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The Finalist Designs For The WTC  
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

After the first group of WTC designs were derided as boring and overstuffed with office space, the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation held a second round of proposals. Some of the nine new proposals from 7 design teams are shown below:

A proposal by Richard Meier & Partners Architects, Eisenman Architects, Gwathmey Siegel & Associates and Steven Holl Architects:


Studio Daniel Libeskind:


United Architechts


Foster and Partners:


TNNH

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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Geez

I have to say that number one looks best by far. The second looks too abstract, and the third one looks too unstable IMHO.


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5478 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

I don't particularly like any of them by any means, if I had to chose one though, It would probably be Norman Foster's design.

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2200 times:

no.1 looks like the potato waffles I am eating.

no.2 looks like the phantom zone off Superman/girl.

no.3.......

no.4 looks way way way too big.

etc.

ugly, crap designs.

ugh.


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2195 times:

This isn't for real is it? They're all so ugly  Sad What happened to simple architecture? They all look like toddler playing blocks gone wrong.


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2189 times:

Number 1 looks like Connect 4
Number 2 looks like Superman's ice home
Number 3 is just wrong
Number 4 looks like the legs of a giant man.

Um no. No better architects out there? Simple = good, guys.


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2184 times:

The Times went off today about how every champion of 'contemporary architecture' was angling to do this design. The said it could be the biggest 'contemporary' design since the UN Building.

Considering the UN Building is atrocious, that's not saying much.


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2180 times:

Theres more guys...

Peterson/Littenberg Architecture and Urban Design LLP:


the architectural firm THINK:


Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (includes a train station)


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I like em! I like them a lot. I think they are infused with creativity, beauty, and courage. Beautiful, breathtaking designs. NYC has plenty of "simple" buildings. The WTC should be the city's standout, over-the-top architechtural masterpiece. The first round designs from SOM were "simple" and people hated them. I like these a lot.

TNNH


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2179 times:

I like the UN Building! It is a classy design from a different era.

tnnh


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2178 times:

I think they are infused with creativity, beauty, and courage

How can you infuse something with courage? It's still just a building.


User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2770 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2164 times:

There is only ONE solution which would restore New York's unique skyline: to rebuild the Twin Towers as they were, but with today's technological means.



In the months after the tragedy, it was written in the newspapers that the office spaces were too important in the former WTC; it was also said that the new buikdings wouldn't be as high as the Twin Towers.

But all these concerns have obviously disappeard: the newest designs are for even higher skyscrapers and offer at least as many office areas as the previous center.
In this case, I really feel that the towers should be rebuilt just as they were; for 3 decades they had given to New York its unique, breathtaking and distinctive skyline. They were among the world's most beautiful buildings, and a strong illustration of the city's dynamism.

All the final designs presented are terribly disappointing, some of them are even horrible and would simply disfigure Manhattan.

Many destroyed historic buildings have been re-built throughout history; the example of post-WW2 Europe should inspire the city of New York: cathedrals and entire cities have been rebuilt at the identical all over the continent (one example is the British Parliament).



I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)
User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2158 times:

-Richard Meier & Partners Architects: Looks like a giant #. No way.

-Studio Daniel Libeskind: looks like they never cleaned up Ground Zero

-United Architechts: Salvador Dali could come up with something more realistic

-Foster and Partners: striking, modern, gives me the same sense of awe from seeing the original towers. Merits further consideration

-Peterson/Littenberg Architecture and Urban Design LLP: too many different elements. Uninspired

-the architectural firm THINK: interesting concept, appears to be a memorial/sculpture rather than office space. Don't think it will work

-Skidmore, Owings & Merrill: interior looks very impressive. Could use better exterior shots, but from what we have, I say make the towers taller, and we might have something to really consider there









User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2151 times:

I really like the design of the THINK building, but where are the offices???

hmm...

There is only ONE solution which would restore New York's unique skyline: to rebuild the Twin Towers as they were, but with today's technological means.


I totally agree, I feel that would be the best solution but obviously all these architects want their names on the new WTC so they are making stupidly rediculous new designs which are way to radical to ever be considered..... surely?



