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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3205354842&category=13904

Ok this guy is selling printed photos of the crew members of Columbia from his computer (a Nasa photo btw) and selling them. Obviously he didn't take the photo or he probably would have used a more professional way of printing them. Is there a link on ebay where you can notify them of stuff like this?

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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

And he wants 20 bucks for it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy . I could print the photo myself (from internet) for much cheaper price if I wanted to, I can't imagine someone would buy the picture...

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

it's not illegal, but if NASA pursues it they could force eBay to either close the auction or force the man to pay NASA a royalty as the picture doesn't belong to him and its not his to sell.

Frankly, I think NASA has much larger things to deal with right now and if they are concerned about this guy, they aren't doing their job.

as for the auction, well it's free market capitalism. if someone thinks the seller is adding $20 worth of value to a free picture and wants it, then here you go.

Thats why eBay is quite possibly the coolest invention since sliced rye break.

TNNH


User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

Twaneedsnohelp, this is true, but I think it's something like with that guy who sold his soul on e-bay  Smile. E-bay did forbidden him to do any such deals in the future after all though.

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

that should read "bread" not "break" as in sliced rye bread is the coolest stuff in the world.

TNNH


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Did did you stop to think...even in the smallest moment...that maybe NASA has a bit more to worry about than copyright infringement?

This gets the petty post of the year award!


User currently offlineIHAdAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Just an update I have informed EBay's SafeHarbor (Their fraud unit) of this item and they are now investigating this auction

Yours,
IHadAPheo



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

I'm with you on that one greg. But if Ihad.. has the time and the will to pursue this guy, good for him. I say let him sell the photo. He has a willing buyer, he'll advertised the product accurately.

Auction was created on Feb 1. If this is what the guy first thinks of on the day of a national tragedy, he's got to be a schmuck.

TNNH


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Just goes to show the nature of some people









ADG
RIP little arachnids .... their lives ended far to early ....


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Did did you stop to think...even in the smallest moment...that maybe NASA has a bit more to worry about than copyright infringement?
No Greg, the disaster completely slipped my mind!  Pissed

IHadAPheo, thanks for letting them know. Can you give me a link for future refrence? He shouldn't be allowed to sell them on ebay. TNNH, so he steals one of my photos off here and trys to sell it, are you saying that's legal?


User currently offlineHamfist From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 614 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

May not be illegal, but you could always express your feelings directly to this guy by clicking on the "ask seller a question" link.

User currently offlineIHAdAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

I received a couple of emails from Ebay on this one a "canned" response saying "thanks for your report...) and another saying I was not the only one to complain. So if anyone else wants to chime I have posted the link for EBay complaints below (they sure do make it hard to find).

http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html

Yours,
IHadAPheo



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

If he obtained the picture at some kind of event before the launch, he should have every right to sell it. It might be in bad taste but bad taste isn't illegal.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineIHAdAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Not to rant on here but..

If he obtained the photo legally he may sell IT, it does not give him Carte Blanche (sp?) to reproduce it and sell the reproductions for his own profit.

IHAP



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

TNNH, so he steals one of my photos off here and trys to sell it, are you saying that's legal?

If he makes any money off the photo, your entitled to a piece. if he refuses, take him to court. your not attempting to rebuild a space shuttle destroyed at 13,000 mph, so you can fight the good fight. NASA should have other priorities.

TNNH


User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Well... it appears he hooked one sucker on his $20.00 fishing trip. Some people are just so stupid.

If I wanted a picture of the crew of the Columbia, I would print out that picture (which is easily found on any news website) on any one of Purdue's color laser printers. This would cost me the low price of... FREE! (If you want to nit-pick, I do pay $500 out of my tuition for computer lab fees.)

- Neil Harrison


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1549 times:


Just for those of you who aren´t that familiar with eBay: the seller´s asking price was 1 cent; it´s now at 20$ because six people placed 10 bids on it, driving it up to the current level.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

If he makes any money off the photo, your entitled to a piece. if he refuses, take him to court. your not attempting to rebuild a space shuttle destroyed at 13,000 mph, so you can fight the good fight. NASA should have other priorities.

If anyone tried that, I'd automatically nail them to the wall because that is copyright infringment. I never even said anything about the disaster (for obvious reasons), I know NASA has other things to worry about right now. That's why I stated where on ebay can you report this. Thanks to everyone who responded without a smart@ss remark.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Twaneedshelp, why is it OK to sell copyrighted work if that work belongs to NASA?
Is it also OK if I find a photo you took on the net and sold that?



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Im absolutely disgusted by these bounty hunters making money off other peoples misery .... where is the respect these days?
Regards
Shaun  Pissed



All together or not at all
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

NASA pictures are not usually copyrighted. If the original picture is not copyrighted then people can do as they wish.

However, you cannot have any respect for people who make money from disaster. But you cannot blame him alone, what about the people who bid?




ADG


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

Profiteering off of tragedy is the American Way. It may be egregious, but it's still the American way.

How are Ambulance companies, burglar alarm companies, auto repair shops, and so on operating?

If there was no crime, death or disaster, then there would be little reason for these businesses to exist (except maybe for the man who has a heart attack while watching The Golf Channel)

And let's be honest folks. You know as well as I do that if you had some obscure piece of whatever laying around that could suddenly net you an extra [tax free] ten or twenty thousand dollars, and you'd never miss the item, you too would jump on that bandwagon.

So don't even try and give that cock-n-bull High Moral Ground BS.

You're just jealous.


User currently offlineIHAdAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Another update, the auction closed because the seller "pulled" the item. I guess a couple of complaints to Ebay's safeharbor did the trick, and saved some poor schmuck from being suckered out of $20.00.

Yours,
IHadAPheo



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

ADG: That picture is property of NASA whether its copyrighted or not. For anyone to profit of it, they must have NASA's consent.

Jwenting: Depends on what your definition of "ok" is.

TNNH


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