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The Losers At The Anti-war Protests  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Watching coverage of the anti-war protests is pretty funny.

I think that the anti-war protesters (the people that actually show up to these things) break down to about 7 groups of people:

1) College students who want to go against their parents views, and feel quite rebellious in doing so. These are the same kids who weekend highlights include going to see a shitty local punk group, dying their hair pink, getting their nose pierced, and doing pretty much anything to get their parents attention. They were the kind of kids that got their ass kicked on a bi-weekly basis in high school. Full member of Amnesty International.

2) The communists and socialists. In the US, at least, most of these people have an IQ that rivals a squirrel. They wrongly think that Marxist regimes are all peaceful, and that people like Lenin and Marx are against death and indescriminate killing. You will often find communists and socialists working (and I use that term very loosely) as English teachers and "freelance webmasters."

3) Anarchists. Like the communists and socialists they have the IQ of a squirrel. Anarchists dont seem to grasp the concept that if their was no government, they wouldnt be sucking down that Marlboro, wearing their Birkenstocks (very comfortable sandals, though), and their Che Guevara t-shirt. The infastructure wouldnt exist. The dilusional beliefs of these people are that of a psychopath, the government is out to get them, etc. Most of the time, these people dont have a job, other than trying to find a couch to crash on for the night.

4) The PETA activist, somehow this soul is able to link the Iraq war and the treatment of sheep. Most often these people stick out like a sore thumb, instead of carrying signs like "No War with Iraq!" they carry signs like "Bush abuses animals." Basically, they are just looking for an excuse to protest. You will more than likely find the PETA activist working at a cashier at a short-lived vegetarian restraunt or as a waitress/bartender at a crappy local club.

5) Pot heads. Well, the Republicans are against pot, so were gonna protest against the war. Not so strangely, pot-head tends to live in the worst part of town because he spends most of his money on illegal drugs. Also not so strangely, they tend to have trouble holding down their part time jobs as pizza delivery guys and janitors.

6) The washed up hippy. These are the kind of people that still use the words groovy and radical. The happiest moment of their lives was when they were protesting against the Vietnam War in Washington, when their lifestyle was glorified. However, in recent years they have been deeply saddened by the backlash against the hippy lifestyle, and by showing up at these protests against the War in Iraq they feel as if they can still regain some of the lost magic. Somehow, these people tend to have white-collar well paying jobs, and their biggest expense is paying for their children's illigitimate children due to their lax parenting.

7) Militant African-Americans and Latinos. Its all whitie's fault, all they want to do is send our children into battle and see them killed. A black man is committing war crimes in Zimbabwe is okay, because the whites have kept the black man down their...for Saddam to commit war crimes is a-okay, no blacks or Latinos are being discriminated against in Iraq. These people covet their signed pictures of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and long for the day when whitie has to pay for slavery through reparations.

Sorry if I left any of you out...feel free to add your descriptions and pictures! Big grin


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I think the real losers, Jcs, are people like you, who think that war is some great tv adventure to watch at home, but who doesn't dare go out and fight himself. Those are the true losers, those who think war is something great, like yourself.

They're hoping people won't die-you're hoping that they do.


User currently offlineNASA737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

I agree with JCS, and I am a uniformed member of the armed forces. Maybe I'm a true loser?

They're not hoping people won't die - they could care less.


User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

Here's another group at the protests... Ordinary middle-class people with moderate political views, who rarely attend demonstrations, but think that the war in Iraq is simply a bad idea. Many observers have pointed out that a large percentage of protestors this weekend, both in the US and Europe, came from this group. Makes you think...

No doubt about it; Jcs17's generalizations are just plain wrong in this case.

[Edited 2003-02-18 05:09:02]

User currently offlineB747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Alpha 1: "They're hoping people won't die-you're hoping that they do."

Right, because you know this like I know the sun will rise tomorrow. Please, give me a break. Where ever has Jcs17 ever said that he wants people to die? That's right, you made that up.