User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

I like the Peterson/Littenburg Architecture, it to me is the best of the proposals. It seems to be the least oddball looking of the proposals. It looks like it fits the site the best, and would not look like something designed by an inmate in an asylum or designed by a kid playing with Legos or an Erector set. The Peterson/Littenburg design blends modern designs and materials with design cues from Art Deco, to Bauhaus, to Frank Lloyd Wright. This proposal is probably the most conservative of the design proposals, and that is probably what will make it stand out in a field of outlandish designs.

User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 200 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

None of those really capture the emotion I'm looking for.

I'm still partial to:



User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16694 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

I like Lord Foster's buildings, THINK's "sky park", and Skidmore, Owings and Merrils transit center.


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User currently offline777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

When I saw the pictures of those designs I thought they'd been taken off theonion.com or something.

 Nuts


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

I think we should build them exactly like they were but with 3 extra floors in each tower to symbolize the 3 thousand people who lost their lives that day.

Those designs are crap! They wouldn't be nearly as cool as the original World Trade Center.

I think that if you take my proposal it would really show that we can survive, instead of building some crap in the place where something very cool once stood.



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

777236..:
read all these postings over again - and you might find out why I termed the designs "courageous". It should be pretty clear if you think about it for a little bit.  Big grin

tnnh


User currently offlineDasa From East Timor, joined Aug 2001, 760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

I like these new designs, they are bold and are very different to the regular NY skyline.

-Dasa


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

I like the THINK design. Looks like a ghost. But what will be inside?


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User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

Do these designers realize they're not building a space ship?


"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
User currently offlineZauberfloete From Austria, joined Nov 2000, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Fosters Design is brilliant, I love it.
Please build that one...


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13048 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

A report, also about Norman Foster;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,862644,00.html

And the paper's design/architecture correspondent;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,862641,00.html


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Not to put too fine a point on it, but those designs are as abominable as the original 6 that the PA put out earlier this year. The only difference is that they are bigger. But still, just as vapid.

I agree with the above consensus. The one sole, entirely all-or-nothing acceptable idea is to replicate the original Twins-the only difference being that they are 1) one or more stories higher and 2) offset from the original "footprints" (so that the whiners will have their crying ground).

If the designs that were unveiled yesterday are the last, best, and final choices we are going to get, and I have to make a choice, I would go with (even though my toes curl as I say this) Foster and Partners.



Of course that's the beauty of this world and the variety of tastes: no matter what you conjure up, be it a sphere, a rectangle, a trapezoid, or something resembling a crashed alien spacecraft, someone somewhere is going to love it.


25 Twaneedsnohelp : interesting report in the nytimes today by charles bagli, the real estate development writer (not the architechtural one). bagli basically said none o
26 Matt D : nothing will be built until the new york economy demands this 6 to 11 million sq feet office space That's an interesting statement. But once again, wh
27 SSTjumbo : I'm still looking for two towers that resemble the old twins but bear closer resemblance to the art-deco designs on top of the Empire State Building a
28 Post contains images NoUFO : Actually, I like Libeskind's proposal. Granted, the colors on the picture are somewhat odd but imagine this building in reality. It could really be in
29 Noise : Foster's design is growing on me. It's the twin towers all over again but with a new, revolutionary desgin. The other look pretty ugly with the except
30 Stretch 8 : I vote for the THINK proposal. Who the heck would want to work in two new 110 story towers?
31 BlatantEcho : the Sky Park idea is absolutely wonderful I like the concept and the glass, the green and the streets. perfect
32 Greg : I think it should be retro. The futuristic crap is just that---crap.
33 ScottysAir : I think that will be good for rebuilding new WTC after 9/11 by the terrorist attacks was did ever got crashes by two commerical airplanes. I will like
34 Twaneedsnohelp : heard a comentator today who said he thinks these architechts simply created these designs with no intention to ever be built on the site, but all the
35 Strickerje : I guess I'm in the minority here - I don't care for THINK's first proposal; it looks to not have much of an interior. It needs to be functional as wel
36 Post contains images TWAL1011 : Well, for once I'm in complete agreement with Greg. The futuristic stuff is total crap.
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