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Are American Children Intelligent?  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Haha! You thought it was going to be an anti-American post! Well my dear, that says a lot more about you than it does about me. For shame I say, pity.

Anyway, I was in the LHR waiting lounge Terminal 3 on 14 December 2002 and I was sitting near an American man with his two children.

I have noticed this trend whenver I go to a major international airport. American children seem very intelligent and have intelligent voices. In addition, the parents also seem clever and answer in an intelligent fashion.

Has anyone else seen/noticed this in American families?


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User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Like every country - some are intelligent and some are stupid.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

Airtravel is expensive especially for a family, so you don´t exactly end up next
to the lower class.....


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

Has anyone else seen/noticed this in American families?

I really thought I did with my cousin's 6 year old son....but then he got the sixth consecutive Reeses Pieces stuck up his nostril, and I abandoned the notion.


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

Actually, it depends. If you are in the US and waiting for a flight on Southwest, I can guarantee you there are some children that are waaay more intelligent than their parents. God, you should see some of the trash on SW flights. I would almost rather pay 200 more dollars to get from point A to B just to not have to sit next to em.

Now Singapore, Alessandro does have a point. First of all, most of the people who travel OUTSIDE of the US and take alltheir kids, etc., do have the money to do so, hence the higher intelligence. However, there are many people who can't afford to fly in the US who are extremely intelligent as well. Doesn't matter what country, you have smart ones, and you have dumb ones.

UAL747


User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Actually, it depends. If you are in the US and waiting for a flight on Southwest, I can guarantee you there are some children that are waaay more intelligent than their parents. God, you should see some of the trash on SW flights. I would almost rather pay 200 more dollars to get from point A to B just to not have to sit next to em.

Could you be just a little more judgmental there pal? And people wonder why I am always singing the praises of Southwest. It's to counterbalance crap like this.





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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2933 times:

I see. Do continue.


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User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2928 times:

You say this is LHR, the only reason the American Children were well behaved was because all the other kids and teens back in the US don't have a clue where London is.

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2917 times:

American children seem very intelligent and have intelligent voices. In addition, the parents also seem clever and answer in an intelligent fashion

What defines an 'intelligent' voice?
I guess,as a generalisation,those Americans who travel abroad are more likely to be wealthy and therefore overally more intelligent,than those who do not travel as much.Same with the UK.


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2882 times:

Interesting that people equate wealth with intelligence.

How about wealth with the appearance of intelligence ?



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User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

They are...compared to dogs. I am a citizen of America and certainly have to put up with their annoying questions and behavior at local supermarkets and other facilities. No respect for most of their parents, no manners, no common sense. Although some do have quite intelligent things to say on occasions.


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Interesting that people equate wealth with intelligence.

It's a proven fact that (at least in the United States) that people with a greater wealth/net income usually have a higher education.



User currently offlineLubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

well it really depends..i know kids that think pogroms landed on the mayflower, but i also know kids who are extremely intelligent

of course, some of the not so bright kids may excel in conversation and the intellectuals may be social doorknobs


User currently offlineKRIC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2835 times:
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Interesting that people equate wealth with intelligence.

How about wealth with the appearance of intelligence ?


Or how about (at least here in the USA) that the more intelligent one is, the more curiosity about, and desire to visit, foreign countries one is likely to have..regardless of income (although certainly one must also have the resources to allow foreign travel).

Or more specificaly, if we are talking about children, as in the original post, their parents have this intelligence/curiosity/sense of adventure, so are likely to pass it on to their children. Not necessarily a money issue....but that certainly contributes. I know plenty of people who have the means to travel abroad but who lack the brains to see what they are missing by not doing it. Conversely, there are plenty of folks (e.g. ME) who can't wait to travel abroad, but don't yet have the bread  Sad


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

I'm a smart American kid  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

I can't believe the arrogance of some posting in this topic. Unbelievable.

User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

... and now flight152 equates higher education with greater intelligence ... dangerous stuff ?

But seriously, I never really notice intelligence in children. As Kric777 mentions, the thing that strikes (or not) me about some kids is their natural and obvious curiosity. Do they have it or not ?



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

It's a proven fact that (at least in the United States) that people with a greater wealth/net income usually have a higher education.

