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User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

Big news in the press this weekend. He was not named on Saturday but is in all the papers this morning. Pete Townsend's name has been passed to police following information supplied by the FBI.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2650519.stm

Well he has catagorically denied the accusations although admits looking at at paedophile porn site for research. He's making a big thing about it so I assume that he is innocent otherwise he would keep quiet. If you mouth off and are then found quilty then you will suffer more. I remember Gary Glitter not saying a word after he was accused.

I hope he is innocent but should the accusations prove true then I hope he is made to suffer like the poor children involved are.

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Pete Townsend has always been one of my favorite artists, and he has frequently written songs or prose about things that are far too painful or complex for most other "talents" to even consider attempting. I tend to believe him that he was simply doing research, and not "getting his jollies" by looking at such sites.

That said, I think it was misguided of him to actually pay for the service. Every person who pays simply promotes this and other disgusting activities.

On a related subject, I recently received a spam mail which, for the first time I ever saw, advertised underage porn. I would have expected those sites to be passed on by word of mouth, not advertised like more mainstream porn sites.

I wanted to send this e-mail onwards to the FBI and other law enforcement authorities, but had difficulty doing it. All such sites that I found ask you to fill out on-line forms, and don't give you an opportunity to simply forward an e-mail (which contains all sorts of hidden information that could be useful in tracking the source), with a simple comment like "I got this and thought you might want to check it out." That kind of reporting would take all of 30 seconds. After the on-line form interface crashed a couple of times, I just gave up. A small victory for the paedophiles, I'm afraid.

Charles


User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1132 times:

"Joey ever seen a grown man naked?"


Go big or go home
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

When the stuff about 'a famous British rock star being investigated by the police for accessing child porn sites' blew up, a few names came to mind, Townshend was not one of them.
Still, you cannot 'know' these people, not that I was surprised by Gary Glitter, and even less so by Jonathan King's convictions.
Townshend apparently told a lawyer friend what he was doing, but while I hope his explanation is true, it was a monumentally stupid thing to do.
No doubt his PC will be checked, if there is just that one time accessing the site, he should be in the clear.
His distress at the abuse of children has featured in his work for a very long time, even back to 'Tommy' in 1969.
He did the right thing going public with his explanation, if it is true, as his name would have emerged soon enough anyway, with or without the police bringing charges.





User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

Whilst there is no way of any of us knowing for sure about the truth of the allegations, Townshend's history on this matter does suggest this is not exactly an open and shut case. Anyone who has visited his website over the years will have seen numerous diary entries and articles (taken down now for legal reasons) railing at the easy availability of child pornography on the internet, and the ease with which it can be accessed. Indeed, he has mentioned on numerous occasions prior to yesterday's news how he has been in contact with the police about how these sites can be removed and the legal difficulties attached to it when these sites are based in countries without sufficient legal structures to close them down. He has also offered financial backing to a number of charities dedicated to seeking out and prosecuting those who both access and put up such websites.

I must confess to being an avid Who and Townshend fan, and when I heard the news I was not that surprised - not because I think it likely he is a paedophile, but because checking out a site for the purposes of research sounds like just the sort of damn stupid thing that he'd do when he is on a crusade about something.

No, his past history on this subject is not that of one who is a secret paedophile, but one who loathes it to the degree that he'll try to do something about it without thinking of the consequences. Reading the papers over the last two days, it seems that rightly or wrongly, the press have formed an opinion that he isn't guilty of paedophilia, but he is guilty of mind-blowing naiivety and stupidity - not for the first time either, which is real contradiction in a highly intelligent man.

My immediate reaction was "You prat", not "you pervert". I hope I'm right, and his quick public statement tends to re-inforce that.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6332 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Sorry but some topics, this one in fact, are not joking matters. Enough said.


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

Who's joking?
Even if Townshend's motives were altruistic, (and I think they were), he could still be convicted.
While no one doubts child abuse is a very serious problem, there has been a history of tabloid press hysteria about it, inciting mobs of basically stupid people to attack those they thought were child molesters, innocent people, mis-identified by a vile tabloid called the News Of The World, were driven out of their homes.
Also a pediatrician was driven from her home, (your average mob are truly thick people).
One ringleader of of these mobs was questioned by Police, as while she was marching the streets with illiterate banners and giving interviews, her 2 year old child (one of many, all with different fathers) was found wandering naked by a main road.
So Townshend may also have to face attacks by these sort of people, even if he's not charged.



User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

I'm not sure about that GDB. Most people I've spoken to appear to have formed the opinion (which could be changed by events) that Townshend has merely been unbelievably stupid, not evil. The mob mentality may not have a chance to take hold.

It is interesting that so many of his friends have come out saying that it is out of the question that he is a paedophile, and these people know him better than any of the public. The truth is that if Townshend's motives were less than pure, then you really can trust no-one. He's spent so long attacking internet paedophilia that he must be the best actor in history if he isn't innocent.

More than that, one of the police officers with whom he's been working on anti-child porn campaigns has already come out as a character witness to all intents and purposes. He's also freely offered up his computer to the police for checking, and has agreed for them to come and search his house - which is happening right now.

I don't know. Part of me may be engaging in wishful thinking, but everything he's said and done so far suggests he's merely been misguided, and those who run the campaigns seem to have the same opinion, strongly criticising him for idiocy but hinting that they do not believe him guilty of anything worse. Apparently, he was in touch with the police prior to logging on to the sites in question (although he didn't tell them what he was going to do) and also asked a lawyer friend for advice about it some months ago. None of this is the behaviour of a guilty man, unless he's acquired a talent for deviousness which has been anything but apparent over the last forty years.

He may still be charged. But unless the police find evidence of rather more wrongdoing than we know about so far, I somewhat doubt it. A caution may be a possibility.

And IMissPiedmont, why do you think this is a joke? It is very, very serious. This story is not some sick wind-up.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1021 times:

I hope he's not convicted too, I don't think he's guilty, but the law is clear on accessing these sorts of sites, whatever the reason.
Seeing the human garbage the News Of The World brought on to the streets in 2000, I'd be worried if I were Townshend, but he's smart enough to know that.
If only his common-sense matched his intelligence, but he's always been a driven, intense, person, which his art reflects so well.



User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1013 times:

We'll see. If he is guilty, it will have taken stupidity to an even higher level by going so public about it.

The only thing is, that he contacted the police about it back in October. If he isn't on the side of the angels he would have had loads of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence.

if, on the other hand, he is telling the truth (and everything about him and his history would suggest to the layman that he is) and the police only find what he has said, i.e. that he visited the site "three or four times" only going past the intro page once, and that he has all the back up documentation of his liaisons with the police to prove it, then it might actually prove rather difficult to get a conviction, even though what he has done is actually illegal. For example, if there is a parade of evidence confirming his campaigns against this practice, then juries have a habit of acquitting through sheer bloody mindedness. that is why I suspect a caution might be the outcome.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

Just heard on CNN. Pete Townsend has been Arrested by Scotland Yard, and charged with posessing and creating indecent material, with the intent to distribute.

Shit. I really hope this is a big mistake.

Charles


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2651871.stm

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