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User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6198 times:

May I ask why mnay people say Fox News is not a reliable news source? I would more than like for you people that dismiss Fox news reports to give me reasons. I would like to know, because the same stuff CNN says is on Fox. I would like a reason please. Thanks!


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User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

As far as I'm concerned, FOX's news isn't flawed, but the way it's presented can be obnoxious at times.

[Edited 2003-03-24 07:14:16]

User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6198 times:

I think that there is a definite slant in media coverage. Fox slants to the right, CNN et. al. slant to the left. However, there comes a definite point where you loose credibility as a journalist if you do not report facts, and that applies to every news source. In fact, I even caught Tom Brokaw countering a clip from a war protester. "Those are the facts, ma'am" is what he said.

So, do I think Fox news is so biased that they lose credibility? No, definitely not. And the same goes for CNN, et. al., although I usually don't agree with their op-ed stuff.

Sometimes, you just can't spin.

Which brings up the point that, no matter what news coverage you are recieving, it is important to use critical thinking skills. "What are they trying to make me think, and what do they have to gain by doing so" are the criteria I use to judge. It usually works pretty well. So many people approach incoming news like sheep on pep-pills, rushing to form an opinion on incomplete information. It's better to approach things like a wise, patient, and methodical wolf.

'Speed

[Edited 2003-03-24 07:24:35]

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

As well CNN as FOX are not reliable...

Both made already their huge mistakes in the past  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6117 times:


Of course every media is trying to bend the news in it's favor. This goes for all media worldwide inclduing the famous ones.

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Rgds
Amir


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6058 times:

An example?
A French journalist was interviewed in NY, about the French position.
The FOX news "journalist" didn't agree. But instead of giving his position, he interrupted the French, saying "all what you say is wrong, you are stupid ", and then he cut the microphone of the French journalist and asked the question to a Brittish or American one.
Is it journalism or propaganda?
Teva



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User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6045 times:

Feral Fox ....propaganda? NEVER!!

The biggest problem I have with Feral is that they try to make the news instead of reporting it. Opinions which differ from the right wing conservative hardline view are not welcome, and they will interrupt and chastise anyone with a view which is different from theirs.

But hey, they are atypical of the American news media. If you want a right wing trashy tabloid type news service, then tune into Feral Fox. If you want a news service which is FAIR AND BALANCED and with NO SPIN, then I suggest you turn it over to BBC World.



User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6051 times:

Why would someone ask if Fox News is an unreliable source if they've seen it? I mean, it's SO biased (and SO low-brow) it takes my breath away. I like watching it, but not for news. It's entertaining occasionally and infuriating the rest of the time. NBC and ABC News are perhaps worse cos they are SO tame. American journalism is quite poor at the best of times, criticism of the gov't just doesn't seem to happen and I don't think it makes for a better society. At least Fox has an agenda.

I agree, if you want intelligently presented news without spin, check out BBC24.



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User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6046 times:


There is a difference between FOX and CNN

CNN may broadcast self censored materials, FOX will broadcast right wing fanatical nationalistic and even racist points of view.

I defend the right of speech. And although I think stations like FOX really stink and are a dark shadow and shameful for America, I believe they have all the right to do whatever they want.

It is up to us, the audience to listen to as much sources as possible, and then form our own opinion.

If you look at Fox news and then change to another channel, then it's not that bad.

But if you tune on Fox and then just stay there because you like what they say, then it is clear that you will never be an informed person.

The credibility of Fox is the same I give to the Iraqi state TV. Even AL JAZEERA is more credible.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6039 times:

AL JAZEERA is very balanced. It's the only Arab station that exists without any outside influence (ie the state, or whatever). That's why it is so highly respected, and why it is the station of choice for interviews with Colin Powell, Tony Blair, and of course Osama Bin Laden.


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User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6039 times:

The day after the election last November Brit Hume on Fox News actually took credit for the network in helping the Republicans in their 02 victories.

If Dan Rather or CNN did that they'd be flogged by the right wing pundits.

'Fox News' is actually the Official Bush Press Agency.



User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

Dan Rather actually did some fund raising for the Democrats. That is a bit worse than editorializing during a broadcast.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6026 times:

I saw them interview anti-war protestors in New York, and the questions they were putting were incredible. Now anyone with any intelligence knows that the arguments for this war are not clear cut, whichever view you ascribe to - it is quite simply a difficult issue. But the interviewer was openly criticising the protestors, asing "questions" like "Do you want to wait ANOTHER twelve years before taking action?" and "so you support Saddam Hussein then?". The interviewer then expressed amazement at the crowds hostile reaction to them. The simple fact is that there ARE strong arguments against this war, whch you may or may not agree with. But they do deserve airtime, and to reported respectfully and honestly.

