areas to north africa+eastern europe(romania etc-not the 1st wave of eu expansion)


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10920 times:

Well... I think you wouldn´t have to bother about the Euro any more if you implemented your program. The EU would kick out Britain anyway in that case because of human rights violations.

"Welcome back to the 19th century!"


User currently offlineB747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10909 times:

For the US (this is gonna look a lot like the Republican ideals):

1. Make saying the pledge of allegiance once a day mandatory in publically funding institutions and public offices, punishable by a fine. If you're going to use the country's money, then you are going to pledge yourself to the country.

2. Pull out of the UN. The UN has lost most of its power, and we end up spending so much money for little return.

3. Get rid of all this private school vouchers nonsense. You have a free public school out there, if you choose for your kids not to go, then that's your problem, you still need to pay taxes. Other kids should not have to suffer (from bad education) because you think you're too good to go to public school.

4. Increase the defense budget. The ballistic missile defense shield should be completed, and battleships need to be brought back. The military needs to be increased to protect ourselves.

5. Weaken the justice department. They cause more trouble than they're worth. Leave microsoft alone, and the airlines also.

6. Buy more from Boeing, and give them "loans" also, so they can start to compete with Airbus again.

7. Make abortion illegal. Its sick, its murder, fetuses have brains within the first 2 months of pregnancy. You have no right to kill a baby.

8. Become more involved with Canada, and eventually invite them to join our country.

9. Tighten the border with Mexico. If people want to come, come legally.

10. Tighten immigration. You need to have a job when coming here, or else you're getting sent back.

11. Reduce welfare. Get a job, stop living off the system.

12. Reduce social security. Sorry, but it doesn't work. If you cannot save yourself, then that's your problem.

13. Get rid of affirmative action. You will get the job if you are qualified, not because you are black.

14. Kill reparations. Blacks are not getting any money just because their ancestors were slaves. You were not a slave, I was not a slave owner, so you get nothing..

15. Invade Iraq. Take Sadamn from power, even if there are no WMD. He is not fit to rule. Institute a democratic government. Maintain military presence.

16. Find Osama bin Laden. Get all the information from him possible, then kill him.

17. Increase ties with Japan, China, Russia, Australia, Britain, and other important countries.

18. Drill for more oil in Alaska. It has been shown that the caribou (or whatever lives up there) population has GROWN since drilling commenced. I'm not saying getting rid of the refuge, just drilling in the .01% that might have oil.

-Nick


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10901 times:

1.Draw up an oath of allegencience to crown,government and country and make it compulsory for all new citizens.

Ok, I guess. What would it say? Would it have any significance on anything, or would it be there for ceremonial reasons?

2.Make it compulsory for either the National Anthem(all 4 verses) or Land of Hope and Glory to be sung everyday in schools.

No way in hell. The country is just too diverse for this to happen. Not to mention the moral and personal objections people have to both the monarchy and "God".

3.Bring in laws to protect native ethnic Anglo-Saxon/Celtic languages in the UK by making it compulsory for all students in Wales to learn Welsh and for all students in Scotland to learn Gaelic/Scottish(this should keep G-KIRK happy!).

With a shit education system, this won't happen successfully. Again, this is pointless! It'll tear the country apart and deprive people of English which is an international language.

4.Get rid of this political correctness rubbish

It's not rubbish. Is the right not to be called a "nigger" or "paki" or "towel head" etc etc rubbish?

5.Introduce national indentity cards.

Why?

6.Citizenship class for all pre GCSE classes and newly arrived immigrants.

Oh great. Another worthless subject for people to do. Education is pretty bad now, but substituting core subjects like English, Maths, History and languages for "citizenship classes" (? they being what exactly? How to help old ladies cross the road? Brain washing people into being good citizens Clockwork Orange-style?) is ludicrous.

7.Stop so-called ethnic assemblies,all students must congregrate togather regardless of ethnicity or religion.

One totalitarian race where minority gatherings are banned?! Screams 30s Germany to me dude...

8.Schools must represent the society around them and extra emphasis must
be placed on encouraging students to use English more often.


Unless they're in Wales and Scotland where Gaelic will be used?? Contradicting yourself isn't good.

9.If youre born in Britain and live here you are expected to swear allegence to the country and you are expected to intregratre well into mainstream society.

Define "mainstream society" and how you would enforce this. As with your first point, what the hell is the purpose of swearing an allegence?

10.Ghettos of immigrants will be broken up and they will be forced to resettle.Let it be known that I was came from the only non-white family in the neighbourhodd and that most of my friends in school where white and that has enabled me to be more British.

Heil!

