KAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 697 times:
Portland, eh? It's not too bad. Plenty to do, close the nature, kind of laid back, bad economy, not so great education system, high taxes, but overall not too bad. I moved here 8 years ago and never really left.
There is a lot to do, especially if you're into the outdoors and such. We're about 1.5 hours to the coast, same to Mt. Hood. We're right next to the Columbia River Gorge and all that it has to offer.
As for aviation, there's PDX (soon to be having international/intercontinental passenger service!) plus about a half dozen GA airports. There is Troutdale (30min away), Evergreen (across the river in Vancouver, WA), Hillsboro (45min) plus more further out.
Traffic has started to resemble Seattle, especially going West towards Beaverton (home to Intel & Nike). Jobs are available, but Oregon has the highest unemployment rate in the US (tied with WA, I think), so it isn't pretty on that regard. There's a lot of issues with taxes and finanaces on a state/county/city level and that impacts your paychecks even more. We've go high (relatively) income tax, but no sales tax.
Culture-wise, there's a lot too. Plays, art galleries, movies...the gamut.
But like BlatantEcho noted, it can be wet, dreary and cold. There's quite a bit online also to check out, see The Oregonian for a good starting place. And you can mail me if you want more detailed opinions/ideas.
is that a light at the end of the tunnel or just a train?
Chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1925 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 693 times:
Blatant, I was in Eugene two weeks ago, and traffic was horrible, not to mention the gigantic puddles all over the roads.
As for Portland, the summer it is great. The rain gets very old after a while, especially when there is the constant drizzle for weeks (last year we broke the all time rain record of 34 days straight with measurable precip.) The freeways are awful, come to think of it, this is the only state on the Oregon Trail where ruts actually exist on the freeways!
In all honesty, Oregon isn't too bad...The lack of sales tax is very nice for camera gear.
Stratofish From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1038 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 688 times:
I haved been to both as a visitor last September. I liked Portland better because this city has a special kind of spirit. Although Salem has a higher percentage of students which makes it a fun place too, but it´s more hick IMHO.
Mhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 681 times:
Thanks everyone for your input...
OR sounds pretty good overall...
Does the weather impact much on flight training?
I will be working on finishing my IFR in the near future.
Anyone moved there from SoCal or LA area? How do you like it compared to SoCal?? What about the cost of living, income and property taxes? I am hoping to save more money than I am currently able to (living in LA).
BTW, what is the reason for the high unemployment rate? Is it growing very fast population wise? I would hate to see it turn into another LA or Seattle.
BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1890 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 678 times:
Chrisair - dunno where you hit traffic. If you travel near downtown, Franklin Ave. @ 5pm when the hospital staff lets out, that is the really time there is every any real congestion. Well, also during DUCKS games
btw: I totally agree on the roads, this place is filled with rain all season, and the roads just pool it up, dunno who messed that one up, but it's awful.
I love this place though, love the lack of sales tax, and the cost of living is much less.
EX/ I was paying close to $2.00/gal in NorCal for gas, here it is $1.35 or so.
I drive less too, good public transportation, as you will find Portland has as well. So much green, so many trees. I love this place.
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 10724 posts, RR: 16 Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 674 times:
Mhsieh: You ask if anyone here moved from SoCal. I have lived in the Northwest most all my life. I moved here when I was six months old from Kansas. I always joke that I am the last 'original' Northwesterner in the Portland area Everyone I meet seems to be from somewhere in Cali.
After having lived in Seattle for two years, here are just a few reasons to move to the Portland area: Freeways are built better in Portland (more lanes), mass transit goes where you want it to go quicker and cheaper (see www.tri-met.org), and drivers are GENERALLY better. Cost of living is less, no sales tax in OR and cheap, self-serve gas in Vancouver.
One other airport is Pearson, directly on the flightpath for PDX.
Chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1925 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 665 times:
I disagree about the freeways in Portland. The freeways I've driven on in Seattle are three, four, or five lanes in each direction, just like Los Angeles. I have never seen a freeway in Portland over three lanes (I'm well aware of the stretch in the curves just outside south of Portland). Not to mention the freeways in Seattle are (generally) in better shape than Portland's. I think the ruts in the 205 and 5 are still from the old Oregon Trail days.
I moved from the San Jose area to Portland in 1998, and I think about 75% of the Portland area is from California, and the 'original' natives hate that. However, after leaving Portland yesterday where it was 40 degrees and foggy, and coming to Arizona, where it was 80 and sunny, I could never go back and live.