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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 783 times:

In protesting opposition to U.S. foreign policy, the protesters inadvertently align themselves with Saddam Hussein. I wonder if they realize that, or are they not intelligent enough to realize it.

I did not see any "Saddam Out!" signage next to "U.S./Bush No Blood For Oil" signs.

Funny how the cards fall.

The world is full of Chamberlain's.






"You Can't Beat The Experience"
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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 774 times:

I wonder if you are intelligent enough to realize that a protest against the war isn't necessarily a vote for Saddam.

User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 771 times:

I am indeed. Again...why the no "Out with Saddam" signs? Same issue no?




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User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Simple..


They arent under Saddam's thumb. They dont know how bad it is. It doesnt effect their lives, so why oust him?

Its all about how self-absorbed people are.



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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 760 times:

Huh?

I believe they are marching to protest an unjust and unjustifiable war. So, it follows that they would have signs that say things like "Down with war".



User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 752 times:

Ok, so ousting a leader that gases his own people and tortures dissenters isnt OK?

Just like WWII... Appease the dictator. Nothing will happen. All will remain happy. Right?



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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 752 times:

Ah, but does it not go deeper than just no war? Why no war? Or, more importantly WHY war?

Issues at hand need to be thought over clearly. And the result...the TOTAL result needs to be realized.

Words and actions have meanings. Taking a stand and that stands interpretation, also needs to be seen. Clearly for some, it has not.




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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 745 times:

What does this have to do with your thesis that somehow, anti-war protesters have aligned themselves with Hussein?

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 737 times:
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So you think millions around the world are protesting just for the sake of it? This war is reckless and unnecessary, it will probably plunge a region that is already volatile on the egde of collapse. Most importantly, the case for war has simply not been made, no evidence, no proof and no justification. Had this possible war been justified with genuine persusion, people would not be protesting it, obviously this is not the case, simple as that.




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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 733 times:

So if the U.N. approves action in the future you would be in favor of it? Total favor?




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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 726 times:
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If the UN gives the authority that military action is required, then i would be more willing to support it. Multilateralism is vital, not unilateralism.




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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 723 times:

"So if the U.N. approves action in the future you would be in favor of it? Total favor?"

Huh? Are you talking to me?

Before you latch on to some other thread of discussion, can you please explain your thesis? It went something like this: protesters are unintelligent because, by protesting against the war, they are supporting Saddam Hussein.

Can you please explain the logic that supports this argument?


User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 720 times:

"More willing", but with certain clauses? Seems to me that leaves no end in sight.




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User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 712 times:

I think a lot of them protesters feel the same way I do, That is they can tell when they are being sold a load of shit... And that's exactly what GW Bush is trying to sell the world and a lot of people aren't buying it. I think the people who support the war want war for the sake of war ...not any other reason.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 708 times:

Want war for the sake of war? I highly doubt any sane person wants that!



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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 704 times:

Okay Clipperhawaii,

This is to document that you simply won't answer my question.

Have a nice evening.

- MBM


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 687 times:

MBMBOS, I think Clipper has a point, but only because he used the term 'inadvertantly'. I agree with him in that regard. The worldwide protests are giving Saddam more resolve. I think that's what he meant and I believe that is 100% true. Saddam sees the protesters on his side (according to his latest statements) and he'll continue his current path because of this. This will make war almost a certainty as is eliminates a lot of favorable alternatives. However, before you or anyone gets into a tizzy, I will stress, Saddam is wrong and even though I disagree with much of what the protesters are saying, I'd never think they are actually supporting the regime in any way. That is as nuts as saying people that support military action in this case are doing it for the sake of war.  Big grin


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User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 678 times:

In protesting opposition to U.S. foreign policy, the protesters inadvertently align themselves with Saddam Hussein. I wonder if they realize that, or are they not intelligent enough to realize it.

So what was our excuse when we were not so inadvertantly alligned with Saddam Hussein?

The protesters of this coming war, which may last a week or 30 years, may be many things but I wouldn't rank being sympathetic to Saddam Hussein as one of them.....yet. As long as we're talking 'inadvertants', are we intelligent enough to know that a full frontal US spearheaded assault with many Iraqi civillian deaths will have built for Saddam the part in the play he's always craved but never ever earned....sympathy.

But hey, we've got Rummy Rumsfeld to smooth things over.



User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 657 times:

So you think millions around the world are protesting just for the sake of it? This war is reckless and unnecessary, it will probably plunge a region that is already volatile on the egde of collapse. Most importantly, the case for war has simply not been made, no evidence, no proof and no justification. Had this possible war been justified with genuine persusion, people would not be protesting it, obviously this is not the case, simple as that.

Have you ever thought if there are millions protesting there are billions not protesting? That the U.S. has more countries with it than against? I personally am against it I want the U.S. out altogether! But since more are for it than against it,using your logic,guess were going to war,simple as that.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 654 times:

Saddam sees the protesters on his side (according to his latest statements) and he'll continue his current path because of this.

Why don't Saddam let his own people protest???

This brings to mind a fellow a.net user showing up at a war protest with a sign that said

"Kill Saddam. Liberate Iraq"

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/328525/

JR FlyingTexan


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