Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11957 posts, RR: 43 Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 925 times:
So, what are your thoughts on the newest addition to the line of Bond films? I know it hasn't been shown everywhere yet, but for those who've seen it, what did you think?
Has Ian Flemings character become dryer than a martini after they stopped basing the movies on the novels? Are the special effects and the funny lines enough? Is this perhaps one of the best Bond films ever?
opinions, opinions please.
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DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3928 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 878 times:
I think that Die Another Day was an OK movie, but what ruined it, and IMO, left a scar on the series, is the fact that Bond became a POW. Not just for 20 minutes, or a day or two, but for 14 months! That part sucked & I wonder if Fleming (while he didn't write the more recent books) ever intended it to be that way, or if he was "spinning in his grave" after that was shown. I kinda think him being locked up took away from the concept that Bond is/was untouchable & might take away from the fun of future movies...
The special effects are OK, and the one-liners are still going strong.
Notar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 858 times:
I think it was an interesting leap from the other movies. I loved most of the plotline, the action, the humor, and the cars and that Antonov jet! I got tickets to the prescreening, so that was nice. Plus Hally Berry was so hot I'm surprised when she got out of the water she wasn't steaming. However, like DeltaRules mentioned, the POW thing did derail the feeling to the rest of the movie.
Illini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 845 times:
Didn't care for it at all. Give me From Russia With Love, or Doctor No anyday over that. Bond is supposed to be a Secret Agent right? Not some special forces commando. I think they took it just too far; the orgininal movies had characters, and plot, and dialog. This one seemed that the writers looked at the plot as a neccisary device to get from one over the top special effect sequence or product placement to the next.
Oh, and that whole Bond being a POW thing.
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PH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 841 times:
What a crap movie was that. One of bond new toys was an invisible car! I mean keep it a little serious please. And a ferrari which falls off an airplane at 3 km height and doesn't have a scratch on it. And so on. I would say this is the worst bond movie I have ever seen. Nothing is left from the original bond-style. This could be just another actionmovie
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 833 times:
Here are some comments I made in previous threads:
This was one of the best Bonds ever. It´s in the top three along with Goldfinger and Licence to Kill.
Its main strong points:
- a coherent simple story, yet a lot at stake
- nice locations (especially the ice hotel, but Los Órganos was cool too)
- finally a good villain: a complete madman aspiring for control of the world; bad to the bone unlike e.g. 006 (Goldeneye) or Renard (TWINE) who were in a way victims themselves
- In a move away from the superficial generic superhero, Bond is portrayed as a human being with nuances, facets and, yes, weeknesses
- hilarious one-liners, yet not so much in your face but subtle
- creativity: fencing, surfboards, hovercrafts, Moneypenny in the end
- gadgets are state of the art (or more), and not the 150th watch or 232nd wonder weapon
- as a longtime fan, I loved all the quotes from past movies: Goldfinger, FRWL, YOLT, DAF, LTK + Roger Moore´s daughter starring - that´s what I recognised so far
- the car: it had a role (unlike the BMW in Goldeneye, who featured just for product placement reasons) and it was finally appropriate (unlike the BMW in TND which is mass market, every idiot here in Germany drives one) for a man of distinction like 007.
- Halle Berry: more than a simple sidekick introduced to look good and appeal to black audiences. Her acting as a blunt American agent contrasts very nicely with and hence underscores the Briton´s suave and completely different approach to his work.
- The whole movie´s style, including especially Madonna´s theme song, is very modern, even by today´s standards. It´s downright avantgarde; not everyone may like it, but that´s a venerable tradition in the 007 series which sees a comeback after the past three blunders.
- the twists and turns which make it all quite unpredictable and fun to guess what´s really happening
All in all, finally a James Bond movie which deserves that title - after 13 years, James Bond HAS returned.
Incidentally, a few days ago I thought about my personal ranking of 007 movies. Here it is, if anyone cares:
2. Licence To Kill
3. Die Another Day
4. The Living Daylights
6. On Her Majesty´s Secret Service
7. You Only Live Twice
8. From Russia With Love
9. The Spy Who Loved Me
10. For Your Eyes Only
12. A View To A Kill
13. Live And Let Die
14. Dr. No
15. The Man With The Golden Gun
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. The World Is Not Enough
20. Diamonds Are Forever
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 787 times:
Die Another Day was the worst Bond movie Ive ever seen...I hated it (despite the aviation scenes lol)...way too sci-fi for me (the invisible car, the special medical technology and the electric suit were way too much)...plus the An-124 with the glazed nose...bad...not to mention that the plot is ironic given the current situation on the Korean Peninsula...
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