11.Take away all heredity titles from the aristocarcy and the members of the royal family except the monarch.Its important that we have a class-less Britain.

Classless = socialist?

12.Stop the tradition of bowing or curtsying to the monarch.

Obviously not. Because everyone is equal, right?

1.Increase education funding to at least 15% of GDP.Our youth is our future!

There's no point spending on the future when people today are suffering. Public transport and hospitals are just as important. Wasting money on "citizenship classes" and Gaelic classes won't help the future.

2.Scrap independent examination boards and have a single examination controlled by the government.

Ok in principle but gets rid of the choice multiple independant (key word) examination boards give.

3.Making it compulsory for all pre-university students to have at least one outside curriculum time activity such as sports or a society.


Enforcable how?! Getting some kids to school is a problem, let alone making them do out of school activities.

4.Bring back coporal punishment for students who:take or push drugs,are caught vandalising school property,students caught smoking,bullyingetc.All canings must be in the presence of a police officer and social worker.

Big ol' can of worms this. One point - how will it help? If a kid gets beaten at school he or she just won't come to school. This isn't the 50s.

6.All students must take at least one non British langauge(ie not English,Welsh or Gaelic) for GCSEs and for AS levels.

But you want more attention to be focused on English???

7.Reduce the coursework and "take it home' exams in the current system.

Yeah, lets go back to those great multi-hour make it or break it exams of the past. Personal preference, but I hated them.

8.Introduce an official schools table system for schools and universities.

There already are tables dude.

9.Introudce Government schemes which allow gifted and able children from poor backgrounds to enjoy public school education.

Yes, this was called Assisted Places, which the Tory's had and Labour took away. But you want everyone to be equal! No public schools!

10.Create Britains own "Ivy league" comprising of the Universities of Oxford,Cambridge and London among others.These universities will receive extra funding.

Believe me, Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial all get way more money that the Uni of Bradford for example.

11.Place for empahsis on R&D in the areas of computing and genetics.

Wee! Technology! The future! NO! More emphasis should be placed of English, History and particularly MATHS. Maths is important for any country's development as a key world leader. The link isn't obvious, but it's definatly there.

12.Increase the wages and benefits of teachers,hopefully this will encourage more people to join the profession.Its important that they should understand that they are building and mould our future.

Fair enough, but money isn't a key motivational factor. Stop critising teaching and education every single day in the Sun and the News of the World and more people would join.

13.Increase the minimum staring salary for a teacher to $40000

LOL! Do you know what the average salary is?! I'm assuming you mean £ not $, and if you did you can kiss goodbye to single digit inflation.

14.Students must take examinations in order to progress from one level to another.This way only those that can cope will be advanced whiel those who dont will be given special attention.

Great, more exams. Just what the kids of today really need. Kids can take >100 exams before reaching uni. They don't need more.

1.Increase spending to at least 15% of GDP

30% GDP on health and education? The government doesn't ACTUALLY get GDP you know, it gets taxes. 30% GDP is a LOT of money.

2.Build more and more hospitals

Not improve current hospitals?

3.Increase the wages for doctors(min wage:$55000) and especially nurses(min wage:$45000) and stop recruiting from overseas.

Wtf? This is Britain? Where are the $ coming from? If you mean £ forget about it. Inflation goes through the roof, not to mention the lack of hard cash.

4.Make patients pay subsidised fees for basic treatment.However all life threatning and major operations will still be free.


Where's the line? Goes against the whole point of the NHS.

5.Start more medical schools at universities with increased funding.Also lower the entry requierements from AAA to around ABB.

The point of the high entry requirements is BECAUSE DOCTORS NEED TO BE CLEVER! There are many many applicants for medicine, only the best should be accepted.

6.An end to benefits for single mothers under the age of 21.

An end to benefits? What, have them living out on the street?

7.Increased education in schools on AIDS and underage sex.The increasing number of teenage mothers in the UK worrying.

I think you're missing out words. There needs to be more education about all STDs and more importantly CONTRACEPTION. I can't stress this enough.

8.People will only be allowed to immigrate to the UK provided that they have a job waiting for them.

What about if they're fleeing from countries that are persecuting them? They have family here?

9.Scrap the dole as some $80 billion every year is going down the drain.

And have the millions of unemployed people beg?! Are you really that stupid? The dole money comes back to the government when unemployed people spend money (taxes that businesses pay).

1.Bring back the death penalty for all those convicted to first degree murder(must have DNA evidence),rape(must have DNA evidence) and treason.This means that Britain will pull out of the European Convention of Human rights.This also means that the British muslims who fought for the Taleban will be hanged.

Because DNA evidence is so conclusive? Wrong. Check your facts. Personally, this issue is out of the scope of this thread, but I find it appaling.