Jcs17: You forgot all about the misguided youth who all they hear about in highschool is how bad Bush is and how bad war is from their crazy hippy-ultra liberal teachers.

-Nick


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21478 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

If there´s one remarkable thing about the current protests, it´s how representative of the general population they are, compared to earlier protests.

Mostly decent, middle-class people.

Which isn´t really surprising at anti-war rates of 60-90% in the polls all over Europe.

[Edited 2003-02-18 04:56:27]

User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Very accurate JCS.

Here at the University of Texas last Wednesday some groups tried to organize a "walkout against war". The whole concept seems idiotic since you're paying for the very classes that you're walking out on but that's beside the point for now.

When it came time for "the walkout" about 10% of the class I was in stood up and walked out. Guess what? Every last one of those people either had dreadlocks, multiple body piercings, a tye dyed t-shirt, or just overall looked like they hadn't bathed in a few days. A few of them yelled "no blood for oil" and "war is murder" as they walked out. The professor just paused for a few seconds and continued his lecture after these rastifarians vacated the auditorium.

Overall 3,000 people participated in the demonstration out of 53,000 students, and some of those 3,000 were (sadly enough) facutly members. Of course it's no big secret that most college campuses have more than their share of socialists.

On the bright side, there were some counter-protestors with signs that took a hard line on saddam and both sides got coverage in the local press. In addition, a pretty small percentage of the campus actually showed up considering EVERYONE knew about this well in advance. Hopefully we can get all this garbage over with soon so I don't have to hear hippies yelling in my face about subjects my dog is more knowledgeable about.


User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

so much for love and peace...that they beat and punched a horse belonging to the NYPD mounted unit--like the horse was making judgements  Yeah sure

User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Hey! Don't diss on the punk scene! We might not be liked very much, but don't dye our hair pink have no political views whatsoever, pierce our bodies and go to stupid punk shows. We are just like anyone else, if you compare me to another *normal* person, you would not be able to tell the difference since most of the people in the punk scene don't have mohawks dyed hair and piercings, in fact, most of the ones that do, follow a trend to *look cool and bad*. And also most of us aren't Anarchists...

Sometimes people amaze me with such stupidity.



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

What I don't understand is what other option is there? Saddam isn't going away by himself. The anti-war protesters have good intentions, no one wants war, but good intentions mean nothing without any other solutions. How many more UN resolutions is Saddam going to disobey? How much longer does Saddam get to play his hide and seek game with inspectors?

Are we supposed to sit on the sidelines and wait for something big to happen in the middle east? We have to do something....soon.



User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

I don't know about Europe, but the attendees of the Anti-American rallies in the U.S. were not representative of our population in any way shape or form. Not to say that there were no housewives or middle-aged, middle-management types there, just they were not there in strong numbers.

The rallies were organized (in most large cities) by the American Worker's Party (Communist) and several Anti-Globalization outfits. Most of the attendees were as JCS described them... Anarchists, communists, the willfully disenfranchised and basically the completely clueless.

I was actually looking forward to hearing some cogent anti-war reasoning from the protest organizers... Maybe something that would convince me to evaluate my own stance on the issues (that's a healthy thing- You should do it often). All I got was the usual Anti-American, "it's all about oil", "don't hurt the children", and "Bush sucks" garbage. I am very disappointed.


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Jsc17; can you please explain to me in detailed terms, how I as a socialist, have less IQ than you?

This oughtta be good for a laugh!!!


