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World Trade Center Designs Narrowed To 2  
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Today, February 4, potential designs for the replacement of the World Trade Center complex were narrowed down to 2. Although whatever is built there won't replicate the designs exactly, they will serve as a model concept for the future development. Here is a link to the story:

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030204_1178.html


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User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

The two suriving proposals were the Daniel Libeskind proposal for the series of glass towers and the THINK proposal for the two very tall lattice work towers with the skypark at the very top.

It's too bad Norman Foster's design didn't come through, I liked that one a lot.

TNNH


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

I hope the Libeskind proposal is chosen. The THINK proposal I believe would be a constant visual reminder of the original twin towers - kind of like ghosts - with all the associated negative imagery.


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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4634 times:

I hope the Minoru Yamasaki design is implemented. A reaaaaalllll long shot, yes....but one can still always hope.

Otherwise, the thing might as well remain the World Trade Pit filled with weeds and surrounded by chain link fence forever.

I spit in the face of any other design.


User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

They should have picked Foster's concept, the Libeskind one looks horrific with toom any sharp and harsh angles, and I don't care too much for the THINK design. Foster's would have inspired the same awe and simple beauty that the original towers did but in a more modern form

User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

There's WAAAAYYYYY too many "ar-teeeests" involved in this process and not enough common sense. The THINK design team's leader tried to convey what his design meant, and I was like ..."Ok." How about less "meant" and more "splendor"?

This process shouldn't be some Impressionistic orgy whose end result is really only appreciated by the archeitecturally 'cultured'. I'm not saying build a pre-fab brick or some gaudy retro block....but some of these designs were a little 'out there'. I mean how practical is the THINK design? Please.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5999 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

So, any links to the 2 "finalists"? So far the PANYNJ site ain't working, Renew NYC.com is unavailable & the links on ABC News' site are gone.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Libeskind proposal:



THINK proposal:




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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5999 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

As I said, the Renewnyc.com site is currently Unservicable Big grin

User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

lots of pictures and movies of the designs at:
http://www.nytimes.com

it's a link on the right side, shouldn't he hard to find.


User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

The World fricken' Culture Center??? PUH-LEASE!

I've got your culture right here.

Here's my design. It's called the World Friggen Trade Center and it looks like this:



Only it's got one more story.

F Bin Laden, F these huggly wuggly designs, and F these dumb ass names.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4490 times:

I'm terribly disappointed in the two finalists. In my mind they were the two worst proposals out of the choice of 10 or so we had last year.

The Libeskind proposal looks like a Planet of the Apes set. Why would anyone want to have NYC look like a wrecking ball went through it.

The THINK proposal looks like it is transparant. If it is, you can't have many people work there can you? A bloody waste of space.

Charles


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4478 times:

God, I think these two look awful. They're to artsy fartsy. Oh well.  Sad


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User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4479 times:

TWAL1011- I completely agree with the whole Idea of putting 2 piece of crap buildings where once 2 great, beautiful, simple, yet classy ones stood. I am also opposed for looks, the building has to not only have the room needed to satisfy all of the businesses, yet also represent a Nation, and yet leave room for the memorial. But most importantly rub it into the terrorists' faces saying *we build the same building with one more floor, therefore proving we have overcome your attack, B*tch*.

If we build this-it's probably going to collapse since it's going to be built out of toothpicks, and won't symbolize a coutry, carry an *in your face* message or memorialize what the original WTC was all about.

Anyone up for the rebuilding of the WTC with one more floor say I!



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User currently offlineTodareisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

After the tragedy, it was said that no skyscrapers should be built at the site, and that the office offer in the WTC was too important; now, the designs are for higher buildings with the same amount of office floor...

All the proposed designs are bad, and not at all suited to restore New York's unique skyline; the ONLY solution would be to rebuild clones of the Twin Towers, with today's technical advances. These towers were absolutely fantastic, and they gave New York its distinctive image for 3 decades; they were also a fabulous testimony of the 20th century architectural genius.

Nothing else would be able to "replace" them, and surely not the proposed concepts.



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User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Nothing will ever 100% percent replace them of course, but I stand by my thought that this came the closest out of all of them.



distinctive, modern, yet some of the simple elegance the originals had.


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

we want a building, not 2 incredibly large chopsticks buried in NEW YORK like it's a bowl of rice...


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4377 times:

I'm not from NYC, I'm not even American, but - wow, my two favorites made it to the last round. No, I'm not kidding - I really like both proposals. Now I'm hoping the best for Libeskind.