2.The trafficking of illegal drugs such as Heroin,Cocaine etc will carry the punishment of at least 10 years in prison upon conviction.

It's already pretty high dude. Life is max, I think.

3.The abolishment of trial by jury.The jury will be repeaced by a panel of judges.

Wrong on so many levels. Trial by jury has been a founding stone of nearly every major country in the world.

4.No-one is above the law and that includes the monarch.

This is already the case.

5.Anti-social crimes such as rioting(for what ever reason),vandalism(ie Michael Fay) will be punished by canning.

!!!! I can't even think of anything to put here.

6.Increased funding and better wages for the police and fire services.

Put it to good use - modernise them too.

1.Increase defence spending to 5% of GDP and ensure that it does not drop below 3% of GDP.

Ah, from all the money the country has floating about.

2.Provide more and better equipment of our fighting men-and that includes better uniforms for the RAF!

Men AND WOMEN. Please don't forget that. Better uniforms? Are you stoned?

3.Increase Britains ability to project force,such as more aircraft carriers,assault ships and associated equipment.Also increase Britains nuclear deterrent.

Yeah, so if a nuclear war happens we can REALLY destroy the world instead of just destroying the world.

4.Acknowledge the role played by Britains armed forces in shaping and protect the country.

Er...how?

5.Stop the downscaling of the armed forces which has been the case for several years now.

Just how much of a threat is posed to this country? And where are we getting the money from this?

6.Increase the wages and benefits substantially for those in the armed forces.

Is this part of acknowleding them? Again, is the magic money fairy going to give us the cash?

7.Start cadet programs such as the ROTC in every school,so that young children will be encouraged to join the armed forces.

Great, less people going to uni, more people preparing for war. This country really needs that.

1.Increase funding!!!!

MONEY SOLVES EVERYTHING!! Or does it? Sort out the bloody system, don't just throw money at it.

2.Modernise Britains railways and build high speed lines such as those in France and Japan.

Yeah sure. I'll write you a cheque. How much you want? I hope you realise that if we ever get to this point in your political manifesto, they'd be a new word in the dictionary - hypermegauberinflation.

3.Modernise the London Underground and build similar systems for Manchester,Birmingham and Glasgow.

Money? And yeah, just build systems. It's as easy as that. Just take a shovel and in 6 months you have fully working urban undergrounds in major cities. Honestly.

4.Build a massive airport near London and close down LHR and LGW.

Oh. My. God. So just close down LHR and LGW? And find all that free space near london to build a massive airport? I'm not even going to bother with this one!

5.Upgrade BHX,MAN and Glasgow

"Upgrade"?

1.Stall Britains entry into the Euro for at least 5 more years so that a study can be carried out to see how the Eu-11 countries are doing with the Euro.At the rate they and we are going we are better off without it.

Going fine until your last sentence betrays your bias. 5 more years of stalling isn't going to stop the companies pulling out of Britain because of the uncertainty about the Euro.

2.Join NAFTA so that we can broaded our trade options and sign more Free Trade Agreements with countries like Japan,China and the rest of the world.

More paper work and corupt systems. Just what we need.

3.Pull Britain out of the EU if a European superstate is on the cards.

A European superstate isn't on the cards. I don't know what's going on inside your head (honestly) but an EU superstate is on a figment of some Americans' imaginations.

4.Pump money into the regeneration on inner city areas especially in the north.

Oh money come from a pump now? Maybe a well underground? So THAT'S where we're going to fund all this from!

5.Apart from London, other cities such as Birmingham,Cardiff,Manchester and Edinburgh should be given extra funding to turn them into really world class cities with top notch infastrucsture.

Yeah, London's SO not important is it?


I went off into sarcasm at the end, but you can see my point. Every point you made had flaws. Some were rediculous, some were socialist, some were insane and very few were feasible. Things aren't as simple as you seem to think they are. If your ideas went ahead this countrywould be catapulted back to the 1800s.


User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10884 times:

Just a few points I wanted to comment on.

Make it compulsory for either the National Anthem(all 4 verses) or Land of Hope and Glory to be sung everyday in schools.

If youre born in Britain and live here you are expected to swear allegence to the country and you are expected to intregratre well into mainstream society.


Although well intentioned, you can't force a person to pledge allegiance. There will always be those that are patriotic and those that are not. What would be the proposed punishment for refusing to pledge allegiance?

Increase spending to at least 15% of GDP

With all due respects, 15% of GDP is a HUGE amount of money. I don't believe any one item on any country's agenda merits or receives 15% of its GDP.

People will only be allowed to immigrate to the UK provided that they have a job waiting for them.

