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Gay "Terror Attack" In Cape Town  
User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Police in Cape Town, South Africa are investigating a series of gruesome execution-style murders at a gay massage parlour.

At least 8 men were dead and 2 wounded on Monday.

Victims were all tied up and shot at close range, with throats got slit.

Leonard Ramatlakane, safety and security minister of Western Cape province, said he believed "organised crime was behind this."

Neighbours called police after hearing gunshots at the house about 4 a.m.

They also saw one of the injured men, with wounds on his head and neck, running out of the house to a nearby petrol station, according to the South Africa press agency.

Gay and Lesbian Equality Project in South Africa claims this incident as a "terror attack" targetting homosexuals. Recently, there were threats issued by various fringe groups that indicated an intention to perpetrate acts of violence against lesbian and gay people."

Neighbours said there had been an altercation at the house involving drug dealers, but police said they could not confirm that.

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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

Neighbours said there had been an altercation at the house involving drug dealers, but police said they could not confirm that.

That last sentence may be significant. The prostitution industry in the United States is often tied in with the drug scene, and I wouldn't imagine that things are any different in South Africa. In other words, this might have been a drug killing, not anti-gay violence.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineGregjet From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

I don't like gays anyway its a sin thats what they get

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

Gregjet

I see you want to be an airline pilot and that you hate gays.

Do us all a favour, and when you get that job (not with your attitude will you get one anyway, but I'll humour you), please be sure to let your colleagues know about this, specifically how you worded it here.

All I can say, is that I hope you like blue sauce steak!  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

Blue sauce steak? I've never heard of a beating described in that way before. Gee, I wonder if that could be considered a hate crime against a straight person? Nah, it'd be "justice."






Assuming that a blue sauce steak is a beating and not some queer term.


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

I steal don't like gay I stell want to be a pilot

Und yu stil carnt spel  Insane

if a gay every touch me in any way that makes me feel like i haVE to hurt them i will I will fuck them up or if you want to be childish i would beat the hell out of them.

Hmmm.....does anyone else want to take care of this SMIB for me?

Assuming that a blue sauce steak is a beating and not some queer term

No it isn't a "beating". It is nothing violent. You see most gay people would rather not have to resort to violence to deal with an arsehole with an attitude, but would rather resort to underhand tactics to screw the other party up.

Most cabin crew will know what a blue sauced steak is.




User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

OH! I see...I've usually thought of it as blue juice, but okay.

User currently onlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6005 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

I happen to know a couple of gay people, and I have to say that they are the most friendly, wicked & party-on people I have ever met Big grin - one of them is my mom's co-worker, and he's usually acting straight, but I have seen some of his friends, and they're the prototype of a generic gay person.

User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

Gregjet says:

"""I steal don't like gay I stell want to be a pilot and if a gay every touch me in any way that makes me feel like i haVE to hurt them i will I will fuck them up or if you want to be childish i would beat the hell out of them."""

And you wish to be a pilot? You can't even spell, what a total loser.

"""Aviatsiya are you gay u actin like i am taking about u if you are i hpoe u rot in hell bye"""

Obviously he doesn't realise there are a stack of gay members on a.net.


Scotty,

These people seem to creep out of the woodwork every few months, I can't really be moved to bother with someone so illiterate (there is a spell checker). Where's barcode to comment? LOL

mb








User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Gregjet,

As a Christian, I believe that homosexuality is a sin and will send a person to hell, but in NO way does anyone deserve to die like that. Please stop spouting off garbage.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

I agree with B757300.

User currently offlineWiLdmanVzla From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

those homophobics... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

*******


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Wouldn't it be great if admin would take the initiative and ban any user who expresses such hate and nastiness as Gregjet has?

Hope you guys are listening...


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Ilyushin96M

Why would admin care? We haven't called Hepkat a wanker, Mirrodie a moron, KROC an arsewipe, etc, etc. But it seems to be perfectly ok for others to spout off at others the way that a certain sad individual has on this thread.

Fair enough, they have deleted a particular post by Gregjet, but I bet my arse (you see Gregjet, I am a fag, and I am willing to bet my arse), that if what was written in that was directed at one of the mods the person responsible would have been deleted in an instant.

Back to the topic, I doubt it would have been a terror attack. Organised crime syndicates don't go around murdering gay people because they are gay (especially as the gay community would provide them with a lot of revenue), but more likely to have something to do with unpaid debts, or some type of business transaction (someone moving in on someone else's turf).



User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

I don't think that'd be a good idea, Ilyushin96M.

You know, I think Mx5_boy (just an example) expressed hatred for me and Christianity. Would you ban him, too?

There's already a system in place to take care of egregiously offensive posts, and he'll learn his lessons about offending people soon enough.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Who cares whether anyone is gay or not? As long as you leave others alone who are of a different persuasion all should be well.

