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User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

What is the reason for some members of Parliment to stand up after a miniter has spoken....
is it like raising your hands to be called on to ask the next question or is it a sign of support (like applause)?

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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

The MP is trying to catch the eye of the Speaker in order to be called to speak - not necessarily next, but at some point during the debate.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

Thanks Banco....
The Parliment is fun to watch. Especially with the jeering and heckling...kinda like a pub.
Parlimentry system is definitely more challenging for the politicians. You've got to be quick on your feet. Guys like George W. or Dan Quayle would be "very interesting to watch" in a parlimentry system.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

I was watching it today, and it is very entertaining as well as instructive. Here you have a chance for people to debate properly - no time constraints (a speech can be one word as well as 100,000). Much better than seeing some guy drone on and on on CSPAN.

Charles


User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

Mhsieh did you realise that the two red lines on the floor of the chamber are 2 1/2 swords lengths apart so that the MPs can't kill each other! If you think our parliament is colourfull you should see the Australian parliament when the debates really kick off!


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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1035 times:
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You're not alone, i love watching a Parliamentiary session, especially PMQ's (Prime Ministers Questions). The howling and laughing sometimes cracks me up aswell. Big grin



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User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

I watched PM Blair on TV today and view Parliament every so often on CSPAN. A true joy to watch.
I imagine a BS'er would be torn to shreds.



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

If you see a large Black Labrador dog lying at the feet of the government benches, it's not some odd, arcane tradition.
The Home Secretary, David Blunkett, has been blind since childhood, and it's his guide dog!

I got the chance to sit in the public gallery for Prime Ministers Questions in June 1999, (a friend's dad works for the Labour Party), but Blair was away trying to keep the Northern Ireland Peace Process on the road, and the then opposition leader, William Hauge, was not there either.



User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

There ARE time constraints to stop individual members taking forever and buggering up the debate. That is called "filibustering". The Speaker controls it all - the fat guy at the top with the black gear on. He's also an MP.

The whole thing is antiquated with an antiquated voting system but better TV than all the soaps put together. When you actually go there, it is surprising how small it is - there arent enough seats for all of the MPs.

Scotty


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

Easily fixed Scotty, reduce the excessive amount of Scottish MP's, compared to the population!

Joking aside. the Labour benches were really overfilled with people, quite a bit of standing room only due their unusually large majority .


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

I'm with you GDB.

I'd pull them all out. Why should Scottish MPs vote on matters which are nothing to do with them? All they are doing is picking up fat pay cheques for doing feck all.

And if the composition of the Commons reflected accurately the voting trends in the country, there would be no need for Labour MPs to stand, because there would be less of them.

Scotty


User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 988 times:

Can you imagine the "fun" MP's would have had if Clinton was the PM with the Monica-gate scandal??
Maybe he would have been booted with a no-confidence vote?
On the other hand, maybe the British are more tolerant of these sort of "personal issues" than the "puritanical" Americans.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 984 times:

They never used to be, but are now, due in part I think to what happened under John Major.
Beset by economic and political problems, the PM told the annual Tory conference in 1993 that he wanted a return to 'back to basics', a sort of moral crusade.
He says he did not mean personal sexual morality, but the press uncovered many Tory MP's shagging away outside marriage, when they were also ministers, they often were pressured into resigning.
Only last year, in a twist to the story, it emerged that Major himself had an affair before becoming PM, with Tory MP Edwina Currie, she left parliament after losing her seat in 1997, 10 years after the affair, to write 'racy' political novels and her memoirs.
But now the public are more tolerant, shortly after coming to power in 1997, Labour Foreign Secretary Robin Cook had an affair with his secretary, left his wife, divorcing her to marry the secretary, he kept his job.



User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 977 times:

I think its a much better way to raise the speakers attentiion.

In India, they have been known to throw the microphones!
Tch! Tch!

-Roy


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 952 times:

Incidentally, the fact that the chamber is too small for the number of MP's (it seats about 400, there are over 650 MP's) is quite deliberate. It was Churchill who decided this when the Commons was rebuilt after the war (It sat in the House of Lords during the war) because it was felt the atmosphere would be better.

As for PMQ's, they are absolutely vital to the survival of the Prime Minister. A poor performer will be torn to shreds so they spend a great deal of time rehearsing possible questions and answers. You could argue that this is hardly the proper priority for a Prime Minister, as it takes around a day to do so, but the chance to directly quiz the head of government is very important.

Even so, around half the questions put are likely to be "planted" by the government to allow the PM to slag off the opposition. A a result, it is often more of a test of the Leader of the Opposition than the PM.

PMQ's are not even particularly old. It was the middle of the last century before they became something approaching what we have now, the likes of Pitt and Gladstone never had to go through the ordeal.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 934 times:
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Most of the time, Blair shines when it comes to PMQ's, Duncan Smith just can't seem to rattle Blair no matter how hard he tries.



