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The New A8L  
User currently offlineAmerican757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 475 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1436 times:

What do you think of the new Audi A8, Its exterior is sooooooooooooooo much better looking than the old one, the current model is so boring. The new interior is very nice too, I like the new navigation unit. So what do you think of the new A8, I dont really understand how to post pictures of it, so if somebody could.

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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Here you go:










User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Hmmmm...look at that important looking round dial on the centre console....hmmmmmmmmmmm!

User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Oh no! Not another i-Drive.

The car really looks like a big A4, very very similar, apart from the rear.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

From magazine reviews here, the A8 MMI (that's what their i-drive is called) is easier than BMW's approach. I don't think the I-drive is too complicated, though.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

Welcome back AA757. Glad you like cars other than the Mercedes (which is also very nice).

To me, the new A8 could have been more adventurous in the styling. I almost prefer the old design, but there aren't many differences. I'm looking forward to the next A6 which is supposed to be a knockout style-wise. For some clues as to what the next A6 might look like, I present you the Audi Nuvolari Quattro Concept. Keep in mind, it's a concept car, so it's more "out there" than a production car would be.







Audi is on a roll currently. They are producing very appealing products with exceptionally high levels of fit and finish. They need to work on their overall reliability, but that's unfortunately the case with the other German manufacturers these days. But they still produce solid, long lasting cars, and overall the major components (engines, transmissions, chassis) are top notch.

The new A8 is also on the same platform as the VW Phaeton, is much lighter thanks to aluminum construction, and also has the new air suspension. Can't wait to see the S8!!!



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

oh hell, every Audi looks the same now.

Looks like a A4L

except for the rear lights, jeez, I hope an updated A6 seperates their lineup a little bit.

George



They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

What a beautiful car. Grrrr...  Big grin

Audi has come a long, long way since the days of the Fox, the 100LS and even the early 5000S. I'm glad they survived that ridiculous unintended acceleration scandal (mostly due to people not knowing which pedal they were stepping on!) to become the leading edge marque they are today.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

In a recent survey by I believe one of the German car magazines, Audi beat BMW in most categories in terms of driver's preferences. In fact, Audi's A4 has been selling exceptionally well in the market where the BMW 3 series is considered the leader. I think with BMW losing some focus lately, and Audi really improving their quality and styling, and intruducing sportier cars, they are becoming the new BMW, while BMW is becoming a German Buick! Ok, I know that's harsh, but I like to call the BMW 745i the BMW Roadmaster.  Big grin To be fair, you can call it the BMW Roadmaster T-Type (Superfly, what ever happened to the Buick T-Type cars, the last I can remember was about 15 years ago with the Lesabre coupe T-Type).




"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

"In fact, Audi's A4 has been selling exceptionally well in the market where the BMW 3 series is considered the leader. "

I think that has something to do with the fact that the new BMW designs are nauseatingly ugly.



Just my $0.02 + Tax

FSP


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

I think that has something to do with the fact that the new BMW designs are nauseatingly ugly.

The current 3 deffinatly isn't.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

It's really only the A4 that has been very successful, and that's against the current 3, which is really an exceptional car. Let's see how the new A8 does, and also, how the next A6 does against the next 5 series.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAmerican757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

I have decided I dont like its new steering wheel, its sorta, idk i just dont like it. I like the 7 series steering wheel better than that one. But the rest of that 7 series sucks. I was checking it out at the auto show a few weeks back and it was so nasty. P.S. I got to ride in the S500 last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was so happy.

User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

I had the pleasure of visiting the VIP-A8 stand at the British International Motor Show in November.

The A8 is an amazing machine. As for the MMI, they had a mock-up where one could use it. Very easy and quick to use, in total comparison to BMW's horrendous I-Drive. The Audi system uses 'shortcut' buttons to move quickly to particular tasks, totally unlike BMW yet much simpler to use.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

No, the current 3-series is nice, I'm just talking about BMW's weird designs from the 745i onwards. I think the cars are hideous. I hope they keep the current M5 the way it is for some time...

I, personally, will always love the pre-2002 A4 design (such as the 2001, for example). I think that is one of the greatest and more original car designs, ever.


FSP


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

FSP, I see what you're saying. The previous A4 had a character all its own. I like the new A4 a bit better (it's newer too), but it's a little bland by comparison. I think the same regarding the new A8, a little bland compared to what it could have been. I'm waiting for the new A6 which should create a new wave of Audi excitement and bring the line into the next level. Do I see an Audi in my future???  Big grin


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineBarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

I, personally, will always love the pre-2002 A4 design (such as the 2001, for example). I think that is one of the greatest and more original car designs, ever.