This would effectively bring immigration to a grinding halt. Do not forget that Britain is the vibrant, exciting place it is owing in large part to the efforts of immigrants. Immigrants bring ideas and skills to their new countries. According to the famous American saying, "our Asians are better than their Asians."

No-one is above the law and that includes the monarch.

For this to work you'd have to completely abolish the monarchy. As it is right now, the Queen cannot be tried in any British or Commonwealth court of law, as they all belong to her. There exists no judge with the authority to judge her as they derive all their authority and carry out acts of justice in her name. Where would she sit in one of her courts of law? Next to the judge? Above him? A republic, on the other hand, is a different situation altogether.

Pump money into the regeneration on inner city areas especially in the north.

I think the experiences of west and east Germany have shown that this approach does not work. It's not enough to simply "pump" money into degenerated areas. You have to affect a change of mindset, the way of living, else all that money is wasted.


User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10876 times:

What I would do for Malta:

1. Solve the problem of bilinguism. There's many people who don't know good English or Maltese (or both as a matter of fact). That has to be solved!!

2. Find a way to improve the country's economy! That's badly needed right now.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10866 times:

1. declare that no politician may run for parliament or cabinet positions
2. tougher immigration laws. All aliens without valid papers (residence permit, visa or EU passport) to be deported immediately (rather than just told to leave after which they go underground and enter into crime)
3. bring back the draft. Youth crime went up over 200% after abandoning it, discipline and respect for others went down the drain.
4. tougher sentences for all crimes across the board.
5. zero-tollerance on drugs and public violence
6. do away with subsidised agriculture and use the money to subsidise R&D instead (including improved education in the physical sciences).



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10862 times:


  1. Every year, the world's major countries are ranked according to overall quality of life (the UN's Human Development Index), freedom from corruption (Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index) and economic competitiveness (World Economic Forum). If Canada ranks in the Top 5 in at least 2 of the 3, legislators, deputy ministers and assistant deputy ministers would receive a 10% performance bonus. Finishing in the Top 5 in all three would double the bonus to 20%.

  2. I'd rely on good advisors to see me through, resist the urge to micromanage, and delegate out work to others if they have better qualifications than I do to do the job right.

  3. Put in place at each department a 'debugging' staff which would have 90 days to review government legislation relevant to their department between the second and final House of Commons votes to identify potential problems. Their debugging report on each piece of legislation would be on the public record, and the department's minister would be required to initial each item in the report as evidence of being aware of any potential problems.

  4. Practice moderation in all things.



User currently offlineClimbout From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10848 times:

777236ER,

I really enjoyed reading your responses. You know I always get a kick out of your posts.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10837 times:
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With Gordon Brown in charge of the countries money, most of the things you listed are far distant realities. Although huge amounts of money is being spent on health,education,transport and crime, it will take a good few years to take effect.



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User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10818 times:

1) Become a republic

2) Change the flag: http://www.ausflag.com.au/new/pfdc/images/020.gif

3) Amend the constitution to ensure that all state/federal/territorial elections are held at the same time to fully reflect the current political feeling of the nation

4) Introduce optional voting for 15-17 year olds

(on a lighter note)

5) Outlaw slang, especially that ghastly phrase "g'day mate" (cringe)

6) Terraform the Desert into lush temperate and alpine vegetation (mad-dogs and englishmen and all that.)

Regards,

QANTASforever


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10816 times:

For me, just take what B747forlife posted, and make it the exact opposite. This isn't a personal attack, it's just what I genuinely feel.

I guess that's why I get labeled with the "Liberal" stamp once in awhile....and I want to dispel the myth that the US government doesn't give aid to businesses and that Canadians are interested in joining "the Union".



User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10807 times:

1. Give petty thieves '3 strikes' and loose a finger, another 3 and it's a thumb, and for serious crime like armed robbery etc. - loose an arm !!. (just the threat of it should be enough to reduce crime).

2. Send the Illegal immigrants straight back, or lock them up Australian style until their claims are processed (If they are genuine, they should be grateful they have arrived in the UK and should put up with it for a few months until they have been sorted out, if things were really that bad where they came from, then that can only be better. If the situation was reversed, I sure as sh!t know I would be grateful.), non of this giving them money and council houses crap and letting them go off and start their own crime syndicates etc. They travelled halfway accross Europe, and didn't bother to claim asylum in other 'safe' countries such as Italy/France/Gremany, they just want to sponge off the UK as we are souch a soft touch. In a majority of cases they are not being 'persecuted' in their own countries, they are just coming here for a better life.