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

Once again Alpha1 swallows his foot and leg. While he might support the United States in somethings, when it comes to politics, Alpha, Nutsy, and Smallfly are all just clones of one another. Its the same old tired liberal rhetoric with a bit of different window dressing.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

The real losers weren't even at the protests...if we want to use "losers" in the sense of "those who are going to be screwed, yet again." Thanks to the "leaders" of places like France and Germany (and don't forget trusty little Belgium), and the sentiment from these "protesters" they feed off of (representative, my ass....just any left wing nut with a bone to pick or a joint to smoke runing around outside on a weekend), the people of Iraq get to live under Sadam's boot heel for that much longer. As Bob Dole once said, "WHERE IS THE RAGE?" Why aren't the Amnesty International types marching the streets with anti-Saddam signs instead of Bush caricatures? Where have these people been the past 12 years while Sadam starves his country, while stealing most of the international aid to fund his own regime, his military, his terror ties and his family's lavish lifestyle? The plain fact is, the Iraqi people aren't a trendy cause in the coffee houses, so they really don't care...it is more trendy to be anti-Bush, even if that means giving people like Saddam a free pass, and siding with such humanitarians as Vladmir Putin and the People's Republic *cough* of China. And don't give me all that bullshit about the tens of thousands of Iraqis Bush wants to kill....the only Iraqi civilians that will be killed are those that Uncle Sadam straps to his missle batteries, couting on the fact that the West, specifically the US, has a concern for human life and may think twice before taking away his toys before he gets to use them against the people of Israel...give or take a few Palestinians who would also be killed. We could just explain that away by calling them martyrs....The cost in American lives (and British and Australian) will most likely come from this same concern for Iraqi civilians. One of the top priorities is safeguarding civilians and infrastructure. The toll that will be taken on Iraqi civilians will be from where it has always been from...Saddam and his goons. So, I guess until the Iraqi people are suddenly hunted down for their pelts to make coats, the lefties will continue as they are.





Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

Cwapilot...

A damn good post. I could not have expressed my own frustration any better. A spot on my respected user list for you!

The ultra liberal left will not have any legitimacy with me (or any thinking individual) until they apply there anger against those nations and organizations who are really responsible for the suffering in this world. In all of the press coverage of the protests (or at the protest I stupidly walked past today) I did not see one sign that said "Remember the victims of 9/11!" or "Saddam is Evil". Nope, to protest against true evil would not serve the overall political agenda of such groups; the American Worker's Party and Amnesty International have no say in Iraq.

Hope you all had fun at the march and make sure you keep those blisters on your heels clean. Just try to remember that the absence of war is not the same as peace.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

Well done, JCS. Also, thank you KAUS for your comments.

I’m surprised some of the UT Professors did not walk out themselves.

JR FlyingTexan


User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

If these protesters really cared about the real issue which is Saddam, they would have held signs up high that said "Saddam Out" or "Free Iraq" or "Save Iraqi People, Death to Saddam". But NO we did not see any of this. What we saw was Bush bad Bush bad Bush bad. Like some sort of liberal mantra. Saddam is the issue plain and simple.

Most Americans (smart ones that is) see what these protests were really aimed at. America, Bush and any other person that they can spew their mis-guided hatred.

They wasted their time. Intelligent people saw thru this canard.

Hopefully you did too.



"You Can't Beat The Experience"
User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Right JCS. Me, an average kid who grew up in an upper-middle class suburb outside of Boston. The child of centrists who allowed me to choose my own political avenue. An average student never holding any firm political views. Someone who never took part in any sort of major demonstration.

Personally, I don't smoke pot, I listen to Céline Dion and Kylie Minogue, I'm not an ageing hippy, nor a hippy at all, and I'm not black or Hispanic. But I guess because I support, cheap healthcare to every American, I guess I must be a communist.  Insane

Please! Why don't you enter into the real world for a while.

LH423



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User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Instead of CHEAP healthcare to every American (because, as you get used to the real world, you will find that...cheap...you get what you pay for), how about SOME...ANY AT ALL...food, and peace and security for the Iraqi people? Was that on your protest sign, or were you there more out of your spite for Bush and his health care policies (which, by the way, ensure every American the same type of insurance coverage members of Congress voted themselves)...among other things?




Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Cwapilot wrote:

"Thanks to the "leaders" of places like France and Germany (and don't forget trusty little Belgium), and the sentiment from these "protesters" they feed off of (representative, my ass....just any left wing nut with a bone to pick or a joint to smoke runing around outside on a weekend),"

Again, this is just plain wrong. Most observers have remarked how these demonstrations, particularly the ones in Europe (but many US ones as well), were very representative of the general population -- with attendance by ordinary, moderate, educated, middle-class people (and, yes, the usual nutty radicals as well, but that doesn't change anything).

"Where have these people been the past 12 years while Sadam starves his country, while stealing most of the international aid to fund his own regime, his military, his terror ties and his family's lavish lifestyle?"

Well, we all know that Saddam Hussein is an evil dictator; no sane person would deny that. Many people, however, don't think that a war is a good idea right now. Those who oppose the war don't oppose it because they like Saddam; they oppose it, for the most part, because of the possible consequences -- political, humanitarian, and military -- this conflict may cause.

[Edited 2003-02-18 06:59:35]

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3673 times:
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so much for love and peace...that they beat and punched a horse belonging to the NYPD mounted unit--like the horse was making judgements


Are you shittin me? Did that really happen? IF so, they are friggin hypocrits!



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User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

PHX-LJU
-That's the spin they're putting on it, that's for sure. It's a load of crap...are you telling me that potential humanitarian concerns override the humanitarian disaster that is occuring as we speak....the one which will end only when Saddam is gone? What political consequences? France will develop a yet deeper inferiority complex? Military consequences? A brutal madman will not be at the helm of one of the largest military forces in one of the most volatile regions of the world? These people are not thinking beyond their own noses here. It's all nice to announce that you were at a peace protest and blah blah blah....why not consider the consequences of allowing Saddam to keep going as he is going, with ineffective inspections once every 12 years when an American President with resolve is actually in office? As a high school punk, I was all gung-ho about Gulf War I...I even had one of those shirts with a cartoon of Saddam's mobile scud missle launcher (a camel with a missle in its mouth, and its nuts on a stump, about to be pummelled by an Iraqi with a hammer)....I woke up to reality when I saw, first hand, with some of the Iraqi refugees who settled here in Iowa, the brutality of this dictator. That is why the international pissing contest initiated by the likes of France and Germany really frustrates me. They, and a large portion of these protestors, are hiding behind the plight of the Iraqi people in order to further their own political agendas. I only see the leaders of the US, the UK and Australia sticking their necks out to help their cause.



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineNASA737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

Mirrodie > http://www.wnbc.com/news/1981040/detail.html

User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

$5 million in police overtime for these thugs...I mean, middle class moderates *cough*. How many meals could $5 million provide for starving children? How many textbooks could it provide to schools, right there in New York, that face budget cuts? How many scholarships for minority youths could a $5 million endowment provide, year after year? How many DFS caseworkers, pulling abused children out of their abusive homes, would it put back to work? And they bitch about not being fed and watered after doing everything they possibly could to get the left wing nut badge of honor...a protest arrest?! Sheesh........



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Cwapilot wrote:

"are you telling me that potential humanitarian concerns override the humanitarian disaster that is occuring as we speak....the one which will end only when Saddam is gone?"

Just because Iraq has caused major humanitarian disasters doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about one; why risk the lives of US troops and Iraqi civilians right now if a war doesn't have to be imminent? I'm no pacifist; in fact, I supported the war against terror in Afganistan (direct self-defense) and the air war in Serbia/Kosovo (prevention of genocide, limited conflict with limited aims, weaker opponent who was actively destablizing a large part of Europe, less possibility of disastrous consequences...), but I don't think that we should go to war with Iraq now, for the reasons I've outlined.

"What political consequences?"

1.) Potential instability in the Middle East as our "allies" such as Saudi Arabia get destabilized by Muslim extremists angered by the West's military involvement in the region. 2.) An increase in terrorism by those same individuals and groups. 3.) A possible fragmentation of Iraq (could happen with its minority populations).

"Military consequences?"

1.) A potentially drawn-out war with massive casualties among US troops and Iraqi civilians. 2.) Possibly years of expensive peacekeeping in a fragmented Iraq.

