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Sensation - Aziz Defects!  
User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

Reports as yet unconfirmed from Bulgaria seem to indicate that Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz has defected or has been killed in a defection attempt.

BBC et al trying to confirm

 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!

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User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Aziz was the only Christian on the Saddam regime. This was a smart move on his part, since he was able to move abroad more he had more chances to strike deals away from Saddam's prying eye's.

TechRep



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

It wasn't a smart move if he was killed in the attempt.

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

A very first notice on german news: he tried to get out of the goverment bunker and was injured.


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User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

who told you that Tarek aziz is the only christian in Saddams Regime?

Rgds
Amir


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

Chris Hitchens will be elated !
Saddam had imprisoned and killed members of Aziz's family, to keep Aziz in line with the regime's policy. Aziz was one of the few members of his government who could present a rational, sophisticated face to the world.


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Kurdish sources confirm that Iraqi deputy prime minister Tareq Aziz is in their hands and is being questioned by US intelligence officials

User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1032 times:

Andreas,

Tariq is the only Christian in Saddams Inner Circle. He is Catholic.

Qusay
President's younger son, 36. Heir apparent and a trusted confidant.He has wide-ranging powers over Iraq's military apparatus, including the Republican Guard, intelligence and internal security.
Saddam's kitchen cabinet keeps quiet

Abed Hamid Mahmoud
Saddam Hussein's personal secretary, who comes from his home town, Tikrit.


Ali Hassan al-Majid
The president's cousin is known as 'chemical Ali' for his involvement in atrocities against the Kurds.A leading participant in the 1996 family massacre after President Saddam's son-in-law, Hussein Kamil, defected to Jordan, betrayed Iraq's weapons secrets, and then returned to Baghdad.


Ezzat Ibrahim
Deputy chairman of the revolutionary command council, close to Saddam Hussein.


Tariq Aziz
Deputy prime minister, has survived as an adviser for more than 20 years. Mr Aziz was born to a Christian family in 1936. Some attribute his survival to hsi lack of a power base in Iraq, which means he presents no threat to President Saddam.


Taha Yassin Ramadan
Hawkish vice-president, one of Saddam Hussein's key foreign policy advisers.


Naji Sabri
Foreign minister and a key member of President Saddam's inner circle.

TechRep


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

Thanks...but I guess that was directed at Amir!


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Could someone post a link to a news article about this??

Greg



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 972 times:

I am inclined to believe this however, a link from CNN, MSNBC or BBC would really convince much more.... me included.


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User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 951 times:

Try this

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2003/03/19/46292-ap.html

Scotty


Asked to confirm the rumours, Nabez Rashid Ahmad, the deputy director for the KDP Sulaymaniyah branch, replied: "He's in KDP-controlled land."

He gave his location as the Irbil region, but gave no details on when, where or how the purported surrender took place.

Ismail Sayer, an Iraqi opposition figure in the Democratic Platform of Iraq also said in a statement faxed from Sofia, Bulgaria, that Aziz had given himself up.

"Tariq Aziz has escaped from Baghdad to the north region," Sayer said in a statement.

However, the KDP spokesman in the northern city of Irbil, Fawzi Hariri, said: "We've heard the reports and we don't confirm them."



User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 926 times:

CNN just reported on the rumor. There is nothing at this time to confirm this event, so treat it as nothing more than a rumor.

Remember that Aziz is a committed member of the Baath party for many, many years, and a close confident of Saddam. I find the likelyhood of his defection to be very, very low.

Charles


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 894 times:

I agree with Charles. This is a very specific rumor though. If it was a defection, I would not be surprised that the allies are keeping absolutely silent about it. Just speculating...carry on.

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 884 times:

Rumor Denied by US  Sad




"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 865 times:

Asis was seen live on TV just now, therefore it is not true.


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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 861 times:

A German TV correspodent in Baghdad has just reported that she personally saw Aziz today in Baghdad, apparently he visited the few remaining journalists there to show them that he's still with his government. The Video uplinks have been closed down in Baghdad btw.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 846 times:

The Video uplinks have been closed down in Baghdad btw.

I don't know if that will make a difference anymore. Nowadays TV reporters carry around those videophone uplinks which go directly to the satellite. Not very good quality pictures, but it works.

Charles


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 826 times:

Confusion seem to rule, anyone more than me thinks that Aziz got doubles as well?

User currently offlineAgrodemm From Greece, joined Apr 2000, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 797 times:

ABout an hour ago Tareq Aziz gave a press conference from Bagdad
It was shown on local TV.
He seemed alive and well and repeated the usual theses of Iraq.


User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 766 times:

Saw it

Thats the end of that then!!

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