3. Get rid of Political Correctness. It's all a load of Bs. Why can't we call a postman a postman anymore, and why has a board that is black and has been commonly called a blackboard for the last god knows how many years suddenly got to be called a chalk board, it's stuff like that that is ruining this country - it's total madness !!.

4. Change the immigration system, just because someone in your family lives here, does not give you the right to come and live here. If you do come and live here, at least have the courtesy to speak English when you are outside your own home.

5. Legalise certain drugs. People are going to take them anyway, so at least they will know what they are taking if it's legal as the quality would be better and supplied by reputable outlets such as chemists etc.

6. Bring back national service. (would also help reduce crime by getting people off the streets).

7. Lock up parents who show no concern for their children, and let them bunk off school and cause trouble etc.

8. Make people recycle more of their rubbish and charge higher council taxes for those who 'can't be bothered'.

9. Spend at least half of the road tax revenue on the roads. There are better quality dirt roads in the Outback than surfaced roads in the UK.

10. Introduce 'Chain Gangs' like in the US and get the criminals out onto the streets to clean up graffiti/sweep rubbish etc, and suffer the humiliation of being seen by doing it. (another way to reduce re-offenders).

11. Stop giving Billions of £'s to the sponges in the EU/rest of the world, and spend it sorting out our own country first.

Just my 2p's worth.

 Smile



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User currently offlineB747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10798 times:

Airplay-

Thats cool, differing opinions make the world go round.

-Nick


User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10790 times:

Y'all know my views on most things political; less government is better.

My modest contribution would be this: establish and implement a fast and complete transition to metric measures in all respects.



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User currently offlineIMisspiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10774 times:

Sure, make the "pledge of allegiance" mandatory in the US. That will sure srengthen our resolve. As an American patriot I am offended by the thought. If a person believes in, and wants to, salute our flag, more power to them. I do and am offended when I see the stars and bars hanging on the side of someones house, flown at hight without being lit or (worst of all) flown with 20% of the flag in tatters.

And 747forlife, the school vouchers are a purely republican concept.



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User currently offlineIMisspiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10773 times:

Oops, forgot to say what I would do to improve my country. Fire the Congress en masse and start over. People that go to the senate or house should not have lifelong pensions, free medical care and unlimited travel for life. Our founding fathers envisioned people going to volunteer their time with nominal pay for a short while and then joining their communities again. I doubt that anyone in Congress can, or really wants to, understand the realityof life. It seems that none are able to accept the fact that America is no longer the driving force in the world and that most of us don't give a damn if the Iraqis or (fill in the blank) have a dictator bleeding them dry. We don't even seem to care that we live in our own form of dictatorship> Hell, in this country you're considered a maverick if if vote libertarioan. That just means we still have a one party government that tolerates a "dissenting" view. LOL!

I live in a country full of feel good sheep that are unable to express any opinion that doesn't conform to the party line. Kruschev was right, the US was buried without a single shot being fired in protest.



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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10764 times:

4. Increase the defense budget. The ballistic missile defense shield should be completed, and battleships need to be brought back. The military needs to be increased to protect ourselves.

While I agree with most of your views, including this one, I need to point out that in the age of ship to ship missiles, nuclear subs, and aircraft carriers, the big gun battleship is obsolete. Even the four Iowa class ships that were modernized are now retired.

I think Canada might want to stay independent, and no offense, I kinda don't want them in this Union. 50 states is enought. Canada is divided into many provinces which means that if they did join (God forbid, but still, no offense to any Canadians out there) we would be adding quite a few new states and territories.

Social security is touchy. I'd try to save it. That money comes out of your paycheck, so I'd expect to have it when I retire. After all, that money I DID work for.

Abortion. Well, I agree with most of what you said, but (cases of rape and incest are rare, but DO happen, better not subject a life to the knowledge that his dad is also his uncle or his dad raped his mom) there are also events where termination of the pregnancy is necessary to save the mother's life. This is a thorny issue. I feel tough regulation, and consultation of parents (if those seeking abortion are teen), the father of the fetus (whatever happened to fathers' rights) and the person who will be getting the abortion herself. Again though, this is a thorny subject with many variables.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10761 times:

1- Privatize the health system. It's embarrassing for Canada to have hospitals in their current condition.

2- Encourage unemployed people to work. The welfare system as it is now is very slack and it's VERY easy for freeloaders to take advantage of the system.

3- Try to lower taxes wherever possible. (the 14.5% goods and services tax in Quebec and some other provinces is absolutely ridiculous). People need to live a little...

4-I don't know much about the condition of highways and major roads in the rest of Canada, but Quebec's are disgusting. Money needs to be spent on upgrading and maintaining our existing infrastructure.

