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9/11 Memorials Destroyed By Anti-War Protesters  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html

LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up flags, flowers and patriotic signs at a Sept. 11 memorial that residents erected on a fence along Whittier Boulevard days after the terrorist attacks in 2001 and have maintained ever since.

However, although officers witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, police did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday.

"For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent,' he said.

Rees said in order for police to take any action, the owner of the fence would have to file a complaint.

Jeff Collison, owner of The RV Center in La Habra, who has allowed residents to add patriotic symbols to the fence on his property, said he just might do that.

"Their free speech stops at destruction of private property. If they are allowed to come on my property and burn flags, does that mean I can go to City Hall or the police station and light their flags on fire because that is freedom of speech? To me, this is vandalism,' Collison said.

Some residents Monday hung signs criticizing those who destroyed the display.

Tracey Chandler, a Whittier mother of four who has maintained the spontaneous memorial since it was created by other area residents soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, said she was shocked by the destruction.

"They trashed 87 flags, ripped 11 memorial tiles made by myself and my children out of the ground and glued the Bob Dylan song to a sign that said, 'America, land of the brave, home of the free,' ' she said.

The Bob Dylan song she referred to is "With God on Our Side,' an antiwar anthem of the 1960s.

"It's unbelievable, because there were absolutely no political messages on this fence. It was all about supporting our troops, which could mean bringing them home, and about remembering 9-11.'

Les Howard, a sociology professor at Whittier College, said the incident might be an indication of some confusion among people trying to stop a possible war against Iraq but uncertain how to express their sentiments. However, he said he does not condone the destruction of symbols important to those who erect them.

"Some think (the best way to support the troops) is to not question their role. Some think the best way is to pursue all means possible to avoid putting them in danger,' he said. "That still does not excuse any desecration of people's symbolic participation.'

Chandler said she plans to rebuild the Sept. 11 memorial.

"We are going to rebuild this memorial, and it will be brighter, bigger and better than ever,' Chandler said.
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What a bunch of arrogant assholes.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8269 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

I agree 100%. That's not freedom of speech at all. According to these pukes I can go blow up the USS Arizona memorial and I should be able to get away scott free, right? I mean, I'm only exercising my constitutional rights, am I not?  Yeah sure Bastards.


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User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Sounds like some of the protesters had a slightly larger agenda than pacifism.

User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Kill 'em all. Iraq first, liberals next. We'll put em in camps!

User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

This is totally out of hand. The actions of these protestors are no better than people who throw rocks and do physical harm to people going to abortion clinics. Their actions are misguided and unpatriotic. Too bad they weren't jailed.

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

These people got another thing comming


Go big or go home
User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

However, although officers witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, police did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday.

This statement by the police is false. The people who erected the memorial received permission from the owner of the property, while those who destroyed it did not. It seems the police are a bit confused about the notion of "private property"

Pete


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Need I say this is California?

TechRep


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

"9/11 Memorials Destroyed By Anti-War Protesters"

(lehpron sighs)

By the title alone, and no I did not bother reading, it seemed obvious to me that [some of] these people are going too far. I already do not see how 9/11 is even related to our pending war, so I am beyond confused by the significance of destroying anything. Like those stupid atheists who destroyed a thousand year old stone statue of Buddha just to prove their point, whatever bullshit it was.

I feel too sick...I'm...I'm stopping right now before I flame someone for 'defending' that type of protest, which it is not, cuz it's not what protesting is about, it's just STUPID!  Pissed

Jcs17, you have my full support to beat them with dull knives.

(lehpron now wonders if he can issue Darwin awards personally...)

I was serious with that comment, there weren't any emoticons next to it.



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Dear Heavymetal,

Though i am in rage about such vandalism, i come back to your comment:

... Kill 'em all. Iraq first, liberals next. We'll put em in camps


I think this says all about you: A Childbrained adult who belongs to a jail rather than a airliner forum.

Rgds


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Amir habibi Heavy was being sarcastic. If anything he is anti-war!


Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Typical Californian Liberal behavior.

California has a lot of problem people that are unfortunatly giving ideas to other social malcontents in the rest of the world.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

Hi Marco:

oh... then i stand corrected! Thanks for opening my eyes this morning.,..

Best regards
Amir


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

If this had happened in Alabama, those three would've been lynched.



I agree 100% with Jcs17


















(that was a joke, y'all)


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

What appalling behaviour.




ADG


User currently offlineGD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

What a bunch of dispicable bastards! And that chief of Police dares to call himself a cop! He should be thrown in jail along with those protesters! Some people make me sick!  Pissed

-GD727



Mmmm forbidden donut.
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

I'm totally anti-war and have protested it in my community. However, this is uncalled for, and hurts the efforts of us showing our opposition to government policy.


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Well, come on, shouldn't this qualify as a hate crime? How many minorities died in the 9/11 attacks? These people have stooped to KKK tactics (as the liberals always do, yet see fit to hold themselves above it at the same time), and their crimes should be treated in the same way. Let's get a little consistent! And the thought that anyone (heavymetal) regardless of political leanings, would seek to defend something like this is incomprehensible. It goes to show how much the expressions of patriotism and unity post-9/11 really got under the skin of the left. Now, they think, they are finally justified in doing what they have wanted to do all along. After all, all of the flags and memorials did nothing but make some of them (according to a couple reports I read in the weeks after 9/11) want to vomit.

We disagree on a lot of things, which only makes us stronger. However, this should be considered sacred ground. It is akin to the liberals spitting on, beating up and pelting with whatever they could find, the troops returning from Vietnam. They did it in the name of "peace", ignoring the ordeal those men went through...yet, today, these same people want us to remember the "lessons of Vietnam" and respect those very same troops they spat upon when we consider conflict with Iraq. I really, really wish those who seem to jump on bandwagons and form their opinions based on some of the tripe that is posted on this forum, think about those with whom they are actually casting their lot.

The short of it is, these people sicken me. Over 3,000 people die in a single day, doing nothing but going to work to support their families, others rushing in to save lives at the expense of their own, and a simple memorial in their honor can't even be respected, or, at the least, even left alone. There is no way to defend that, and those that try need to have their heads examined.



Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
User currently offlineJanne From Sweden, joined Sep 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

"Anti-War protesters"?
Of course these people should be thrown in jail. This is like going to a
churchyard and throw the tombstones over. Showing the uttermost
disrespect for the totally innocent victims. What has this criminal act
got to do with "protesting against the war"?



User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

Need I say this is California?

Typical Californian Liberal behavior.

***

What bullshit comments. If you're going to argue a point, try and put some thoughts into your posts. But those two, geez, give me a break.



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