Absolutely! I own a 2001 A4 and just love it! It looks beautiful and aesthetic, and the interior is top notch. I love the red-lit dials, knobs and buttons - they give the interior of the car a surreal feeling at night.



India, cricket junior and senior world champions
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

BarfBag: tell me your car is stick! If it is automatic, then I will cry  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I also would rather have the older body S4 than the new body S4. Something about the new A4 body just doesn't click with me. It doesn't have the personality that the older one did.

But I'm immensly happy with my car (TT Coupe 225). It really drives like no other. I especially love the 45 minutes drives to LAX at night, when the gauges are all lit white/red (I wish they just made them all red like the older audis), and driving over the silky smooth portion of the 91W past tustin. No traffic at that time of night, and you become one with your car  Smile


NEVER FOLLOW

FSP


User currently offlineAmerican757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

the mercedes has the most surreal feeling at night when the whole panel is lit up, the lights have this comfortable glow i love.

User currently offlineBarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

FSP: Tsk tsk.. its not 'automatic', its 'Tiptronic'! Oh, and you can have my shoulder to cry on Big grin If its any consolation the car is chipped.

I know what you mean about the night-time driving. Its incredible going down a mostly desolate road with all those little red-lit thingies around you, the engine humming smoothly and the stars visible through the sunroof  Smile

The new B6 body seems somewhat 'boxy', and doesn't seem to have the more classic shape of the B5 body (pre-2002). Moreover, the 2002- models have been facing a lot of flak with the coilpack issue. I don't suppose your TT faces the same problem, does it ?



India, cricket junior and senior world champions
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

The coilpack issue was a real PR nightmare for VW/Audi. If I had the money I'd seriously consider getting the TT VR6 coming out shortly.

But barfbag, sorry, tiptronic just wont do it for someone who wants that clutch! Call us old fashioned, but there's a real difference in driving enjoyment.  Smile But the VR6 TT will have a new transmission option, so stay tuned! Will make BMW's SMG look dated.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

lol, sorry BarfBag, I meant "tiptronic"  Smile.

Captaingomes: The VR6 TT, from what I heard, only comes in "tip-tronic"  Sad. Have you heard otherwise? I hope!




FSP


User currently offlineAmerican757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

I tried drivin a stick once, and it made sounds I had never heard before. And it was so funny that I couldnt stop doing it. My dad was making it even worse cause he was laughing too. It was great.

User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

American757: Sounds like you were destroying it, not driving it  Smile


FSP


User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Some much needed inspiration for Audi's A8 line. I have always had a special little place in my BMW heart for the S8 ever since the movie Ronin.
However, I think the design is a little unoriginal, perhaps borrowed from the A6, just like the new A4 was borrowed from the A6 design. Thats where I've lost faith in Audi these days, great cars (if they could only improve their reliability) but unoriginal.

Here's my conspiracy theory with Audi---ever notice how Audi comes out with a redesigned model about 2-3 years after BMW redesignes their models? New 3 series-new A4. New 7 series-new A8 with a "i-drive" knock off. New 5 series debuting soon-new A6 in a few years. I'm willing to bet that within 2 years the TT will be overhauled now that the new Z4 is out. Anyone else here see a trend???

BTW, American757, was that stick car a brand new CL65 Amg, or perhaps a brand new G55 Amg from the Mercedes dealership that you co-run?


Zeus01
M-Power Forever


25 Post contains links Captaingomes : FSP, the VR6 TT will have a new tranny. It is race-inspired, and very similar to the SMG tranny that you can get on the M3. Basically, it is at heart
26 Eg777er : Ahhhh.....The Golf R32.........saw a brand new example outside a very 'upscale' bar in my city on Saturday. Black and shiny and very very nice.
27 American757 : FSPILOT: thats the reason my dad let me drive it, we were getting rid of it soon anyways so he didnt care. It was old and probably didnt get a new own
28 Post contains images FSPilot747 : Captaingomes: As fast as the electronic shifting may be, I am really attatched to the clutch and stick. Something about it FSP
29 Post contains images Captaingomes : FSP, I totally agree. I've driven the tiptronic and it's a nice automatic. I'm sure this new transmission and the SMG are lots of fun too. But I'm old
30 Zeus01 : Gomes, Are you postive that the VR6 TT's shifting is going to be faster than the SMG. Although similar, its still a different system in almost all res
31 Post contains images FSPilot747 : "Don't get me wrong, I like the TT, but I hope it doesn't develop a superiority complex......" Ah...It's not a complex FSP
32 Captaingomes : No the TT VR6 wont be as fast as an M3, that's for sure. It's the actual shifts that will be quicker, due to the two clutches. Here is a quote from vw
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