5-Improve immigration laws, bring more intelligent people who can contribute to this country, not the other way around. Also, make it easier for them to assimilate into Canada.



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User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10734 times:

Boeing4ever wrote: "I kinda don't want them in this Union."

It has no real chance of ever happening anyway.

First, the issue would be simply too explosive. Any prime minister who even raised the issue would get stiff resistance from cabinet, backbenchers, the provincial premiers, the civil service, the media and everyone else.

Second, think of Canada joining the Union not as one big merger but hundreds of little mergers: Canada Post with the U.S. Postal Service, CCRA with the IRS, etc. Now imagine how messy and expensive those kinds of mergers could get.

Third, the Republicans would never go for it, especially the Southern variety. Gallup has done comparative polls on attitudes toward controversial issues in the U.S. and Canada, and how Canadians would vote if they could vote in U.S. presidential elections. The polls generally suggested Canada would be a liberal/Democratic fortress.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10734 times:

Well... I think you wouldn´t have to bother about the Euro any more if you implemented your program. The EU would kick out Britain anyway in that case because of human rights violations.

Wouldn't that be a boon for Britian!! I'm all for it!!

I wouldn't go as far as G-KIRAN. In fact, no where near as far. Some of his ideas are downright scary. But on the point of teaching English in an english-speaking society, and de-emphasizing Political Correctness, I'm all for those in the U.S.

A few points on what B747forlife said about the U.S.

1. Make saying the pledge of allegiance once a day mandatory in publically funding institutions and public offices, punishable by a fine. If you're going to use the country's money, then you are going to pledge yourself to the country.

Bullshit. This isn't the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. You cannot dictate or legislate loyalty. It's a moot point anyway, because such a stupid idea as this would be struck down in court as violating the 1st Amendment. That's utter crap.

3. Get rid of all this private school vouchers nonsense. You have a free public school out there, if you choose for your kids not to go, then that's your problem, you still need to pay taxes. Other kids should not have to suffer (from bad education) because you think you're too good to go to public school.

I thought this was a GOP platform??  Big grin I agree with you 100% on this point.

4. Increase the defense budget. The ballistic missile defense shield should be completed, and battleships need to be brought back. The military needs to be increased to protect ourselves.

Yes, let's spend ourselves into oblivion over systems we don't need. That's just handing candy out to the kiddies who run defense corporations. Increase where needed, like in pay for service personel, and in lift capability, but not on toys that don't work.

11. Reduce welfare. Get a job, stop living off the system.

Fine, you want to do that, then cut off corporate welfare COMPLETELY. It makes no sense to punish the poorest in society, while doling out billions to corporations who are screwing over their shareholders and the country in the process, as what we did with Bush's buddies at Enron.

12. Reduce social security. Sorry, but it doesn't work. If you cannot save yourself, then that's your problem.

Fine, then you can go hungry when you're older, and let's see where your pride gets you. SS was never meant to "save" people, but is a benefit that workers pay into their whole lives while working, and they should see some benefits for those taxes. It's meant as a way to suppliment retirement income, which is almost never 100% of what one made by working. That's just stupid thinking.

14. Kill reparations. Blacks are not getting any money just because their ancestors were slaves. You were not a slave, I was not a slave owner, so you get nothing.

Agree 1000%

15. Invade Iraq. Take Sadamn from power, even if there are no WMD. He is not fit to rule. Institute a democratic government. Maintain military presence.

Invading Iraq without a pretext goes against the long, proud tradition of the U.S. In the present context, and invaison will and SHOULD only take place if 1. Iraq intereferes with UN weapons inspections. That's an automatic trigger for action, as sanctioned by the UN, or 2. If Saddam precipitates something overtly. Invading just to make Republicans feel like they have balls hanging between their legs only gets people killed. Wake up.

I agree with some of what you say, but the rest is just a right-wing Republican's wet dream come true, and would be dangerous to the freedoms we now enjoy.


User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10720 times:

What would I do to improve the US.

Foreign Policy:
-I would restart America's old "America First" policy from the pre-WWII era and make the USA a neutral power. I would vacate many of our foreign bases except for the most strategic ones.

Domestic Policy:
-I would take the a large percentage of the money we no longer spend on the industrial-military complex and put it into a complete top-to-bottom overhaul of the education systems. Our population would be the most educated in the entire world.

-Make full fluency in the English language mandatory for all citizens below 50 years of age. New immigrants would be provided with 5 months of mandatory English tutoring, followed by a written test of English skills.







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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10700 times:

Great, another moron know-it-all who's sure their way it right.

1. Give petty thieves '3 strikes' and loose a finger, another 3 and it's a thumb, and for serious crime like armed robbery etc. - loose an arm !!. (just the threat of it should be enough to reduce crime).