Unbelievable. It is a flag waver pure and simple (note Old Glory in the top left hand corner), and an advocate of the war. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, everyone is allowed their opinions, but serious journalism demands a balanced approach and they don't have it.

The BBC is far from perfect, but is probably the only broadcaster to have a commitment to fair and balanced reporting written in to its charter, and of course it doesn't rely (in BBC World's case it helps of course) on funding from advertisers who may want to see a particular editorial line taken, whether overtly or not. It was notable, that during the Falklands War, the BBC was heavily criticised by the government for referring to British forces as "British" not "our". Equally, during the Kosovo campaign, the government criticised them for being too sympathetic to Belgrade. Naturally, this merely increased their reputation for impartiality and made the British Government look stupid.

As for CNN, well, I've actually been quite impressed with their relatively restrained approach, much better than in the past.



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

I have to agree with the above posts. When I am travelling abroad, I watch BBC world for the news, CNN international for the luxury hotels commercials, and (when available) FOX news for the fun....
Teva



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User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6003 times:


Must agree with the posts on the quality of the BBC coverage.

Not that I am surprised. The quality of the BBC coverage is the one that the audiences are used to. But I am certain that it is not a station that people in the US use to watch regularly.

Actually, at an Hotel in Orlando, some years ago, I noted that I could not find any non American TV station on my set. There were Spanish speaking stations, even a station broadcasting in a language that I was unable to identify, but no overseas stations.

I sure would like to know how is it now. Which foreign stations do Americans have access to ?


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5989 times:

Dan Rather actually did some fund raising for the Democrats. That is a bit worse than editorializing during a broadcast

With respect En, that's like saying a Democratic dentist is comitting a graver sin giving to his party in his off hours than not using novicaine on his Republican patients! It'a about professionalism.
I mean the Fox News boss is Roger Ailes, who ran King George the First's Presidential campaign......based on your analogy, his credibility should be somewhere down around a snake's scrotum(which it is, but thats my opinion  Laugh out loud )

There are some basic journalistic rules about editorializing. It's called gatekeeping, and Fox makes no bones about how it gatekeeps. In fact it's its biggest selling point. It's simply a fact of the media....conservatives don't want to hear data that challenges their values. Period.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5997 times:

Al-Jazerra makes Fox News look like CNN, they're so anti-Western biased. The majority of war coverage I've watched has been Fox News Channel because they seem to be doing a better job than CNN is this time, and at least their reporters didn't get kicked out like CNN's. CNN got so well-respected because during the '91 Gulf War Campaign, they were the only network that had people in the right places. Fast-forward to the '03 Campaign, Fox News (with help from UK sibling Sky News) is there, as are numerous other networks, some with virtually carte blanch access inside Iraq (Al-Jazerra, other Arab networks) in addition to CNN, the BBC, the CBC, and the major US networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox). Some of the best coverage had been on C-SPAN, which has shown live coverage from the BBC and the CBC, which don't have the American flag waving bias, and gives a different look at the war than the U.S. networks have provided.

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5999 times:

Srbmod

Do you speak Arabic by any chance?


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

I don't speak any Arabic; the only other language I know is German, and I've forgotten most of that.

User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

CNN, the clinton news network. You think Fox is biased? Look at CNN. They are so far left it makes me sick.


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User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5988 times:

Fox news is just foolish statement after foolish statement after foolish statement.




ADG


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

Staight from Central Casting. I love it.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5972 times:

I think they're all biased and they all suck. How's that?


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Srbmod, without any Arabic, how do you know what the content on Al Jazeera is like? Let me tell you, it's pretty balanced. They certainly give equal time, with regular interviews (as I said earlier) with Blair, Powell et al. Freedom of speech in the ME should be applauded, right?


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User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

"Fox news is just foolish statement after foolish statement after foolish statement."

In other words: Baaaaaahh.... baaaahhh!

