David B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1086 times:
Here is something to think about: Since there are so many people here who want to go to Iraq and "kick their asses", most of who are too old or too young to be drafted, imagine if there was a draft and your children must go and fight. The government gives you no guarantees that they will come back alive. They can't even guarantee that they will bring back a body. Would you sent them into hell? If you support the future war in Iraq, would you go fight yourself? If not, why not?
Is it easier to "kill" someone you don't know? What if you did know them? How would you feel?
David B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1076 times:
Dc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1554 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1063 times:
I was in Vietnam 1965-66. I served but if they said go I'd go. My heart goes out the young men and women in harms way. I'll support them before I support some leftist snot nosed freak calling for the end of so called US imperialism.
737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 48 Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1048 times:
Gee Dave, I guess the above responses kinda deflate your inflammatory post, huh?
David B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1044 times:
Gee Doc. How was my post inflammatory? Please explain.
Omegous From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 293 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1043 times:
I tried to sign up for the USAF but due to some physical limitations, I wasn't able to join.
But I was as far as one could go! I'm more than willing to fight and defend.
737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 48 Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
Because you figured it would create some stir of controversy.
Just for the record, I have not been one of the ones screaming for war. In fact, I have to listen to many knuckleheads at work that are always saying that 'we should bomb Iraq back to the Stone Age'. I hate to think of innocent civilian casualties. But the fact is that, in this day and age, few things are black and white. Sometimes, ugly things must be done to help preserve our nation's freedom and war is indeed ugly. The fact that people in our country have the freedom to speak out against the current administration and its foreign policy was bought and paid for by the blood of American soldiers. People in Iraq have no such freedom without fear of repercussion by the current regime.
My nephew just signed up for the Marine Corps and I have great respect that he chose to do so in light of the world situation. I support his decision whole-heartedly and I have the utmost respect for the men and women of our armed forces. They put themselves in harm's way so the pseudo-intellectuals on this forum (and elsewhere) will have the freedom to argue endlessly about how Bush's decisions will mean the death of us all.
I suppose you will have some brilliant reply to all of this, but I've said my piece and do not wish to have a starring role in one of these tired, neverending arguments that people on this forum try to pass off as a constructive discussion...
David B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1025 times:
There are other threads like this but you don't complain. Why?
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1022 times:
If I am already in the armed services, of course I would fight. That would be my job.
If I was drafted, I would feel that I should do my part to defend the honor of my country, and do the best I could.
As far as sending my kids is concerned, that's a tough one. Of course you are filled with worry about what might happen. But if they were volunteers, I would, with a little reluctance, send them to do their duty with my blessings, and with my prayers.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1010 times:
A lot of folks feel that technology will most certainly allow a terrorist organization to plant a very nasty explosive device in an urban area some day. Not your garden variety explosive, but one that will melt concrete; like a nuclear device. It's really hard to deny that that development WILL happen some day. Its a not an 'if', but a 'when' situation. The problem for terrorist groups today is they don't have resources to develop this type of weapon. What they need is an alliance and common goal of an established regime that HAS the resouces, facilities, capital, and capabilities to place a shroud around such development to pass along this acquired technology. Such a regime will exist some day. When it does, a certain population of people will be in grave danger. Who will they be? Who knows? When will this happen? 10 years from now? 20? 50? Who knows? But it will happen. When this does happen, I pray some other government of the world has intellegence capabilities to detect this and is able to put a stop to it before its too late. We can only hope. Now fast-forward to that time. Say a government suspects the process is happening right now; and this existing development would yield such technology, if left alone, within say 12-24 months. They would, in my opinion, have an obligation to the WORLD to do something to stop it at that moment. An obligation to stop it even if a few other governments of the world doubt their suspisions, because as you can imagine, any wrongful doubt would be horrifically catastrophic to all of us. Well, any citizen of this government that is called upon to provide service toward the effort to put an end to this threat would have no qualms about providing it considering whats at stake.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7996 posts, RR: 27 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 967 times:
I'd go right away. I wouldn't neccessarily want to, but I feel a strong obligation to.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 955 times:
1. If I were of draft age, I wouldn't hesitate to go if i were drafted, trained properly and ordered to go. That goes with the territory.
2. I cannot and will not speak for a child that is 18 years old, and must make their own decision on being drafted/sent into harms way. I would hope they would do the honorable thing and serve their country, but it would be up to them, not to me.
Advancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 929 times:
Well, I am thinking many here in the forum have
misunderstood the question and view only one
side of the equation baring the current Iraqi
situation in mind.
However, I think the question would have
looked a lot better if it were asked like this:
Would you like to go, work and live in Iraq
when/if the sanctions are lifted?
I would say, why not? Before 1990 many
non-Iraqis lived and worked there and had
no problems at all. Iraq used to have a healthy
economy that was thriving mainly on its
petro-wealth. If the sanctions were lifted,
Iraq would probably prosper again in a matter
of a few years to come.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 906 times:
Advanced, I'm certain David B. was asking if we would go and fight in Iraq if our respective countries asked us to. Your question is different. Its an interesting question nonetheless, but it needs clarified. Do you mean live there as a foreigner working or as an Iraqi citizen? I wouldn't want either, but especially being a citizen. Imagine living in a society with zero freedoms and threat of imprisonment or death for your thoughts. No thanks. I'd rather be homeless in America.
I LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 897 times:
I am of draft age and if I am drafted or even have the slightest chance of being drafted, I would go serve my duty for my country. If I understand that I have a shot of being drafted I might even go enlist for OCS and to get into the Air Force and have the opportunity to fly the planes that will take care of the axis of evil countries.
Thumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 887 times:
Lost a father in one war,I have flown in combat in two conflicts and I have a son who fly's F-18 Super Hornets who is sitting over there right now! Would I go? Dam right I would!
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4530 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 851 times:
Hell no! I'm not losing a leg just so Americans can drive the SUV's than run my compact car off the road.
I LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 849 times:
Buy an SUV and you won't have that problem.
BTW if you think the war in Iraq is over oil you need to watch the news.
B747forlife From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 392 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 840 times:
If I was of drafe age, and I was drafted, I would go because I support the war, and because it would be my civic duty to fight for my country. Right now I am even considering the Air Force Academy, and then I would have to go anyway.
Wow, these responses really blow your thread out of the water. Of course we people who are for the war know what it entails. Anyone who said they wouldn't go would be a hypocrite, and everyone knows Republicans aren't hypocrites. At least the good ones.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 831 times:
I would go to Iraq, especially if I were a B-52 crew member. Those flights from Barksdale would be Hell, but carpetbombing Saddam would be a lot more fun than fighting his "army" on the ground.
Vafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 828 times:
Actually, I was seriously considering joining some part of the armed forces, but I still have a bit to goto get through my education first...and then go.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
25 Notar520AC: The only reason I would go to Iraq was if I had a well backed-up plan for an assassination on Saddam. But knowing he has doubles, is heavily guarded,
26 LOT767-300ER: "Hell no! I'm not losing a leg just so Americans can drive the SUV's than run my compact car off the road." Im afraid to touch Euro cars cuz Im scared
27 Cba: I'll modify my answer a bit. I'll go to Iraq to fight the day that Cheney and Rumsfeld's sons do the same.
28 Serge: If I had to go- I would prefer to be in the air never seeing the faces of the people you actually bomb/kill. I guess if I was chosen to go- I would. A
29 Pilot1113: Food for thought: Those in the armed forces knew what they were getting into when they signed. They could get the call at anytime to go and neutralize
30 Advancedkid: Problem is, Iraq has not declared war on the US or any other nation, as it was the case in 1990/1991 and it's invasion of Kuawait. Now even both of th
31 JetService: Advanced, I don't think war has been declared since WWII. By your standards you are saying every conflict we've been in since was unjust. I don't thin
32 Jaysit: We don't need a draft in today's day and age (Sorry, Mr. Rangel). But given that our military is a volunteer service, the opportunity exists for joini
33 Toner: I don't think it will be much of a fight. We are the sledgehammer, Iraq is the mosquito. Splat, it's over and our men are safe. The trouble is, it's i
34 Schoenorama: To 737docter: "Sometimes, ugly things must be done to help preserve our nation's freedom and war is indeed ugly." Care to explain what inmediate threa
35 GDB: Srbmod raises an interesting point, even with an all volunteer service, the US still seems to balk at the thought of casualties, arguably that may hav
36 737doctor: (I) do not wish to have a starring role in one of these tired, neverending arguments that people on this forum try to pass off as a constructive discu
37 Sophiemaltese: My brother is on inactive reserve still. If he got called back and didn't return I'd have a nervous breakdown. I am not kidding.
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