Are you actually serious? If you are, you're one fucked up person. Are you ACTUALLY for mutilations and torture for pretty crimes?!

2. Send the Illegal immigrants straight back, or lock them up Australian style until their claims are processed (If they are genuine, they should be grateful they have arrived in the UK and should put up with it for a few months until they have been sorted out, if things were really that bad where they came from, then that can only be better. If the situation was reversed, I sure as sh!t know I would be grateful.), non of this giving them money and council houses crap and letting them go off and start their own crime syndicates etc. They travelled halfway accross Europe, and didn't bother to claim asylum in other 'safe' countries such as Italy/France/Gremany, they just want to sponge off the UK as we are souch a soft touch. In a majority of cases they are not being 'persecuted' in their own countries, they are just coming here for a better life.

It's really not as simple as that. Firstly, you don't seem to acknoledge the some people ARE persecuted in countries around the world. If you think that then you really have your head in the sand. There are people who are desperate, homeless and the West should do as much as possible to help them. I'd like to know how you "know" all this stuff: In a majority of cases they are not being 'persecuted' in their own countries, they are just coming here for a better life. Gee, really? You're the home secretary then are you? No, you're reading the Sun and the News of the World and assuming every asylum seeker is a moocher who just wants to come here because we're a "soft touch".

3. Get rid of Political Correctness. It's all a load of Bs. Why can't we call a postman a postman anymore, and why has a board that is black and has been commonly called a blackboard for the last god knows how many years suddenly got to be called a chalk board, it's stuff like that that is ruining this country - it's total madness !!.

Yeah, all that political correctness is bullshit. I mean, "nigger" is only a word isn't it?! If those stupid negro or paki people wanna think they're just as good as us they should stop complaining! We're letting them live like equals aren't we? They should shut up and be happy with what they've got.

Yeal all political correctness is bullshit. As for the postman comment, has it ever struck you that there are postwomen?

4. Change the immigration system, just because someone in your family lives here, does not give you the right to come and live here. If you do come and live here, at least have the courtesy to speak English when you are outside your own home.

Hmm, a mine field. What would you do? Lock them up until we found out whether they "deserve" to be here? The current system works well. You may not know it, but not everyone is automatically guaranteed a place here just because they have family here. As for the language, I'm sure its SO easy to learn English. Maybe you should give a similar comment to the thousands of British tourists walking the streets of Pairs speaking English.

5. Legalise certain drugs. People are going to take them anyway, so at least they will know what they are taking if it's legal as the quality would be better and supplied by reputable outlets such as chemists etc.

Lol, weed from Boots. Reputable outlets or not, canabis is still harmful. Not as harmful as tobacco? Maybe. But this means we should restrict tobacco, not condemn another few generations to an early death and a life marred by the effects of canabis (which do exist).

6. Bring back national service. (would also help reduce crime by getting people off the streets).

What this country needs is more people staying in school and going into higher education, not learning how to kill people.

7. Lock up parents who show no concern for their children, and let them bunk off school and cause trouble etc

Parents who let their child stay out late are still better for that child then countless foster families and care homes.

8. Make people recycle more of their rubbish and charge higher council taxes for those who 'can't be bothered'.

"Making people" doesn't work, you've got to change the culture and ways of thinking. Threats aren't useful.

9. Spend at least half of the road tax revenue on the roads. There are better quality dirt roads in the Outback than surfaced roads in the UK.


I don't know what part of the UK you're living in but it isn't like that in most places. Do you know how much road tax is annually for the nation? Do you know how much the government spends on roads? Until you do, don't guess and say "oh half of the road tax sounds like a nice figure".

10. Introduce 'Chain Gangs' like in the US and get the criminals out onto the streets to clean up graffiti/sweep rubbish etc, and suffer the humiliation of being seen by doing it. (another way to reduce re-offenders).

Do they work? You're guessing they do, but I'm pretty certain the US has a higher crime rate than here.

11. Stop giving Billions of £'s to the sponges in the EU/rest of the world, and spend it sorting out our own country first.


Do you know where that money goes? The "billions" to the EU isn't wasted and generally comes back to us indirectly. Aid to the rest of the world is aid. The British Empire caused countless problems throughout the world and Britain should do something about it, even if its just pouring money into those areas.

It amazes me how many morons there actually are. I see that G-KIRAN hasn't responded to my last post and Leezy-Jet probably won't respond to this. Maybe if you THINK about ideas logically in the future. Such declaration of ideas is dangerous.