NoUFO



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8268 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

I still say either don't touch it or re-build the originals.


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

re-build the originals

A poular opinion. But how many people would have the heart to work in a carbon copy of the former WTC?

But most importantly rub it into the terrorists' faces saying *we build the same building with one more floor, therefore proving we have overcome your attack, B*tch*.

As I see it, especially Libeskind's proposal "rubs" culture into the "terrorists's faces". It remirrors "civilisation vs. terrorism" best IMO and pays respect to the victims of 9/11.

NoUFO



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User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4356 times:

Sorry, but Libeskind's proposal sucks ass.

User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Greetings:

Both designs are a total waste of time, effort, land, and building material. New York should have the honor again of having the worlds tallest building! Not the worlds tallest "Airy" structure. The best design out of all of them was Peterson/Littenberg's design, modern yet elegant. I'd rather see the space left empty then seeing either of these structures go up.

Tom


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

The WTC wasn't the world's tallest building.
Peterson/Littenberg's proposal was neither modern nor elegant IMO but rather an uninspired retrodesign.

NoUFO



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User currently offlineTodareisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

re-build the originals

A poular opinion. But how many people would have the heart to work in a carbon copy of the former WTC?



This reasoning was also used to explain why no skyscrapers should be built at the WTC site...and now the plans are for even higher towers.


*


The WTC wasn't the world's tallest building.

Indeed, but these buildings were among the most spectacular and beautiful ones in the world. I can't even imagine New York without them....





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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Erm to be honest, the original twin towers wern't that great. They were boring and bland.

25 Buckfifty : I think they should just put two ICBM silos there. Anyone who argues with the decision will just get their ass nuked. Saves a lot of tears and hurt fe
26 Todareisinger : the original twin towers wern't that great. They were boring and bland. Of course these are personnal questions of taste...but they were objectively a
27 Tbird : I never said The World Trade Center were the world's tallest buildings. I simply said New York should once again have the honor of having the worlds t
28 Matt D : I think the real reason (or at least a significant factor) behind all of this "safety" rhetoric of the reluctance to rebuild the original Towers (even
29 Todareisinger : The main motivation for all these architects is to secure THEIR name in the architectural legacy of the world's most exciting city; but it's sad that
30 Post contains images TWAL1011 : I think they should just put two ICBM silos there. Anyone who argues with the decision will just get their ass nuked. Saves a lot of tears and hurt fe
31 STT757 : I really wanted Lord Norman Foster's design to win out, perhaps they could incorporate his towers with the site plan of the two finalists. From what I
32 777236ER : As are all of you anti-American posts lately. Wtf!! They WERE bland and boring! How does that make me anti-American?!
33 TWAL1011 : No, no, no. Not just this post.
34 STT757 : TWAL1011, While Im all for building tall (if not rebuilding the towers exactly as they were), the obvious question is who is going to occupy the upper
35 Klaus : The Libeskind design would be a ruin... An elaborate and deliberate one at that, but still little more than pain set in glass and steel. (And painful
36 NoUFO : When Foster introduced his proposal, he quickly mentioned how people can be evacuated if need be. It's really one tall building ... NoUFO
37 Post contains images Klaus : NoUFO: When Foster introduced his proposal, he quickly mentioned how people can be evacuated if need be. It's really one tall building ... Well, reall
38 TWAL1011 : While Im all for building tall (if not rebuilding the towers exactly as they were), the obvious question is who is going to occupy the upper level. Th
39 777236ER : Please enlighten me. Where have I been anti-American?
40 TWAL1011 : Are you unable to do a search on your posts and read them?
41 Pilot1113 : >>A poular opinion. But how many people would have the heart to work in a carbon copy of the former WTC?
42 777236ER : Yes I can look at my own posts and I don't see how they're anti-American. Care to back up your comments?
43 777236ER : So you WON'T back up your comments. Ok.
44 TWAL1011 : Sorry, 236ER, I didn't know you were still here. You can't see that they're anti-American? Your attitude toward the U.S. could hardly be labled as pos
45 777236ER : Wow more allegations. I'm not particularly possitive towards some of the US government's policies. I've yet to see any evidence that my attitude towar
46 TWAL1011 : You mean you really like us??? Well then get over here and give me a hug, you big silly!
47 777236ER : I would but you know how Matt D gets around hugging men.
48 TWAL1011 : LOL. Excited is the word.
49 NBC News1 : I personally love the Libenskind plan and I hope that one wins. I've tried as hard as I could, but I can't not think the THINK plan is awful.
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