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Saddam Gives Order To Use Chemical Weapons  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1899 times:

The Pentagon is reporting that Hussein has given the go-ahead to use chemical weapons once the troops reach a certain limit near Baghdad.

I cant wait to see the replies that say: "Well, the US troops deserve it."


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1879 times:

Some will say that Jcs, like that sick puppy Indianguy, no doubt. But I have a feeling that even some of the American detractors on here will have to finally admit that the UN was wrong, and, grudgingly, Bush was right on this one, IF this event happens.

So let me ask all those on here that loath the U.S. so much: what WILL be your response if Saddam, that cat with 9 lives, orders the use of WMD's, which many of you said he didn't have, and they're used against Allied troops? What say you then?


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1856 times:

Well, if we thought this war wouldn't get ugly and that there would be limited US casualties, it appears we were mistaken...

I for one expect Saddam to throw everything he has at the troops as they get closer to Baghdad. There is no reason to think he would do otherwise. As for WMDs, I hope for everyone's sake Iraq doesn't have them, because I'm willing to bet they will come into play as a last resort. Scary stuff.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1857 times:

I don't know what they will all say (probably some kind of spin blaming Bush, Blair, and the U.S. & U.K.) but I say we respond per U.S. policy regarding the use of WMD's against out troops.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineB747ca From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1829 times:

Maybe the coalition should hit them hard 1st before Iraq has the chance to use the WMDs.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13554 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1829 times:
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but I say we respond per U.S. policy regarding the use of WMD's against out troops.

Use of tactical nukes? Now THAT is one scary possibility. However, Saddam had been warned that this option remained on the table.

I doubt Baghdad would be a site they'd be used at, though. The Iraqis need Baghdad and its infrastructure for their future.

Now, if we're talking about troop emplacements in the desert...then that's another matter entirely.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1825 times:

*sigh*

I for one certainly hope he doesn't have them OR use them. And those of you that wish he does to prove a point are sicko's!

I reckon Il96M is right on the ball, whatever Saddam has will be thrown at the Allies. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't do it obviously haven't seen the attrocities he's launched at his own people and his disgraceful track record.

As with the unsubstantiated rumours of chemical weapons plants, murdering of POW's and such - no one should be very surprised what the Iraqui's get up to or what they find. I'd hazzard a guess and speculate that we haven't seen the worst him and his forces have to offer.

mb


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1806 times:

I will also assert that if/when it gets catastrophically ugly over there, more people will be asking why we are in this war to begin with. Well, Bush wanted it, Bush got it.  Yeah sure

User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1803 times:

"more people will be asking why we are in this war to begin with"

If they launch, Bush was right and people would know, whould they not?



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1803 times:

Wow, more distortion from the left. No one wants the Iraqis to use chemical or biological weapons. Personally, the only ones I hope we ever encounter in Iraq are hidden away in bunkers. However, if the Iraqis are crazy enough to use these, then Bush better show the balls to repay the favor.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1797 times:

To get it right. The Pentagon isn't reporting this. A CBS reporter "quoted" unnamed US officials. Again, might I draw your attention to the word propaganda. What is being done is speculation on what Saddam may have or may not have ordered his troops to do. I must be one of the few people who is getting pissed at people passing speculation off as fact.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/25/1048354587756.html

"There is an analysis that he might reserve any chemical weapons until coalition forces got closer to centre of Baghdad"

Even Colin Powell has stated that it is mere speculation at this point.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1779 times:

Interesting article, Scotty. Jcs, where did you get YOUR info? This is all speculation, nothing's been proven yet. Although I will stick by my original statement...this will most likely get VERY ugly before it's over.

User currently offlineRyefly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

It should be expected sadly. At several sites that were recently hit, gas masks have been found with the Iraqi soldiers. It's not really a smoking gun, but why else would they have them with them? Hopefully, they will find out the Iraqi plan on when, where, and how before they know we know so they can stop it before it happens.

User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Some will say that Jcs, like that sick puppy Indianguy, no doubt. But I have a feeling that even some of the American detractors on here will have to finally admit that the UN was wrong, and, grudgingly, Bush was right on this one, IF this event happens.

Well i'm not going to. Nor am I going to say the Americans deserved it. I do not feel that the existance of any chemical weapons jsutifies the actions, it just proves that the ASSUMPTIONS America made were accurate and nothing more. It does not prove that Iraq was any sort of risk to America and does not legitimise the war.

America knows Iraq *had* these weapons as they sold them many.

So let me ask all those on here that loath the U.S. so much: what WILL be your response if Saddam, that cat with 9 lives, orders the use of WMD's, which many of you said he didn't have, and they're used against Allied troops? What say you then?

Bummer. But surely you knew that he would fight to the death and use whatever he had? I get the impression that some felt the road to Bagdad would be paved in good intentions. How foolish.

Use of tactical nukes? Now THAT is one scary possibility. However, Saddam had been warned that this option remained on the table.

Isn't that admitting that you have WMD and are willing to use them? Doesn't that make a mockery of what this war is supposed to be about? Mind you, there is no doubt in my mind that the US will NOT take this course of action.