Let's hope that these things don't happen, but I'm not convinced that they are that unlikely.

"why not consider the consequences of allowing Saddam to keep going as he is going, with ineffective inspections once every 12 years when an American President with resolve is actually in office"

But, then again, if we have been able to contain him for 12 years, why the rush to war now?


25 Post contains images LH423 : Was that on your protest sign, or were you there more out of your spite for Bush and his health care policies Actually, I had to work last weekend, ho
26 Post contains images PHX-LJU : "$5 million in police overtime for these thugs...I mean, middle class moderates *cough*. How many meals could $5 million provide for starving children
27 Cwapilot : Since when did the right to protest peacefully involve having to have the entire police force on alert? Well, you know the answer to that......
28 Cwapilot : And beating a poor horse? Tsk tsk!
29 David B. : DUring any protest, the police are always on guard.
30 Cwapilot : "But, then again, if we have been able to contain him for 12 years, why the rush to war now?" --So, as long as the brutality and oppression doesn't sp
31 PHX-LJU : Since when did the right to protest peacefully involve having to have the entire police force on alert? Well, you know the answer to that...... Well,
32 PHX-LJU : In response to... "2.) Possibly years of expensive peacekeeping in a fragmented Iraq." ...Cwapilot wrote: "--A good opportunity for Europe to pay its
33 NASA737 : Since when is peacekeeping "dirty work?"
34 PHX-LJU : "Since when is peacekeeping "dirty work?" I referred to "years of expensive peacekeeping in a fragmented Iraq." If that's not dirty work, I don't know
35 PHX-LJU : In response to: "But, then again, if we have been able to contain him for 12 years, why the rush to war now?" ...Cwapilot wrote: "So, as long as the b
36 GDB : Up to 2 million marched in London last Saturday, like it or not, they did not fall into the rather simplistic categories mentioned, a tiny minority ma
37 We're Nuts : One hundred thousand Frenchmen can't be wrong.
38 Mx5_boy : Jcs17, You really are a poor representative of your country? Everyone in a democracy is entitled to their opinions whether they be misguided or not. Y
39 Heavymetal : I agree with JCS, and I am a uniformed member of the armed forces. Maybe I'm a true loser? I had always hoped the 58,000 members of the armed forces w
40 Alpha 1 : Once again Alpha1 swallows his foot and leg. While he might support the United States in somethings, when it comes to politics, Alpha, Nutsy, and Smal
41 Post contains images Sebolino : They wrongly think that Marxist regimes are all peaceful, and that people like Lenin and Marx are against death and indescriminate killing I guess tha
42 Ovelix : May I start another thread called "The Losers At The Pro-war Protests" and include this category? Ignorant war-mongering childs who have no idea what
43 Manni : 'Today you humiliate 10 million people who marched worldwide against war and against Saddam' No he didn't, who cares what this teletubie thinks. Atlea
44 Pacificjourney : OK JCS17 time to fess up, this is a joke right ? Just trying to goad people into predictable responses right ? ...... ....... No ! You're serious ? Wo
45 Jcs17 : LH423 writes: I listen to Céline Dion and Kylie Minogue No comment. But I guess because I support, cheap healthcare to every American, I guess I must
46 Arsenal@LHR : I can't speak for other cities, but in the London march there were over 1 million people from all races and religions, men, women, children, old, youn
47 KAUSpilot : You want to know a BIG reason why saddam felt like he could invade Kuwait in 1991? He was watching CNN just like everyone else and saw the thousands o
48 Andreas : Quote: Name a purely socialist government that has been successful (don't name France, Germany, Sweden, etc. because they have capitalist elements). O
49 Heavymetal : You want to know a BIG reason why saddam felt like he could invade Kuwait in 1991? He was watching CNN just like everyone else and saw the thousands o
50 Heavymetal : Sorry, his occupation of Kuwait. Duh.
51 777236ER : the humanitarian disaster that is occuring as we speak Oh, you mean the HIV/AIDS crisis in Africa? The malaria crisis?