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 923 times:

I was fortunate enough to get on a tour of Parliament in October...the House of commons chamber is extremely small...much smaller than my school gym, I was fairly shocked at that...compared to the House chamber at the Capitol Building in DC which is bigger...even the State Capitol building in Harrisburg, its House chamber dwarfs the House of Commons chamber...

Greg



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 905 times:

As I say, it's deliberate. Incidentally, you were very lucky to get a tour, getting in to Parliament is not that easy even for us Brits, your MP has to get you an invitation.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 895 times:

One of the great parliamentarians of today is Labour MP Dennis Skinner, a former miner and MP since 1970.
Though on the far left of Labour and never been a minister, he has by far the best attendance record in the house, never missing anything, always ask questions, (though very critical of New Labour, he reserves his considerable bile for the Tories), always sits in the same seat too.
He can be mocking, sarcastic, penetrating and plain funny, he always gets returned with a thumping majority in his constituency of Bolsover, (he's nicknamed 'the beast of Bolsover')

In today's careerist world, there are not many like him left, whatever you think of his politics.


User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 893 times:

How much money does a British MP make?
Is it considered a "full-time" job? Or do some of them have another career on the side?


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 892 times:

Banco

Access to the oublic gallery is open to anyone, although there are horrendous queues. If you want to get into the Lobby area, thats when you need an invite from your MP (if you can drag him/her away from the bar)

Scotty


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8197 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 887 times:

The best parliment is Taiwan. They go absolutely MENTAL, one time I happened to watch, a fight broke out preceded by an MP taking of his shoes and throwing them at an opponent.

GDB, your story of your visit to Westminster was very moving. Thank you.



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User currently offlineMhsieh From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 878 times:

Taiwanese people have been deprived of democracy until very recently so there are some outrageous antics used.
It may seem a bit like a circus but it's all part of "progress". It's also quite entertaining.


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 876 times:

I've got an idea.

How about we all post some pics of our parliament/congress/whatever building and also the chamber/congress/house/senate whatever?

Should be interesting.

Here's mine:

Whole thing cost approx $1.2 billion and was completed in 1988. Atop of it stands one of the world tallest (and most expensive) flagpoles. The parliament is so large that it required an entire post(zip) code. It extends 5 floors below the ground and contains secure locations for parliamentary members. It is also reported that a secret military bunker lies deep within the parliament.




Senate:



House of Representatives:



Can't wait to see the parliament of others Big grin

QANTASFOREVER


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 875 times:
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An MP is a full time job, i don't know of any MP's with secondary jobs although some might have other business interests etc. The pay is good, an MP usually earns between 40,000 and 55,000 pounds a year plus bonus's and other perks.



In Arsene we trust!!
25 Hkg82 : The way all the MPs go "YEAH, YEAH..." collectively in agreement or "NO, NOOO" when they disagree with Blair or who ever is speaking is HILARIOUS & yo
26 Post contains links and images AC320 : okay QANTASFOREVER, I'll bite: Here's the Canadian Parliament... Speaker of the Senate's office Hallway Library Senate House of Commons More photos he
27 GDB : Interesting that the Canadian one retains the British 'adversarial' layout, said to encourage an aggressive atmosphere, while the much newer Australia
28 Seb146 : I have not had cable for some time, so I have not been able to watch British Parlement goings on. But one question I have always had is: When the PM s
29 Post contains images NoUFO : Nice idea Qantasforever. Here's the Reichstag building which accommodates the Bundestag/Parliament. Outside: ... and inside: The Bundesrat is the link
30 Eg777er : This basically means "I just answered that question you moron" in a slightly more polite way............ (Members of your party are 'My right honourab
31 Scotty : The PMs questions always take the format of "Can the PM inform the house of his intentions to visit my constituency" or some innocent question like th
32 Banco : The whole "honourable" thing goes further than that. With the caveats that Eg777 put in for party allegiance, you also have "my honourable and learned
33 SKYSERVICE_330 : **WARNING WARNING!!..THIS IS IS A JOKE, DO NOT GET OFFENDED! I REPEAT, DO NOT GET OFFENDED** _________________________________________________________
34 Post contains images Banco : Yours or ours, Skyservice? Why would anyone take offence?
35 Post contains images Scotty : The Scottish Parliament came back into existence in 1999, after an absence of almost 300 years, being "suspended" in 1707. Obviously things have chang
36 Post contains images Cedarjet : [Edited 2003-03-15 22:51:50]
37 Post contains images SKYSERVICE_330 : ROFL- I guess it could stand true for both. Why would anyone take offence? Well, One thing I have learned on here is that people love to take somethin
38 Arsenal@LHR : No one takes offence to any of the jokes in the House of Commons, sometimes it can get heated with a few strong jokes and comments, but you have to be
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