Scotty, you're surprised?





ADG


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

If they launch, Bush was right (...)

Is that so?
Wasn't one of the cons "Saddam could attack troops or Israel with his WMD? Quite exactly what we wanted to prevent?"

I wonder why so many people here assume war-protestors won't think Saddam has WMD. There was no clear evidence - but that's something different.
It is intellectually dishonest (at best) or outright ignorant (at worst) to postulate the Bush administration was right if Saddam is going to launch WMD.




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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

I can imagine a lot of people will be delighted if Iraq uses chemical weapons. Sure, a few troops may die, but the US was right and the French weren't! Ha! Ha!

User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Thank you Ilyushin96M!

When you attack a mad tyrann you should bear the consequences. If he get??s into the hopeless situation (which eventually will take place) he will freak out and use everything he has, and this means including WMD (weather he has it or not is a different case). and if this happens don't blame him, blame the guy who started the war.

you can't attack a mad dog and then expect him not to bite you! And after you got bitten, you start blaming the dog........

Regards
Amir


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Oh yes,

How would they be right? Who knows if they were even going to use any of these weapons for terrorism or to 'destroy the western world'. More likely they have them for this exact use, defending themselves. But no, thats not allowed, is it?

There is such thing as 'provocation' you know...


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

I cant wait to see the replies that say: "Well, the US troops deserve it."

Of course you can't. That's the only reason you posted this info.

It's a strange soul that lives to be hated.


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

If WMD are used, that will be the final evidence that UN should have been given more time to disarm.
Especially because if they are used, many people will die, and these deaths could have been avoided.


User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

There is no doubt in my mind as we get close to Baghdad he will use WMD. He does not care how many of his own people he kills. He only cares about his own survival. The U.S. will NOT respond with WMD ,they do care about the people of Iraq.If they didn't the war would be over now. When have you seen a war fought when the people go home and have running water and electricity. The people are being told to go home and stay in there houses and they will be safe. If as many on this site think America is a warmonger they would have taken Iraq out in three days.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Of course you can't. That's the only reason you posted this info.

It's a strange soul that lives to be hated.


Just making an observation, no reason to be a schmuck.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

If WMD are used, that will be the final evidence that UN should have been given more time to disarm.

I would argue that the opposite would be true - that after 12 years inspections could not find them all, proving that someone had to go in a grab them. The argument is rather moot at this point, but how can any number of inspectors find something in a country that size if Saddam wanted to hide it?

I just hope and pray that they don't get used, or at least that all the U.S. and U.K. troops are well prepared for such an attack. I'm sure it's quite on their minds.

Charles


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

Thumper:
you are talking US propaganda. ...You Say: .... we do care about the people of Iraq.....
.... the people are being told to go home...

At least a dozen of residential houses were bombed up till now, but of course on CNN and Fox you will only see a fraction of this.

If the US really cares about the people of Iraq they wouldn't have started the war at first place. Please don't start telling us that the US will free the people. The people are fine with themselves as long as no foreigners get involved.

Regards
amir


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

I read somewhere this morning that the Pentagon stated yesterday that no chemical or biological weapons had been found yet, was this not true?

25 Post contains links Cfalk : Yep. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20030325/ts_nm/iraq_wmd_dc It may take time. But some questions exist, lik
26 Eg777er : Um............perhaps in case Chemical weapons are used against them? After all, the British did it to the Iraqis nearly 100 years ago!
27 Alpha 1 : At least a dozen of residential houses were bombed up till now.. A dozen homes, Amir-after how many sorties? Over a thousands? And you complain about
28 Amir : Hi Alpha_1 read my post carefully, you didn't get my point: iam saying that a war is going on out there and all kind of weapons might be deployed. Iam
29 Thumper : . Amir: Thumper: you are talking US propaganda. ...You Say: .... we do care about the people of Iraq..... .... the people are being told to go home...
30 Post contains images EA CO AS : Isn't that admitting that you have WMD and are willing to use them? Doesn't that make a mockery of what this war is supposed to be about? Mind you, th
31 Post contains images Eg777er : The United States stockpile of unitary lethal chemical warfare munitions consists of various rockets, projectiles, mines, and bulk items containing bl
32 Alpha 1 : Eg777er, the U.S. has no chemical weapons. THE reason the U.S. has threatened to use tactical nuclear weapons on Iraq IF they fire Chem/bio wepaons is
33 N79969 : "If WMD are used, that will be the final evidence that UN should have been given more time to disarm. Especially because if they are used, many people
34 Eg777er : Um, why are you discounting what I've posted...........the evidence is there! Which part of: The United States stockpile of unitary lethal chemical wa
35 Post contains images Manni : Are some people here saying that, in order to show the world that the US was right, Saddam should use WMD? So, would you prefer to be wrong and withou
36 ADG : There is no doubt in my mind as we get close to Baghdad he will use WMD. That says more about your mind than about Saddam Hussein. The U.S. will NOT r
37 L-188 : ADG....What WMD is the US using in iraq? The US did have a large stock of Chemical Weapons. These are in the process of being destoryed. There is an i
38 Post contains links Gc : http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-12275368,00.html
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