(Refer to reply #2 if you don't get it)

'Speed






25 Aviatsiya : Srbmod. If you don't speak any Arabic, then how do you know what Al Jazeera is all about? What you have heard of Al Jazeera is only a small portion of
26 Post contains images Amir : Hi Scotty, i liked your question.... so many people judge al Jazeera and can't understand a word... Of course there are times when Al Jazeera is a bit
27 Post contains links and images Aviatsiya : Thanks Amir. It does surprise how much people will criticise something when they have no idea of what is being said. I wouldn't go criticising a Hindi
28 ADG : Normal The message fox sends to the world is that you are overzealous, unthinking arrogant idiots who are out for world domination. If that's the way
29 NormalSpeed : "...The message fox sends to the world is that you are overzealous, unthinking arrogant idiots who are out for world domination." That sounds just lik
30 ADG : Normal, Of course I have Normal .. in fact it may surprise you to know they run it live over here .... ADG
31 N79969 : HM, I think Rather compromised his professionalism severly by appearing and speaking at a Democratic fund raiser. I am not defending Fox News because
32 Post contains images Heavymetal : Dan Rather is paid to view events objectively and to report them. I still fail to see a connection. Jimmy Buffet is an overt Democrat in his spare tim
33 NWA : ADG, I would love examples. PLease show me what fox says that others dont, I would love to hear it!
34 Post contains images 747-451 : "Rather HAS compromised his credibility at work....many times" As has Peter Jennings, who should go back to Canada. If I want fair and objective news,
35 Heavymetal : Try it. You may learn something.
36 Post contains images 747-451 : I have tried, but it is hard wading thru the piles of gas and hypocrisy from someone who profits very well from the "corporate American Media Complex"
37 N79969 : HM. Buffett is not responsible for...anything actually. People depend on Dan Rather for information. A good portion of the news is political in nature
38 Post contains images ADG : NWA, I shall take note of the actual wording but the issue that springs immediately to mind is the Sep 01 incident where they identified businesses (n
39 NormalSpeed : "Of course I have Normal .. in fact it may surprise you to know they run it live over here ...." Nope. Just checking. Oh, and just for the record, I h
40 NormalSpeed : Oh, and one more thing: I don't think you all are using the term "feral" correctly. It means an animal that was once domesticated, but returned to the
41 Post contains images Airplay : Many will interpret this as America bashing, but here it goes.... Here in Canada I have easy access to television news from around the world. I get se
42 Hamfist : If FOX news is biased, it's only because it's about time someone came along to "correct" the almost exclusively left view of the news media in the U.S
43 Post contains images Aviatsiya : Strewth ADG, in regards to the sep, I think there must be a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock. I would try getting to the duck's guts, but I thin
44 Post contains images ADG : I guess the term "feral" just isn't as mean as you thought it was. Maybe you were going for "fecal"? No Normal, i'm talking about their behaviour rath
45 UnitedFirst : As I like to say: Fox News. We Report. We Decide. I mean hello: Bill O'Reilly? ~Derek
46 Heavymetal : Actually it's more like "WE REPORT. YOU DECIDE....ON WHAT WE DECIDE TO REPORT TO YOU". The 'leftist media' argument is so tired is laughable. If there
47 N79969 : HM, That is close to what I am saying. Network news anchors can have opinions but have no business in political activism in their free time. Like judg
48 NormalSpeed : "No Normal, i'm talking about their behaviour rather than making any reference to the name of the network .. I find it very hard to believe that any o
49 Mhsieh : Who's the hottest/ your favorite chick...I mean female newscaster on Fox News Channel??
50 Post contains images 747-451 : "747: it's childish to try and justify action by saying "but they do it". There is no suggestion that AJ is any more unbiased than Fox .." It's also v
51 Banco : Actually, N79699 (God, I have to check your bloody name every time I write that), I disagree with you on news anchors or presenters having opinions. t
52 Post contains images EA CO AS : Who's the hottest/ your favorite chick...I mean female newscaster on Fox News Channel?? Laurie Dhue, definitely!
53 Post contains images Aviatsiya : Actually Normalspeed, Feral Fox describes the whole ethos of the station down to a T
54 N79969 : Banco, Actually, you got my name wrong. Don't worry, I don't care. N79969 is a C172K Skyhawk. The plane was great to fly but a pain when calling ATC.
55 Post contains images Banco : Oh, bugger. Sorry, but I suppose it does prove my point. I agree with you, but what I'm saying is that they shouldn't even allow their opinions to cre
56 N79969 : It sounds like we are in total agreement because in reply 32, I called Fox 'crap'.
57 NWA : This is what I am talking about. None of you anti fox people have given reasons why they are not a creitable source for info, but CNN and others are.
