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New WTC Design Chosen! Taller Then Original!  
User currently offlineMaxPowers From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 475 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

http://msnbc.com/news/877972.asp



NEW / KNEW), USA - Louisiana">NEW YORK, Feb. 26 — A complex of angular buildings and a 1,776-foot spire designed by architect Daniel Libeskind was chosen as the plan for the World Trade Center site on Wednesday. Libeskind’s design beat the THINK team’s “World Cultural Center” plan, which envisioned two 1,665-foot latticework towers straddling the footprints of the original towers.

The new building is planned to be taller than the trade center towers, which briefly stood as the world’s tallest at 1,350 feet.

THE NEW / KNEW), USA - Louisiana">NEW BUILDING is planned to be taller than the trade center towers, which briefly stood as the world’s tallest at 1,350 feet. Libeskind’s tower also would surpass Malaysia’s 1,483-foot Petronas Twin Towers, the tallest buildings in the world.
The choice was made by a committee with representatives of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the governor and the mayor. The committee met briefly on Wednesday afternoon and decided on the plan that was favored by Gov. George Pataki and Mayor Michael Bloomberg, according to a source close to the process.
JUICE: News was a surprise
LMDC Chairman John Whitehead telephoned Libeskind with the news, the source said, telling the architect that his “vision has brought hope and inspiration to a city still recovering from a terrible tragedy.”
Libeskind told the chairman that being selected is “a life-changing experience,” the source said.
NINE PROPOSALS TO ONE
Nine proposals for redeveloping the trade center site, where nearly 2,800 people died Sept. 11, 2001, were unveiled Dec. 18. The design competition was launched after an initial set of plans, released in July, was derided as boring and overstuffed with office space.
Redevelopment officials were scheduled to announce the decision publicly Thursday.
After the two plans were chosen as finalists earlier this month, both teams of architects were asked to revise their designs to make them more easily realized.
Libeskind, whose original design called for a memorial at the trade center foundation 70-feet below ground, reportedly changed that to 30 feet, allowing for infrastructure and transportation underneath.
The LMDC was created by Pataki and former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani after Sept. 11 to oversee the rebuilding of the trade center site and downtown Manhattan. The Port Authority owns the site.


[Edited 2003-02-27 04:45:50]

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User currently offlineDeltaASA16 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

heard it first from A.net!!! Big grin

DeltaASA16


User currently offlineNASA737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

I like it. I liked the other one better with the "ghostly" images of the former WTC but this one serves both purposes (memorial + space) very well.


 Smile


User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

Taller Then Original

Uglier too, this thing is horrid.


User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

While I think it sucks, it could be worse.

111 story Twin Towers!


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Jeez, this sucks! Doesn't anyone thing that the design for those buildings come from The Hancock Building in Chicago???



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

the final design passes my taste test. It really is the best one out of all of the big ones forwarded...and i guess many of the families were hoping for this design because it really treats the 'bathtub' pit with reverence.

Its important to remember this is really just a starting point, a prototype. The final product may look very noticable different.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Does the spire have any purpose other than to exist? Will it hold offices?


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1639 times:

I hope it's allowed to make grim humour ...

// !!!!! Attention ----> Grim humour on, don't look if you're sensible !!!!!!! ///

The soon to come A380 will take care of the new building Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin

// Grim humour off ----> Go on //


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Nuts, one of the requirements for the design was to replace the television and radio transmitters that where on top of the WTC towers. They need the height to get their signal out.

There was a proposal initially to relocate them to the old Coast Guard base in the harbor (governors Island???) but it was nixed because the Federal Communications commission stated that the antennas had to be within three miles of the original transmitter site to prevent interference to other broadcasters.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

I see, thanks for the info.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Looks like a scene from Planet of the Apes. Why do they have to build something that looks like a scrapyard?

Charles


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Shit! They´re building the ruin!!!

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

Minority opinion: I think it looks fantastic.
The original towers were notable only because the two existed side-by-side...the buildings themselves were quite ugly...certainly not landmark architecture by todays standards.



User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

It looks ok. I don't think it would be that "clear" though. Probably like that just for demonstration purposes.