52 KAUSpilot : Heavy, there were a sh*tload of protests in 1991 before the US executed its mission to retake Kuwait. The critical period I speak of was between "mili
53 Post contains links and images Mirrodie : WoW At first, when this thread started, I thought, 'damn, jcs17 just pissed a few folks off.' Your generalizations are just that: generalizations. BUT
54 Ovelix : So maybe, in a sick little twist of irony the anti-war protestors were actually responsible for gulf war I. Kaus. You could use a little research befo
55 Ovelix : Kaus. before the US executed its mission to retake Kuwait How many times will we say it? It was a coalition, executing UN mandates. The other clarific
56 Yvr764 : JCS17's post is an interesting read from the standpoint that it is very well written and shows some creative ingenuity. However, no one should get too
57 Heavymetal : How much confidence do you think he gained by seeing the thousands of marchers in Washington? I am willing to bet it was a lot. So now it will be the
58 Srbmod : I honestly can't wait for the next anti-war rally here in Atlanta; I plan to be among the counter-protestors. I am not totally for war with Iraq (I st
59 Ovelix : Srb protesting the War is akin to spitting on our troops ...spitting on your government perhaps? Kostas
60 Heavymetal : (I still say we should have kicked Saddam's butt back in '91, but George H.W. Bush backed down, citing the UN Resolution didn't call for that), Watch
61 ADG : protesting the War is akin to spitting on our troops No it isn't, non violent protest is a legitimate form of getting your message through to the gove
62 NormalSpeed : I'm not saying that all the anti-war protesters are losers. Some definitely are, but that's beside the point. I would just like to reiterate the fact
63 NASA737 : protesting the War is akin to spitting on our troops No it isn't, non violent protest is a legitimate form of getting your message through to the gove
64 ADG : Actually NormalSpeed, the organisers of these protesters are GENERALLY those who are against the war, that doesn't make them *communist*. ADG
65 Toner : I'm a retired LCDR, Tailhooker, veteran of Korea and Viet Nam. I am no Communist, but I am against this planned war, and every retired officer I know
66 Dc10guy : Jsc17, losers like you get their whole meaning for life from right wing am radio talk shows... If you dare think otherwise you might be viewed as a ..
67 Jcs17 : It is a typical of the sort of thought process I would expect from a 16-20 year old without life experience, albeit very well put together and writte
68 Heavymetal : Whatever. There's a lot of talk coming from one orifi, but it ain't your mouth.
69 Yvr764 : I've decided to self-delete this post. [Edited 2003-02-18 22:52:19]
70 Ovelix : Jcs, care to REALLY answer these questions? In the end we can discuss further about your ideas. Without life experience? C'mon chief. You even referen
71 Post contains links and images Keesje : http://www.democracymeansyou.com/satire/sliced/bushkittens.htm Just felt I had to improve the level of discussion here
72 KAUSpilot : Funny how people who disagree with JCS can only hurl kindergarten level insults like "you're just a child, grow up, There's a lot of talk coming from
73 NormalSpeed : ADG wrote: "Actually NormalSpeed, the organisers of these protesters are GENERALLY those who are against the war, that doesn't make them *communist*."
74 We're Nuts : Maybe, KAUSpilot, he is an idiot, and you hurt yourself by associating with him.
75 777236ER : Hey We're Nuts! We're on JCS17's Disrespected User's list! Feel as bummed as me? And before you say anything, no I don't mean bummed in the KROC sense
76 Jaysit : And the winners I suppose were the usual arm chair soldiers sitting on their duffs waving their flags in support of Bush as they glug yet another cold
77 Dc10guy : I used to be a pot head ... Does that still qualify ??? I like the PETA guys too... You failed to mention the rainbow collation. Any Liberal is better
78 Pacificjourney : Still waiting to hear where and what Mr. JCS studies at his "University". Should be enlightening if not amusing. My money is on one of the girly subje
79 Marcus : 7) Militant African-Americans and Latinos. ************************************** Look out Jcs17 us beaners are out to get you!
