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Ship Hits Channel Wreck - Again!  
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1015 times:

Here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2620957.stm

Dearie, dearie me! Big grin


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
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Can someoe explain to me how it's possible to 'collide' with a Oil tanker the size of a 10-storey building in the vast open spaces of the English channel?  Confused



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

Quite easily: That's Murphy's Law. At the beginning of the 20th century there were only 2 motorcars in the whole state of Alabama...they collided!


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User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

The reason they hit it was probably because there was no one on the bridge and the ship was on autopilot. If there was someone, I expect he was unqualified and was desperately searching for someone to get them out of trouble. It was well signposted after all and one of the buoys even alerts the ship's radar so no real excuse.

Probably all down to cutting costs and using cheap labour.


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 994 times:

What kind of cars was the Tricolor carrying? Lemme guess...3,000 new Mercedes sedans!?

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 990 times:

Mainly BMW's, Volvos and Saabs.

Bearing in mind the typical profile of the owners of these types of car (in the UK, anyway) it is hard to get too upset about them losing their pride and joy in the English Channel! Big grin



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 992 times:

...BMW, Mercedes and Volvos, if I remember correctly!!



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User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Actually I did a Google search, the ship carried 2900 BMWs, Volvos & Saabs....the big financial tragedy is they cheaped out on the insurance policy and each car was only covered to $24,000 US! ...far short of their actual value!....

It looks like they're all piled on top of one another now. Ooops!


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 978 times:

Actually, Heavymetal, that's raises an interesting question. They might have been under-insured versus their sale value, but they may have been insured for the cost of replacement - i.e. what it costs them to build. Have you just stumbled on the profit margin per car...?

Either way, don't we all feel really sorry for those modest people at BMW?  Big grin



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User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 977 times:

How many times has this ship been run into to date? 2, 3 times?

Talk about major lamers....  Insane


-Clovis


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13230 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 967 times:

A member of the UK coastguard interviewed should take up acting, he did so well hiding his exasperation!
The wreck is surrounded by buoys, one a transmitter, a French Navy patrol boat hailed the latest vessel and the coastguard transmits warnings at least twice an hour.
Funny how nearly every ship that has an accident is a 'flag of convenience' one, with crews picked for cheapness.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Would it be so hard to erect a beacon on top of the sunken Tricolore??? Seems like a pretty simple solution to me...

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 917 times:

EGGD,

That's the point! The French have put about half a dozen buoys around the wreck, including a radar transponder beacon. Automated warnings are sent out every couple of minutes on the marine version of ATIS (whatever that is called). Not to mention all the publicity that the Tricolor's sinking caused only 3 weeks ago. Clearly, the crew of the Turkish ship was incredibly stupid and ignorant, and should have their licenses revoked.

Charles


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Can someoe explain to me how it's possible to 'collide' with a Oil tanker the size of a 10-storey building in the vast open spaces of the English channel?

You should rephrase that. The oil tanker hit the sunken TriColor, which is resting on its side, and in low tide, is quite visible. But still, you're point is true...how the hell to you hit a big orange flat thing in a vast blue sea!? Especially with all the beacons and warnings.

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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13230 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 899 times:

While the collisions are inexcusable, the channel is not so vast, not much more than 20 miles wide at one point? It's also the busiest shipping lane in the world.

User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 887 times:

Nevertheless...you still have 20 miles to play with. And with beacons and such, indeed, the collisions are inexcusable. I also noticed your comment on "Flag of Convenience" ships, and I have to agree with you on that. We need to prevent operators of ships to circumvent laws in such manners.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 881 times:

I bet, with the channel being so busy that many ships try and take a 'short cut' by taking a direct path towards the sunken ship, but as they are stupidly french end up hitting it  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 875 times:

Not excusing anyone, but despite 20 miles of open space, they still have specific shipping lanes they have to follow, no? Its not like they can use any of the 20 miles. Granted they missed all of the warnings, beacons, etc, etc. and should be held accountable, but it not as much of a coincidence as it sounds....or am I wrong?


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