Now, although these guys aren't angels I cannot believe that they are being beaten to death. What kind of interrogation tactics are being used? I hope whoever is responsible will be brought to justice.
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 41 Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1690 times:
First of all, this was Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, not camp X-Ray. Secondly, if you cared at all to read your own article you wouldve read this:
"One of the dead prisoners, known only as Dilawar, died as a result of "blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary artery disease", according to the death certificate signed by Major Elizabeth Rouse, a pathologist with the Washington-based Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, which operates under the auspices of the defence department. The dead man was aged 22 and was a farmer and part-time taxi-driver. He was said to have had an advanced heart condition and blocked arteries. "
Sonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1631 times:
Alpha 1, oh yes they are scumbags just because they fought for their country? Would you think that if now Iraqis would capture American troops it would be right to beat them to death? BTW, Americans would be offensive force in this case, while Afghans defended their nation from invadors. Most of them had nothing to do with Al Quieda or terrorism. They were simple patriots, who tried to defend their country after it was attacked.
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1600 times:
allow me to go Off Topic for a minute...
I like these words, it reminds me on some sitcom shown on television several years ago. That one of a little brown animal from space. Somehow I must think of Alf sitting behind a PC every time I read Alpha1's post.
Scorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 4965 posts, RR: 46 Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
Sebollino, save your piousness for two human beings who deserve it. These scumbags don't. They had no reservations about murdering my countrymen, and I have absolutely no sympathy for them. None.
These were prisoners, they had not yet been tried and thus had not yet been found guilty. It should therefore be PRESUMED that they were innocent, after all your justice system says that people are innocent until proven guilty.
This does not mean that I think these people actually WERE innocent, they very well could have been guilty. But I don't know that, and neither do you, which is why I find your post quite offensive for someone who supposedly is defending freedom. You are acting the exact opposite of what you preach. Torturing prisoners is wrong in any case, including this. No exceptions.
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1569 times:
"Stop hiding behind some bullshit morality "
Are you talking to yourself? Do you see the staggering irony of you accusing anyone hiding behind bullshit morality? Do you realize that there is a thread cheering on the assault on John Walker Lindh? No probably not. Your contempt for the US is blinding.
"Odd that you and others sholuld be so sensitive over a word yet have no problem with "
What in the hell are you talking about? You are the first person here to use racial ephithets and now accuse others of using it"
Pacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2699 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1552 times:
America ... France ... what have they to do with this ? Stop clouding the issue by making it an anti-american issue when it is simply one of right and wrong.
Alpha1 and others calmly wish death and misfortune on others whose only "crime" is that they have brown skins and speak Arabic or Urdu. As I have pointed out they have had no trial, there is no presentation of evidence. If they were white americans you would not so automatically trust your government to be so honest and fair (or perhaps you might).
yes, I have a problem with this weather it is America or Denmark. Don't you ?
Yes I have read that other thread and if you had done the same you would have seen my opinion stated on that one as well. I suggest you look again and read before writing.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1531 times:
Odd that you and others sholuld be so sensitive over a word yet have no problem with - even wish for - people being beaten, assaulted or even killed in your own prisons.
Stop hiding behind some bullshit morality over mere words and face the fact that were these middle-aged white guys then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm not taking any morality issues with you. I just like to rag people like you who think their self-proclaimed righteous ideals allow them to say the same shit they constantly howl about others saying.
As for your white-guy comment; that's laughable. If McVeigh were alive and being raffled off for a carton of smokes to end up being some dirtbags pin-cushion, we'd be yukking up just the same. Sorry, race isn't trump. Try another card.
Pacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2699 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
If believing that people should have a trial and a public presentation of evidence (like Mr. McVeigh did) before arm-chair tough guys on sites like this wish bad things to happen to them then yes, guilty, I am a righteous idealist.