And Climbout, thanks for the comments. I really appreciate it Smile


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10688 times:

Why do so many britts wish to join NAFTA and at the same time pull out of ties with the EU (economically speaking)?

First, to me it seems illogical to want to join a free trade area to increase trade and at the same time sever the ties with the European area where Britain (as far as I know), trades a lot with, and therefore decrease trade. Then, and I hate to say it like this, NAFTA is the North American Free Trade blah, blah... we know where Britain is on the map, so it's kind of silly to wish to join a block from another continent.

Unless of course the US, CAN and MEX decide to change the nature of the area in which case it wouldn't be a problem for Britain, Chile, Uruguay and other states (like the caribbean states) to join.





My internet was not shut down, the internet has shut me down
25 Post contains images G-KIRAN : All monetary figures in my starting post are in US$ since i dont have the pounds sign on my keyboard.Just divide by 1.6 to get the amount in pounds. 7
26 G-KIRAN : Sorry about the bold writing at the end,I was typing rather fast because I want to go to sleep since its 3 in the morning over here.Hoefully tocan dis
27 Mcdougald : A few things to keep in mind, folks. Presidents and prime ministers aren't gods. No one in a democracy is so powerful that their plans can't be foiled
28 777236ER : Ok I can't be arsed writing lots and lots, so I'll focus on two key issues. 1. stopping the dole (benefits, for those who don't know) and 2. your crim
29 B747forlife : Alright, just to respond to some people: IMissPiedmont - I never said that they need to own a flag, if you would read what I wrote, you would see that
30 GKirk : Get rid of Tony Blair.... Get rid of John Prescott.... Get rid of the Royal Family Give all the money to me Make me President of the UK Change the cap
31 Post contains images Leezyjet : 777236er, Bet your @$$ I will reply, not in any order but here goes. 1st chain gangs do work, I watched a documentary on Discovery a few weeks ago, an
32 Post contains images Hartsfieldboy : My response to all the suggestions (as if you care ): I'm glad none of us are in charge!
33 777kicksass : 1) Ban trade unions - the firefighters in the UK are now taking the piss. 2) Legalise marijuana - great fun and it could be better controlled if legal
34 STT757 : USA: 1.) Spend more on passenger rail service (ie commuter, light rail, long distance, high speed corridors , Amtrak etc). 2.) Invest more in clean te
35 Cx340 : FInd the 10 most intelligent and good hearted leaders, send them to old Tenochtitlan (Mexico City) through some time machine and start all over. . .se
36 Post contains images Leezyjet : 777236er, Hey Bigmouth, where are you ??. Cat got your tongue ??.
37 Yvr74 : To the individual who wrote about getting more involved with Canada and eventually inviting them to join the United States, rest assured that the vast
38 Alpha 1 : Alpha 1 - If a person has no loyalty, then that's fine, they can leave the country. But, as I said before, and in my original post, if you are using a
39 IMissPiedmont : 747forlife, "IMissPiedmont - I never said that they need to own a flag, if you would read what I wrote, you would see that I said it should be mandato
40 174thfwff : Completely refurbish our welfare system, health care system, immigration system. UP THE PAY FOR FIREFIGHTERS, EMS, MILITARY, AND COPS! 174thfwff
41 B747forlife : I'm back, but this time I'm in computers at school, so I'll try not to be long... Yvr74 - Fine, then when I ask, they'll say no, and everything will b
42 Rai : Anyway, I saw a link to an article on this site that said that if Quebec were to leave Canada, then most of the other provinces would petition to join
43 Prebennorholm : What Would You Do To Improve Your Country? Nothing. It's OK as it is.
44 777236ER : Leezyjet, unfortunatly I do actually have a job. The internet isn't my life, so apologies if I don't reply within seconds. 1st chain gangs do work, I
45 B747forlife : Rai - Aight, maybe I was mistaken when I saw the article. That still doesn't mean that in the future the two countries couldn't be one. Perhaps now it
46 Mcdougald : B747forlife wrote: "I saw a link to an article on this site that said that if Quebec were to leave Canada, then most of the other provinces would peti
47 Flight152 : 777236ER(on increased health expenditure):30% GDP on health and education? The government doesn't ACTUALLY get GDP you know, it gets taxes. 30% GDP is
48 B747forlife : Mcdougald - I actually never really thought of the cost. You do have a good point. I never meant to force obedience, I believe that there is a fundame
49 Post contains images Leezyjet : Quote from 777236er :- "Do 26-35 year olds still call people "know it alls"? " Another quote from 777236er :- "Great, another moron know-it-all who's
50 777236ER : Let's get one thing straight, none of this is every going to happen in reality, so why are you getting so stressed over it, it's just one of those "Wh
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