Saintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 876 times:
The reason they hit it was probably because there was no one on the bridge and the ship was on autopilot. If there was someone, I expect he was unqualified and was desperately searching for someone to get them out of trouble. It was well signposted after all and one of the buoys even alerts the ship's radar so no real excuse.
Probably all down to cutting costs and using cheap labour.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 852 times:
Actually I did a Google search, the ship carried 2900 BMWs, Volvos & Saabs....the big financial tragedy is they cheaped out on the insurance policy and each car was only covered to $24,000 US! ...far short of their actual value!....
It looks like they're all piled on top of one another now. Ooops!
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54 Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 848 times:
Actually, Heavymetal, that's raises an interesting question. They might have been under-insured versus their sale value, but they may have been insured for the cost of replacement - i.e. what it costs them to build. Have you just stumbled on the profit margin per car...?
Either way, don't we all feel really sorry for those modest people at BMW?
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12968 posts, RR: 79 Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 837 times:
A member of the UK coastguard interviewed should take up acting, he did so well hiding his exasperation!
The wreck is surrounded by buoys, one a transmitter, a French Navy patrol boat hailed the latest vessel and the coastguard transmits warnings at least twice an hour.
Funny how nearly every ship that has an accident is a 'flag of convenience' one, with crews picked for cheapness.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 787 times:
That's the point! The French have put about half a dozen buoys around the wreck, including a radar transponder beacon. Automated warnings are sent out every couple of minutes on the marine version of ATIS (whatever that is called). Not to mention all the publicity that the Tricolor's sinking caused only 3 weeks ago. Clearly, the crew of the Turkish ship was incredibly stupid and ignorant, and should have their licenses revoked.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 780 times:
Can someoe explain to me how it's possible to 'collide' with a Oil tanker the size of a 10-storey building in the vast open spaces of the English channel?
You should rephrase that. The oil tanker hit the sunken TriColor, which is resting on its side, and in low tide, is quite visible. But still, you're point is true...how the hell to you hit a big orange flat thing in a vast blue sea!? Especially with all the beacons and warnings.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 757 times:
Nevertheless...you still have 20 miles to play with. And with beacons and such, indeed, the collisions are inexcusable. I also noticed your comment on "Flag of Convenience" ships, and I have to agree with you on that. We need to prevent operators of ships to circumvent laws in such manners.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 745 times:
Not excusing anyone, but despite 20 miles of open space, they still have specific shipping lanes they have to follow, no? Its not like they can use any of the 20 miles. Granted they missed all of the warnings, beacons, etc, etc. and should be held accountable, but it not as much of a coincidence as it sounds....or am I wrong?