Problem is that some gays have this urge to force themselves upon straight men (or women if they're lesbian) (just like some straight men have this urge to force themselves upon women). They give all gays a bad name with straight people (and we are still in a vast majority...).

It's just like religion indeed. As long as you respect other peoples' believes and don't try to force your believes upon them you can live together.

As to the subject at hand, it looks indeed more like a drugs related incident than some sort of anti-gay campaign. The latter would be far more effectively executed by taking just the offending parts of the bodies and leaving the victims alive to live with the consequences...



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

MD-90,

Why on earth would I respect a religion that attempts to tell me and my peers that we are going to hell, that would gladly have us removed from the earth and openly vilifies and discriminates against me?

And you agree with this:

"""I believe that homosexuality is a sin and will send a person to hell"""

How arrogant and self righteous?

I will rage against those who feel it necessary to bring a religious perspective into posts and use them against me. Personally I don't give a rats arse what brand of brainscrubbing you subscribe to, so long as you treat me equally I shall do the same. You have to remember to tone your arrogant christian ass down and respect that others DO NOT have to live by your book of lies in a democratic *free* country, so stop forcing your 2,000 year old views down peoples throats. Obviously you have none of your own.

Telling people they will go to hell because of who they are by nature is tantamount to biggest load of cobblers most people have ever heard. Gays and Lesbians are just as important as anyone else in society and should treated as equals, not as second class citizens as some of the more pious members here would like to do.

I would challenge any of you who beleive that *we* will go to hell to put it on a t-shirt or tell the respective *gay* the next time they suspect they will come across one that they *will go to hell*.

It would be interesting, particularly if you were flying.

I doubt any of you would have the guts to do it.

Hypocrites. Who are happy to vent their homophobia or zealotry on an anonymous website but would baulk at doing in the street.

mb


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

You know, I shouldn't have said that. I typed a long response, but then decided just to say that I agreed. I think it's pretty clear that God did not intend for us to be homosexuals, but as far as going to Hell, well Jesus' blood is just as valid for gays as it is for anyone else, such as myself.

You can be tempted to be gay, and think, "Well, this is just how I am, I'm going to have fun being gay," but it's different if you're homosexually tempted and you try to resist as opposed to embracing it. Of course, I know that I'm just wasting my time because you just think it's horrid that I personally plan on only having sex with my future wife (if that is God's will for my life). You just want to have fun, well it's all fun and games until you die and you're judged. But since you don't believe in that, I pray that one day you will find understanding.


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4493 times:

I can't believe some of the attitudes of the rednecks and bible thumpers here. Firstly someone says all gays will rot in hell and then another says that according to his religion, Christianity gays will goto hell. If anyone is going to hell it is the people who hold those views.

Well, if gays do go to hell, at least they will have a chance to 'redeem' themselves - what with all those priests down there  Big grin



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

You can be tempted to be gay, and think, "Well, this is just how I am, I'm going to have fun being gay," but it's different if you're homosexually tempted and you try to resist as opposed to embracing it.

And you know this from personal experience?

Of course, I know that I'm just wasting my time because you just think it's horrid that I personally plan on only having sex with my future wife (if that is God's will for my life).

No, I say more power to you. I am not going to condemn you for having a single partner for life. So why is it so hard for you to do the same for those gay men and women who only plan on having sex with one person?

You just want to have fun, well it's all fun and games until you die and you're judged. But since you don't believe in that, I pray that one day you will find understanding.

We all want to have fun, but your writings above seem to portray an opinion that gay men and women are sexually promiscuous, when in reality, we are no more promiscuous than straight men and women.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4480 times:

The irony in Gregjet's attitude is that he is black. I find it quite hypocritical that anyone of colour should be a bigot, as well. I wonder how Gregjet would feel if any one of us spouted off an opinion as nasty and horrid as his regarding an incident involving a black person or a group of blacks, saying they deserved whatever beatings/killings/discrimination involved because of their colour? He'd probably go into a fit of rage and foam at the mouth, demanding the blood of whomever said it.

User currently offlineGregjet From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4437 times:

First of all I just write what's on my mind that is that I do not like gays and it is a sin. I can prove that by quoting the bible Romans 1-24 "Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lust of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:"and then Aviatsiya come at me talking about blue sauce steak! So I feel threatened so I react. Then Ilyushin96M says "The irony in Gregjet's attitude is that he is black" I know many white people that feel the same way and also don't ever compare being Black to being gay to me that is one of the biggest forms of disrespect I have every encountered in my live. Because Gay people choose to be gay and black people don't. Also Mx5_boy calls me illiterate well as you can see I'm not. So if you gay go on hate what I say It is true. I don't care kick me off don't responds to me I just get another username.
I'm Out 1



User currently offlineGregjet From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4435 times:

Send me the T-shirt I wear all day I don't give a fuck

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4441 times:

I can prove that by quoting the bible

LOL! You can't prove anything with a book written thousands of years ago by humans.



User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4422 times:

LOL! You can't prove anything with a book written thousands of years ago by humans.

