David B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5 Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Here is something to think about: Since there are so many people here who want to go to Iraq and "kick their asses", most of who are too old or too young to be drafted, imagine if there was a draft and your children must go and fight. The government gives you no guarantees that they will come back alive. They can't even guarantee that they will bring back a body. Would you sent them into hell? If you support the future war in Iraq, would you go fight yourself? If not, why not?
Is it easier to "kill" someone you don't know? What if you did know them? How would you feel?
Dc863 From Romania, joined Jun 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2276 times:
I was in Vietnam 1965-66. I served but if they said go I'd go. My heart goes out the young men and women in harms way. I'll support them before I support some leftist snot nosed freak calling for the end of so called US imperialism.
737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2243 times:
Because you figured it would create some stir of controversy.
Just for the record, I have not been one of the ones screaming for war. In fact, I have to listen to many knuckleheads at work that are always saying that 'we should bomb Iraq back to the Stone Age'. I hate to think of innocent civilian casualties. But the fact is that, in this day and age, few things are black and white. Sometimes, ugly things must be done to help preserve our nation's freedom and war is indeed ugly. The fact that people in our country have the freedom to speak out against the current administration and its foreign policy was bought and paid for by the blood of American soldiers. People in Iraq have no such freedom without fear of repercussion by the current regime.
My nephew just signed up for the Marine Corps and I have great respect that he chose to do so in light of the world situation. I support his decision whole-heartedly and I have the utmost respect for the men and women of our armed forces. They put themselves in harm's way so the pseudo-intellectuals on this forum (and elsewhere) will have the freedom to argue endlessly about how Bush's decisions will mean the death of us all.
I suppose you will have some brilliant reply to all of this, but I've said my piece and do not wish to have a starring role in one of these tired, neverending arguments that people on this forum try to pass off as a constructive discussion...
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2235 times:
If I am already in the armed services, of course I would fight. That would be my job.
If I was drafted, I would feel that I should do my part to defend the honor of my country, and do the best I could.
As far as sending my kids is concerned, that's a tough one. Of course you are filled with worry about what might happen. But if they were volunteers, I would, with a little reluctance, send them to do their duty with my blessings, and with my prayers.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
A lot of folks feel that technology will most certainly allow a terrorist organization to plant a very nasty explosive device in an urban area some day. Not your garden variety explosive, but one that will melt concrete; like a nuclear device. It's really hard to deny that that development WILL happen some day. Its a not an 'if', but a 'when' situation. The problem for terrorist groups today is they don't have resources to develop this type of weapon. What they need is an alliance and common goal of an established regime that HAS the resouces, facilities, capital, and capabilities to place a shroud around such development to pass along this acquired technology. Such a regime will exist some day. When it does, a certain population of people will be in grave danger. Who will they be? Who knows? When will this happen? 10 years from now? 20? 50? Who knows? But it will happen. When this does happen, I pray some other government of the world has intellegence capabilities to detect this and is able to put a stop to it before its too late. We can only hope. Now fast-forward to that time. Say a government suspects the process is happening right now; and this existing development would yield such technology, if left alone, within say 12-24 months. They would, in my opinion, have an obligation to the WORLD to do something to stop it at that moment. An obligation to stop it even if a few other governments of the world doubt their suspisions, because as you can imagine, any wrongful doubt would be horrifically catastrophic to all of us. Well, any citizen of this government that is called upon to provide service toward the effort to put an end to this threat would have no qualms about providing it considering whats at stake.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2168 times:
1. If I were of draft age, I wouldn't hesitate to go if i were drafted, trained properly and ordered to go. That goes with the territory.
2. I cannot and will not speak for a child that is 18 years old, and must make their own decision on being drafted/sent into harms way. I would hope they would do the honorable thing and serve their country, but it would be up to them, not to me.
Advancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
Well, I am thinking many here in the forum have
misunderstood the question and view only one
side of the equation baring the current Iraqi
situation in mind.
However, I think the question would have
looked a lot better if it were asked like this:
Would you like to go, work and live in Iraq
when/if the sanctions are lifted?
I would say, why not? Before 1990 many
non-Iraqis lived and worked there and had
no problems at all. Iraq used to have a healthy
economy that was thriving mainly on its
petro-wealth. If the sanctions were lifted,
Iraq would probably prosper again in a matter
of a few years to come.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
Advanced, I'm certain David B. was asking if we would go and fight in Iraq if our respective countries asked us to. Your question is different. Its an interesting question nonetheless, but it needs clarified. Do you mean live there as a foreigner working or as an Iraqi citizen? I wouldn't want either, but especially being a citizen. Imagine living in a society with zero freedoms and threat of imprisonment or death for your thoughts. No thanks. I'd rather be homeless in America.
I LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2110 times:
I am of draft age and if I am drafted or even have the slightest chance of being drafted, I would go serve my duty for my country. If I understand that I have a shot of being drafted I might even go enlist for OCS and to get into the Air Force and have the opportunity to fly the planes that will take care of the axis of evil countries.
B747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
If I was of drafe age, and I was drafted, I would go because I support the war, and because it would be my civic duty to fight for my country. Right now I am even considering the Air Force Academy, and then I would have to go anyway.
Wow, these responses really blow your thread out of the water. Of course we people who are for the war know what it entails. Anyone who said they wouldn't go would be a hypocrite, and everyone knows Republicans aren't hypocrites. At least the good ones.