I heard on the radio earlier that the shape of the tower would not cast a shadow on September 11. (Or something like that--it sounds kinda weird, but that's what I thought I heard)

Well, have fun all.  Smile
PL


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

I second what Klaus said:


This Website Censors Me
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Compared to two boring sticks, it's quite good.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Those "two sticks", as you so eloquently call them stood for everything America was all about:

Strength
Unity
Free Enterprise
Wealth

So by saying you didn't like them....what you are really saying is that you don't like the USA either.

There are no words that I can use to convey my dismay and disdain at this project.

Hate is not a word I use lightly.

But the fact that they went with this decision is something that I hate. I abhor it. I spit, shit, fart, and flip the bird on the "final" design.

If that's the way they want to do it, then I hope that they NEVER do complete it. I would rather see that whole 16 areas sitting as the World Trade Pit collecting weeds and dust-and the whole economy of Lower Manhattan go right down the Hudson than see anything other than the original Twins rebuilt.

Poor ol' Minouro must be spinning in his grave.

But who gives a shit? He's dead. And he had his time in the spotlight. Let's give a "new generation" architect some glory, right?




[Edited 2003-02-27 21:18:24]

[Edited 2003-02-27 21:25:06]

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

However much romance you associate with the twin towers now, they WERE pretty boring, you've got to admit!

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

they WERE pretty boring, you've got to admit!

Only if you're thin skinned and soft bellied, and as I already said, opposed to the US.

Their sheer magnitude by far overcame any "bordom" in their design.

Did you ever actually see them in person?

Well I did. Many times. I stood next to them. I walked on top of the obs deck. It was an awe inspiring, almost religious experience to see what Mankind was capable of achieving. Not to mention, like I said, everything they stood for.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Ok ok don't get your knickers in a twist  Sad

I was only saying...  Crying  Crying  Crying

You're mean


User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

I miss the twin towers. They were simple, and that simplicity made them beautiful, in my eyes.

The Daniel Liebskind design is... ugly. That spire has NO purpose other than to hold "gardens, all the way to the top". Its pointless. Without the spire its just another block of ho-hum boring office buildings... Just like the rest of New York. The Twin Towers were functional. From 10 floors underground all the way up to 110 stories above ground. We need something that restores the skyline, and I dont think some pointless spire does the job.




Fly Delta's Big Jets!
User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

I wouldn't say it's pointless. I mean all spire have points on top  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

Matt - I sure hope you were being Ironic!

To be honest, I prefer the old towers simply because they were sensible, whilst their downfall could have come straight from a movie, their entire existence couldn't have come out of a movie (like the new towers will be).

Freeky  Sad

I also think that, these buildings are just another set of office blocks, the tower has no purpose except to be big, therefore it is useless and a waste of money..

The new WTC won't stand out for being incredible, or huge or whatever, they will stand out because they have that giant thing next to them....


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Matt D provided us with a perfect example of the typical American circle-jerk that is so prevalent on these forums. It's disgusting.

Matt, buddy, they were buildings. You know, sometimes a cake is just a cake.



Dear moderators: No.
25 LH423 : Thanks WN. Matt, if the WTC was so symbolic of America, why was it a Japanese design? As much as we like to glorify them now that they're gone, did an
26 RoyalDutch : I personaly think they're frieking ugly..they should build something similar to the original 2..that spire is a disgrace. just my $0.02
27 PHX-LJU : I love this design; it's futuristic, yet elegant and graceful. I also like the global symbolism here; the architect, Daniel Libeskind, is a Polish Jew
28 Zauberfloete : The Libeskind Design is not that bad, I hope it will not become weaker in the process. This is now not more than a proposal for the overall design of
29 Greg : MattD....saying you don't appreciate the architecture or the original towers is hardly unpatriotic--they were, in fact, quite ugly. You can look at an
30 Matt D : The Twin Towers WERE beloved, or at the very least an attention grabbing focal point of The City. If they weren't, then there wouldn't be as many pict
31 Marcus : At the time opf their construction....the twin towers pushed the envelope of engineering and design..........this project does not look like it will d
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