58 Post contains links Heavymetal : America's opinions on media coverage of the war: http://www.theonion.com/onion3911/wdyt_3911.html
59 Post contains links Srbmod : Even though I do not speak Arabic, Al Jazeera's footage alone shows their anti-American bias. The footage they shot of American P.O.W.s dead and being
60 NormalSpeed : "Actually Normalspeed, Feral Fox describes the whole ethos of the station down to a T." Do me a favor: Go find a dictionary, and look up feral. You wi
61 Dc10guy : You guys are giving the US media & FOX too much credit... FOX & CNN are only looking to sell advertising that's it, any similarity to truth or accurac
62 Aviatsiya : Sorry my seppo drongo mate, but I know the meaning of the word feral. But I will show you my dictionary meaning: adjective 1. wild, or existing in a s
63 N79969 : NWA, I assume that shot was at me. I am no left-winger and am right of center on most issues. But the bottom line is that Fox is pretty jingoistic for
64 Doug_or : just turned on Fox for a minute before some guy (Cuavato?) was ranting about how all channels should be like Fox and support the war and our great gen
65 Post contains images Aviatsiya : So Doug....would you say that Cavuto is being feral?
66 NWA : CNN says channels should be like them all the time. N79969, I did not have that aimed at anyone in certin. I was making a point. This forum has this s
67 Heavymetal : CNN says channels should be like them all the time. I guess I missed that promo. Interesting fact: James Earl Jones re-records "This...is CNN" once ev
68 Galaxy5 : If you are a hardcore Democrat you probably like CNN, If your a hardcore republican you'll prefer fox, If your some where in between you'll find good
69 NWA : "I guess I missed that promo." it was a response to doug. If you think fox is the only one who says they are best at reporting, then you are off base.
70 Post contains images Heavymetal : Riggggghhht. And CNN can keep that gorilla Amanpour, right? Forget about the fact that she's probably the best field reporter in the world....she's go
71 Doug_Or : Before I turned it off the commentator (I hope he wasn't an anchor) said both shame on them in refrence to other news organizations, and that they mad
72 Post contains images NWA : "Riggggghhht." - ok, fine, call me a lier. You got me so good I dont know hat her name was, but I liked her.
73 NormalSpeed : "Colloquial to lose all self-control in an unrestrained verbal or physical attack on someone. [Latin: wild beast]" Ok, so you are just using the term
74 N79969 : I agree that there is a liberal bias in the media but because of its extreme cheesiness, Fox News makes a terrible counterweight. However, if you excl
75 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Having not read any of the replies, I'll give you my opinion. I don't think, in my mind, FOX is "unreliable". They're no less reliable the any other U
76 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Who's the hottest/ your favorite chick...I mean female newscaster on Fox News Channel?? Screw Fox. Whether I like her as an anchor or not, Paula Zahn
77 Post contains images Aviatsiya : Ok, so you are just using the term innacurately. Not according to my Macquarie Dictionary I am not. To call people idiots, morons, fascists, communist
78 NormalSpeed : "I just think it is funny you are trying to give me a lesson in Aussie slang." Oh, I'm sorry, I'll never use the exclusively Aussie word of "feral" ag
79 Post contains images Aviatsiya : Normalspeed....chill out bud...there's no need to go all feral on us
80 NormalSpeed : "chill out bud...there's no need to go all feral on us" I'm chilled, I'm chilled. I was trying to be funny. Sometimes I don't come across that way...u
81 ADG : It's also very childish to point out only Fox when there are others that are just as bad, yet only single them out. What a silly comment, read the "To
82 HUS9746 : Fox News is basiclay for people who like Mr Sharron and and other lonney Rumsfield. Raz
83 Post contains images NWA : "Fox News is basiclay for people who like Mr Sharron and and other lonney Rumsfield. "<script src="http://www.burstnet.com/cgi-bin/ads/ad2130a.cgi/
84 Gc : I've found that Sky News has the best coverage and diversity. They still have David Chater in Baghdad giving daily reports from the civilian areas as
85 Srbmod : Fox News is correct in calling Sky News a "sister network" since they share the same corporate owner, News Corp.
86 LOT767-300ER : Sky News isnt bad. I was watched it while in Europe for the past week. CNN, CNBC Europe, BBC just dont cut it. Ill watch C-SPAN and MSNBC here.
87 Teva : NWA, if you want another reason of the poor credit I give to Fox news, here is a fact: Just at the beginning of the war, Fox news was the one who spre
88 Thumper : ADG: "Fox news is just foolish statement after foolish statement after foolish statement". I think she should take a look in the mirror! Airplay: Many
89 NWA : "(remember the watergate; it was based on facts, not rumors)" WRONG! Many news channels report flase news, I am not saying that Fox does not. CNN and
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