Christians believe they were inspired by God through the Holy Ghost.

Mx5_boy the only hypocrite around here is you. You don't want discrimination against gays (which is fine by me) yet you go around spewing hatred towards Christians. Christians are not less human than gays.



Proud to be an Assyrian!
25 Turbolet : Gregjet, you're one of those narrow-minded, prejudiced people who make the world such a great place for us gay and bisexual people. First of all, let
26 SunAir : First of all, I'd like to quote Desmond Tutu, former Archbishop of South Africa and really an amazing man who I've had the fortune of meeting: "We rej
27 Post contains images Ryanb741 : Sunair - I too have met Tutu - he handed me my degree certificate at my graduation at King's College London (he is an alumni of the university) and th
28 Yvr764 : I have held my tongue on these discussions of homosexuality since I joined a.net. It has been better for me not to spout off rhetoric and spew childis
29 Gregjet : Ok people Do not relate being black and being gay it is not the same and most gay people that i have spoken to say they choose to be gay. I'ts like yo
30 Mbmbos : YVR, you're a very good writer and rhetorician. Thank you for your insight. - MBM
31 Mx5_boy : Marco says: """Mx5_boy the only hypocrite around here is you. You don't want discrimination against gays (which is fine by me) yet you go around spewi
32 MD-90 : Yvr764, you are absolutely correct in many ways. I'm actually not a resident of Mississippi, I'm just going to school here, but Alabama is just the sa
33 Ilyushin96M : Gregjet, why don't you bleach your skin white, buy yourself some coloured contacts, dye your hair and try living as a white person? You don't seem to
34 Beefmoney : Im sick of this. Look, every single one of us deserves to go to hell. OK? Being gay doesnt give you a one way ticket to hell any more than telling a l
35 Post contains images Ryanb741 : Maybe all Christians should look at the example of the more moderate Church of England, where the idea of 'Hell' is redundant and there are openly gay
36 Turbolet : All this reminds me of the double discrimination I got from my friend Charles this morning as he was telling jokes. The first joke was anti-Maltese. F
37 Gregjet : I hope yall not tryin to change my mind or make me feel bad I'm doin this for fun pissin off gay people it's a big joke because I know whats right I'l
38 Mx5_boy : Gregjet, Why on earth would you want to piss off gay people? What has any gay person done to you for you to want to diss them? Or are you an immature
39 Turbolet : Those who condemn us the most are usually closeted cases who can't come to terms with their sexuality. Well said Mx5_boy! If someone hates gays a lot,
40 Post contains links Mx5_boy : Turbolet, The problem is that these people have had whatever brand of brainwashing on them that *gay* people are bad, that they cannot come to terms w
41 Turbolet : Exactly. But I'm kinda glad that I don't take philosophy: my friends' philosophy teacher told them that he thinks that gay people are freaks, just lik
42 Jcxp15 : OK. People aren't born "gay". They use that as an excuse as far as I am concerned. You're born with some kind of problem with eventually leads you to
43 Mx5_boy : Jcxp15 says: """Anyway, you might be a great person, but if you are gay, there is something wrong with you, maybe not necessarily your fault... Again
44 Turbolet : Aha Jcxp15, maybe you'd be exactly the kind of person who would enjoy talking to Fr Vince Pavia, the philosophy teacher I mentioned. He too seems to s
45 MD-90 : So, was there any follow up in the news about whether this really was a gay murder or a drug deal gone bad or something else? Or did the reporters jus
46 Saa737-244 : So, was there any follow up in the news about whether this really was a gay murder or a drug deal gone bad Police are now convinced it was a revenge k
47 Mattnrsa : Has anyone else noticed that Gregjet has not posted anything on this topic since it was pointed out that his intolerance of gays most likely implies h
48 MD-90 : More likely he just got bored of it.
49 Ual747 : Okay folks, The queer that "wants everyone to know he's queer" is gonna speak. Gregjet, Buddy, first of all, I DID NOT, and I repeat, DID NOT decide t
50 Ual747 : BTW, Did anyone ever think, (and Im going out on a limb here) that being gay was part of some greater picture? I mean, our Earth is being overpopulate
51 Ovelix : Never before has a 13-15 years old ignorant, uneducated moron, made a bunch of grown up people arguing with him. Come on guys, if this child happened
52 Post contains images Turbolet : UAL 747, I agree with your points 100% Your second post links up to something my friend was telling me the other day. He said that he has nothing what
53 Mx5_boy : Ovelix, The whole problem is *yes* this teenager is a moron, but why is he a moron? Why does he have these distasteful views? Why doesn't society teac
54 Ilyushin96M : Great post, Mx5_boy. Your thoughts are quite like my own. I can't tell you how many young people I've run across who are struggling with their sexuali
55 Mx5_boy : ILL96M, Thanks for the support mate. I try my best to support the guys on here who may have sexual identity problems, and let's face it there is alway
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