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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 11
Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

This was just too funny not to post:


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User currently offlineLubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1870 times:


its actually illegal in my town to drive and yap..and there are signs saying so so you can't get out of it so easily  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

That's what you call truth in advertising!


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3841 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

Isn't it illegal in California now to drive while talking on the cell phone.

It is either illegal now or will become illegal.


Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Mmm..I don't think it's illegal yet..They are trying to pass this thing where you can only have handsfree or something like that.


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4170 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

In Dubai it's illegal to talk on the cell and drive at the same time. You can, however, use handsfree instead...

Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Actually that sign should read: "Some asshole On His Cellphone Creamed An Innocent Driver Trying To Get Home" I think that tells the story more.

Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineCMK10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

In the State of New York, it is ILLEGAL to talk on a cell phone while driving, yet on my two minute drive to school, I have to use both hands and a foot to count the number of law breakers. Now to nip the clever retort in the bud, yes I am retarded and yes I have to use my fingers and toes to count.
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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1816 times:

Brooklyn, Ohio (which has two of five Cleveland-area interstates running through it) was one of the first municipalities in the nation to ban cell-phone use while driving.

That's ALL cell phone use, regardless of whether you might be using a hands-free set.

If you are driving and you get a call or want to make a call, you are required by law to pull off to the side of the road before using your phone.


Up, up and away!
User currently offlineSaxman66 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1812 times:

Its not the talking that causes problems. Its the dialing. It's a Human Factors concept. Dialing and driving share the same resourses-- where as driving and talking do not share the same resourses.

Ride Amtrak!
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1811 times:

Cell Phones + Driving = Cool Accidents! Big grin

America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineIllini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

It's not the cell phones; they are just the latest whipping boy for our popular culture. It is, plain and simple, inattentive drivers. People have been doing this for years; how many times have you been in rush hour traffic and looked over and seen some bimbo in a Lexus using her rearview mirror to put on her makeup while whizzing by at 80 mph, or some idiot trying to shave?

What we need aren't anti-cellphone laws; those are just the current popular bandwagon politicians are using to make it look like they're doing something. I've been using a cellphone in a car since I started driving, and have never had a problem. It's called judgement and proper division of attention. Too many people don't know when to drop the phone and drive, or divert their attentional resources from the road to their conversation.

How is talking on a cellphone differant from trying to eat a Big Mac or grab a CD out of the back seat, or quiet screaching children? I don't know; maybe since I'm young and have always been exposed to cellphones and cars it's easier, I don't have to adapt. Or maybe it has something to do with my flight experience, strict training on division of attention and operating vehicals; when to talk versus when to fly (drive).

Personally, I wouldn't mind stricter liscensing for drivers in this country. Make the road test more than back out, drive around the block, and park back in the spot, there you go son, now you can drive anything under 20,000 lbs. Restricted liscensing maybe; we have it allready; you need a special liscense for a motorcycle, or a 5th wheel trailer, or a large truck. Why not make it:

Passenger cars
Sports cars (>300 hp & 2 seats or fewer)
Light trucks (mini sport-utes, minivans, Rangers, S-10's ect)
Medium-duty trucks (Most pickup trucks and SUV's)
Heavy duty trucks (F-350's to whatever requires a CDL)

Extra ratings for towing trailers and using cellular phones too.

And, just plain better driver training; require people to spend an hour out on a skid pad to learn how the vehical behaves near it's traction limit and on slippery surfaces. I was lucky; I had access to a small airport when I was a teenager, and often times could go out blasting around the taxiways before I had to plow, learning how my car handled with hardly any traction, and what those limits were. Have people realize what happens when their SUV has a blowout at 75 mph (Car and Driver did a study with Ford Explorers when they were having that tread seperation problem. You know what happens in a blowout at speed in those things? Nothing- they keep going in a straight line, with a slight pull to one side. Aggressive braking coupled with frantic steering inputs, however, resulted in much differant, but STILL benign handling. You had to WORK at it to get one to flip)

Now that THAT long winded rant is done with...

Cell phones + inattentive drivers + poor judgement + bad luck = accident
and the ONLY one of those that will prevent the accident if it were removed is bad luck. The next biggest factor is the inattentive driver, followed by poor judgement, then would come a host of other things, and way down that list are cell phone. Just look at the statistics- there has not been a MAJOR rise in motor vehical accident rates in the past 2 years, when cell phone usage has skyrocketed. While cell phones have been a factor in more accidents; it may just as well be that there are MORE CELL PHONES out there, therefore more of them were in use at the time of the accident. If cell phones were CAUSING more accidents, we would see accident rates SKYROCKET in the past 5 years, when they have done anything but the sort:

In New York State (the first relevant hit I got from a google search, and probibly a good representative with major urban AND rural areas http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/mvacc2000.htm ) the Fatal and Injury Accident rate in 1991 was 177.5/100 million vehical miles. In 1995 it was 165.6, and in 2000 was 151.2. This is a rise over the previous 2 years, in 1999 it reached a low of 145.6, however, note the FaI accident rate per 10,000 POPULATION continuted down in that year, from 101.2 in '99 to 100.2 in 2000.

- Mike

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User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

just a correction: in NY you can use a cell phone while driving so long as you use a hands-free unit.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7561 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

I agree in that it's mainly inattentive driver.

Now, here's my useless contribution...
Here's a way to dial and drive at the same time (but don't do it where it's illegal to do so...)... hold your cellphone and the hand you're dialling, on the top of the steering wheel. That way, your vision is forward looking. Look at the road, and only look at the cellphone when there's enough safety margin to the vehicle in front, and don't do it crossing/approaching junctions... This may take a long time to dial, but it's a lot better than a quick accident. If the call is urgent, just pull to the side ! It's much quicker that way, and safer too.

Effective division of attention is the key. Driving while talking on the phone is a different matter though... I just slow down when I talk on the phone. And doing it on a manual with constant gear changes require some thinking ahead in the driving...

Frankly, a lot of drivers are dangerous enough without doing anything else... So, I appreciate (though don't like) the anti cellphone while driving laws...

I was driving in Sydney one day, when a woman was talking on the cellphone on a junction, making a right turn, into my lane because she was talking and not realising that it was a dual carriageway. The police just happened to be in the car next door... and they were laughing while chasing her...

If you cant pay attention, don't drive... simple.


When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

VERY large problem here in Finland, as our cell phone percentage is one of the highest, if not the highest, in the world. Luckily, it's becoming illegal to talk without a hands-free as of Jan 1st.


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Cell Phones + Driving = Cool Accidents!

That is so not funny.

More like

Cell Phones + Driving = Horrible, and needless Accidents!

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