Flight152, you've never read The Millionaire Mind by Stanley and Danko, have you? You'd think otherwise. Many of America's millionaires have little or no higher education. More significant, however, is that their research found no correlation between high SAT scores and the tendency to accumulate wealth.

[Edited 2003-02-07 05:06:39]

User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Um....compared to children in other countries? I would say they are adequately intelligent on the whole. But let's start a thread on the real issues. In general are they ethical, tolerant, and do they have a realistic view of the rest of the world. No.

User currently offlineBeefmoney From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1116 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

I think we need to back away from the stereotypes. Not every person in the USA is "stupid".

I think the real issue is the French and their astonishing ability to surrender faster than any other nation on earth.

*ducks and runs* Smile


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

Let's not confuse being intellegent with being refined. People that are refined (good manners, good etiquette, clean vocabulary) don't necessarily have to be intellegent, but they probably get more opportunities for income than unrefined people. So, I can see the connection to that point.


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User currently offlineChief From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

Ha! You think Southwest is bad, obviously you have never flown on Alaska Airlines.

You know all the seats that Continental removed to increase seat pitch? Well they sold them to Alaska so they could pack 24 more people into their cattle cars!

Back to the subject at hand, our kids aren't any more intelligent than anybody else's. Just depends on how you raise them.


User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

... and now flight152 equates higher education with greater intelligence ... dangerous stuff ?

Perhaps Pacific Journey has been drinking a bit too much again. Reading stuff I have never written. I said "people with a greater wealth/net income usually have a higher education.". Not "higher education with greater intelligence" as you claim.

More significant, however, is that their research found no correlation between high SAT scores and the tendency to accumulate wealth.

The SAT is a test of reasoning skills, not IQ, big difference there.

Flight152, you've never read The Millionaire Mind by Stanley and Danko, have you? You'd think otherwise.

No, but I perfer my census facts over some frivolous book.





User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

In league with the idea that America is a "melting pot" of diversity, we probably have the greatest range and scope of intelligent people and... not so intelligent people.

User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Here's My Opinion (like any of you care)...


You cant necessarily say "all american children are smart" or "all american children are dumb". Theres 280-some million people in America... theres 60 million of what you'd call "children". Theres just such a wiiiiiiide spectrum that you cant really generalize.


I can make some regional observations. I live in the Metro-Detroit, Michigan area (out in the suburbs). Children are a product of their surroundings. Kids growing up in Detroit where the median house price is $22,000 and most are raised by a single parent are going to turn out different then somebody who lives in West Bloomfield, goes to a private school, and lives in a $300,000 house.

Another thing, I know some kids who attended the City of Detroit Public schools. Going to Knoxville, Tennessee is a big deal for them. They dont travel out of the country, unless its over the Ambassador Bridge to Windsor, Ontario so they can get smashed on their 18th birthday.



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25 GotAirbus : Donder10 American children seem very intelligent and have intelligent voices. In addition, the parents also seem clever and answer in an intelligent f
26 Jcs17 : Flight152, you've never read The Millionaire Mind by Stanley and Danko, have you? You'd think otherwise. Many of America's millionaires have little or
27 FlyingTexan : Actually, it depends. If you are in the US and waiting for a flight on Southwest, I can guarantee you there are some children that are waaay more inte
28 Ual747 : I'm sorry, but I've seen more people without teeth and sporting mullets in their metallica t-shirts than on any other airline. I'm not insulting the i
29 Post contains images EGGD : Wearing Metallica t-shirts does not make you stupid though . Not that I own one.....
30 Ual747 : Sorry, maybe I should clarify....I'm sure the guy with the mullet, no teeth, and a metallica shirt could very well be a Harvard scholar with a backgro
31 Post contains images Ual747 : And I'm also sure that his obese wife, with her platinum bleached and crimped hair with 3 inch black roots and split end who you could swear you saw h
32 Muddydawg : The one that sat behind me from Charleston to Charlotte wasn't. He smacked my seat the entire flight and the more I told him to stop the more he did i
33 MD-90 : Flight152, it's not some frivolous book. They back their data up with serious, solid research.
34 IHAdAPheo : on syaw emos ni ,sey syaw emos nI, Now back to the thread... A better question is how motivated are American children, a person can be "smart", have a
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