Ryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3219 posts, RR: 17 Posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 770 times:
Interesting. I have been following news coverage of the Iraq war in Arab media, and there is outroar at the civilian casualties. Okay, fair enough, civilian casualties are indeed tragic, but why is it that the Arabs celebrate when Israeli civilians are killed, this time deliberately? I'm no big fan of Israeli politics but isn't it a bit hypocritical on the part of the Arabs to say how American and British 'imperialism' is killing civilians and causing atrocities, but whenever an atrocity occurs in Tel Aviv or Haifa these same people cheer it. Pah!
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 747 times:
Of course not. You have to make the distinction between the imperialist Zionist Americans and British (and their Zionist Jewish backers) and the Palestinians who are fighting a just cause for an Arab Middle East without foreign invaders in Palestine.
In order to achieve that last, anything is allowed. In fact, spreading death and destruction among Jews and other non-Muslim elements in the region (or elsewhere) is not just to be applauded, it is to be promoted at every opportunity.
Erj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 726 times:
As far as I know, some Arabs may cheer the suicide bombers, but the overwhelming majority of them will not.
It is a pity, forgotten by everybody that for each Israeli killed, there are at least 10 Palestinians dead.
Its a pity, but, in both this situations, violence happens because Arab people see their land being invaded.
Any death is a disaster.
But while you see Americans using technology to kill Iraqis, to control the country and the oil, on the other hand what you see is the ultimate and most desperate cry of hanger and despair a human being can take.
I do not agree with any death, but I am sorry for people that refuse, or are unable, ore incapable - I don't know which - of looking at the facts and see the difference.
Avi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 922 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 663 times:
Erj190: It is a pity, forgotten by everybody that for each Israeli killed, there are at least 10 Palestinians dead.
At least 10 Palestinians????
Where did you get that number from?
757 Israelis were killed in this Intifada so do you want to tell us that at least 7570 Palestinians were killed?
Do you have any idea how far (very very very far) this number is from the truth?
Sonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 617 times:
ERJ 190 has the right number, it was published in Lithuanian newspaper also. No average number was published though, but it said that back in 1975 it was 25 Palestinian civilians per single Jew and in the Intifada start it was 3 palestinian civilians per single Jew.
BTW, if we count that Iraq has nothing to do with Palestine/Israel except for moral support for Palestine, killing Iraqi civilians for civilians died in other war is absolutely unfair. The same would be to kill American civilians for Kurds Turkey killed, just because USA supports Turkey.
Sonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 608 times:
And also please note that killing civilians is always wrong. If you want to revenge for killed civilians, than you should kill those killers, not civilians of their nation.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 584 times:
for each Israeli killed, there are at least 10 Palestinians dead
The sad truth however is that that one Israeli is a darn sight more valuable that the 10 Palestinians put together.
The Palestinians in Israel controlled territory live a dead-end life. The ultimate they can aspire to is dying at the hands of either the Israelis or as a suicide bomber and assuring themselves martyrdom. For the most part, they cannot hold down a regular job due to constant lockdowns, nor can they leave their territory for better prospects elsewhere.
Israeli citizens on the other hand have bright futures and the potential to be productive members of a global society. It is natural that they are mourned more and considered more of a loss when killed.
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 572 times:
"This is common in uneducated societies. Ignorance breeds behaviour such as this. I have never once seen any Israelis celebrating any Arab deaths."
The Palestinians are among the educated and accomplished groups in the Middle East. Ironically, they are sometimes called the "Jews of the Middle East." It is not ignorance of any kind that breeds the behavior.
ADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 546 times:
Whilst the poster above have never once seen any Isrealis celebrate any deaths of arabs, I can claim otherwise.
Not only that, we've seen the footage of a rampaging "Israeli" mob who in their "random shooting" killed a child. So these incidents *do* occur, although not with the regularity of the suicide bombings.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 542 times:
The Palestinians are among the educated and accomplished groups in the Middle East. Ironically, they are sometimes called the "Jews of the Middle East." It is not ignorance of any kind that breeds the behavior.
Given that the Arab Middle East is generally uneducated & unaccomplished, this is not really an accomplishment.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
FSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 533 times:
B747-437B: "The sad truth however is that that one Israeli is a darn sight more valuable that the 10 Palestinians put together.
The Palestinians in Israel controlled territory live a dead-end life...Israeli citizens on the other hand have bright futures and the potential to be productive members of a global society. It is natural that they are mourned more and considered more of a loss when killed."
Funny. Hitler felt that way about the Jews. They weren't worth more than a penny to him. Real smooth, B747-437B.
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