80 Jcs17 : I used to be a pot head ... Does that still qualify ??? I like the PETA guys too... Your parents must be so proud. Any Liberal is better than any righ
81 Pacificjourney : U of T in Arlington, thanks for the warning. What the hell is international business exactly and why is that an undergraduate degree ?
82 LH423 : I am interested in removing a genocidal dictator from power in Iraq, like was done with Slobodan Milosevic. My oh my. How quickly we forget history. A
83 Schoenorama : I think its very sad than one, in a free country, should state one is not a Communist when critisizing Bush. As for the rest of Toners' post, I am con
84 Bigo747 : Where was these people when osama bin laden made several "old or new" tapes threats to attack US? Where was these people when Bali bombed, many Aussie
85 We're Nuts : Wait wait wait, let me get something straight. Jcs has a Disrespected Users list... and he's calling us childish? You have to be a joke, Jcs. I bet th
86 Jcs17 : llow me to refresh your memory. Slobodan Milosevic was brought out of power after groups of peace protestors (you know, the ones you're vilifying now)
87 Jcs17 : Even better! Some Communist fired me off an email...classic. This is hilarious, and the guy didnt even have the balls to include his name. I got a goo
88 Alpha 1 : The ultra liberal left will not have any legitimacy with me (or any thinking individual) Scootertrash, I doubt they'd ever have legitimacy with you to
89 Dc863 : Jcs17 too bad the pinko didn't leave his name.
90 Post contains images Vafi88 : B757-300 - YOU are yet again one of those people that generalize things just by something as small as being right or left wing. Different people have
91 Post contains images Jcs17 : You don't need to respect what is being protested-just try respecting the inherent freedom in such an act. I do respect the rights of those people to
92 Pacificjourney : Forums officially reaching new low !!! Not only do we have the narrow-minded childishness of the original thread starter to deal with but now we have
93 Vafi88 : Ok, the idiot part was just the fill, but the closed minded statement part is again shown by your last statement... You know what I said is true, but
94 We're Nuts : I'm so glad cold-war arrogance and stupidity is alive and well, aren't you, Jcs?
95 KaiTakFan : Pacificjourney, Just as you respond the forum quality gets even lower. You always have to throw in some negative, insulting comments to 90% of your po
96 Rolex01 : Johan is an Iraqi. He doesnt take showers. Thats how I can tell.
97 5280AGL : Jeezus...Is every European an ultra-liberal socialist? I don't understand it, Charles Falk seems to be the only one over there who actually "gets it".
98 We're Nuts : NO, the only purpose of these weapons is to USE THEM...The only question is, where. Indeed, where are we going to use them?
99 Pacificjourney : I think my point Mr. kaitak is that while Jcs17 may be at university as he claims but the more he speaks the harder that comes to believe. He IS a pos
100 MD-90 : PJ, you may not realize this, but you come across as being about 10 years old, with the vaunted life experience and intelligent arguments to match. I'
101 Post contains images 5280AGL : Nuts - Yeah, we will use weapons...The difference between us and the Iraq is they use theirs against civilians (ie their own people).
102 MD-90 : One more thing. Here's an excerpt from the WNBC article that bothered me greatly: Eight officers were injured, including a mounted cop who was pulled
103 Ovelix : Jcs does not want to reply to #70 post in which many questions about the subject are made? Maybe because he has no argument? Maybe because his short-s
104 Mx5_boy : Jcs says: """Great...you are piss poor representitive of your country too, with your blatant hatred of anything American. Youre bitching about Subway
105 Pacificjourney : MD-90 You are NOT a rocket scientist. You ARE a first year, possibly second year engineering student. You and the other children on here should rememb
106 ADG : Mx5, Come on mate, you *know* that if you don't lift the shirt of every American then you have an ingrained hatred of all things American! ADG
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